* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. IT IS SIX O'CLOCK. [00:00:01] SO [I. Call to Order] I WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE CITY OF SHORE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. IT'S MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 14TH, 6:00 PM AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. UH, I DON'T THINK I SEE ANYONE HERE FOR CITIZENS' COMMENTS, BUT I'LL ASK IF ANY CITIZENS WANNA SPEAK. NOPE. UH, THEN WE GO ON [III. Council Comment] TO ITEM THREE ON THE AGENDA COUNCIL COMMENT. AND I SEE WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER OMAR HERE. SO HAVE AT IT. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. UM, I HOPE THIS AFTERNOON HAS BEEN GREAT THIS EVENING. I KNOW WE, UH, HAVE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT BUDGET ITEMS AND, AND THOSE NATURES OF THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, I THINK EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT FINALIZED ON, UH, THE COUNCIL'S FRONT. SO WE HAVE BUDGETS, UH, APPROVED AND IT LOOKS LIKE ALLOCATED, UH, FOR EACH OF THE EDCS. UH, ONE THING DID COME UP, UM, UH, WE HAD REQUESTS FROM, UH, COUNCIL TO LOOK AT, UH, THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP ARM OF THE PROGRAM AND, AND EVALUATE THERE. WE HAVE SOME, UH, COMMENTS TO THAT I, I WOULD IMAGINE. BUT, UM, SOME KEY CLEAR GOALS AND KPIS WERE KIND OF BROUGHT UP ON HOW WE EVALUATE, UH, THE EFFECTIVENESS, EFFECTIVENESS OF SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS. WHICH, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT MIGHT BE ON THE AGENDA, UM, FOR YOU ALL, BUT, UH, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT TO, UH, WE, WE WANT TO KIND OF PUT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ON YOU TO KIND OF COME UP WITH, UH, SOME OF THESE KPIS, UH, AS WE STATED IN COUNCIL. SO, UM, WITH THAT, I WILL LEAVE IT THERE. THAT'S MY COMMENTS, UH, THAT I HAVE FOR YOU ALL. ANY QUESTIONS? I DID HAVE A QUESTION. UM, I, UH, IN LISTENING TO RECENT, UH, COUNCIL MEETINGS, THERE WERE A COUPLE COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, IF EITHER THAT THE EDCS, EITHER THE, A BOARD OF B BOARD COULD TAKE ON ANY ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, UM, THIS YEAR. I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. UM, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, IS THERE, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY INTENTION TO MAKE ANY SORT OF FORMAL REQUEST TO THE EDCS ON THAT? OR IS THAT JUST A PART OF GENERAL DISCUSSION? I THINK THAT COULD BE EVALUATED, UM, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF BUDGETS ALLOCATED THIS YEAR. UM, BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE IDEAS AND THOUGHTS, WE, WE ALSO HAVE A LIST OF BULLPEN PROJECTS, AND I BELIEVE WE WENT OVER THAT LAST MEETING, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S A LIST OF A WHOLE SLEW OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE KIND OF LOOKED AT, WHETHER IT'S IN THE DESIGN PHASE OR WHETHER WE'RE, WE'RE MAYBE EVEN READY TO ACQUIRE LAND. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IS HOW DO WE USE THE EDCS TO ACQUIRE MORE PROPERTY, UM, AS WELL. SO, UH, FOR SURE. ABSOLUTELY. I LIKE THE SOUND OF ACQUIRING LAND THAT HOLDS A LOT OF INTEREST FOR ME. YES. ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S THE COMMENTS. I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER PENA. APPRECIATE IT. UH, WE WILL GO ON [Business - A] TO ITEM FOUR BUSINESS, UH, AGENDA ITEM, A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MINUTES OF THE CORPORATION FOR THE AUGUST 5TH, 2026 MEETING. UH, IF NO ONE HAS ANY REVISIONS, ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES. UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION SINCE I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING. YES, YES. AM I, DO I NOT VOTE ON THEM? YOU ACTUALLY, YOU ACTUALLY WERE AT THIS MEETING. THIS WAS THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL. OH, I'M SORRY. OKAY. THE NEXT MEETING? YES. FOR THE NEXT MEETING. AND, AND YES, YOU CAN VOTE ON THEM EVEN IF YOU WERE NOT PRESENT. OKAY. AND I, AND I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS FOR THE AUGUST 5TH MEETING, WHICH WAS THE JOINT MEETING WITH EDCB AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 5TH MEETING AND I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BUELL WITH A SECOND BY MS. DRESCHER. IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UM, I'LL ASK EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 5TH, 2026 MEETING ARE APPROVED ONTO [Business - B] CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MINUTES FOR THE CORPORATION FOR THE AUGUST 10TH, 2026 MEETING. AND THIS WAS [00:05:01] OUR REGULAR MEETING FOR THAT MONTH. UH, I WILL MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 10TH MEETING. I SECOND YOU HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BEE, A SECOND BY MS. NOBLE. UM, ANY DISCUSSION, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO THOSE MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 10TH, 2026 MEETING ARE APPROVED. NEXT ITEM ON [Business - C] THE AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON FINANCIALS AND PAYABLES FOR THE CORPORATION FOR THE PERIOD ENDING JULY 31ST, 2026. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. WE DO NOT HAVE THE, UH, SEPTEMBER COLLECTIONS, BUT THE SALES TAX REVENUES RECEIVED IN AUGUST FOR JUNE, 2026. REMITTANCES WERE UP 16.42% FROM LAST YEAR, TOTALING $250,692 AND 17 CENTS. UM, EACH CORPORATION NOW SITS AT $1,777,659 AND 7 CENTS, OR 77.29% OF OUR BUDGET FOR 75% OF THE YEAR. SO GOOD COLLECTIONS. UM, WE SHOULD RECEIVE THE, UM, JULY REMITTANCES IS, IT'S USUALLY ABOUT THE 17TH OF EVERY MONTH, SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU NEXT MONTH. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN DO WE ACTUALLY GET OUR SALES TAXES CUTTING IN HALF? THAT HASN'T HA I MEAN, WE HAD THE ELECTION IN MAY AND WE'RE STILL GETTING IT AT THE ONE HALF OF 1% RATE. CORRECT. DOES THAT CARRY THROUGH THROUGH SEPTEMBER PURCHASES OR WHEN DOES IT, WHEN IT CASE? LET ME GET A STATEMENT FROM LEGAL COUNSEL ON THAT AND I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU. OKAY. JUST CURIOUS. YES MA'AM. AND VERY THANKFUL THAT IT'S STILL ONE HALF A CENT RIGHT NOW. YES, FOR THE TIME BEING. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE FINANCIALS OR THE PAYABLES? I DID JUST WANNA POINT OUT, IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON PAGE 15 OF YOUR PACKET FOR THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP HUB, UH, THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT THE CURRENT TOTAL BUDGET AMOUNT AT 61,571, WHERE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET IS 25,000. THAT DIFFERENCE IS DUE TO THE ROLLOVER OF, UM, A PURCHASE ORDER FOR 36,571 THAT CAME, UM, FROM FISCAL YEAR 25 INTO 26 TO FINISH PAYING OUT THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WITH THE CANON. AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT THAT KIND OF THROWS OFF THE ENTIRE LINE. UM, TOTAL EXPENDITURES TO DATE ARE $19,513 AND 83 CENTS OF THOSE 19,000, 18,481 WERE TO PAY OUT THE REMAINING INVOICES FOR THE CANNON. SO WE'VE, UM, SPENT 1030 $2 AND 45 CENTS, UM, PRIMARILY WITH, UH, PCARD PURCHASES. AND SO THE REMAINING AVAILABLE BUDGET IS 42,000. UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THOSE NUMBERS. OKAY. SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS A REALLY LATE ROLLOVER. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WHOLE 36 SOME SOMETHING GOT DISCOVERED OR SOMETHING DIDN'T GET SUBMITTED IN TIME, IT SOUNDS LIKE. YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE I DID, I DID NOTICE ON PAGE 20 ALL THE NUMBERS LINE UP THE WAY YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD YES. FOR THAT. SO THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, INFORMATION ANELLE? YES, MA'AM. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PAYABLE OF $22,662 AND 59 CENTS? UH, I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE. I SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BUHL, SECOND BY MS. NOBU. UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THAT PAYABLE? IF NOT, I'LL ASK. UH, ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE HAVE THAT APPROVED. THANK YOU. VERY, VERY MUCH UPDATE ON [Business - D] EDC FUNDED CIP PROJECTS, THOSE BEING HARRIS STREET, THE DOWNTOWN EAST SIDE DRAINAGE, AND THE KATY FULL SHERE LIFT STATION. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. YES, THANK YOU ALL. YEAH, I'LL START WITH HARRIS STREET. SO SINCE OUR LAST, UH, EDC MEETING, [00:10:01] UH, NEARLY ALL OF THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY WORK HAS NOW BEEN COMPLETED, UH, WITH JUST ONE, UH, SHORT WATER WATERLINE, UH, OFFSET REMAINING. UH, SO AS WE'RE COMING TO THE END OF THAT, WE'RE GONNA START OUR FLAT WORK PORTION, ALL THE CONCRETE POURING. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE NEW KIND OF ROADWAY AND STAMP SEAL DESIGN AT IN THE PLAZA AND EVERYTHING START TO COME IN THERE. UM, SO FAR WE'VE RECEIVED, WE'VE PROCESSED ONE PAY APP. WE'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING PAY APP TWO, UH, YOU'LL SEE IN THE TOP TABLE, UH, WE'RE AT DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN CALENDAR TIME EXPENDED AND WHAT OUR ACTUAL PROGRESS PERCENTAGE COMPLETE IS. YOU CAN SEE WE'RE, UH, DEFINITELY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE SO FAR ON THIS ONE. SO VERY GOOD THING. YES, FOR SURE. IT'LL BE EXCITING WHEN WE START SEEING CONCRETE. YES. SHOULD BE VERY SOON. UH, THAT WILL INCLUDE A BIT OF AN ADJUSTMENT AN AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE, TO THE CHURCH'S PARKING LOT, UH, RIGHT THERE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SECOND. AND HARRIS, UH, WE'LL BE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADJUSTMENT. THEY'RE NOT ADDITIONAL CONCRETE, JUST, JUST A BIT OF A DRIVEWAY SHIFT. UM, SO THAT WILL HELP OUT THE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH. UM, YEAH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL CHANGE ORDER FOR ADDIT FOR THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING? YEAH, SO, UM, SOMETHING WE DID IN PHASE ONE THAT YOU GUYS WERE AWARE OF IS THAT WE REMOVED THE LIGHTING FROM THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTOR'S CONTRACT AND WENT THROUGH, UH, A LOCAL ELECTRICIAN COMPANY THAT WE WORK WITH, TRON ELECTRIC. UH, SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING INTO DOING FOR THE SECOND PHASE AS WELL. OKAY. UH, JUST FROM COST SAKE SAY AND THE AND THE STREAM LIGHTING AS WELL IN THE, IN THE PLAZA. YEAH. SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE THAT A LOT OF OUR COSTS FOR THIS PROJECT HAVE REALLY COME IN LOW WHERE WE NEED THEM TO BE. UM, BUT WITH PHASE TWO OR PHASE ONE GOING INTO PHASE TWO WITH ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE KINDA CARRIED OVER FROM DG MEDINA INTO THIS NEW CONTRACTOR, THERE WAS UM, A FEW THINGS THAT THE CONTRACTOR MAYBE BID A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN HE SHOULD HAVE. SO, AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, THERE WAS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS ON THIS ONE. SO ONE OF THOSE WAS A STREAM LIGHTING. HE ACTUALLY DIDN'T PUT A BID NUMBER ON THAT ITEM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ENOUGH OF A CLARITY TO GIVE A GOOD NUMBER. SO HE JUST OPTED TO PUT ZERO AND I ASKED HIM, I WAS LIKE, WELL, CAN YOU DO IT FOR FREE THEN? BECAUSE YOU PUT ZERO ? AND HE SAID, NO . SO UNFORTUNATELY WE COULDN'T GET A ZERO ON THAT ONE, BUT, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE SAME TYPE OF LIGHTING AND WE, WE ARE LOOKING ACTUALLY FOR PRIMROSE PHASE THREE, THERE'S SOME STRING LIGHTINGS ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL THAT ARE LEDS AS WELL AS THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHANGE COLOR AT A APP CHANGE OR SOMETHING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING, I FIGURED YOU LIKE THE LIGHT COLOR CHANGE FUNCTION, , SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT SAME AESTHETIC BECAUSE THE PRIMROSE IS USING A VERY SPECIFIC, VERY SIMILAR TYPE OF PUT UP THERE FOR THE POLL AND WE WANNA MATCH THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. SO HAIR, SORRY HARRIS STREET WAS ORIGINALLY PROJECTED MAY OF 26TH TO FEBRUARY 27TH. WE THINK WE MAY DONE BEFORE THEN. , NOT YOU, I'VE GOTTEN IN TROUBLE FOR THIS BEFORE, NOT BEING GUARANTEE STILL KEEP FEBRUARY 27 AND IF IT HAPPENS BEFORE THEN IT'S GREAT. RIGHT? SURE. WE'RE CERTAINLY ON PACE CURRENTLY, IF NOT A LITTLE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, SO, OKAY. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING OVER THE OTHER PROJECTS, SO YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER HARRIS STREET QUESTIONS? OKAY, SO DOES THAT MEAN WE MIGHT HAVE A GRAND OPENING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT NEXT SPRING? COOL. DON'T, LET'S NOT JINX IT. . PARDON? LET'S NOT JINX IT. NO . NO, BUT I THINK IT'S NICE TO HAVE A CELEBRATION. SURE, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, I DID. I KNOW IT. UH, NOW WE'RE ON THE PLAZA PART, BUT, UM, I HAD RAISED A QUESTION A COUPLE MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PARKING SPACES. I DID WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DID PHYSICAL VEHICLE TESTING AND AND SO IT, UH, MY UH, HYUNDAI TUCSON, I FORGOT WHAT I HAD FIT AND I WAS ACTUALLY QUITE SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH SPACE THERE WAS. UM, SO IT'S A SMALL TO MID-SIZE SUV, UM, SO THAT FELT VERY, THAT WAS VERY COMFORTABLE. I WILL SAY THAT MY HUSBAND'S TRUCK, WHICH IS A SILVERADO, WAS THE ONE WHO WE TESTED AND IT DID NOT, IT FIT, BUT I DON'T [00:15:01] KNOW HOW COMFORTABLE THAT I WOULD FEEL IF SURE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA MAYBE CONSIDER AT SOME POINT THAT LIKE MAYBE WE JUST SAY LIKE, NO TRUCK STREET PARKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE PARALLEL SPOTS. UM, JUST BECAUSE IF, YEAH, IF YOU PUT A TRUCK ON ANY, JUST ONE OF 'EM, YOU COULD KNOCK OUT ONE OR OF THE OTHER SPOTS. BUT, UM, BUT UH, FROM THE MAJORITY OF VEHICLES I THINK WOULD STILL, THE KNOW WOULD STILL FIT COMFORTABLY. SO JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW. SURE. WE TESTED IT OUT. ALRIGHT. SO WE'LL GO INTO DOWNTOWN EAST SIDE DRAINAGE OR FOURTH STREET. SO WE ARE, UH, LIKE HARRIS STREET, UH, NEARING THE END OF UNDERGROUND UTILITY WORK FOR FOURTH STREET. UH, THEY'VE INSTALLED ALL THE STORMS SEW ARE BASICALLY UP TO 3 59. THERE'S A COUPLE INLET ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE, UH, THAT'S IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW AND THEY WILL BEGIN PAVING THEIR NEXT SECTION AS WELL. SO, UM, SO INSTEAD OF GOING TO WILSON, IT'S ALMOST UP TO 3 59, CORRECT? YES MA'AM. UM, SO AS FAR AS THE NEXT PHASE OF CONCRETE, WE WILL STILL HAVE THIS SIMS INTERSECTION OPEN. YEAH, SO WILSON WILL STILL BE CLOSED, BUT UH, SO FAR WE'VE PROCESSED FIVE PAY APPS. I BELIEVE WE JUST GOT SIX THAT CAME IN LAST WEEK THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING. UM, BUT YEAH, YOU CAN SEE WE WAY AHEAD OF, OF SCHEDULE ON THIS ONE WITH A 70% ACTUAL PROGRESS COMPLETION COMPARED TO A 53%, UH, TIME EXPENDITURE SO FAR. AND ABOUT THE SAME WITH, UH, BUDGET PERCENTAGE. SO. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER FOURTH STREET QUESTIONS? DON'T I HAVE ANY? THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, TO OUR THIRD PROJECT, THE KATY FOR LIFT STATION EXPANSION. SO WE ISSUED OUR NTP ON JULY 26TH. UH, THE CONTRACTOR HAS NOW COMPLETED THE GRAVITY LINE NORTH OF WILSON THAT WILL SERVE THE, UH, PRIMROSE SCHOOL DAYCARE AREA. UH, THEY HAVE NOW STARTED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, BORING UP UNDER 10 93 FOR THE FORCE MAIN PORTION AND THEY SOON WILL BEGIN THE, UH, ADDITIONAL WATERLINE WORK. BORING BETWEEN SIM FROM SIMS TO HARRIS. SO, UM, SO A LOT OF CONGESTION THROUGHOUT THERE, BUT, UM, SITTING AT ABOUT 10% PROGRESS WITH ONLY ABOUT 5% TIME EXPENDED SO FAR. SO STILL EARLY ON THIS ONE, BUT SEEING SOME GOOD PROGRESS AND, AND THAT PROJECTION IS EVEN THROUGH, OR WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECTED DATE, IT'S JUST AS WORK CONTINUES COMPLETION? YEAH, WELL THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE JULY 26TH, 2027. THEY SAY SEVEN. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. 3, 3 30 TO SUBSTANTIAL I BELIEVE SO. UM, SURE. AND JUST ONE LAST THING, UM, MATTHEW DID MENTION, BUT THAT ONE'S ALSO AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. SO WE ARE LOOKING, I'M NOT GONNA SAY HOW AHEAD, BUT IT IS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. UM, NEXT MONTH WE'RE, WE ARE SHOOTING FOR THAT RE WILL BE COMPLETELY MODIFIED AND SHIFTED TO THAT. YOU CAN PULL OUT A EDC REPORT, BASICALLY WHAT WE JUST SHARED WITH Y'ALL. UM, KIND OF JUST GOING TO THAT SITE AND DO THE EXPORT. SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR OUR IT TO KIND OF FINISH THAT UP. IF YOU LOOK AT IT NOW, YOU'LL, WE'LL SEE THAT IT ALREADY HAS TAGS FOR EDC, BOTH OF Y'ALL'S BOARDS. COOL. SO IF YOU WANTED TO JUST KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE THAT UPDATED WITH NEW PICTURES AND BASICALLY ALL THIS INFORMATION WE'RE JUST WORKING ON AND WE WANTED THE REPORT TO LOOK LIKE THIS WHEN IT EXPORTS OUT. SO WE'RE KIND OF JUST WORKING ON THOSE LAST FEW TWEAKS. BUT WE'LL HAVE NEW PICTURES ON THERE AND WE'LL HAVE THE PROJECT SLIDE IF YOU JUST WANT, THERE'S ONE PAGERS NOW THAT HAD KIND OF HAVE WHAT IT WAS, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR IT, HOW MUCH, UM, WHAT IT WAS FOR, WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM. SO IT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AS THE PROJECT STARTS AND AS WE PROGRESS INTO THE PROJECT, YOU'LL GET PROJECT PHOTOS FOR EVERY SINGLE MONTH. SO THAT'S OUR GOAL. WE'RE ALMOST THERE. I NEED IT TO PRESS THE MAGIC BUTTON FOR IT TO LAUNCH . SO, BUT I WANT TO GIVE Y'ALL A HEADS UP 'CAUSE THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WANNA BE ABLE TO DO FOR Y'ALL FOR NEXT MONTH, THAT YOU CAN ACCESS IT ON YOUR OWN, BUT WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE IT AND WE'RE JUST GONNA SAY, HEY, THIS WAS FULCRUM, WE PRESS THE BUTTON AND NOW YOU HAVE IT. SO. VERY COOL. OKAY. [00:20:01] THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT'S IT FOR KATIE FULCHER. I THINK WE HAVE CURRENTLY PROCESSING THE FIRST PAY APP, SO I DON'T THINK WE'VE PAID ANYTHING OUT JUST YET. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK Y'ALL. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. GRAVITY LINE IMPROVEMENT, THAT SOUTH FM 10 93, IS THAT ON THERE? OH, THAT'S, IT'S NEXT YEAR. THAT'S NEXT YEAR? MM-HMM . OKAY. NEXT MONTH. NEXT NEXT MONTH. UPDATE. NEXT FISCAL, I GUESS. NEXT FISCALLY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ON TO ITEM [Business - E] E CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVAL OF A PROPOSAL FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN BY TIP STRATEGIES. AND I GUESS I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO YOU, ANELLE. YES, MA'AM. SO, UH, TIP STRATEGIES HAS SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL TO UPDATE THE CITY OF FO'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. SO THE PROPOSED UPDATE IS INTENDED TO BUILD ON THE CITY'S PREVIOUS STRATEGIC PLAN WHILE ACCOUNTING FOR FULL SHARES, CONTINUED POPULATION GROWTH, CHANGING MARKET CONDITIONS, AND EMERGING ECONOMIC, EMERGING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT WEST HOUSTON AND FORT BEND COUNTY. UM, SO THE PROPOSAL ITSELF IS IN YOUR PACKET, UM, AND IT HAS ALL THE DETAILS. AND THIS IS HERE AS A RESULT OF VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUESTING THAT WE BRING IT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION, UM, AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. UM, FOLLOWING OUR JOINT MEETING, I WILL JUST SAY I WAS VERY, VERY ENCOURAGED AT THE JOINT MEETING TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE THERE. I THINK THAT JOINT MEETING, UH, DID A LOT TO GET A MORE COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE, WHAT THE CITY WANTS, WHAT THE EDC MEMBERS WANT, IS WE GO FORWARD TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF SHORE. AND JUST GETTING THE CONSENSUS ON EVERYONE WANTING TO SEE THIS REFRESHED AND THE REASONS FOR DOING SO. I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A, UM, REALLY POSITIVE OUTCOME FROM THAT JOINT SESSION. UM, UH, KAY, DO YOU MIND IF I TAKE A, TAKE A FEW MINUTES? I HAD, UM, SOMETHING I WANTED TO ACTUALLY READ. SURE, GO AHEAD. OKAY. I HAD ACTUALLY, UM, SINCE A LOT OF THIS WAS MY BACKGROUND, NOT AS A CONSULTANT, BUT IN WORKING WITH OTHER TOWNS, I'D ACTUALLY STARTED MAKING A NUMBER OF, UM, OF NOTES AND THINGS AND IT, IT KIND OF TURNED INTO AN INTERNAL MEMO. UM, AND THEN I DECIDED THAT MAYBE THIS COULD BE AN INTERNAL MEMO. AND SO I, I JUST ASK KAY, UM, UH, IF I COULD HAVE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES TO, UM, TO READ IT. AND SO IF Y'ALL WILL BE PATIENT WITH ME AND ALLOW ME THAT TIME, I, UM, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. UM, UH, SO, UM, AFTER HEARING THE COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS AT THE SEPTEMBER 1ST MEETING PERTAINING TO BUDGET ALLOCATION AND METRICS FOR OUR EVOLVING ENTREPRENEURSHIP PROGRAM, I WANTED TO ADD SOME POSSIBLE ACTIONS AND FURTHER DISCUSSIONS FOR US TO CONSIDER IN A RESPONSE. EMAIL ANELLE EXCEPTIONALLY, UH, ANSWERED SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RELATED TO RELATIVELY MINOR COSTS, ET CETERA, AS WELL AS ATTENDANCE FIGURES TO THE EVENTS FOR OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES. SO I WON'T ADDRESS ANY OF THAT, BUT VISION AND STRATEGIC PLANNING. FIRST, THE QUESTIONS ALL PERTAIN TO EXPENSES TO RELATING TO SUPPORTING SHORE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY, BUT THE BIGGER PICTURE VISION AND STRATEGIC PLANNING IS WHERE WE SHOULD BEGIN. IT IS DIFFICULT TO VALIDATE PROJECTS UNLESS WE ACTUALLY HAVE SUCH A PLAN IN PLACE. OUR REQUEST FOR FUNDING TO UPDATE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WAS PREVIOUSLY DENIED AT COUNCIL. THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN AT OUR RECENT JOINT MEETING SINCE FULCHER HAS DRASTICALLY CHANGED SINCE THE 20 19 1. AND AS THE CONSULTANT LEADING THE JOINT MEETING REFERENCED, THESE KINDS OF PLANS NEED TO BE DONE EXTERNALLY BY HIRED EXPERTS BECAUSE THEY WORK SO BROADLY IN THE ARENA, CAN PROVIDE THE BIGGER PICTURE AND THEREFORE THE KIND OF GUIDANCE AND STRUCTURE WE NEED SO THAT EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS CAN BE PUT INTO PLACE. ADDITIONALLY, A HIRED STRATEGIC PLAN CONSULTANT WILL ORGANIZE MEETINGS OF THE GROUPS WE NEED TO HEAR FROM SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD EFFECTIVELY. LASTLY, SINCE SO MANY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE REGION AND THE STATE UTILIZE THE EXPERTISE OF EXTERNAL EXPERT ADVISORS, NOT HAVING ONE ALSO PUTS US AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE. NAVIGATING THIS KIND OF PROCESS INTERNALLY WITH JUST STAFF AND EDC VOLUNTEERS IS DOING A DISSERVICE TO BEING ABLE TO GET THE BROADER VIEW [00:25:01] THAT BRINGS VISION IN AN ACTUAL MEASURABLE STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS AND THE METRICS WE NEED TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. FROM MY 30 PLUS CAREER IN COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC SERVICE, I KNOW FIRSTHAND THAT THESE KIND OF ACTION SERVICE IN MANY WAYS AND ARE DEFINITELY WORTH THE EXPENSE. THEN MY NE MY SECOND SET OF NOTES WAS EVOLUTION. SECONDLY, AS THE RESOLUTION NOTES, UM, OUR BUDGETED EXPENDERS ON THE LI EXPENDITURES ON THE LISTED ITEM ARE TO PROMOTE OR DEVELOP NEW OR EXPANDED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES WITH THE PREVIOUS DECISION NOT TO CONTINUE WITH THE CANON ADVISOR. ALL OF THE CURRENT ENTREPRENEURSHIP ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS ARE IN AN EVOLUTIONARY STATE AND BEING UNDERTAKEN INTERNALLY BY STAFF IN THIS EVOLUTIONARY PHASE. THERE SHOULD, OF COURSE STILL BE GOALS, BUT A SINGLE ENTREPRENEURIAL VENTURE THAT INCLUDES VARIED AREAS OF FOCUS. FOR EXAMPLE, INDIVIDUAL ACTIVITIES RANGING FROM THE FRANCHISE WORKSHOPS, THE SMALL BUSINESS WORKSHOPS SPECIAL EVENT, AND THE ENTREPRENEUR RESOURCE FAIR ARE ALL INTENDED TO CONSIDER IT TO A BROAD CONTRIBUTE TO A BROADER GOAL OF EXPANDING AND SUPPORTING ENTREPRENEURSHIP IN RE BUT EACH ONE HAS DIFFERENT INTENTIONS AS SUCH, SOME MAY COST MORE TO UNDERTAKE AND WILL LIKELY HAVE DIFFERENT ATTENDANCE. ADDITIONALLY, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, TIME NEEDS TO BE GIVEN FOR TO THEM TO PROGRESS. INSTEAD OF MER MERELY LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEM EXPENSES. THE MORE EFFECTIVE PATH WOULD BE TO REVIEW AND DEVELOP SPECIFIC GOALS LIKE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT FOR EACH ONE LAID OUT AS WELL AS A PERIOD OF TIME TO EVALUATE BEFORE DECIDING WHETHER THAT EVENT OR ACTIVITY WILL CONTINUE SOMETHING THAT WOULD'VE BEEN PART OF A STRATEGIC PLAN PROCESS. HAD WE MOVED FORWARD ON ONE, HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION AND THE OTHER ADDITIONS THAT WILL NO DOUBT BE MADE DURING OUR FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WILL HELP THE COUNCIL HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR WORK AND BE ABLE TO FULLY BACK THE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES BEING UNDERTAKEN BY CHER'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS TO SUPPORT CHER'S SMALL BUSINESS AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP COMMUNITY. UM, AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GIVE YOU GUYS ONE. SO, UM, THAT IS ALL I HAD TO SAY AS PART OF MY DISCUSSION, CAN I HAVE ONE OF THE COPIES BACK SINCE I JUST HANDED ONE TO THEM? THANK YOU. THOSE ARE EXTRA COPIES. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE THAT TO GO OUT AS PART OF THE MINUTES? YES, I DID ASK FOR THAT. MM-HMM . OKAY. ANELLE, HAYDEN, Y'ALL CAN HANDLE THAT. YES. THANK YOU. UM, I, I WILL SAY I, I THINK YOU MAKE SOME VERY GOOD POINTS IN HERE AND I THINK IF WE KEEP THIS IN MIND AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, I THINK IT WILL HELP ALL OF US HAVE A MORE COMMON UNDERSTANDING FOR WHAT WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH. SO THANK, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS DOWN IN BLACK AND WHITE ON PAPER. I APPRECIATE IT. UM, BACK TO THE DISCUSSION AT HAND ON THE PROPOSAL FROM TIP STRATEGIES, DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL IN THE PACKET? I THINK, UH, MY, A QUESTION WAS JUST, I SAW THAT THERE WOULD BE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I JUST WASN'T SURE THAT, I GUESS JUST CONFIRMATION THAT THEY WOULD SIT, WOULD THEY SIT DOWN WITH THE BOARD AND GET FEEDBACK? OKAY. YES, MA'AM. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO, JUST TO CONFIRM, AND I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD TOO, WHICH WE KIND OF WENT BACK AND FORTH BEFORE ALSO, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A COMPLETELY NEW, A REFRESH, AN UPDATE, OR STARTING ALL OVER? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST TIME. I KNOW, BUT A WHILE HAS PASSED. YES. YEAH, SO THIS WOULD BE A COMPLETELY NEW PLAN. OKAY. HOWEVER, I THINK WHEN I SAY THAT PEOPLE GET SCARED THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA THROW THE OLD ONE IN THE TRASH, RIGHT? IT'S A REVIEW OF WHAT'S IN THERE, WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK, HOW ARE, HOW HAS THE LAST SEVEN YEARS IMPACTED THOSE EFFORTS, AND HOW DO WE NEED TO TODAY TO PIVOT? WHAT DOES THAT NEW OPPORTUNITY MAYBE WE WEREN'T AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THE THINGS WE TRIED THAT ACTUALLY WE CAN'T DO ANYMORE BECAUSE OF LEGISLATION, THAT SORT OF THING. MM-HMM . SO IT IS A ENTIRELY NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT BUILDS ON THE OLD ONE. SO WE MAY STILL HAVE THE SAME GOALS THAT YES, THERE MIGHT BE SOME THAT LIKE THAT YEAH. ARE STILL VERY RELEVANT, RIGHT? YES. ENTIRE CATEGORIES MM-HMM . THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE CERTAIN THINGS HAD TO HAPPEN IN A CERTAIN ORDER, WE'VE ONLY GOTTEN HALFWAY THROUGH, THEY MIGHT, YOU KNOW, REMAIN. [00:30:01] MM-HMM . THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. UH, I THINK, I THINK WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE JOINT MEETING, I THINK IT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE CONSENSUS BY EVERYONE IN THE ROOM THAT WE DID NEED MORE THAN JUST A REFRESH. AND ONE OF THE POINTS, AND I'LL ECHO IT HERE, BUT THE CONSULTANT WE BROUGHT IN ALICIA COOK, UH, ONE OF HER POINTS WAS THAT IF CITIES DON'T UPDATE THESE PLANS ON SOME KIND OF A REASONABLE TIMELINE BASIS, SHE SAID, THAT CAN SEND A BAD SIGNAL TO COMPANIES THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO COME HERE. LIKE IF YOU LET IT GO TOO LONG WITHOUT TAKING IT OFF THE SHELF AND, UM, DUSTING IT OFF AND, AND, UH, TAKING A LOOK AT IT AGAIN, IT SAYS, WELL, THIS CITY JUST REALLY ISN'T THAT INTERESTED IN IT, AND WHY SHOULD I GO, UH, TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT? SO I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT SHE BROUGHT UP ALSO DURING THE DISCUSSION. UM, I THINK THAT, WHICH MADE A LOT OF SENSE. THAT'S GREAT TO SAY. I DO WANNA SAY IT HAS NOT BEEN ON THE SHELF . WE DO USE IT. TRUE. YEAH. TRUE. SO I, I KNOW THAT'S JUST A, A COMMON PHRASE THAT'S TO USE, BUT, UM, YEAH, IT INFORMS EVERYTHING WE DO. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TOOK YOUR TO-DO LIST FROM A MONTH AGO AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT, WHAT HAVE I DONE? WHAT HAVE YOU KNOW, IT, YOU CAN'T JUST WORK OFF OF LAST YEAR'S TO-DO LIST, LAST MONTH'S TO-DO LIST, LAST WEEK'S TO-DO LIST. THERE COMES A TIME WHEN YOU NEED TO LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, ALL THESE THINGS NEED TO TRANSFER OVER, THESE THINGS NO LONGER APPLY. UM, AND THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS I HAVE TO ADD. SO IF WE JUST THINK OF IT IN SIMPLE TERMS LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. LET'S, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT, LET'S REFRESH, CLEAN IT UP, BRING OVER EVERYTHING THAT'S STILL RELEVANT AND ADD WHATEVER IS NEW. UM, AND THIS IS ALREADY OKAY, MAYBE IT HASN'T ALREADY, BUT, UH, AFTER THE COUNCIL DOES THEIR REGULAR MEETING FOR THIS MONTH, I ASSUME THAT'S WHEN THE BUDGET IS TOTALLY APPROVED, AND THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS STUDY. