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GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.THIS IS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 11TH.
AND WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 9:00 AM WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
ANY CITIZEN'S COMMENT COMMENTS? NOPE.
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HAVE YOU HEARD FROM RICHARD? DO WE KNOW IF HE'S COMING? RICHARD? WELL, I DIDN'T SEE YOU BACK THERE, RICHARD.I LIKE THE, THE, I LIKE THE LOOK.
SORRY FOR THE COWBOY HAT RIGHT NOW.
CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION 20 26 7 19.
APPOINTING DAN GRAHAM FOR PARKS AND REC, UH, REPLACING DAX RILEY.
AND WE HAVE SOME OTHERS BUT DOESN'T REALLY REGARD TO PARKS AND REC, SO THANK YOU.
DID YOU WORK FOR CITY COUNCIL? SAME VERSION.
AND, UM, I THINK HE'LL BE A, A BIG BENEFIT.
HE'S, UM, HE RUNS A COMPOSTING COMPANY, SO, AND I THINK RYAN, YOU, YOU'VE WORKED WITH HIM, HAVEN'T YOU? I HAVE, YES.
UM, WE GOT THAT ONTO BUSINESS FIVE,
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A APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 14TH.HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH THOSE? EXCUSE ME.
AND IF YOU HAVE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION GO FURTHER AND I'LL SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT OF THE VICE CHAIRPERSON FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE RYAN
IS THAT A SECOND? YEAH, THAT'S A SECOND.
UH, THIS TERM WILL BE STARTING TODAY AND END, UM, IN JANUARY WHEN WE DO THE NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
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ITEM C PRIMROSE AMPHITHEATER NAMING RIGHTS.REQUEST A DISCUSSION OF A REQUEST FOR NAMING RIGHTS FOR THE PRIMROSE PARK AMPHITHEATER FROM HOUSTON METHODIST.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HOUSTON METHODIST TODAY.
UM, SO HOUSTON METHODIST IS INTERESTED IN BEING THE NAMING RIGHTS SPONSOR FOR THE PRIMROSE PARK AMPHITHEATER.
THE SPONSORSHIP WOULD BE FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM AND WOULD BEGIN ON THE DAY OF PRIMROSE PARK'S PHASE THREE GRAND OPENING AND END FOUR YEARS AFTER THE GRAND TOTAL FOR THE SPONSORSHIP IS 20 GRAND.
AT THE END OF FOUR YEARS, USE AND METHODIST CAN RENEW THEIR SPONSORSHIP OR ALLOW FOR ANOTHER SPONSOR TO HAVE NAMING RIGHTS IF DESIRED.
THEY HAVE THE MADE THE REQUEST TO PAY 10,000 IN 2026, AND THEN THE REMAINING, UH, 10 GRAND IN 2027 ONCE PHASE THREE OPENING HAPPENS.
UM, AND THEN THE NAME REQUEST FOR THE AMPHITHEATER IS HOUSTON METHODIST AMPHITHEATER.
SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION, UM, APPROVES THAT NAME.
AND IF SO, WE'LL TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL TO GET THEIR APPROVAL AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER OPTIONS WITH NAMES, HOW THAT WORKS OUT OR AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE NAME REQUEST AND SO IT'S, IF WE WANT TO TROUBLESHOOT IT, WE CAN, UM, BUT IF WE LIKE THE NAME, WE CAN JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S, YEAH.
GET CREATIVE ON A NAME OR SOMETHING.
I THINK TYPICALLY THEY, IF YOU HAVE A SPONSOR FOR SOMETHING, IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST THEIR NAME.
UM, MOVING RIGHT ALONG, UPDATE ITEM D, UPDATE
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AND DISCUSSION OF PARKS AND PATHWAYS MASTER PLAN PRESENTED BY BURDETT CONSULTANTS.LONG TIME SINCE I BELIEVE BEFORE YOUR COMMISSION AND NEW NEW OFFICE.
IT'S BEEN A VERY BUILDING TIME HERE.