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL AGAIN. UH, SO OCTOBER 1ST WILL BE OUR, YOU KNOW, BUDGET IS SET IN STONE OFFICIALLY. UM, I THINK WE WANNA BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WE WANT TO STAY IN STEP WITH THEM. I THINK THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD TOGETHER WAS VERY POWERFUL. UM, BECAUSE OUR NEW BYLAWS ARE NOW IN PLACE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO. UM, YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT IT IS OUR PLAN TO TAKE THE, THE DISCUSSION BACK TO COUNCIL DURING THE OCTOBER UH, MEETING. OKAY. THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION. SO IT'LL, IT'LL HIT SOMETIME IN OCTOBER. UM, YES, MA'AM. DID THEY, ONE, ONE THING I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO IT AT THIS POINT BEFORE YOU GET FINAL APPROVAL OR IT COMES TO US RIGHT AFTER THAT, BUT I, I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO SEE A PROJECT PLAN LAID OUT. LIKE WHEN DO THEY START THE INITIAL MEETINGS? WHEN DO THEY THINK THEY'LL FINISH IT UP? SURE. WITH THE ACTUAL DATE PLAN, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YEAH. YES MA'AM. YEAH, I THINK THAT IT'S A PRETTY COMMON PRACTICE. I THINK THEY WOULD TYPICALLY DO THAT. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. UM, I DO, I DO HAVE A, ANOTHER, UH, QUESTION THOUGH, LIKE ON THE, THE OVERVIEW OF GOALS AND STRATEGIES WHEN YOU GET TO, LIKE YOU WERE MENTIONING BEFORE, WHAT WE'VE DONE AND YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED. AND, UM, DO, IS THAT LIKE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU MAKE AT MEETINGS, LIKE TO THE PUBLIC OR TO THE COMMISSIONS OR, OR WHATEVER, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THE CONSULTANT DOES? AND WITH THE INFORMATION YOU'VE GIVEN THEM, ARE YOU SAYING, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN OR AS IT RELATES TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN? UM, SO ACTUALLY IN THE PROPOSAL IT SAYS THAT IT'S PART OF, UM, THE COST FOR THEM TO DO IT. HOWEVER, IF WE WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN TAKE LEAD IN PRES PRESENTING DURING THAT PROCESS, THEN WE CAN DO THAT. SO, OKAY. WELL, WELL LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ALL WOULD BE THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE TO DO THAT. MM-HMM . BUT YOU ALSO ARE EXTREMELY BUSY MM-HMM . AND WOULD YOU YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY ASSUMING RESPONSIBILITY OF IT, BUT ALSO WILLING TO STEP ASIDE IF WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT? UH, I THINK I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE HOW IT ORGANICALLY PLAYS OUT. OH, OKAY. I THINK IF IT'S, IF IT FEELS NATURAL AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT INFORMATION AND, UM, I COULD REALLY SEE IT BEING KIND OF A TAG TEAM, YOU KNOW, OUT WELL BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM THE INFORMATION IN, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO, AND WE'RE GONNA BE PART OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS ANYWAYS. I MEAN, I THINK, UM, WHILE [00:35:01] IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK, I, I JUST THINK IT'S SO WORTH IT BECAUSE KNOWING HOW MUCH THIS IS GOING TO HELP US BE ABLE TO CONFIDENTLY MOVE FORWARD KNOWING THAT THESE ARE THE SHARED GOALS OF THIS EDC AND THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THIS EDC DEPARTMENT, I THINK IT'S, IT'S SO WORTH IT. SO, AND LIKE KAY WAS SAYING, THAT SAYS A LOT TO EXTERNAL, UM, UH, VOICES, WELL BUSINESSES THAT WE WANNA COME HERE. YES. YES, MA'AM. SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF LEAVE THAT, MAYBE OPEN THAT. YES. I THINK I DON'T WANNA COMMIT TO YEAH. YOU KNOW, A RIGID PROCESS. I WANT IT TO PLAY OUT HOW IT NEEDS TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE MOST PARTICIPATION, THE MOST INFORMATION ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC AND TO ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR INTERNAL PARTIES. OKAY. AND THIS, THIS WILL, SO OUR, OUR FIRST STRATEGIC PLAN LAID OUT, UM, LIKE THE, THE BUSINESS, BECAUSE OF OUR DEMOGRAPHICS, BECAUSE OF THE WORKFORCE WE HAVE HERE, IT LAID OUT SEVERAL, UM, I'LL SAY INDUSTRIES OR ECONOMIC TARGETS TO BRING TO THE CITY. SOME OF THAT WAS ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS, OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, OIL AND GAS SERVICE COMPANIES, REGIONAL, REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'LL GET, WE'LL ALSO GET A TARGET LIST WITH THIS REFRESH, SORRY. ABSOLUTELY. SORRY, WITH THIS RE I SHOULDN'T CALL IT REFRESH. WHAT SHOULD I CALL IT? WITH THIS NEW PLAN. YES. UPDATED, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. THAT I THINK THAT'S A REAL IMPORTANT, WE'LL THINK ON A SHORT NAME. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A REAL IMPORTANT PART OF IT TOO. SO, YES, DEFINITELY. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT PROCESS INCLUDES A MATRIX THAT WOULD BREAK DOWN ALL OF THE GOALS, THE TIMELINES, WHAT PARTY IS RESPONSIBLE. UM, AND IT WILL SPLIT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL, FOR THE EDC AND, UM, AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AS WELL, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UM, I THINK IT'LL BE VERY HOLISTIC. OKAY. SO YOU WANT A MOTION, YOU WANT US TO TAKE ACTION ON, UH, THE EXPENDITURE THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? YES, MA'AM. FOR THE EDCA SHARE TO FUND THIS YES. EFFORT. THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROPOSAL FOR THE UPDATED PLAN IS $100,000. THAT MEANS, UM, SPLIT IN HALF. WE'RE ASKING, UM, TONIGHT FOR APPROVAL TO SPEND $50,000, UM, TO GO TOWARDS IT. AND THEN AT OUR NEXT WEEK'S MEETING FOR OUR TYPE B, WE'LL MAKE THE SAME REQUEST THERE. AND THAT WAS THE SAME AS LAST TIME. RIGHT. AND, AND, UM, I'M SORRY, IT WAS THE SAME AS LAST TIME, CORRECT? YES. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. UM, AND THIS IS FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, AND WE DID BUDGET, UM, 55,000 FOR THAT LINE ITEM. OKAY. DOES ANYONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION? UH, GO AHEAD, . UM, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, APPROVE THE, SORRY. NO, I JUST LOST IT. UM, THAT WE APPROVE THE, UM, UH, THE PROPOSAL FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN BY TIP STRATEGIES IN THE BUDGETED AMOUNT OF $55,000. SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ASK FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YOU'RE IN. JUST DIDN'T SAY AYE. SORRY. OH, . ALRIGHT. I, I THINK THAT COUNTS AS UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. , THANK YOU. ON [Business - F] ITEM F, DISCUSSION OF ENTREPRENEUR RESOUR RESOURCE PROGRAMMING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. YES, MA'AM. UM, SO YOU WERE ALL, UM, MADE AWARE OF JUST SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL EXPRESSED AT THEIR LAST MEETING REGARDING KPIS, UM, THE AMOUNT BUDGETED FOR THE PROGRAM. AND SO I JUST WANTED, WANTED TO OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAMMING THAT ME AND HAYDEN HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND THE CAPACITY FOR, UM, FOLLOWING THE TERMINATION OF THE CANON CONTRACT AND JUST THE DIFFERENT EFFORTS WE'VE MADE, UM, TO MAKE OURSELVES AS AVAILABLE TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE ENTREPRENEURS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY, DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK, UM, AND JUST CONNECTING THEM WITH THE PROPER RESOURCES FOR THEM TO SUCCEED AT WHATEVER STAGE OF THAT ENTREPRENEUR JOURNEY THEY'RE IN, WHETHER IT'S IDEATION OR, UM, YOU KNOW, STARTING OR SCALING, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO GET [00:40:01] A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR FEEDBACK ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT METRICS YOU WOULD BELIEVE ARE APPROPRIATE. WHAT PROGRAMMING HAVE YOU SEEN US PUT ON THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONTINUE? UM, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF? UM, AND JUST THAT SORT OF THING. I MEAN, I WOULD SAY, UH, FIRST OFF, THAT A LOT OF REALLY GOOD POINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE, UH, BY DEBORAH AND, UM, IN THE MEMO THAT SHE WROTE. UM, I THINK THAT, UH, THE IDEA THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS LAST YEAR AS WE WERE TRANSITIONING OUT OF, UM, THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAD, UH, THROUGH THE CANON AND HAVING A DEDICATED PERSONNEL WHO COULD ORGANIZE AND ARRANGE THE EVENTS, UM, VERSUS, UH, YOU TWO HAVING TO WORK THAT INTO YOUR PERSONAL, UH, WORK SCHEDULES, UM, ON TOP OF YOUR OTHER TASKS. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPRESSIVE THE AMOUNT OF, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT ON THIS LAST YEAR. I THINK THAT THE VARIETY HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD. UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE REALLY, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THEIR, THEIR JOURNEY, UM, IN THE BUSINESS STATE FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS YET, JUST HAVE AN IDEA TO PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY START A FRANCHISE, PURCHASE A FRANCHISE OR START A FRANCHISE. LIKE, UM, SO VERY, YOU KNOW, VERY DIFFERENT, UM, PIECES OF IT. I THINK TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE VARIETY OF SUPPORT THAT HAS BEEN OFFERED TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, IT IS HARD TO FIND METRICS THAT COVER ALL OF THAT LIKE, WIDE UMBRELLA OF SUPPORT THAT WE'RE GIVING TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THERE MAY ALWAYS BE A STRUGGLE BETWEEN WANTING TO PUT SOME VERY DIRECT CLEAR NUMBERS AROUND SOMETHING THAT IS SUCH A BROAD SCOPE THAT YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY JUST ASSIGN SOMETHING THAT WILL BE APPLICABLE TO ALL. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD NOT EXPECT THE ENTREPRENEUR WORKSHOP TO HAVE 20 PEOPLE SHOW UP. I THINK THE FACT THAT WE HAD LIKE 15 WAS KIND OF WILD. LIKE THAT THERE WOULD BE THAT MANY PEOPLE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, DO, BRINGING A FRANCHISE TO SHORE IS GREAT, RIGHT? YOU WOULD EXPECT, I WOULD EXPECT MUCH LOWER ATTENDANCE TO THAT EVENT. DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S NOT AN IMPORTANT EVENT, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S SUPER NOT A SUPER BENEFICIAL EVENT. BUT IF YOU, BUT IF YOU HAVE EVENTS THAT HAVE LOW ATTENDANCE VERSUS EVENTS THAT THEN YOU TAKE THAT AVERAGE, THAT CAN BE, IT'S, IT'S JUST HARD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF IT DIDN'T HIT THIS THRESHOLD OF PEOPLE ATTENDING THAT SOMEHOW IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF THE STRUGGLE HERE, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL HAVE WHEN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT KPIS, IS HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT CAPTURES WHETHER OR NOT AN INDIVIDUAL EVENT WAS SUCCESSFUL, AS WELL AS WHETHER THE OVERALL PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL, AS WELL AS WHAT IS THE OVERALL BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SO I, I KNOW I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEW TO ANYBODY UP HERE, BUT, UM, THAT'S JUST KIND OF AS I WAS THINKING THROUGH, UM, READING THROUGH THE EMAILS AND SUCH, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON IN MY HEAD WAS JUST HOW DO YOU FIND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE FIND THINGS THAT CAN TRULY CAPTURE EACH OF THOSE THREE DATA POINTS, UM, WITHOUT NECESSARILY BEING, UM, TOO RESTRICTIVE AND, AND TOO PRESCRIPTIVE AS WELL. WELL, I, I, I WENT AND LOOKED AT DR. GOOGLE A LOT, THIS QUESTION. UM, AND, AND BASICALLY JUST OP OPENED IT UP AND, AND WHAT I FOUND BASICALLY WAS THAT THE ORIGINAL KPIS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL WHEN WE FIRST GLOMMED ON TO THE, UM, IDEA OF HAVING THE CANON SUPPORT US WITH THIS, UH, THO THOSE, THOSE KPIS WERE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, IT WAS LIKE, WHAT KIND OF EVENTS ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE? HOW MANY OF THEM ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE IN A YEAR? WHAT'S YOUR REACH? WHAT IS YOUR ATTENDANCE? BECAUSE AS YOU'RE, WHAT, WHAT I HAVE, UM, KIND OF SYNTHESIZED IN MY MIND IS THAT THESE KPIS CHANGE OVER TIME. AND WHEN YOU ARE JUST GETTING STARTED WITH TRYING TO GET AN ENTREPRENEURIAL HUB GOING, YOUR WHOLE THING IS YOU NEED, FIRST YOU NEED TO MAKE [00:45:01] PEOPLE AWARE OF IT. WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT AS BEST WE COULD WITH, UH, MAIL OUTS IN THE UTILITY BILLS WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, WITH, UH, WEBSITE, CITY, CITY, THE CITY WEBSITE ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH, PEOPLE SHARING IT ACROSS THEIR PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF THIS STARTUP IS CREATING AWARENESS, MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT, GETTING PEOPLE INTERESTED, AND HAVING 'EM ACTUALLY COME AND THEN, AND GROWING THAT. AND I, I THINK WE WERE SEEING THAT, UM, DURING THE FIRST YEAR WHEN WE STARTED OFF WITH THAT IN 2025. RIGHT. I'M GOT, I'VE GOT THE YEAR CORRECT, I THINK. UM, AND SO HAD, HAD WE CONTINUED ON THAT PATH, WHAT YOU WOULD'VE HOPED TO HAVE SEEN IS THAT THAT, UH, ATTENDANCE LEVEL KEEPS GROWING, THAT YOU WOULD'VE HAD BUSINESSES FORMING, THAT YOU WOULD'VE GOTTEN INTO NOT JUST THE IDEATION STAGE, BUT THE CREATION STAGE AND, AND MAYBE, UH, GETTING WORD OUT TO THE, UH, FOLKS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES BASED IN THEIR OWN HOMES, THOSE THAT WANNA SCALE UP AND ALSO REACH SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE. THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU SEE FROM WHAT I'VE RESEARCH I DID. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES YOU SEE BACK IN YEARS, 2, 3, 4, AND MAYBE BY YEAR FOUR, YEAR FIVE, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING YOU CAN NAIL DOWN ON. HARD NUMBERS, LIKE SALES TAX INCREASES, NEW, NEW BUSINESSES IN THE CITY, NEW EMPLOYEES, NEW JOBS CREATED, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, YEARS FOUR AND FIVE. THEY'RE NOT THE TYPE OF KPIS THAT YOU HAVE UP IN YEAR ONE AND TWO. AND I, AND I DO THINK THAT WITHOUT HAVING A DEDICATED RESOURCE FROM THE CANNON WORKING WITH US THIS YEAR, I DO THINK THAT WE HAD A, A LITTLE BIT OF A FALL FALL OFF, WHICH I THINK IS TO BE EXPECTED BECAUSE Y'ALL WERE TRYING TO FIT IT IN AMONGST YOUR NORMAL 40 HOUR WORK WEEKS. AND WE DID NOT HAVE MATT HERE SPENDING THREE DAYS A WEEK OF HIS TIME, PLUS OTHER TIME WHEN HE WAS THINKING ABOUT US WHEN, WHEN HE WAS BACK IN HOUSTON. I THINK Y'ALL WERE LAUGHING WHEN SHE SAID 40 HOUR WORK WEEK, WEREN'T YOU INSIDE . OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WHATEVER. . YEAH. THE JOKE USED TO BE INSTEAD OF A NINE 80 PEOPLE WORKED EIGHT NINETIES TRYING TO CRA 90 HOURS INTO EIGHT DAYS. YEAH. BUT, BUT ANYHOW, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I SEE THE KPIS. AND, AND WE HAD THOSE TYPES OF KPIS WHEN WE FIRST CAME TO COUNCIL FOR THE CANNON. SO THEY WERE THERE, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE EXACT KPIS THAT COUNCIL WAS EXPECTING, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SOME OF THOSE KPIS THAT MAYBE THEY WERE HOPING FOR ARE THINGS THAT YOU SEE IN YEARS FOUR AND YEAR FIVE, YEAR SIX DOWN THE ROAD, NOT THINGS THAT YOU SHOOT FOR IN YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO, YEAR THREE. AND SO, UM, YOU, YOU TELL ME, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO KEEP GOING THE WAY WE'RE GOING? I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE HEARD YOU SAY ANELLE, THAT OTHER CITIES OUR SIZE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF THAT'S GOT FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE FULL-TIME WORKING IN IT, AS OPPOSED TO TWO PEOPLE WORKING IN IT HERE IN THE CITY OF SHORE. UM, AND MAYBE IF WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, TRY TO SCALE BACK UP THE ENTREPRENEURIAL HUB ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO AND, AND MORE CONSISTENTLY HAVE THE MONTHLY LUNCHEONS AND MORE CONSISTENTLY HAVE THE BUSINESS ADVISOR SESSIONS. 'CAUSE I, I THINK THOSE ADVISOR SESSIONS WERE, UH, VERY VALUABLE TO THE PEOPLE THAT, UM, TOOK UP THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND I, AND I, I WASN'T AT THAT LAST, UH, WORKSHOP AT IRENE STERN, BUT WERE THE ADVISOR TABLES SWAMPED AT AT MM-HMM . AT THAT? YEAH, I WAS, THEY WERE BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY WERE SWAMPED AT THE VERY FIRST ONE THAT WE HAD AT IRENE STERN LAST YEAR. MM-HMM . PEOPLE, PEOPLE LOVED HAVING AN EXPERT THAT THEY COULD GO TO TO GET ADVICE, UH, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE SOME, SOME FOLKS IT'S LIKE, I DON'T EVEN, I, I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO TO CALL UP TO ASK THIS QUESTION. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW AN ATTORNEY THAT DOES THIS. I DON'T KNOW A BANKER THAT DOES THIS. AND SO ON THESE SESSIONS, IT'S LIKE, HERE THEY ARE. HERE'S A TABLE. GET IN LINE, THEY'LL TALK TO YOU AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I THINK ONE OF THE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE MOST VISITED BOOTH, BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST LEARNING EXPERIENCES, I THINK FOR PEOPLE THAT I HEARD TALKING ABOUT IT WAS BEING INTRODUCED TO THE SBDC [00:50:01] MM-HMM . AND NOT OH, WOW. YEAH. THEY HAD A BOOTH THERE. AND MOST PEOPLE I HEARD, AT LEAST THREE ENTREPRENEURS, THEY WEREN'T EVEN AWARE OF WHAT IT WAS OR WHAT IT DID OR WHAT THEY DID, OR THAT IT WAS FREE. SO I THINK A LOT OF 'EM, OR SEVERAL OF THEM I KNOW WENT AWAY WITH THEIR JAW DROPPING OVER LEARNING THAT. SO YEAH. UM, BUT ARE, OH, I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE, I WAS, I WAS JUST THROWING MY THOUGHTS OUT IS WHAT I WAS DOING. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, OR A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ALSO REMEMBER, WELL, TWO THINGS IN MY MIND, UM, HAVING BEEN IN PLACES LIKE THIS BEFORE, UH, PEOPLE HERE CARE ABOUT THE VALUE OF COMMUNITY. AND IF ALL YOU HAVE COMING HERE IS MAJOR DEVELOPERS INSTEAD OF ENTREPRENEURS, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE YOUR SENSE AND YOUR FEELING OF A VALUABLE COMMUNITY, UM, VERY QUICKLY, THE KIND OF PLACE I WANT TO LIVE OR, UM, UH, WHATEVER. BUT ON THE SECOND HAND, ENTREPRENEURSHIP IS NEVER GOING TO HAVE THE SAME KIND OF, PROVIDE THE SAME KIND OF SALES TAX DOLLARS THAT A MAJOR EMPLOYER IS. AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT LINE ITEM IS OKAY, THAT IT'S LOWER WITH THE ENTREPRENEURS AS OPPOSED TO THE EMPLOYER OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN ENTREPRENEURSHIP IS NOT WORTH PURSUING, IT JUST MEANS IT'S DIFFERENT. AND WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO ALWAYS RECOGNIZE THIS, BUT RECOGNIZE THAT. BUT I THINK THE VALUE OF COMMUNITY ALSO IS WHY WE NEVER NEED TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE VALUE OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP IN, IN THIS TOWN OR ANY OTHER ONE TOO. AND YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA HIT A HOME RUN. I MEAN, SOME OF THESE SMALL ENTREPRENEURS DO SCALE UP. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. SO YOU NEVER KNOW. ACTUALLY, I HAD WRITTEN DOWN ON MY NOTES, I SAID THE CREATIVE BRAIN VERSUS A LOGICAL BRAIN, BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THERE'S A BIT OF THAT THERE, RIGHT? THAT YOU WON'T A LOT, SOME OF THIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT HELPING TO SHOW THAT RE IS FRIENDLY TO BUSINESSES, THAT WE ARE WELCOMING TO BUSINESSES OF ALL SIZES. AND THAT MAKES PEOPLE WANT TO AT LEAST CONSIDER RE WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING TO WHERE TO PUT THEIR BUSINESS. AND SO IT'S ABOUT REPUTATION. UM, IT'S ABOUT, THAT'S A GOOD WORD. THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE. AND THOSE ARE NOT THINGS THAT YOU CAN PUT A KPI AROUND. THOSE ARE ETHEREAL THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEIR FEELINGS. AND IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S INTANGIBLE. YEAH. IT'S INTANGIBLE. UM, YOU KNOW, AND TO KAY'S POINT IN, IN FIVE YEARS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, WOW, FULCHER HAS REALLY DEVELOPED A, A BUSINESS THAT, OR A, A, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY THAT BUSINESSES WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN. BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NECESSARILY EVEN GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO POINT AT FOR AT LEAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND, AND I, I DON'T WANNA BE A NEGATIVE NANCY, BUT I, I THINK CAME, YOU MADE A REALLY GOOD POINT IN TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE KPIS ARE THINGS THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, MAY BE ABLE TO ASSESS IN, YOU KNOW, YEARS FOUR OR FIVE. BUT I REALLY FEEL THAT BECAUSE OF THE STEP BACK THAT WE TOOK WITH THE LOSS OF THE CANNON AND HAVING TO SORT OF RESET THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND. SO IT'S TECHNICALLY WE'RE GOING, WELL, WE'RE KIND OF STARTING OVER . YEAH, WE'RE STARTING OVER. IT'S LIKE WE'RE AT, SO IT'S LIKE WE'RE GOING INTO YEAR THREE, BUT WE CAN'T EVEN START TO BE LIKE, OH, WE'RE JUST A YEAR OR TWO AWAY FROM THESE KPIS. THAT WOULD BE YEAR FOUR OR FIVE. WE'RE REALLY STILL AT YEAR ONE KPIS BECAUSE WE'RE STILL REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROGRAM IS AND WHAT IT DOES. SO IT'S LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING AS WELL. IT'S ALMOST WORSE BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE'RE NOW WE'VE ADDED TWO FRONTS. ONE WHERE THE COMMUNITY WE HAD BUILT WAS TOLD WE DON'T BELIEVE IN THIS PROGRAM AND THE FUNDING HAS BEEN REMOVED. YEAH. AND NOW IT'S GONE. SO ALL THAT TIME WE SPENT BUILDING THAT TRUST JUST COMPLETELY ERODED. YEAH. SO NOW WE HAVE TO WIN THESE PEOPLE BACK WHO WERE ACTIVE AND ENGAGED WHILE ALSO TRYING TO MARKET AND SHARE THE MESSAGE TO THOSE THAT HADN'T BEEN REACHED YET, UM, TO TELL THEM, THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE, AND THIS IS WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU. UM, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS VERY HARD TO QUANTIFY. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE RESOURCE FAIR, I HAD SOMEONE REACH OUT AND UM, THEY, THEY SENT ME A FACEBOOK MESSAGE AND THEY SAID, I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH. I'M SO EXCITED. I HAVE TWO NEW CLIENT MEETINGS, UM, FOLLOWING THAT. AND WHAT HAPPENED IS THIS PERSON RAISED THEIR HAND AND ASKED A QUESTION AND SAID, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS PART OF MARKETING. HOW DO, HOW DO YOU, I CAN CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY IF I'M JUST NOT, I'M NOT A PART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, OR I'M NOT A PART. RIGHT? [00:55:01] I REMEMBER THAT QUESTION. AND THE TWO PANELISTS SAID, OH, WELL, WE TOOK UNTRADITIONAL ROUTES AND HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE DID. UM, BUT IF YOU'LL TALK TO US, WE'RE HAPPY TO USE OUR BUSINESS TO HELP YOU ADVERTISE YOUR BUSINESS BY DISPLAYING YOUR PLANTS OUT FRONT, AND YOU CAN DISPLAY A SIGN THERE. NOW OUR CUSTOMER BASE IS SHARED WITH YOUR CUSTOMER BASE. AND, UM, THAT WAS AN EXCHANGE FROM THE STAGE INTO THE AUDIENCE THAT THEN WHEN THE PANEL WAS OVER, THEY WENT AND MOVED FORWARD WITH. AND SO IT'S HARD TO PUT THAT ON PAPER TO SAY ONE CUSTOMER GAINED OR ONE MEETING GAINED, BUT FOR THAT PERSON OVER TIME, THAT WILL COMPOUND IN THAT COMMUNITY WILL START TO SEEM IT WHERE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN RESILIENT AND BEEN IN BUSINESS 15 PLUS YEARS IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE NOW TAKING A BUSINESS OWNER WHO JUST LAUNCHED LAST YEAR UNDER THEIR WING. THAT'S WHAT THE PROGRAM IS INTENDED TO DO. AND I THINK, WELL, IN, IN LARGE PART, THAT'S WHAT THE CANNON DID. THEY YEAH. THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD BEEN THERE, THEY HAD DONE THAT. THEY KNEW ALL THE HURDLES, THEY KNEW THE OBSTACLES, THEY KNEW HOW TO GET 'EM OUT OF THEIR WAY, AND THEY SHARED THAT INFORMATION WITH ALL THE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN, THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SO VALUABLE ABOUT THE CANNON. YEAH. YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND, UM, WHERE WAS I GOING WITH THIS? THERE WAS ANOTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE, UM, ABOUT JUST HAVING THAT INTEGRATION HAPPEN BETWEEN ENTREPRENEURS AT DIFFERENT STAGES IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, AND IT, THEY BECOME OUR RECRUITERS, THE MORE RESOURCES WE CAN PROVIDE FOR THEM. LIKE YOU WERE SAYING WITH THE SBDC, PEOPLE DID COME AND SAY, I, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS EXISTED. YEAH. UM, HOW CAN I, HOW CAN I DO THAT? UM, AND IT IS A PROCESS THAT EVOLVES OVER TIME. I MEAN, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE METRICS WE, WE USED TO HAVE, AND SOME OF THAT WAS COACHING, UM, LIKE ON A CONSISTENT BASIS. MATT USED TO MEET WITH SOMEONE, REVIEW THEIR BUSINESS PLAN, SAY, HERE'S YOUR TO-DO LIST. MM-HMM . SCHEDULE A FOLLOW UP WITH ME WHEN YOU'VE DONE THESE FIVE THINGS, AND THEN WE WILL REASSESS THEN. AND THAT, THAT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS SOMEONE SAYING, HERE'S MY BUSINESS CARD. AND YOU LOOKING AT IT AND SAYING, I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU DO BASED ON THIS. SO IF I FORGET OUR CONVERSATION OR IF SOMEONE SHARES, SO LET'S GO REWORK YOUR, YOUR BUSINESS CARD TO MAKE YOUR OFFER CLEAR. UM, BUT IT'S THOSE TINY TWEAKS THAT OVER TIME MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND I'LL COME BACK TO MY OTHER POINT IF I REMEMBER IT, WELL, AND, AND, UH, WHAT I GOT OUT OF THE MONTHLY LUNCHEONS, IT WAS JUST THAT ONGOING ENCOURAGEMENT THAT PEOPLE GOT FROM, UH, NETWORKING WITH OTHER ENTREPRENEURS KIND OF IN THE, THE SAME, UM, PART OF THE RACE AS, AS THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO THIS MONTH. HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO THE NEXT MONTH. COME IN AND SHARE, SHARE YOUR, UH, RESULTS THE NEXT MONTH. AND, AND, AND IT DID. I MEAN, THERE, THERE WAS A TRUE SENSE OF CAMARADERIE AND THERE WAS A TRUE, IT, IT WAS JUST EVERYBODY LIKE PULLING FOR EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND THE TABLE TO GET THINGS DONE. AND I REMEMBERED WHEN I WAS GO FOR IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. UM, SO WE HAD TO BE VERY CREATIVE WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO FIND A WAY TO DIRECTLY SUPPORT OUR MOM AND POP SMALL BUSINESS, HOMEGROWN, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES. BECAUSE ALL OF OUR OTHER POLICIES AND THE WAY THE STATUE IS WRITTEN, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SPONSOR A BUSINESS OWNER TO GO TAKE A MARKETING COURSE AS AN INDIVIDUAL. RIGHT. BUT I CAN HOST A PROGRAM AND TELL EVERYBODY OUR MARKETING PROFESSIONAL IS HERE, COME TO US. AND NOW EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO THAT PAIN POINT THAT THEY'RE COLLECTIVELY EXPERIENCING. I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS PROGRAM IS SO IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT'S OUR ONE AVENUE TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES AND HELP THEM OVERCOME THOSE CHALLENGES. AND IN EVERY, EVERY ASPECT, WHETHER IT'S LEGAL COUNSEL OR, UM, YOU KNOW, HR ISSUES, WHATEVER THEY'RE FACING IN THEIR BUSINESS, WE CAN, WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT PROGRAM. WELL, AND WE HAD, AND WE HAD A LIST OF ADVISORS LIKE, HERE'S AN ADVISOR ON INSURANCE, HERE'S AN ADVISOR ON ACCOUNTING AND FINANCIALS. HERE'S AN ADVISOR ON LEGAL ISSUES, HERE'S AN ADVISOR ON INTERNATIONAL, HERE'S AN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS LINED UP. SO, AND FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY KNOW THAT SOMEONE'S TAKING THE TIME TO VET THE PERSON, PROVIDING THE SERVICE AS WELL, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET IN THAT MOMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT IT MIGHT BE A SERVICE AND THERE MIGHT NOT BE SALES TAX COLLECTED, BUT IT'S STILL HELPING OUR ECONOMY. IT'S STILL NEIGHBORS HIRING NEIGHBORS BECAUSE WE, IT'S HELPING THE QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL. EXACTLY. IT'S, YEAH, IT'S PR AND MARKETING, UM, ADVISOR THAT HAD AN INITIAL MEETING FOR [01:00:01] FREE HERE, BUT NOW THEY'VE BUILT THAT RELATIONSHIP AND MAYBE THEY'LL CALL AND CONTACT EACH OTHER AND CONTINUE THAT AND IT'LL BECOME A TRANSACTION, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO IT REALLY IS FEEDING INTO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ECOSYSTEM OF THE CITY AT LARGE. I I DO SEE, UM, ON THE EDC FACEBOOK PAGE, AFTER, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMMENTING ON IT WAS GREAT AND ALL THAT. MM-HMM . DO, DO Y'ALL DO FOLLOW UP SURVEYS WITH THE, AND GET SPECIFIC INTERNAL MA'AM COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WE DO. AND THAT TEACHES YOU, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED FROM THAT? THAT YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH MM-HMM . THAT THERE'S THINGS YOU MIGHT DO DIFFERENTLY OR ALL OF THAT? PROBABLY YES. WE USED THAT TO INFORM HOW MANY AND WHAT TYPE OF ADVISOR WE'LL HAVE FOR THE NEXT EVENT. OKAY. SO FOR THIS ONE, UM, THE BIG PUSH WAS REALLY MARKETING, UM, AFTER THIS ONE THAT JUST PASSED. YES. OKAY. WE HAD PEOPLE REGISTER AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT I'M LOOKING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT MM-HMM . AND WHO I WANNA SPEAK TO. AND THEN THE POST-SURVEY, THE THING EVERYONE WAS RAVING ABOUT AND SAID, BRING THEM BACK WAS THE SBDC MM-HMM . AND SO I'M NOT SURPRISED. WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL HOW CAN WE BRING THEM AND INTEGRATE THEM INTO ALL OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMMING SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE OTHER YEAR? IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT? AND NOW WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THEM HERE, YOU KNOW, UM, MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH, UM, IN THE BUILDING SO THEY CAN SET UP APPOINTMENTS. BUT FOR THEM TO MAKE THAT CHOICE, WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT THERE'S A DEMAND. AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE IF THERE'S A DEMAND, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO PUT ON THE PROGRAMMING. SO IT KIND OF ALL JUST FEEDS INTO EACH OTHER. MM-HMM . SO I GUESS I WOULD SAY I FEEL LIKE, AND I, I DON'T HAVE THE KPIS THAT WE SET OUT INITIALLY, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS NUMBER OF UNIQUE BUSINESSES, NUMBER OF UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAD ATTENDING. UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE KNEW IF THE PARTICIPANTS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PARTICIPANTS WERE LOCATED IN FULL SHARE VERSUS EXTERIOR, WE KNOW THAT NOT EVERYONE GETS CAPTURED WITH THAT INFORMATION. UM, REPEAT PARTICIPATION, SO WE UNDERSTAND LEVELS OF ENGAGEMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER KPIS THERE. I GUESS, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, I GUESS WHAT IS THE KPI THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED TO US THAT WE ARE MISSING? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. WELL, THAT, THAT BRINGS UP, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER KAR WAS ONE OF THE FOLKS AT THE COUNCIL, AND I WAS NOT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I DID WATCH SOME OF THE VIDEO, UH, LATER. BUT ABBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND DID WE ANSWER THEM OR, OR WHAT IS, WHAT IS STILL TICKING ALONG UP THAT BRAIN OF YOURS. NO. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. UH, MS. KALIK, I DO SEE SOME OF THE COMMENTS HERE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GIVING A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE, UH, THE EQUATION, SO TO SAY. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY BOTHERING THE CITY RIGHT NOW, OUR FUNDING, AND THAT'S BEEN THE FOREFRONT FOR, UH, FOREMOST OBJECTIVE AT THIS POINT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT, LOOK AT IT FROM A CITY TAX RATE PERSPECTIVE, 1 CENT INCREASE IN OUR TAX RESPONSE TO $560,000. SO WHEN, COME AGAIN, SAY THAT AGAIN. 1 CENT. 1 CENT OF OUR PROPERTY TAX IS EQUIVALENT TO $560,000 THIS YEAR. BASICALLY HALF A MILLION, RIGHT? OVER HALF A MILLION. SO FOR ME, IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO JUSTIFY WHEN WE HAVE A SALES TAX REVENUE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT SALES TAX REVENUE WHERE WE CAN CHOOSE TO SPEND A SMALL PORTION OF THAT FOR, UM, SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE, FOR ALL THESE FEEL GOOD THINGS. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. WHEN WE HAVE OUR REVENUES CAPPED AT TWO AND A HALF MILLION PER EDC BOARD SPENDING ABOUT 10% OF THAT EVERY YEAR FOR A FEEL GOOD, SEEMS TO ME THAT WE ARE NOT THERE YET. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING INTO A RETURN ON INVESTMENT LINE OF THINKING BECAUSE WE JUST HAD A BIG DISCUSSION IN OUR LAST WEEK'S MEETING ABOUT A PROPERTY IN DOWNTOWN THAT'S $200,000, WHICH EDC COULD BLINK AND I AND GET IT IF THEY SO CHOSE INSTEAD OF PAYING FOR CANON FOR ONE YEAR, WHY NOT DO BOTH? UH, WE CAN, YES, BUT I'M SAYING WE DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THAT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LINED UP ARE IN EXCESS [01:05:01] OF OUR FUNDS. UM, SO IF THAT DOESN'T COME FROM THE, UH, FROM YOUR SUPPORT, THEN IT COMES FROM THE GENERAL TAX FUND. SO, SO LET ME THROW A THEORETICAL AT YOU. LET'S SAY YOU TAKE, YOU'VE, YOU'VE TAKEN A QUARTER CENT FROM US. IF YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE 1 CENT FROM AND ON, YOU SAID, YOU SAID 1 CENT WAS A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT. 560,559,000 TO BE EXACT FOR THAT YEAR, 26, 27 BUDGET. NO. 1 CENT IS LIKE THREE OR 4 MILLION. I MEAN, THE, THE SALES TAX, WHAT'S THE SALES TAX LINE ON THE CITY'S BUDGET FOR REVENUE? NOT THIS, I'M TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAX. THE CITY GETS 1 CENT SALES TAX. UH, I THINK THE CENT WAS ONE POINT ESTIMATED 1.25 MILLION, IF I'M NOT WRONG. OKAY, I'LL TAKE THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S SAY YOU JUST WIPE OUT BOTH EDC BOARDS AND YOU PICK UP, WHAT WOULD THAT BE, 2 MILLION, $3 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HOW FAR IS THAT GONNA GET YOU DOWN THE ROAD WITH YOUR HUGE LONG LIST OF, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS? NOT VERY FAR. NOT THIS YEAR. SO YOU ARE CUTTING OFF YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE, BECAUSE YOU'RE NEVER GONNA SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS WITH SALES TAX AND SPENDING $200,000 A YEAR ON SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE. AN ROI WILL NOT DEFINITELY HELP EITHER. THAT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT FOSTERING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND IT'S ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME IN AND BUILD THEIR BUSINESSES THERE AND START HERE. AND SO, I MEAN, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE CITY WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETING AND HOW IMPACT PROPERTY TAX IS THE FACT THAT BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IS SLOWING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START TO TRANSITION OUR RELIANCE ONTO THAT BUSINESS TAX. IF YOU AREN'T GROWING BUSINESSES OF ANY SIZE, REGARDLESS OF SIZE, IF YOU ARE NOT PUTTING MONEY INTO BRINGING BUSINESSES, MAKING BUSINESSES WANT TO COME TO FULL SURE, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONVERT THAT DEPENDENCE. YOU'RE GOING TO BE RAISING TAXES ON PROPERTY TAXES ON THE RESIDENTS EVERY SINGLE YEAR UNTIL BUSINESSES GET TO THE POINT THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT THAT SALES TAX. WHY $200,000 IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET TO MAKE BUSINESSES WANT TO COME HERE, TO INCENTIVIZE BUSINESSES TO COME HERE, TO MAKE FOR SURE KNOWN AROUND THIS COMMUNITY, THIS WEST SIDE OF HOUSTON FOR BEND COUNTY, ALL THAT. YEAH. FORT BEND COUNTY AS A PLACE THAT WANTS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, AND TAKES CARE OF THEIR BUSINESSES AND PROVIDES THEM SUPPORT HOWEVER THEY CAN AND HOWEVER THEY CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. THERE'S TO CASE POINT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE, IF YOU TOOK 100% OF THE MONEY AWAY FROM THE EDCS, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A DROP IN THE BUCKET. AND THE, THE FACT THAT WE'RE DEFUNDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH THE RECENT PROPOSAL TO, OR WITH THE CONVERSION OF SALES TAX AWAY FROM THE A BOARD AT A TIME THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO BE INVESTING INTO BUSINESS AND INVESTING INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT SENDS THE WRONG SIGNAL TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. PEOPLE LOOK AT WHERE WE SPEND OUR DOLLARS. THEY LOOK AND WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR DOLLARS, ASK ANY PREACHER WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR DOLLARS IS WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT. , , WE'VE ALL HEARD THAT SERMON AND THE CITY OF SHORE IS BY NOT SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES BY TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM THE A BOARD, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND FIRST TIME JOBS, OR HOWEVER YOU SAY IT. PRIMARY PRI THANK YOU. YEAH. PRIMARY JOBS THAT SENDS THE WRONG SIGNALS TO ALL BUSINESSES AT ALL LEVELS. AND THIS IS A VERY SMALL WAY. CAN I JUST SAY I WANTED, WANTED TO TAKE AWAY AN EIGHTH OF A CENT FROM EACH BOARD EQUALLY . I DID, I DID, I DID NOT WANT IT ALL TO COME OUT OF THE A BOARD. I I UNDERSTOOD THE BUDGET CRUNCH, BUT I, I WAS HOPING TO SHARE THE PAIN. MM-HMM . AND, AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I, I DID RESEARCH USING DR. GOOGLE AND EVERYBODY WHO WAS AT THAT JOINT WORKSHOP, UH, ALICIA COOK, SHE, SHE DID, SHE WARNED US. SHE'S LIKE, WE ARE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS HERE. YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GONNA COME UP AND HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE AND BETTER IDEAS THAT WE DO. WHICH IS WHY SHE SAID IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE [01:10:01] A CONSULTANT DO THE ECO, THE RENEWED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. SO, SO THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. BUT, UM, I, I, I THINK, I THINK THE CITY HAS A VERY LONG TERM PROBLEM, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS, AND I DON'T THINK THE SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS ARE GONNA SOLVE THE VERY, VERY LONG TERM PROBLEMS THAT ARE FACING THE CITY. AND IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK SOME OF THESE SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS COULD HURT US OVER THE LONG RUN. THAT, THAT'S FROM MY HEART, HOW I SEE IT. I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AS A WHOLE IS A SEPARATE ENTITY THAN THE CITY, AND WE'RE CREATED FOR VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSES AND REASONS. AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS HAVE FELT LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CO-MINGLING OF FUNDS. AND IT, YES, IF YOU DID AWAY WITH A BOARD OR B BOARD OR BOTH, THAT THAT CENT OR A PORTION OF THAT MONEY SALES TAX COULD THEN GO TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN OUR BANK ACCOUNT WOULD TRANSFER TO THE CITY. THOSE ARE FUNDS THAT CAME IN FOR A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND A VERY SPECIFIC REASON. WE'RE HERE FOR VERY SPECIFIC GOALS, AND WE ARE A SEPARATE ENTITY THAN THE CITY. AND THE CITY HAS ITS ROLES AND ITS RESPONSIBILITY AND WHAT IT CAN DO. AND I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE PERFORM THE ROLE THAT IS PUT BEFORE US BY THE GOVERNMENT, THE STATE OF TEXAS IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC A BOARDS AND ECONOMIC P BOARDS. UM, AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD USE OUR MONEY FOR THINGS THAT SUPPORT THOSE SPECIFIC PROGRAMS. AND I THINK THAT WE APPRECIATE THE INPUT OF CITY COUNCIL. WE WANT TO BE PARTNERS WITH CITY COUNCIL. WE WANT TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT WILL BENEFIT THE CITY OVERALL. UM, BUT WE ARE SEPARATE FROM THE CITY. CAN I SPEAK NOW? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. NOW, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CHARTERS OF THE EDCS AS WELL AS THE CHARTER OF THE CITY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS ARE SEPARATE. OUR CHARTERS ARE DISTINCT. OUR AIMS ARE, UM, PARALLEL BUT NOT IDENTICAL. HAVING SAID THAT, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, WHAT I SEE IS WE, I WAS, UM, I WASN'T THERE WHEN CANON WAS HIRED. I GOT ON BOARD AFTER CANON WAS HIRED. I THINK THAT AT THE TIME, UH, UH, YOUR CHAIR WAS, UH, ON THE COUNCIL FOR THE DISTRICT FIVE. BUT WHEN I GOT ON THE COUNCIL, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORTED CANON EFFORTS FOR TWO BUDGETS, THE BUDGET THAT WE PASSED IN FALL OF 2023, AND THE BUDGET THAT WE PASSED IN FALL OF 2024. SO WE HAVE INVESTED OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN CANON IN TWO YEARS. BUT WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT THE FALL OF 2025, WHAT CAME ABOUT WAS, IF WE CONTINUE ON THIS FOR TWO MORE YEARS, WE'D HAVE INVESTED CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS AND TO RECOVER OR SHOW AN ROI SHOW THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE. WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SALES IN ORDER OF ABOUT $50 MILLION TO SHOW FOR. AND I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. IF WE CONTINUED ANOTHER TWO YEARS, THAT'S WHERE OUR VISION DEFERRED IN 2025, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE THE, UH, THE GROWTH THAT WE WERE HOPING FOR AT THAT TIME. AND THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH A, UM, FIVE TWO IF NOT SIX ONE COUNCIL VOTE. SO THAT IS WHERE I THINK WE STARTED LOOKING AT, OKAY, ARE WE ON THE RIGHT PATH? I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ADCS HAVE DIFFERENT OPINION, THE COUNCIL AND THERE, THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE THAT WE ONLY SHARING THOUGHTS OF WHAT WE THINK. I THINK YOU DO HAVE YOUR, UH, DISCRETIONARY BUDGETS THAT WE INCREASED IN YOUR, UH, CHARTER UPDATES LAST YEAR THAT ALLOW YOU TO DO THINGS THAT ARE UP TO, I THINK, $50,000 IF I'M NOT WRONG. SO, AND AT NO POINT WE SAID YOU NEED TO STOP DOING FULL SHARE FAST TRACK. WHAT WE SAID WAS, LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK FROM CANON. WE HAVE HAD TRAINING FROM CANON FOR TWO YEARS, SEE IF WE CAN HANDLE IT IN-HOUSE. IF WE NEED TO HIRE A PERSON, IF WE NEED TO BRING IN, UM, [01:15:01] HOURLY OR SUPPORT AT ANY POINT, IT'S ADJUSTMENT OF HOW WE CAN MANAGE THIS INTERNALLY, EVEN IF IT'S TO DO WITH HIRING A STAFF MEMBER FOR AN EXAMPLE. SO IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE GONNA STOP ALL THE EFFORTS AND WE ARE GONNA THROW OUR HANDS UP AND SAY, THIS IS NO GOOD. WE JUST SAID INVESTING 200,000 A YEAR IN CANON DOES NOT SHOW THE ROI THAT WE ARE EXPECTING FIVE YEARS DOWN THE LINE, BECAUSE YOUR SMALL BUSINESSES AS MUCH OF GOODWILL THAT YOU CAN CREATE AND SEND A MESSAGE OUT ARE NOT GONNA MAKE A $50 MILLION SALES IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. SO THAT IS WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO ALIGN ON WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF, UH, ULTIMATELY THESE ARE PUBLIC FUNDS. THE MAY BE CITY MAY BE EDCS. WE ARE ALL ANSWERABLE TO HOW WE ARE SPENDING THOSE FUNDS AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING BACK FOR OUR RESIDENTS. SO I UNDERSTAND THE, THE FACTOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESSES NEED TO BE WELCOMED AND ALL THAT, BUT WHEN WE ARE INCREASING THE GENERAL SALES TAX BECAUSE WE'RE HURTING FOR FUNDS, IT SEEMED COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO ME TO SAY, UH, WE ARE FOCUSING ON SMALL BUSINESSES THAT IN TURN, IN ORDER OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN FIVE YEARS TO NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER TO THE EVEN BREAK EVEN ON THAT. SO THAT IS WHERE, UM, WE ARE SAYING WE TAKE THE EFFORTS IN HOUSE, WE SEE HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THAT. WE, WE DID GET SBDC AS PART OF THAT INTERACTION TO COME IN. AND IF, I THINK THAT WAS THAT NUMBER WAS SOME 70,000 A YEAR, 80,000 A YEAR. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, COULD BE CONSIDERED AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO HAVE A PERMANENT SBDC INDIVIDUAL HERE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THOSE. IT IS A MATTER OF HOW WE DEFINE WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND HOW MUCH IS A REASONABLE EXPENSE ON CERTAIN THINGS. I UNDERSTAND STRATEGIC PLAN CAN DO. ABSOLUTELY. AND I'M NOT OPPOSED, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO A STRATEGIC PLAN AT ALL. I, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SAID THAT. SO THE UPDATE TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I WASN'T AT THE JOINT MEETING BECAUSE IT WAS A, UH, PRE, UH, PRE-PLANNED, UH, OUT OF TOWN VISIT, BUT I JUST KNOW IT WAS A COUNCIL ACTION TO DENY IT THE LAST TIME IT CAME UP. YES. AT A COUNCIL MEETING, REMEMBER? DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT WAS? WHAT, JUNE? YEAH, SOMETIME IN 2020, YEAH. YES. OKAY. SO IT WAS DENIED AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT CAME TO THE COUNCIL. I THINK YOU'RE PLANNING TO PUT A, AN UPDATE TO THAT BUDGET, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, IT'S IN THE BUDGET. IT'S IN THE BUDGET. SO WE APPROVED IT THIS YEAR THEN? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO I, I DIDN'T SEE A REASON TO NOT GO THAT ROUTE. NOW THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT OUR AIMS ARE, I THINK THAT THAT CLARITY WASN'T THERE LAST YEAR TO THE COUNCIL. I WOULD AGREE THAT THE CLARITY WAS NOT THERE. UM, I THINK THAT AS ALONG WITH, UM, US BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING UPDATE, UM, I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO, TO GO THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, A 50 TIMES INVESTMENT OR ROI, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT IF WE PUT IN A A MILLION DOLLARS, THAT WE'RE EXPECTING 50 MILLION BACK IN WHAT, I MEAN, THERE IS NO, I DON'T KNOW OF A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS THAT COULD GET YOU THAT KIND OF RETURN IN FIVE YEARS. UM, ESPECIALLY IF WHAT WE'RE THE PLAN IS SPECIFICALLY TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES. UM, SO I THINK THAT IT'S, UH, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE JUST UNDERSTAND WHO IT IS THAT WE'RE TARGETING WITH THESE PROGRAMS, UM, WHAT A REASONABLE LEVEL OF EXPECTATION IS FROM THOSE BUSINESSES. AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, AS, AS WELL AS, UM, JUST THE, UH, THE ABILITY TO HAVE TIME TO RUN, UM, I, UH, MY MEMORY IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE, BUT, UM, I'M, WELL, WE DID, WE DID HAVE, WE DID HAVE A STEP DOWN IN FUNDING. WE WEREN'T ASKING FOR 200,000 EVERY YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS. THERE WAS A STEP DOWN IN THERE. WE WERE LOOKING AT TRANSITIONS, UH, ALTHOUGH MAYBE THAT, YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS PORTION THAT WAS NOT COMMUNICATED AT ALL TO THE COUNCIL THAT I REMEMBER, AND I WAS VERY WELL INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION. SURE. WE DID, WE DID REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL POSITION TO BRING IT IN-HOUSE YES. AND REDUCE THE COST. BUT THAT WAS DENIED AS WELL. YEAH, YEAH. THAT WAS ONE OF THE OPTIONS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA MENTION. KEEP SAYING BRING IT IN HOUSE, [01:20:01] BUT I, FORGIVE ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK WE JUST HAVE THAT POWER TO SAY, HEY, I'M NOT DOING IT. WE CAN'T DO IT. YOU GUYS NEED TO GO FIND SOMEBODY TO GO DO IT. IT UNFORTUNATELY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. AND EVEN IF IT'S AN 80,000 SALARY, THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT IT COSTS TO EMPLOY SOMEBODY. YOU KNOW, THE OVERHEAD, THE BENEFITS, THE EVERYTHING. A PACKAGE OF A PERSON ON AN 80,000 SALARY IS REALLY 200, 250,000 SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON THE POSITION AND WHAT WE'RE OFFERING THEM. UM, THE SEAT, THE COMPUTER, THE SURE, SURE. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE CTC, RIGHT? IT ADDS UP TO ALL OF THAT. SO WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT SAME, AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO PUT THE PROGRAM ON. SO IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE $200,000 COST OF THE PROGRAM, YOU GOT $200,000 JUST TO EMPLOY THE PERSON WHO'S THEN GONNA PUT ON THE PROGRAM, THAT'S STILL GONNA COST YOU A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EVEN THOUGH YOU BROUGHT IT IN HOUSE. I MEAN, AND IF I TRY AND DO ROII COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED A RATE OF RETURN OR AN ROI TO SOMETHING I, THIS IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT AND TANGIBLE. UM, WE TALK ABOUT BUSINESSES AND WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING. I MEAN, I THOUGHT, AND I'M NOT THE MATHEMATICIAN, BUT EVEN A BIG BOX RETAIL IS PROJECTED TO BRING 15 TO 20 MILLION IN FIVE YEARS. YEAH. SO IF A BIG BOX IS ONLY BRINGING 15 MILLION, MAYBE 20, 25, MAYBE, I'M GOING TO PUT A BIG STRETCH THERE. THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS THAT I KNOW OF THAT WE CAN ATTRACT. I MEAN, EVEN AT, AT, AT A HOTEL, WOULD, THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER KAR. I I JUST WANNA REDIRECT US. THE SUBJECT IS DISCUSSION ON ENTREPRENEURSHIP RESOURCE PROGRAMMING FOR FISCAL YEAR 27. SO YOU MAY RESPOND IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY ON, ON, UM, MS. NOBLE'S COMMENTS. BUT I THINK WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW AS STAFF THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US IS, IS THERE A METRIC THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE REPORTED? IS THERE AN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT SEEMS ACCEPTABLE THAT WOULD TAKE SOMETHING, FEEL GOOD TO WORTH IT? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO ABOUT IT? GREAT. AND, AND HOPEFULLY I'M, I HOPE THE DISCUSSION HAS HELPED SOMEWHAT THIS EVENING. ABSOLUTELY. IS WHAT I THINK THE WORD THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN THERE TOO, THOUGH IS REALISTIC, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK, AND TO ANELLE'S POINT, I THINK YOU'RE, UH, I MAY HAVE BEEN MISUNDERSTOOD WHEN I SAID 50 MILLION. 50 MILLION IN SALES, NOT 50 MILLION IN SALES TAX. THAT'S, WE ONLY GET 2 CENTS ON A DOLLAR, EVEN $50 MILLION A YEAR IN SALES. IS THIS SIGNIFICANT YEAR? NOT A YEAR. NOT NOT A YEAR. I'M SAYING AN INVESTMENT OF $1 MILLION. MM-HMM . WOULD REQUIRE $50 MILLION IN SALES TO RE GET THAT SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT IN RETURN WITH 2 CENTS ON A DOLLAR. SO I DIDN'T SPECIFY THE PERIOD. IT'S NOT ONE YEAR. IT'S MAYBE FIVE YEARS. IT MAYBE 10 YEARS. UH OH, THAT'S OFF. YOU CAN CONTINUE. THE CAMERAS ARE STILL ON THE MICROPHONE. OKAY. WE'RE STILL LISTENING. HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT. SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT. SO THAT GIVES KIND OF AN EXPECTATION OF WHAT WE'RE TARGETING. AND OKAY. I, I GUESS MY COMMENTS WERE NOT VERY WELL LIKED , BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO NOT FORGET ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE THAT DOES MATTER TO PEOPLE. AND A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WHEN ALL YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IS THE LINE ITEM FORGETS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WHO CARE ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THIS COMMUNITY. ABSOLUTELY. AND WE DID NOT BRING THE FUNDING TO ZERO. ALL WE SAID WAS, WE HAD TWO YEARS FOR TRAINING FROM CANON. LET'S TRY, LET'S COME UP WITH A PLAN TO BRING IT IN-HOUSE. LET'S COME UP WITH A PLAN TO IDENTIFY WHAT THINGS WE CAN DO, WHAT THINGS WE CANNOT DO. WHERE DO WE NEED TO HIRE SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE AND RECALIBRATE, BECAUSE THAT KIND OF FUNDING YEAR AFTER YEAR IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. SO THAT, THAT'S ONE ASPECT I WOULD LIKE THE ADCS TO CONSIDER IS YES, PUT THE FUNDING TOWARDS IT. AND, UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 60,000 ASSIGNED TO THIS EFFORT. SO WHAT IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT ADCS THINK THAT IF WE KEEP IT SUSTAINABLE WOULD REALLY SHOW THE NOS THAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT BRINGING THAT VALUE TO WHAT WE CAN DO WITH SBDC MAY BE A PARTIAL COMPARISON OR COLLABORATION, MAYBE SOMEBODY THAT'S HIRED ONLY FOR THOSE 10 EVENTS THAT WE ARE, UH, HAVE IN HOUSE. BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT NEED THAT PERSON 40 HOURS A WEEK FOR ALL 52 WEEKS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING. SO OPTIMIZE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN AND SEE HOW WE CAN [01:25:01] COME UP WITH A BUDGET THAT IS NOT THAT HIGH WOULD BE THE REQUEST NOT AS, NOT AS HIGH AS $60,000. NO, NO. 60,000 IS ALREADY APPROVED BY COUNCIL. IF YOU NEED AN ADDITIONAL BUDGET IS WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS RECOMMEND, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL AND WHAT ADDITIONAL BUDGET YOU NEED. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I INDICATED THAT THIS IS NOT A QUESTION OF LET'S JUST CUT DOWN THE COST. THIS IS A QUESTION OF LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK. LET'S REVIEW WHAT WE REALLY NEED, WHAT WE CAN, JUST PUSHING IT ON CANON DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT MAY BE THE BEST OPTION. WE DID THAT FOR TWO YEARS. WE HAVE SOME IN-HOUSE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE GAINED OUT OF THE PROCESS. LET'S USE THAT KNOWLEDGE OURSELVES. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE REQUESTING THAT. IT, IT MAY SOUND EASY TO JUST PUT THAT ON CANON, BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER TO BRING THAT IN AND RECALIBRATE AND FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO. MAYBE MAY NOT BE THE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE EFFORTS, MAYBE 75% OF THE EFFORTS, BUT WITH A REDUCED COST. IDENTIFY THE PROGRAMS THAT DID WORK. SOME THAT DIDN'T WORK, THEY ALL PRETTY MUCH WORKED. YEAH. AND DEFINE THE WORD. THAT'S MY QUESTION. SO HOW MANY BUSINESSES DID GET STAR CREATING AWARENESS, HAVING, HAVING INCREASED ATTENDANCE, HAVING GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE. THOSE, LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE FORMATIVE YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO. AND, AND WE PRETTY MUCH HIT IT ON ALL CYLINDERS TO THE POINT WHERE THERE WERE ACTUALLY SOME FOLKS IN SHORE WHO WERE SAYING THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PROGRAM THAT THE CITY IS DOING. ARE Y'ALL LOOKING FOR, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY USE THE TERM ANGEL INVESTORS OR WHAT THEY, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME PEOPLE IN FULCHER SAYING, I'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS. I'D LIKE TO THROW FUNDING YOUR WAY FOR SOME OF THESE NEW BUSINESSES. AND THAT KINDA WENT BY THE WAYSIDE. AND THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE AWAY WITH JUST CANON EXITING. I MEAN, WE STILL HAD IN-HOUSE FOLKS THAT COULD TAKE THAT POINT AND CREATE THE COMMUNICATION LINKS. WE HAD A WEBSITE WHERE WE CAN SAY, WE, THESE ARE OUR EXPERTS THAT CAN COMMUNICATE WITH YOU IF YOU SEND A REQUEST. ACTUALLY, UM, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF STICKY BECAUSE THE BENEFIT OF THE CANON WITH BEING A THIRD PARTY IS THAT MATT WAS ABLE TO FACILITATE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN ANGEL INVESTORS AND BUSINESSES. THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS CORPORATION ACTUALLY CANNOT OR SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN ANY KIND OF ANGEL INVESTING. UM, THERE IS ACTUALLY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THERE'S SOME LEGAL BARRIERS THERE THAT, UM, THAT ACTUALLY CREATE A PROBLEM AND A CONFLICT. SO ACTUALLY HAVING THE CANON THERE WAS ABLE TO HELP US WORK TOWARDS SETTING UP ANGEL INVESTING. SOMETHING THAT WE LOST WHEN WE LOST THE CANON. AND I DO JUST WANNA TOUCH, UM, YOU'VE, YOU'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES, UM, THAT WE HAD HAD SOME IN-HOUSE TRAINING WITH THE CANON BEING HERE, AND MAYBE WE COULD TAKE IT ON A BIG BULK OF WHAT THE CANON BROUGHT WAS NOT TRAINING FOR THE EVENTS. WHAT THE CANON BROUGHT WAS A WEBSITE THAT WAS DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO THAT PROGRAM WAS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD DEDICATED HOURS AND TIME DIRECTLY ON THIS AND WHO COULD FOLLOW UP WITH THESE, NOT JUST SETTING UP THE EVENTS, BUT FOLLOW UP SPECIFICALLY WITH THE BUSINESSES, FOLLOW UP WITH THE MENTOR PROGRAM, AND REALLY BRING THAT EXPERTISE AND, AND GUIDANCE. UM, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ABSORBED INTO TWO PEOPLE WHO ALREADY HAD A FULL TIME JOB. UM, SO THE, THE, WHAT THE CANNON TO, TO SAY, OH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE TRAINING FOR THE EVENTS. THAT'S A VERY SMALL PIECE OF IT. WHAT WE LOST WAS REALLY WHAT WE WERE PAYING FOR, WHICH WAS THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND THE GUIDANCE THERE PLUS ALL, PLUS ALL THEIR OTHER RESOURCES. YEAH. THEY BROUGHT ADVISORS TO THE TABLE. I JUST GONNA, I THINK WE'RE GOING OFF THE, COME BACK TO PROGRAMMING FOR YEAR 27. UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S DONE. WE DO HAVE $20,000 TO WORK WITH FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, AND IT'D BE GREAT TO GET ANY DIRECTION WE CAN, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO LOOK LIKE. YEAH. AND THIS IS A GOOD STARTING POINT. I'M JUST GONNA STICK WITH WHAT ANIL SAID AND FOCUS ON FUTURE EFFORTS. SO IF THERE ARE ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR ANY SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WE NEED HELP FROM THIRD PARTY, LIKE ANGEL INVESTING THAT YOU SAID, LET'S FIND OUT WHO CAN DO THAT FOR US OTHER THAN THAT ONE, UH, ONE OR NONE KIND OF CANON ASPECT AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND THAT [01:30:01] RESOURCE AS A, UM, A LA CARTE INSTEAD OF THE BUFFET ANELLE. IS THERE, UM, A, UH, JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR TO ADDRESS WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE, UM, UH, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M JU I'M USING THE WORD SPREADSHEET, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT, I MEAN, UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE THIS MANY OF THEM. UM, AND THIS WAS THE GOALS OF THEM. SO JUST TO SEE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN, IN LAID OUT, UM, TO HELP ANSWER WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT THERE. SURE. WE CAN CREATE THAT. YOU, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE CURRENT PROGRAMMING FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 AND REPORTING WHAT IT WAS FOR, SO HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IT ATTENDED? YES. I GUESS. AND THEN ARE WE REPEATING THAT FOR NEXT YEAR OR CAN YEAH, YEAH. JUST TO SEE, I, YOU KNOW, I'M, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA SAY SPREADSHEET, BUT JUST TO SEE EVERY, A BIG PICTURE SURE. MM-HMM . UM, OF, UH, WHERE YOU INTENDED TO GO AND, UM, UH, WHERE YOU DID GO, AND ALSO HOW WE CAN HELP YOU TAKE THE NEXT STEPS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU. SURE. I MEAN, WE CAN DO THAT. BASICALLY. IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE BOTH OF THE FRANCHISE WORKSHOPS WORKED OUT EXTREMELY WELL. YEAH. MM-HMM . UM, WHAT IS, WHAT WAS THE FOUNDERS' INSTITUTE THOSE WORKED OUT? I MEAN, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING TO THROW OUT THIS YEAR UNLESS YOU TELL ME YOU THOUGHT SOMETHING WAS A, WAS A, YOU KNOW, PIE IN THE FACE FAILURE, BUT TO ME IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYTHING WAS SUCCESSFUL. SO I WOULD BE HAPPY FOR A REPEAT GIVEN THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS COMING YEAR. AND I'M NOT SURE WE CAN DO A WHOLE LOT MORE WITH THAT FUNDING THAT WE HAVE FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, BASICALLY. CAN YOU ALSO PUT SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT YOU FORESEE OF, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO PROJECT WHAT YOU COULD DO IF YOU HAD NOT A CANON, BUT I MEAN, MAYBE A REQUEST WE HAVE THAT WE EITHER DON'T HAVE TIME FOR OR DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCE FOR. RIGHT. SURE. I DO THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. THE, I THINK THE MOST RECENT EVENT, UM, I THINK THE ONLY FEEDBACK THAT I REALLY GOT, UH, WAS PEOPLE ASKING SOMETHING LIKE, OH MAN. LIKE I, I JUST WISH IT WASN'T ON A WEEKDAY MM-HMM . AND I KNOW THAT WE DID IT ON THE WEEKEND, I THINK THE LAST ONE. UM, SO THIS WAS A SWITCH UP, RIGHT? AND, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT CALLING OUT ESPECIALLY, YEAH, WHAT, WHAT WE, WHAT WE CAN'T DO IN TERMS OF LIKE VARIETY OF MEETING TIMES, HAVING THE SAME MEETING BUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND SUCH. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD THING TO CALL OUT AS WELL. YEAH. I'LL SAY, AND I'M SURE, AND I CAN JUMP INTO AS FAR AS THESE KIND OF LIKE ONE-OFF WORKSHOP EVENT THINGS, THOSE ARE VERY FEASIBLE FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH THE THING THAT WE'VE LOST AT, AT A VERY LOW COST, AT A VERY LOW COST THERE. I MEAN, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY BUILD UP TO IT. THE THING THAT WE'VE LOST THAT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO REPLACE ARE THOSE ONE-ON-ONE KIND OF EVERY OTHER WEEK IN DEPTH ROUTINE, IN DEPTH MEETINGS WITH, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS PLAN, THE ADVISOR SESSIONS. EXACTLY. THE MONTHLY LUNCHEONS. AND ELLEN AND MYSELF WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ENTREPRENEURS , SO I, SO, BUT THE SB DC IS THE ANSWER TO THAT. RIGHT. BUT THE SBDC MAY BE A GREAT RESOURCE FOR IT. UM, SO THIS YEAR KIND OF PAIRING OUT THESE, UM, THESE EVENTS THAT WE RAN THIS PAST YEAR, ADDING SOME MORE, KIND OF SEEING HOW THE SBDC REALLY CONNECTS IN, I THINK WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA GOING FORWARD, WHAT THE PROGRAM CAN LOOK LIKE. AND I THINK THE THING, OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I THINK THE THING THAT HAS KIND OF BEEN EXTERNALLY, UM, MISSED, UH, IS THAT THESE, LIKE I SAID IN MY MEMO, THESE ARE EVOLUTIONARY. WE'RE WE'RE STARTING. AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE YOUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON DAY ONE OF WHEN YOU START A PROGRAM. AND I THINK THAT IS A REALLY BIG PART OF THE MESSAGE THAT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO, UM, TO MAKE IT SEEM, BUT I COULD, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. I, I, IF I'M GOING BY SOCIAL MEDIA AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, WE'RE RAISING OUR TAXES. OH, WE'RE RAISING OUR THIS, AND THEY WANNA KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM AND WHAT WE CAN DO. I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT, BUT OUTSIDE OF, IF YOU JUST TOOK EVERYTHING, THERE'S A LOT MORE, AND I'VE EXPRESSED THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE WAYS OF COMMUNICATING FACTS AND THINGS THAT JUST NEED TO BE OUT INTO PUBLIC PERCEPTIONS. BUT IF YOU TRY AND TAKE THIS AS AN APPLES TO APPLES THIS, AND YOU'RE GONNA GET THIS ROI, IT DOESN'T EXIST. LIKE, I MEAN, I SALES TAX, NOT SALES TAX REVENUE. NO BUSINESS IS GOING TO GENERATE THAT REVENUE. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, WE HAVE TO, WE'RE ONLY GONNA PAY FOR IT IF THIS, IF THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA PRODUCE. THAT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE [01:35:01] LOSING THE SCOPE OF BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP AND BUILDING A COMMUNITY. SO WHAT I HEAR ON EVERY SOCIAL FORUM IS I WANT THE FULL SURE TERM. I KNOW WE HAVE TO GROW. I WANT X NUMBER OF BUSINESSES. I DON'T WANT THE STRIP CENTER TO BE REPEAT X, Y, AND Z . WELL, THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HELPS US GUIDE AND BE ABLE TO ATTRACT THESE BUSINESSES THAT CAN COME. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF THEY JUST COME IN AND IT'S ZONED FOR THIS, WE'VE HAD NO COMMUNICATION WITH THEM. WE'VE HAD NO RAPPORT WITH THEM. AND, AND TO TRY AND ATTRACT SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT GO, OH, WE COULD REALLY USE THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A THAI RESTAURANT OR A WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT, THAT'S ALL THAT'S, I, I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU HAVE TO TRY AND TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR, BUT I'M GONNA FLIP IT ON THE PUBLIC THAT CAN BE LISTENING TO ME RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T SHOW UP, YOU DON'T COME TO THE MEETINGS, YOU DON'T GO TO THE CITY CONNECTS AND YOU DON'T COME TO HERE. SO IF YOU WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND KNOW WHERE YOUR MONEY'S SPENDING, COME JOIN US AND BE PART OF IT. I, I THINK ANOTHER THING TOO THAT WE NEED TO, UH, KEEP IN MIND IS PART B TO ALL OF THIS IS THAT IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AND WE GROW ALL THESE BUSINESSES AND ALL THAT, THEY NEED TO HAVE SPACE TO OPEN AND, UM, THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE AND MAYBE ONE OF THE, UM, UH, ONE OF THE PLACES TO START. AND, AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, FORM OF THAT AT SOME POINT IS A JUST A LISTING THROUGH THE EDC OF AVAILABLE PROPERTIES, HAVEN'T Y'ALL? HASN'T YEAH, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. I KNEW I HAD SEEN IT SOMEWHERE. IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, UM, BEFORE, BUT MAYBE PUBLICIZE THAT MORE OR TO HELP, UM, CONNECT THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY, YOU LOSE STEP TWO IF YOU DON'T, IF IF YOU JUST, UH, AND THEN LIKE WHAT IS AVAILABLE SHOULD BE A FUNNEL. EXACTLY. AND LIKE, UH, HAYDEN AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY INTERESTS ME IS, UM, HOME-BASED BUSINESSES. AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE. UM, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE OPEN, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE, ARE THINGS OPEN DOWNTOWN THAT, UM, UH, TO TAKE THAT STEP TO BE ABLE TO HELP COUNSEL THE STEP OF MOVING FROM, UH, WHICH MOST OF THEM WERE AT THE WORKSHOP, UM, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THAT'S A BIG DEAL. UM, TO TAKE THAT STEP AND TO HAVE HELP DOING THAT, UH, MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD. SO DID YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED, YOU THINK FOR DISCUSSION ITEM F BELIEVE, I BELIEVE SO ENOUGH TO, TO HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK ON AND BRING BACK TO YOU. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, WE'LL KEEP ADJUSTING AS NEEDED. UM, AND WE'RE ALWAYS HERE READY TO HEAR WHAT YOU HEAR FROM OUR BUSINESS OWNERS AND ENTREPRENEURS TO WORK THAT INTO WHAT WE OFFER. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THANK EVERYONE UP HERE FOR ALL OF THE DISCUSSION AND ALL THE INPUT AND THE, UM, BACK AND FORTH WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KAR. I, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING MORE CLARITY THAN WE HAD BEFORE, SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. SO WE WILL GO ON TWO [Business - G] ITEM G, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A FORMAL REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OF ALTERNATE CORPORATION DIRECTOR APPOINTMENT DATES. THANK YOU, MA'AM. OKAY. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD RECEIVED A FEW COMMENTS AND, UM, REQUESTS ON, UM, FOR YEARS. EVERY, WE'VE BEEN HERE THREE YEARS, WE'RE WE'RE, UM, HEADING INTO OUR FOURTH. AND, UM, IT CAUSES PROBLEMS JUST OPERATIONALLY AND, UM, AS WE'RE ONBOARDING NEW BOARD MEMBERS. AND SO, UM, AFTER HEARING ALL THAT REQUESTS, I JUST FELT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO FORMALIZE IT, PUT IT IN WRITING, AND SUBMIT THAT TO COUNSEL, UM, FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION IN, UM, YOU KNOW, AS IT LAYS OUT HERE IN THE LETTER IN YOUR PACKET, JUST CONSIDER CHANGING THE TIMES THE TERMS ARE APPOINTED, UM, AT LEAST WHEN IT COMES TO THE EVC. AND SO TONIGHT WE'RE JUST REQUESTING, UM, YOUR APPROVAL ON, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WHAT'S STATED HERE REFLECTS THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE, UH, MADE TO US IN OTHER MEETINGS, UM, AND MAYBE IN CONVERSATION. AND THEN THAT WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO FORWARD THAT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL. ARE THERE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE APPOINTMENT DATES THAT PROCEED MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS, UNIFORM ELECTION DATES? DO OTHER, DO OTHER CITIES DO THIS TYPE OF THING? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT. I, UH, FOR SOME REASON THIS WEEK ACTUALLY [01:40:01] LAUNCHED THE CAMPAIGNS FOR COLLECTION OF APPLICATIONS, WHICH PROBABLY TELLS ME THE COLLECTION PERIOD PROCESSING WOULD MEAN THOSE PEOPLE COME IN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. UM, SO IT, IT JUST DEPENDS. I'M SURE WE COULD FIND A COMMUNITY THAT DOES IT EVERY SINGLE MONTH OF THE YEAR. DO ALL MEMBERS OF THE ALL COMMIT, YOU KNOW, PNZ AND ALL, UH, THERE'S JUST, THEY'RE ALL ON THE SAME TIMEFRAME RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST ONCE A YEAR. YES. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S RIGHT. UNLESS THERE'S A VACANCY, THEY, OH, THEY MAY APPOINT SOMEONE TO THAT VACANCY. YEAH. AND, UH, TECHNICALLY APPLICATIONS ARE JUST ROLLING, SO AT ANY POINT, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH JUST DIFFERENT, UM, PEOPLE AROUND TOWN THAT SAY, I WANNA GET MORE INVOLVED. THIS ISSUE BOTHERS ME. AND WE ALWAYS TELL THEM, HERE'S THE APPLICATION, FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT IT, AND YOU'LL SEE THE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR WHEN THOSE SUBMIT. OH, SO YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION ANYTIME DURING THE YEAR? YES, THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S JUST THEY, OKAY. MM-HMM . AND WE KEEP THE APPLICATIONS FROM THAT PREVIOUS TERM ON FILE AS WELL. I DEFINITELY, I THINK IT'S A, A GOOD THING TO MOVE IT. I THINK THAT ANY NEW BOARD MEMBER COMING IN, EVEN IF YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN DEBORAH, YOU, YOU WERE ON A, YOU WERE ON A BOARD AND THEN YOU WERE ON A DIFFERENT BOARD AND YOUR FIRST MEETING, YOU'RE VOTING ON A BUDGET. AND OF COURSE, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS OTHER BUDGET, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, YOU, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, EVEN IF YOU'RE SOMEONE WHO IS INVOLVED AND KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE READY TO START, UH, APPROVING BUDGETS AND SUCH. AND SO I THINK, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN ALL BE AS EFFECTIVE AS WE CAN BE. I THINK MOVING, MOVING THE DATES MAKES SENSE. I MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST TO COUNSEL TO MOVE THE APPOINTMENT DATES. I SECOND THE ONE, THE ONE THING I'LL SAY IN FURTHER DISCUSSION IS I, I DON'T KNOW, I COULD SEE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYING, WELL, AFTER I, IF I WIN THE ELECTION, I WANNA HAVE A SAY ON WHO'S ON THE BOARDS AS OPPOSED TO HAVING PEOPLE APPOINTED BEFORE I GET THERE. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW. I'M, I'M KIND OF LIKE SWITZERLAND ON THIS. I CAN SEE, I CAN SEE THE PROS, BUT I CAN ALSO SEE SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST, SO, WELL, OKAY. SO I'LL ASK YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO THE VERY FIRST, WHEN YOU FIRST GOT ONTO CITY COUNCIL. I GOT THOSE APPLICATIONS AND I STARTED CALLING PEOPLE AS SOON AS I GOT ELECTED. AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS I KNEW I WAS GONNA BE SERVING, I STARTED GOING THROUGH APPLICATIONS AND CALLING PEOPLE AND ASKING 'EM WHY THEY WANTED TO SERVE. AND I WAS PREPARED AT THE FIRST MEETING. OKAY. , NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE THAT. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, THAT'S WHAT I DID. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT'S COMMON? SO NOT NECESSARILY. AND, AND SO FOR THE, FOR OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU I I AGREE THAT YEAH. LIKE A COUNCIL MEMBER MIGHT WANNA HAVE A SAY. YEAH. UM, BUT TO ME IT, IT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FAIR FOR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. I THINK THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY VERY WELL FEEL LIKE THEY ARE JUST VOTING IN IT. IT WOULD, SO THE PREVIOUS BOARDS PICKS YOU, TO ME, IT WOULD BE NICE IF, IF CITIES COULD PICK THE DATE THEY WANTED FOR THEIR ELECTIONS INSTEAD OF HAVING THEIR HANDS TIED TO TWO DATES OUTTA THE ENTIRE YEAR. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE CONVERSATION. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF IT. IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE NICE IF A CITY COULD HAVE AN ELECTION LIKE IN MARCH OR APRIL OR SOMETHING, BUT THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T LET A CITY DO THAT, SO. YEAH. SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. YEAH. MOTION BY BONNIE SECOND. ANY ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? NO. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? I'M JUST ABSTAINING IF YOU WANNA PUT THAT DOWN. I, I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN SEE IT GOING EITHER WAY AND THERE AND THERE ARE PROS EACH WAY, SO YEAH, THERE'S PROS AND CONS FOR EACH. YEAH. UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT [Business - H] REPORT OVER TO YOU, ANELLE. YES. THANK YOU. UM, SO JUST FOR ITEMS TONIGHT, FIRST, THE FULL SURE. ENTREPRENEUR RESOURCE FAIR. SO WE DID HAVE ABOUT 75 PEOPLE, UM, IN ATTENDANCE THAT WERE PARTICIPANTS. I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO A HUNDRED COUNTING STAFF, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ADVISORS, PANELISTS. UM, BUT I THINK THE ENERGY IN THE ROOM WAS JUST WONDERFUL. UM, WE'VE RECEIVED VARIOUS TEXTS, EMAILS, PHONE CALLS OF PEOPLE SAYING, WHEN IS THE NEXT ONE I WANNA BRING MY FRIEND? I WANNA BRING MY NEIGHBOR. UM, THEY JUST FOUND IT TO BE [01:45:01] VERY VALUABLE. UM, I THINK OUR ADVISORS JUST ABSOLUTELY ENJOYED EVERY CONVERSATION THEY HAD. UM, AND JUST THE AMOUNT OF LEARNING THAT TOOK PLACE. UM, I THINK BY, BY MUTUAL PARTY. SO THE ADVISOR LEARNED SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT HELPS THEM SERVE FULL SURE BETTER. AND THE PERSON ON THE OTHER END GOT THEIR QUESTION ANSWERED, THAT NOW UNLOCKS, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THEIR BUSINESS. UM, SO OVERALL WE WOULD SAY IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS. UM, SO WE DID THIS EVENT TWO YEARS AGO, DID NOT HOST IT LAST YEAR, BROUGHT IT BACK THIS YEAR. AND JUST BASED ON THE RESULTS, THE EXPERIENCE AND THE FEEDBACK, WE WOULD LIKE TO HOST THIS IN SPRING AND FALL STARTING NEXT YEAR. UM, AND JUST MAYBE DO ONE, ONE ON A WEEKEND AND ONE ON A WEEKDAY, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BRINGING, UM, EVERYONE TOGETHER. SOME, SOME EXAMPLES OF GREAT FEEDBACK THAT I RECEIVED THAT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU HOST THE PROGRAM. RIGHT. UM, THE FIRST YEAR WE HAD EVERY, WE, IT WAS A LONGER, UM, MORE FULL DAY EVENT AND EVERY COUPLE OF HOURS WE HAD A 20 MINUTE STORY OF AN ENTREPRENEUR. AND IT WAS JUST THAT SOLE COUPLE OR PERSON THAT SHARED THEIR JOURNEY. THIS TIME WE DID A PANEL, UM, IT WAS FOUR PARTICIPANTS. THEY ALL GOT THE SAME QUESTIONS WITH VERY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS. UM, AND THE AUDIENCE ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT. IT WAS GREAT. HOWEVER, WE DID GET SOME FEEDBACK THAT, UM, PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WE, WE LOVED HEARING ABOUT SOMEONE THAT WAS RESILIENT AND HOW THEY OVERCAME THESE CHALLENGES AND HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS 10 PLUS YEARS IN THIS COMMUNITY. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO BUSINESS TODAY, RIGHT NOW WITH TODAY'S LAND PRICES AND TODAY'S ECONOMY. SO CAN YOU NEXT YEAR BRING PANELISTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS ONLY ONE TO FOUR YEARS? RIGHT. SO, SO WE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE CHALLENGES WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND WHAT DID THEY DO? SO, UM, I JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS JUST GREAT, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S WHAT, UM, MORE LEARNING FROM PEER THAT GROUP EXACTLY. YEAH. IS LOOKING FOR AND, AND, UM, I THINK I ALREADY HAVE TWO PANELISTS FROM PEOPLE THAT WENT TO PARTICIPATE. OH, COOL. UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS GREAT. UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT EVENT OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD IF YOU WERE ABLE TO ATTEND? UM, WELL, I, OH, SORRY. OH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I WAS REALLY, REALLY SORRY TO MISS IT. I WAS OUTTA TOWN AND I COULDN'T BE THERE, SO. SURE. UM, BUT I CERTAINLY LIKE YOUR IDEA OF HAVING TWO OF THOSE NEXT YEAR. UM, 'CAUSE BOTH, BOTH TIMES IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU JUST HIT IT OUT OF THE BALLPARK WITH, WITH THOSE EVENTS. THANK YOU. WELL, ALL I WAS GONNA SAY WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF GETTING STUFF CREDIBLE, IMPORTANT STUFF FREE, LIKE THE PHOTOGRAPHER, UM, GETTING A PICTURE OF MYSELF FOR MY WEBSITE OR FOR MY BUSINESS CARD OR FOR WHATEVER, AND THROUGH A PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER THAT'S GONNA COST ME $125 TO GO TO IF I GO TO HER STUDIO IS AND THEY ALL WORK. YEAH. BUT THAT WAS A BIG THING LAST TIME TOO, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO DEFINITELY KEEP ON THE LIST. IT WAS NICE TO HAVE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THERE AND THE SBDC AND OF COURSE, UM, YEAH, THAT ENERGY REALLY DID TAKE OVER BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE INVITED TO THE MONTHLY MEETING WAS THE FOLLOWING DAY, SO MAY WE'LL COORDINATE WITH THE CHAMBER MAYBE TO HAVE THAT, UM, MAYBE THE WEEK BEFORE SO PEOPLE HAVE MORE OF A LEAD TIME, UM, BEFORE THEIR MONTHLY EVENT BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM WENT THE NEXT MORNING AND ATTENDED. AND WE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A BENEFIT. SO IT WAS REALLY WONDERFUL. THIS IS PROBABLY A WEIRD IDEA, BUT TO THE POINT OF HAVING PEOPLE WITH MORE RECENT BUSINESS SUCCESS, MAYBE SOMEONE WITH A BUSINESS FAILURE YEAH. THAT, YOU KNOW, HAD TO SHUT DOWN. HAD TO SHUT DOWN AND, AND WHY THEY, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT THEY THINK THEY COULD MAYBE HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY OR, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY HANDLED THE FRUSTRATION AND STRESS OF THAT. SINCE WE KNOW THAT SO MANY SMALL BUSINESSES DON'T MAKE IT, IT MIGHT JUST BE HELPFUL TO, TO HEAR THAT IT MIGHT BE HARDER TO FIND SOMEBODY WILLING TO PUBLICLY YES. TALK ABOUT THAT THOUGH. BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. YEAH. YEAH. MAYBE THEY ARE NOW HAVE A SUCCESSFUL ONE, BUT THEY CAN TELL THE STORY OF THE FIRST, OH, THERE YOU GO. OKAY, , WE CAN LIKE THAT. WE CAN THAT IT'S A GREAT IDEA. ARE YOU A FAILURE? COME ON ON IT. . TELL US WHY. AND, AND THEN FIND SOMEONE WHO FAILED AT ONE THING AND WAS SUCCESSFUL AT SOMETHING ELSE AND HE CAN SAY, THIS IS WHAT I DID WRONG THE FIRST TIME. THIS IS WHAT I DID. RIGHT. THE SECOND TIME LEARNING TO PIVOT. WHO KNOW? YES. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK. . WELL, ALONG THE SAME LINES, I'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, ENTREPRENEUR WORKSHOPS. SO, UM, IN THE FOLLOW UP EMAIL TO EVERY PERSON THAT PARTICIPATED, WE DID GO AHEAD AND SEND THE REGISTRATION LINK AND UPCOMING, UM, WORKSHOP FOR OCTOBER 17TH. THIS IS A SATURDAY FULL DAY AT [01:50:01] IRENE STERN, UM, 10:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AND WE LET THEM KNOW EVEN AS THEY WERE WALKING IN THE DOOR AND LEAVING THAT DAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ENJOY TODAY AND HAVING THESE 15, 20 MINUTE CONVERSATIONS WITH FIVE DIFFERENT ADVISORS, BUT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO MORE IN DEPTH, UM, THIS IS THE EVENT FOR YOU. SO WE'RE, UM, PARTNERING AGAIN WITH THE FOUNDERS INSTITUTE AND REGISTRATIONS, UM, AT LEAST SIX REGISTRATIONS CAME FROM THAT DAY. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT REGISTERED FOR, UM, THE PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS ONES WE'VE SCHEDULED THAT ARE GONNA COME BACK AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS AS WELL. COOL. AND THEN, UM, JUST THIS MORNING, HAYDEN FINISHED SIGNING, UM, THE LETTER THAT WILL GO IN THE UTILITY INSERT FOR OCTOBER, SO EARLY OCTOBER. THAT'LL BE THE FINAL PUSH, JUST PAPER TO SOMEONE'S MAILBOX. UM, AND WE'RE EXPECTING THAT THAT WILL RESULT IN A LOT OF REGISTRATIONS. THAT'S BEEN A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL, UM, PRACTICE PREVIOUSLY. AND, AND THIS MAY, UH, UH, JUST BE ME, BUT, UH, BECAUSE I'M JUST INVOLVED IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF WAY IN THESE THINGS, BUT LIKE THE ENTREPRENEUR RESOURCE FAIR, THE ENTREPRENEUR , SOMETIMES I HAVE TO, WHEN I, WHEN I READ IT, I HAVE TO STOP AND REMEMBER WHAT THAT IS. UHHUH, , UM, MAYBE WE NEED TO REWORK IN, LOOK AT, WELL LOOK AT BRANDING THE FULL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE WHOLE PROGRAM. UM, AND THESE THINGS ARE UNDER IT, BUT IT'S ALL THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IT, IT MAKES ME THINK THAT PROBABLY OTHERS GET A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THIS THING IS. MM-HMM . SO THAT MIGHT BE, I WAS ACTUALLY JUST GOING TO ASK FOR THE SATURDAY ONE. WHAT THE AGENDA MORE IS, IS THIS FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW? THERE YOU GO. YEAH. ENTREPRENEURSHIP OPTIONS OR IS THIS SOMEONE WHO THEY ARE AN ENTREPRENEUR AND THEY'RE TRYING TO LIKE THEY ARE AN ENTREPRENEUR, SO IT'S UNLIKE THE FRANCHISE WORKSHOP. OKAY. IT'S, THEY'RE ASPIRING TO BE AN ENTREPRENEUR AND THEY HAVE SOME IDEAS. THEY'VE ALREADY LAUNCHED A BUSINESS AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO WORKSHOP. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S PART LECTURE BASED AND THEN BREAKOUT GROUPS TO HELP EACH OTHER. UM, AND THE FULL DETAILS FOR THE AGENDA FOR THAT IS ON OUR CITY OF SHORE WEBSITE. OKAY. IF YOU GO TO DEPARTMENTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN, OR YOU CAN JUST SEARCH IN THE SEARCH BAR, UM, ENTREPRENEUR WORKSHOP AND IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THE PAGE AND IT HAS ALL OF THE DETAILS ON PERFECT. KIND OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT PEOPLE FIT INTO THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT FROM THE PROGRAM. AND THE OTHER ONE'S ENTREPRENEURSHIP FRANCHISE, UM, IT'S FRANCHISE, JUST FRANCHISE WORKSHOP. AND WE PARTNER WITH FRAN NET BASED OUT OF HOUSTON. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE SET UP FOR THAT YET. UH, WE DON'T CURRENTLY, BUT WE DO PLAN TO. OKAY. GOT, THANK YOU. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. AND YOU MIGHT GET JUST BACK ON WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER YOU MIGHT GET IS ISN'T THERE LIKE A, A PERSON ON CITY STAFF THAT IS LIKE MARKETING PROMOTION OR SOMETHING? MA'AM, IF YOU, YOU MIGHT GET SOME GOOD IF YOU JUST LAY OUT TO HER WHAT WE'RE DOING. MM-HMM . OR HER OR HIM. I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS, BUT UM, YEAH, IT'S A TEAM OF TWO. OH, OKAY. HER AND HIM. UM, UH, TO GET US TO, YOU MIGHT GET SOME GOOD IDEAS IF, IF KIND OF THE EVERY DAY IS REMOVED FROM IT, GET SOME GOOD IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO, UM, BRAND THAT TO MAKE IT CLEARER FOR EVERYONE. SURE. AND AGAIN, THAT MIGHT JUST BE ME SINCE I'M NOT, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY DOING THAT. IT'S, NO, IT'S NOT. I THINK IT'S A VERY VALID POINT AND ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP I BELIEVE AT THE JOINT MEETING AS WELL. SO WE'VE KIND OF HAD IT. OH, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. FOR FUTURE AGENDA MEETINGS, JUST KIND OF BRANDING IN GENERAL. OKAY. FOR THE CORPORATION. THANK YOU. UM, SO ITEM THREE, FULL CENTRAL UPDATE. WE JUST, UM, PLACED THIS ON HERE. WE MET WITH THEM LAST MONTH, UM, AND JUST GOT KIND OF AN UPDATE. UM, THINGS ARE GOING WELL. THERE'S JUST STILL THINGS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IN TERMS OF RECRUITING TENANTS AND, UM, PARTNERING WITH THEM IN THAT SENSE. AND, UM, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS AS SOON AS BUILDINGS START GOING VERTICAL TO SCHEDULE A TOUR, UM, FOR YOU ALL TO KIND OF SEE, I THOUGHT IT WOULD COOL. JUST BE WONDERFUL TO KIND OF SEE THAT STAGE OF IT BEFORE IT'S, UM, COMPLETED AND SEE THE PROGRESS, YOU KNOW, FIRSTHAND. I WILL SAY THEY HAVE AN ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT WEBSITE AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD ABOUT PUTTING VERY DETAILED PROJECT UPDATES. SO IF THAT'S YOUR THING, PLEASE GO TO FULGER CENTRAL. THEY'RE VERY THOROUGH. UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET US KNOW. THEY'RE, THEY'RE WONDERFUL, UM, AT COMMUNICATING WITH US SO WE CAN GET ANY ANSWERS. YOU MIGHT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD, LIKE FOR YOUR WEBSITE, YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE, LINKEDIN, WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, JUST PUT A BRIEF UPDATE ABOUT SHORE CENTRAL AND PUT THEIR WEBSITE ON IT AND DIRECT MORE IT THAT WAY. SURE. LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING. YES. WE CAN USE SOME OF, UM, THE SAME MATERIALS AND, AND SHARE THEM. WE DID SHARE, UM, JUST AVAILABLE SPACE [01:55:01] RECENTLY FOR THEM AND THAT WAS GREAT. SO WE'LL, WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE SCHEDULE. I'VE NEVER LOOKED, BUT HOW MANY FOLLOWERS DOES YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE HAVE? YEAH, IT'S, THAT'S NOT THAT RELEVANT. SORRY. IT'S A GOOD KPI. OH, YOU'LL, OKAY. . YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M SORRY. . YEAH, MAYBE WE CAN ADD THAT ANYWAYS, YES, WE'LL FIND OUT. UH, LASTLY, JUST HOLIDAY EVENTS. WE DO HAVE OUR, UM, TREE LIGHTING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 5TH HERE AT CITY HALL 1000. OH, THAT'S FINE. THAT'S GOOD. WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE, LIKE WHERE'S THE, WE JUST HIT OUR 1000TH FOLLOWER ANNOUNCEMENT CHECK AGAIN TOMORROW AT 10:00 AM MAYBE . YEAH. I WONDER WHEN WE HIT THAT ACTUALLY BE BECAUSE WE SENT, WHEN WE SENT THAT FOLLOW UP MEETING, UH, POOR PEOPLE, I SENT THEM 1034. OH HEY, UH, THAT BLEW RIGHT BACK . I DID SEND THEM LIKE, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. PLEASE TAKE THE SURVEY SO WE CAN DO THIS AGAIN. ALSO, HERE'S THE PROGRAM WE HAVE, BY THE WAY, WE HAVE A LINKEDIN AND WE HAVE A FACEBOOK AND ALL THESE OTHER EVENTS AND LET US KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO FOR YOU. SO MAYBE INFORMATION OVERLOAD, BUT WE DID SEE THE SPIKE IN FOLLOWERSHIP, UM, CORRESPOND TO THAT COMMUNICATION BEING SENT OUT. GOOD. UH, HOLIDAY EVENTS, TREE LINING DECEMBER 5TH AT CITY HALL AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING, UM, WITH OTHER BUSINESSES ON BOOKING THOSE SMALLER, WE CALL THEM MICRO EVENTS, 300 TO $500. UM, WE TRY TO DO AT LEAST FOUR DURING THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, OR LAST HALF OF NOVEMBER. UM, AND JUST KIND OF ENHANCE SOMETHING THEY ALREADY HAVE GOING ON. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT. WHAT ABOUT, UM, DIDN'T WE DO SOMETHING LAST YEAR WHERE YOU VISITED BUSINESSES AND GOT A PICTURE OR AM I MAKING THIS UP? NO, WE'VE DISCUSSED DOING THAT IN THE, IN THE PAST. WE HAVE THE EXPANDABLE BANNER THING. YES. WE, SO WE ESSENTIALLY JUST WENT AROUND TOWN AND, UM, ASKED, IF YOU'RE HOSTING A A EVENT, LET US KNOW AND WE'LL ADD IT TO OUR CALENDAR. SO OUR VISION WAS THAT PEOPLE WOULD SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING AROUND TOWN EVEN IF WE WEREN'T INVOLVED, BUT IF THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY CAME ALONG AND THEY'RE HAVING THIS EVENT, CAN WE SPONSOR A PHOTO BOOTH FOR YOU? SO ENHANCE THE EVENT IN THAT SENSE. UM, AND WE HAD IDEA, A RETRACTABLE BANNER AT THAT EVENT THAT SAID, WE SPONSORED THIS, THAT SCAN THIS QR AND YOU'LL SEE ALL THE EVENTS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE MONTH SO THAT FAMILIES CAN FIND SOMETHING TO DO. UM, WHAT WAS I GONNA SAY? UM, FOR HOLIDAY EVENTS I FELT LIKE, AND THING, THINGS ARE ON SCHEDULE FOR, UH, DECORATIONS. HOLIDAY DECORATIONS. YES MA'AM. THEY ARE GOOD. THEY'RE, I FEEL LIKE WE DID, SOMEONE DID, SOMEONE DID SOMETHING ONE YEAR WHERE LIKE YOU WENT ALMOST LIKE A PASSPORT. LIKE YOU WENT AROUND AND EACH BUSINESS IS LIKE STAMPED SOMETHING AND THEN LIKE YOU GOT, YOU COULD BRING IT TO LIKE CITY HALL AND GET A BAG OF CANDY OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW. SO I DON'T WE'LL SHARE MORE UPDATES WITH YOU NEXT MEETING. YEAH, WELL IT'S NOT ON HERE AS AN ITEM, SO YEAH, WE, WE WILL SHARE SOME MORE. OKAY. OKAY. SO [V. Executive Session] EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY 5 5 1 0.072. DISCUSS THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY. 5 5 1 0.0 87 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EDC OWNED PROPERTY AT 30,603 FM 10 93 AND 30,609 FM 10 93 RE, TEXAS 7 7 4 4 1. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7 59? 7 59? YES. . SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT, WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE'LL SEE YOU IN A MINUTE. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DO WANNA STATE OUR ATTORNEY IS AVAILABLE IN THIS SESSION BY PHONE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE ARE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION AND I'M SORRY, CATARACTS ARE STILL BOTHERING ME. 8 0 8 MM-HMM . AT 8 0 8. WE WILL GO BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION. IS THERE ANY ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO. ACTION. VERY GOOD. ONTO [Recurring Items - A] AGENDA ITEM SIX, SUBTOPIC A ANNOUNCEMENTS. ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? UM, I BELIEVE THAT OCTOBER 5TH IS THE LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS. THAT IS A GREAT ANNOUNCEMENT. , THIS [02:00:01] IS A CALL OUT. THAT'S IT? YES. IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED, GET REGISTERED. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE REGISTERED, IT'S SUPER EASY TO CHECK. THERE'S SOME WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN GO TO TO CHECK. RIGHT? I THINK IT'S LITERALLY LIKE REGISTERED TO VOTE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE, OR YEAH. VERY GOOD. IT'S NOT TOUGH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? UH, IT IS ANELLE'S BIRTHDAY ON WEDNESDAY AND WE WISH ANELLE A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY. ALSO A VERY GOOD, ALSO A VERY GOOD ANNOUNCEMENT. IS THERE 21ST ? OKAY. I THINK WE'VE COVERED ANNOUNCEMENTS THEN. WE'RE [Recurring Items - B] ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS? I JUST THINK ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS NECESSARILY AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AT THE WORKSHOP WAS A JOINT CITY COUNCIL EDC MEETING. UM, I THINK THE LENGTH OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT SHOWS THAT THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. THERE'S PROBABLY JUST THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TALKED THROUGH. UM, YEAH. RIGHT. I THINK WAS THE CONSENSUS AFTER OUR FIRST MEETING TO HAVE IT EVERY SIX MONTHS, WAS THAT THE CONSENSUS OR WAS IT QUARTERLY? I FORGET. UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS QUARTERLY, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MEETINGS, SO I FEEL LIKE SIX MONTHS IS A GREAT PLACE TO START. YES. AND JUST KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO KICK OFF THE STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT WE'LL NATURALLY HAVE MEETINGS, FOUR MEETINGS, FOUR MEETINGS WHERE WE'LL ALL COME TOGETHER THAT OKAY. THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF IT. THOSE, THOSE WILL SUFFICE FOR SOME OF THE MEETINGS. NO DOUBT. THAT'LL WORK. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I THINK WE ARE UP TO ADJOURNMENT. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOTION SECOND. I SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8:11 PM THANK YOU SO MUCH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.