IT'S A NICE, UH, I WAS EXPECTING ROUND TABLE STILL, SO, UM, BUT I DID BRING 11 BY 17 PRINTOUTS FOR Y'ALL.
THAT MAKES THIS A LITTLE BIT EASIER SINCE WE GO DIGITAL.
UH, COPY OF THE PROBABLE COST AND THESE CONCEPTS.
UM, Y'ALL ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH, BUT I WILL SUMMARIZE WHERE WE'RE AT HERE.
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SO THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WE'VE BEEN, UH, STARTING IN ABOUT LATE JULY, WE, UH, BEGAN, UM, WORKING ON, UM, UPDATES TO THE PARKS AND PATHWAYS MASTER PLAN.THIS ISN'T A, A COMPLETE DOCUMENT UPDATE, RATHER IT'S, UM, FOLLOWING THE TREND THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2018.
THIS IS KIND OF INCREMENTAL UPDATES AS, UM, DEMAND FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS HAS CHANGED OVER TIME AS YOU CONTINUE TO GROW.
AND, UM, NEW OPPORTUNITIES COME ABOUT.
UM, PROPERTIES, UM, THAT HAVE BECOME AVAILABLE, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE BETSY'S CREEK PARK DURING THE LAST ONE, TWO YEARS AGO WAS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
AND, UM, SO, UM, ONE OF THE BIG, UM, IDEAS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME UP TO POTENTIALLY ACQUIRE SOME NEW PARKLAND ON THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE CITY'S ETJ, UH, WITH ONE OF THE LOCAL DEVELOPERS.
UM, NOTHING IS OF COURSE, SET IN STONE, BUT, UH, THE DEVELOPER INITIALLY WENT TO THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER OPTIONS TO WORK WITH THEM.
THE COUNTY WANTED FULL CONTROL OF DESIGN, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE DEVELOPER WAS LESS INTERESTED IN THAT, WANTED A BETTER PARTNER.
SO, UM, ZACH GOODLAND ASKED US TO, UM, PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL TO COME TO Y'ALL WITH, UH, SOME IDEAS FOR HOW TO, UH, BRING ABOUT SOME CONCEPTS FOR THAT SITE.
AND THEN BECAUSE, UH, WHATEVER HAPPENS AT THAT SITE WITH THAT CONCEPT WOULD ULTIMATELY CHANGE POTENTIALLY PROGRAM AT PRIMROSE PARK, UM, IF THEY ACQUIRED THE, IF Y'ALL ACQUIRED THE EXTRA FOUR ACRES.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THAT WOULD MIGHT CHANGE IRENE STERN PARK AS WELL.
UM, ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT, UM, THIS WHOLE UPDATE PROCESS IS TO LOOK AT THREE POTENTIAL SITES FOR SOME POCKET PARKS THAT WOULD BE, UH, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF LAND, UM, AT, UH, VARIOUS LIFT STATIONS.
AND, UH, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT HERE SHORTLY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE BIG REGIONAL PARK CONCEPT FIRST, WHICH IS THE LAST PAGE ON YOUR DRAWINGS.
UM, SO THE ALMOND DAIRY DEVELOPERS, UM, WE MET WITH THEM AND DISCUSSED THEIR INTENTIONS FOR WHAT THIS AREA LOOK WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW MUCH LAND AND WHAT PORTION OF LAND THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN, IN POTENTIALLY WORKING WITH THE CITY, UM, TO CREATE A PARK AT, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY PURCHASES THAT LAND OR IS DONATED TO THEM.
THESE ARE ALL QUESTIONS ON THE TABLE.
UM, BUT THE, THE GOAL HERE IS TO, UM, CREATE SOME, A, A WAY TO ADD MORE RECREATION TO THE CITY'S ETJ AND, UM, AND EVENTUAL CITY LIMITS AND, UM, AND SERVE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT CAN'T BE MET AT, UM, PRIMROSE PARK, IRENE STERN OR, UM, OR FRANCIS SMART PARK, UM, AS WELL.
AND SO, YOUR, YOUR COMMUNITY HAS GROWN DRAMATICALLY, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
AND, UM, PARK LAND WISE, Y'ALL, Y'ALL REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP TO DATE.
Y'ALL DOING YOUR BEST YOU CAN, BUT IT'S JUST, THAT'S A LOT OF GROWTH.
IT'S, IT'S THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE COUNTRY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, AND SO, UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME MORE SPACE.
THE LAND OUT THERE IS AG LAND, ALL OF IT.
IT'S, UM, A A COMBINATION OF ROW CROPS AND PASTURES.
UM, THERE'S SOME, UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY ALONG SOME DRAINAGE WASTE, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S PRETTY MUCH A, UM, A BIG OPEN, CLEAN PALETTE.
UM, THE DEVELOPERS HAVE STATED THAT THEY WANTED SOMETHING THAT FIT, UM, WITH THEIR, UH, WITH THE AGRICULTURAL, UM, YOU KNOW, VIBE, IF YOU WILL.
THEY LIKE THE LOOK OF OPEN SPACES, THEY LIKE WILD FLOWERS.
THEY LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WANNA SEE ACTIVE AGRICULTURE.
THEY HAVE AN INTENTION TO KEEP SOME OF THEIR EXISTING, UM, AGRICULTURAL LEASES WITH, UH, THEIR TENANTS.
THEY'VE GOT A LONG TIME TENANT THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE THAT THEY REALLY LIKE AND, UM, THEY LIKE HAVING COWS AROUND AND THEY LIKE SEEING SOME FARM UH, FARMING OPERATIONS GOING ON.
AND SO THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO GO OVER THE TOP AND TURN IT INTO DISNEYLAND, BUT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT FITS, UH, BOTH THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND, UM, FITS THE, THE NEW COMMUNITY THAT'S GROWING OUT THERE.
UH, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF EARTH WORK OUT THERE.
THERE'S SOME BIG GIANT DETENTION FACILITIES.
IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT TO A BRIDGE LAND OVER THERE ON THE WEST SIDE, YOU'VE SEEN THE KIND OF WAY THOSE BIG LARGE DETENTION PONDS LOOK WHERE THEY'VE GOT LIKE WETLAND GRASSES GROWING AROUND THE EDGES AND STUFF.
THAT'S THE ULTIMATE, UH, VISION FOR WHAT THOSE DETENTION FACILITIES WOULD LOOK LIKE BECAUSE ALL OF THIS AREA, UM, THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR A PARK IS IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN.
UM, WHICH IS A CHALLENGE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED DURING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE, SHOULD THIS COME ABOUT.
BUT A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLANE NOT FLOODWAY IS, UM, AMENABLE TO RECREATION ACTIVITIES, UM, WITH THE RIGHT DESIGN.
SO, UM, IN THIS CONCEPT, UH, WE SOUGHT TO LOOK AT, UH, WAYS TO FILL THOSE GAPS IN RECREATION.
NOW YOU'VE GOT, UH, YOUR FIRST PHASE OF PRIMROSE OR YOUR SECOND PHASE TECHNICALLY OF PRIMROSE PARK, UM, UM, MOVING ALONG QUITE
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NICELY.AND SO YOU'VE SERVED SOME OF THAT BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL NEEDS THERE.
BUT THERE, IT'S REALLY THAT, UM, IT'S MOSTLY A BASEBALL COMPLEX AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A TRUE HOME FOR SOFTBALL PROGRAM SOFT BECAUSE, UH, ONE FIELD IS NOT GONNA MEET THE DEMAND THAT'S GROWING.
THERE ARE OTHER FIELDS, UM, IN THE REGION, UH, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE NOT TO HAVE THE DRIVE SO FAR TO PLAY BALL, UM, BOTH FOR PRACTICE AND FOR, UM, GAME PLAY.
SO, UM, THIS CONCEPT SHOWS ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, RELATIVELY CENTRAL, UM, A, UM, WHAT WE CALL, UM, BASEBALL SLASH SOFTBALL FIELDS, UH, SIZED APPROPRIATELY WHERE THE PROGRAMMING COULD CHANGE AS NEEDED TO MEET THE DEMAND.
UM, AND THEN, UH, SOCCER, WHICH IS ALSO, UM, CONTINUING TO GROW IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND YOU'VE GOT EAGLE, UM, EAGLE LANDING PARK SERVING A LOT OF THAT NEED.
BUT HTX SOCCER HAS ALREADY SAID THAT THEIR PROGRAM IS STILL GROWING, UM, MASSIVELY THERE IN, IN, IN SERIOUS NEED.
I THINK THEY'VE GOT 1300 ENROLLED PLAYERS RIGHT NOW ALREADY AND MORE TO COME.
AND, UM, SO IT, THAT'S, IT'S A BIG GAME.
UM, SO, UH, WE, THIS CONCEPT SHOWS THESE, UM, EXTRA, UH, FOUR FIELDS.
THESE ARE FOUR FULL SIZE FIELDS THAT CAN BE BROKEN UP INTO WHATEVER AGE GROUPS YOU'D LIKE TO PLAY ON.
BUT, UH, CALLING THOSE MULTI-USE FIELDS BECAUSE THERE'S A DEMAND IN THE AREA FOR, YOU KNOW, CRICKET, LACROSSE HAS, UH, IT'S GOT POTENTIAL, UM, AND THERE MIGHT BE FOOTBALL.
UM, ALL OF THOSE ARE, UM, ON THE TABLE.
SO, UH, WE LIKE TO THINK OF 'EM AS DIAMONDS AND RECTANGLES.
UM, THEY CAN BE PROGRAMMED HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE WITH MI MINOR CHANGES.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST STRIPING TO, UM, ACCOMMODATE, UM, A GIVEN SPORT.
YOU STILL GOT A LOT OF LAND OUT HERE TO CONSIDER.
UM, THIS IS, UM, APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER 700 ACRES, UH, UM, THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE WEST SIDE, THE LEFT SIDE OF THE, UH, PHOTO, YOU DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF, UM, DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CONCEPT.
THAT'S BECAUSE, UM, THE DEVELOPER WAS INTERESTED IDEALLY IN KEEPING THAT AG, AT LEAST FOR THE, THE MIDTERM.
UM, THEY REALLY LIKED THEIR TENANT THERE.
UM, AND, UM, SO WE PROPOSED AN IDEA OF, OF STILL ALLOWING FOR SOME TRAIL ACCESS TO THAT SIDE AND CREATING, UM, YOU KNOW, GATED CORRIDOR WHERE, UM, THEY COULD MOVE THEIR CATTLE INTO THAT SECTION WHEN THEY WANT TO.
BUT JUST LEAVING THE DOOR OPEN FOR FUTURE RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES, UM, LONG TERM, ALSO THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THAT PARCEL.
THE FONDER FAMILY ARE VERY PRO RECREATION AND YOU NEVER KNOW IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE WORK WITH THEM SOMETIME IN MANY YEARS IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, JUST KEEPING THOSE, THOSE OPTIONS OPEN.
UH, YOU WILL SEE SOME LITTLE, UH, RECTANGLES AND THAT ARE DASHED LINES ON HERE.
THOSE ARE REPRESENT, UM, DRILL SITES.
UM, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE JUST, UH, MINERAL RIGHTS AT, AT THE MOMENT.
THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE PLANS FOR THE, UH, DRILLING TO OCCUR ON THOSE SITES, BUT, UM, THOSE JUST, UH, WERE SOMETHING WE HAD TO BE AWARE OF WITH ANY PROPOSED, UM, DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THOSE WOULD ULTIMATELY STILL BELONG TO THE OWNER OF THOSE RIGHTS.
IN THE CENTER OF THE, UM, CONCEPT, YOU'LL SEE THESE LOOP TRAIL, THE OUTERMOST LOOP THERE.
IT'S, UM, I THINK IT, THE TAG NUMBER ON THAT WOULD BE, OH, I CAN'T SEE, FORGOT MY READERS.
5 14, 14, UH, IS, UH, A PROPOSED VELO WAY.
UM, AND AS SHORE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF CHALLENGES WITH CYCLISTS, ROAD CYCLISTS IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY'RE STILL OUT THERE.
LAST TIME I WAS OUT HERE A WEEK AGO, THERE WAS A ROAD CYCLIST OUT THERE CRUISING, UM, BACK ROADS, UH, BECAUSE IT'S BEAUTIFUL HERE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT QUIETER, IT'S GROWING LESS SO, BUT, UM, BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE.
AND, UM, EVEN BACK IN 2008 WHEN WE WERE WORKING WITH Y'ALL, THERE WAS A, UH, ALWAYS A CONFLICT BETWEEN CYCLISTS AND DRIVERS.
AND SO THIS IS AN IDEA TO CREATE A VELO WAY.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE AUSTIN VELO WAY, WHICH IS A PROJECT THAT'S IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR TO THE LADY BIRD JOHNSON WILDFLOWER CENTER IN AUSTIN.
AND IT'S A, THEIRS IS A 3.1 MILE LOOP, I THINK ALL THE WAY AROUND 23 FOOT WIDE, UM, ASPHALT.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S DEDICATED EXCLUSIVELY TO CYCLISTS AND, UH, ROLLER SKATERS, ROLLER BLADERS PRIMARILY.
AND THERE'S A, THERE'S TWO LANES.
THERE'S A FAST LANE AND A SLOW LANE.
AND IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO, TO GET ON THEIR ROAD BIKES IN A SAFE PLACE.
THAT'S, UM, THAT'S, UM, NOT GONNA CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC.
IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE LIKE 1995 AND THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THAT IN THIS REGION.
AND SO WE THOUGHT, WELL, THERE'S THIS MUCH OPEN SPACE, YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S A, IT'S AN INCREDIBLE DRAW.
UM, IT ALLEVIATES A CHALLENGE THAT YOU'VE HAD LONG TERM IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, UH, WITH THE ROAD CYCLIST TRAFFIC AND, UM, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
SO, UH, WE SHOW IN THIS CONCEPT, UH, BRINGING BACK A MORE OF A, A WILD, UM, COASTAL PRAIRIE KIND OF EFFECT IN THE INTERIOR PORTION OF THAT WITH SOME, UM, PEDESTRIAN TRAILS COMING THROUGH THERE.
AND, UM, AND, AND GOING OUT TO THE, UM, VARIOUS OTHER PARTS OF THE PARK.
UM, AND DEFINITELY SOME TREE PLANTINGS NEED TO GO IN THERE AS WELL.
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'CAUSE IT'S, THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, UM, EXCEPT FOR, UM, UH, ROW CROPS AT THE MOMENT.AND SO JUST CREATING SOME MORE INTEREST.
UM, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR DETENTION, UH, TO DEAL WITH STORM WATER WITH ANY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ZOOMED OUT AT THIS SCALE.
BUT YOU'VE GOT PARKING, YOU'VE GOT, UH, WALKWAYS, UM, YOU'VE GOT PADS FOR FUTURE CONCESSION, RESTROOM STANDS, UH, ALL THOSE THINGS, UM, WILL INITIATE A NEED FOR STORM WATER DETENTION.
SO, UH, WE'VE GOT A PRELIMINARY CONCEPT FOR A DETENTION POND HERE THAT WOULD HAVE A, A RETENTION FEATURE.
SO THERE WOULD BE A PERMANENT POOL ELEVATION OF WATER IN THERE.
YOU COULD GO FISHING OUT THERE IF YOU'D LIKE.
AND, UM, THAT FILL HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE THAT CAN BE USED TO CREATE INTERESTING TOPOGRAPHY ALONG THAT VELO A AND SOME OF THOSE, UM, PEDESTRIAN TRAILS TO JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE INTERESTING.
'CAUSE IT IS A BIG FLAT PIECE OF LAND AT THE MOMENT.
UM, DISC GOLF WAS ANOTHER IDEA THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP THROUGH PUBLIC INPUT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL PLANNING SESSIONS.
AND SO, UM, THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR DISC GOLF OUT THERE.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE ADDING SOME TOPOGRAPHY, PLANTING SOME TREES, CREATING, UM, SOME, SOME, UM, CHALLENGES MAKES DI GOLF DISC GOLF MORE INTERESTING.
UM, THEY TEND TO LIKE, UM, FEATURES MUCH LIKE REGULAR GOLF.
UM, GUYS, THEY, THEY WANT TO SEE SOME CHALLENGE.
THEY WANNA SEE SOME WATER HAZARDS OR, YOU KNOW, SAND PITS.
UH, WHAT DO YOU GOT? BUNKERS, UM, TREES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WELL, THE GOLFERS DON'T LIKE TREES, BUT DISC GOLFERS DO
AND, UM, SO, AND OVERALL, UM, UH, PEDESTRIAN TRAILS YOU'LL SEE GOING THROUGHOUT VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF, OF THE PARK SPACE.
AND, UM, THE GOAL HERE WOULD BE TO, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGES OF EXISTING ROAD ACCESS ALONG STRATMAN ROAD PRIMARILY.
I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THE LONG TERM FOR BEETLE IS BECAUSE I'VE SEEN TWO DIFFERENT STORIES ON THAT.
UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S CLOSED UNTIL THE 29TH OF NEXT MONTH, ACCORDING TO THE SIGN ON THE END OF THE ROAD THERE.
BUT THERE'S A LONG TERM VISION ON THE COUNTY THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT SHOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CURVE TO, UM, BEETLE, UH, SLIGHTLY TO THE NORTH OF HERE.
IF THAT SHOULD HAPPEN BY THE TIME THAT IF THIS HAPPENS, UH, TO GO INTO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, THEN, UH, THERE WOULD, THIS WOULD NEED TO BE RECONFIGURED TO CREATE A DIFFERENT ACCESS.
BUT IT'S NOT A DEAL BREAKER FOR NOW.
WE'VE GOT A CONCEPT WHICH IS JUST A, IT'S A WAY OF THINKING IT TO, UH, TO SEE WHAT COULD BE.
AND, UM, AND, AND THIS IS ALSO REALLY A MARKETING TOOL TO GET THIS LAND BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T OWN IT.
AND SO, UM, SOMETHING THAT, THAT ACHIEVES THAT VISION THAT THE, THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE PROUD OF AND THE CITY WOULD BE PROUD OF IS THE GOAL OF THAT ONE.
AND, UH, I DID PROVIDE OPINIONS OF PROBABLE COST.
UM, THIS PART, DON'T BE TOO SCARED OF THE PRICE BECAUSE THIS, THAT'S THE ALL IN EVERYTHING PRICE.
UM, COMES OUT TO, LET'S SEE IF I CAN, IT'S ON, ON, OH, IT'S IN ORDER.
SO IT'D BE THE LAST PAGE, UM, WOULD COME OUT TO APPROXIMATELY $56 MILLION, UM, ON THE LOW, LOW END, $50 MILLION.
UM, MAJOR COSTS HERE IS EARTH MOVING AND PAVEMENT.
UM, WE DID REDUCE THE, UM, THE VELO WAY TO 13 FOOT WIDE IN THIS CONCEPT, UH, WHICH ROUGHLY CUTS THE COST OF THAT IN HALF.
BUT, UH, PARKS ARE EXPENSIVE THESE DAYS,
AND SO, UM, JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, UH, THIS IS A LONG-TERM VISION.
THIS, UH, NONE OF THESE ITEMS CAN'T BE FACED.
UM, OF COURSE IF YOU DECIDE TO PUT IN, UH, LARGE AMOUNTS OF PARKING AND, UM, OTHER PAVING FEATURES, THEN DETENTION BECOMES THE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT NEEDS TO GO IN THERE.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF.
SHOULD YOU GO AFTER, SAY, UM, A GRANT APPLICATION WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, FOR INSTANCE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T FUND INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEY FUND THE FUND STUFF LIKE THE, THE, THE ACTUAL RECREATION FEATURES.
AND SO IF, IF YOU'RE PLANNING A BUDGET FOR SOME GRANT IN THE FUTURE, YOU NEED TO, UH, HAVE THE CITY'S MONEY AVAILABLE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE APPROPRIATE TO MEET THE, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW PAVEMENT OR, UM, ANY OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT, UM, THAT AREN'T GONNA BE FUNDED BY A GRANT.
JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
NEXT CONCEPT, UH, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE FRONT PAGE, PRIMROSE PARK.
UM, AT THE TIME OF, UM, THIS CREATING THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO, TO GO INTO THIS PROCESS, WE WEREN'T SURE IF THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN OR NOT, BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT THE CITY WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE FOUR ACRES, UM, ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PRIMROSE PARK, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME GAPS IN, UM, RECREATION THAT STILL NEEDED TO BE FILLED THERE.
UM, THE OPPORTUNITY HERE IS TO, UM, ADD EVEN MORE, UH, BALL SPORTS, UM, CREATING ANOTHER SOFTBALL FIELD AND A POTENTIAL T-BALL FIELD.
NOW, THIS COULD BE SOFTBALL, THIS COULD BE ALSO T-BALL IF YOU WANT THE LARGER FIELD.
WE EXPANDED AS MUCH AS WE COULD WITHOUT ENCROACHING UPON THE, UH, THE ALREADY DESIGNED COMPONENT OF, UM, WITH PHASE THREE, I GUESS, OF, UM, OF PRIMROSE.
UM, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SQUEEZE IN THAT FIELD AT A, UM, I THINK THAT'S A A HUNDRED, THAT ONE'S A 200 FOOT FIELD.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT 165 FOOT T-BALL FIELD THERE, WHICH
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IS, UM, PLENTY BIG FOR UM, T-BALL.AND, UM, WE'VE GOT TRAIL, UM, CONNECTIONS, UM, THAT LINK UP TO THE TRAILS PLANNED OUT IN THE, UM, PHASE THREE DESIGN.
AND THEN WE BROUGHT IN BASKETBALL COURTS BECAUSE, UM, AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT PLAN THAT, UM, THERE'S NO BASKETBALL BEING PROPOSED ANYMORE AT IRENE STERN.
SO THAT'S GONNA GO ALL IN ON, UH, COURTS, OTHER COURT SPORTS, UM, TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL, SO BRINGING IN BASKETBALL COURTS HERE AS A FOURPLEX.
UM, PLENTY OF ADDITIONAL PARKING, WHICH WILL ALSO SERVE YOUR EVENT NEEDS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THAT AMPHITHEATER THERE.
AND, UM, THERE'S, THAT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH PARKING DOWN THERE ON THE AMPHITHEATER SIDE TO MEET ALL OF THAT.
SO PROBABLY WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE EVENTS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE PARKING AT THE BALL COMPLEX AND AT, UM, THE SOUTHERN, UM, PARKING AREAS, UH, WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU MIGHT CONSIDER IN TERMS OF PROGRAMMING, UM, SCHEDULING GAMES AND, YOU KNOW, SPORTING EVENTS, UM, ON DAYS THAT DON'T INVOLVE, UM, LARGE, UM, GATHERINGS FOR, UH, COMMUNITY WIDE, SUCH AS YOUR 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, UH, YOU SEE THAT KIND OF THE CENTERPIECE HERE IS A ACCESSIBLE RESTROOM SLASH CONCESSION STAND WITH A LITTLE SEATING AREA.
IT'S GOT, IT'S GOT LITTLE, UM, PICNIC TABLES AND THEN, UM, A COMBO RESTROOM CONCESSION.
AND THEN, UM, TO THE SOUTH OF THAT YOU'VE GOT A ARTIFICIAL TURF EVENT LAWN, REALLY MORE OF A PLAY SPACE, IF YOU WILL.
UM, WE LOOKED AT BOTH ORIENTATIONS.
WERE POTENTIALLY PUTTING THE PICNIC AND STUFF ON THE SOUTH SIDE THERE, SO YOU COULD BE WATCHING YOUR CHILD, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, PLAYING ON THE LAWN AND GRASSY AREA THERE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO POTENTIAL, YOU COULD PUT A PLAY STRUCTURE IN THERE, UM, IN THE FUTURE.
BUT IN THIS CONCEPT WE LEFT IT LIKE IT WAS.
AND THEN HAVING, UM, A SMALL SHADE STRUCTURE WITH PICNIC TABLES DOWN ON THE SOUTHERNMOST PORTION OF THAT.
AND THE, THE TRAIL, THIS NUMBER 14, THE NATURAL TRAIL WILL CONNECT TO THE EXISTING TRAIL.
YES, THAT WILL CONNECT ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, THE, THE TRAIL THAT GOES AROUND THE DETENTION POND THERE, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE DETENTION AND CURVES BACK AROUND TOWARDS, UM, I THINK THOSE ORIGINALLY WERE WILDLY MEADOWS IN PHASE THREE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLING THOSE, THOSE LARGE OPEN LAWN AREAS NOW.
UM, NORTH, JUST NORTH OF THE AMPHITHEATER.
I FORGET WHAT THE, I GUESS THOSE ARE JUST GONNA BE FORMAL GRASS LAWNS IN THERE NOW.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO IT DOES CONNECT TO THE TRAILS THAT ARE ALREADY DESIGNED IN YOUR PHASE THREE DESIGN.
AND CAN WE, ON THOSE NATURAL TRAILS, CAN WE NOT PUT IN BERMUDA GRASS? THEY PUT BERMUDA GRASS IN THE NATURE TRAIL, THEY DUG UP ALL THE NATIVE GRASSES AND PUT IN BERMUDA.
WE JUST NEED TO BE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GETTING INTO THE WEEDS WITH YOU, BUT WELL, IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE, THERE'S TWO, TWO WORLDS OF PARK USERS, THOSE THAT WANT MORE MAINTAINED, UM, UNIFORM LOOK.
AND THEN THERE'S THOSE THAT WANT THE NATIVE.
AND I THINK IT CAN ACCOMPLISH BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.
AND LIKE, SO DURING, WHEN YOU GET INTO DESIGN, SELECTIVELY PUT AREAS WHERE YOU MIGHT, WE'RE GONNA, MAYBE WE HAVE AN AREA WHERE WE ONLY MOW THE FIRST THREE FEET ON EACH SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK, UH, TO, TO GIVE IT A MAINTAIN FIELD FOOD WILL KILL ALL THE NATIVES.
AND, AND THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS YOU GO INTO DESIGN WHEN WE START PICKING OUT THE FINISHES AND STUFF.
UM, UM, THAT I JUST SAW IT HAPPEN ON OUR LAST NATIVE NA NATURE TRAIL.
THEY PUT DOWN CONCRETE AND A BUNCH OF BERMUDA GRASS AND, SORRY, THAT'S NOT NATIVE NATURE TRAIL.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE, ALL THESE CON CONCEPTS AND EVERYTHING ARE GONNA GO INTO THE, AN UPDATED VERSION OF THE MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT WHERE ANY NEW STUFF THAT WE'RE ADDING, UM, WILL, UM, INCLUDE COMMENTS IN THE PUBLIC INPUT WE'VE GOT AND, UM, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDER INPUT AND JUST SO THAT IT'S A MATTER OF RECORD AS Y'ALL MOVE FORWARD.
WELL, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY AROUND THE BALL FIELDS AND ALL THAT, PEOPLE EXPECT THAT, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT ON A NATURE TRAIL, YOU WANNA SEE NATURE.
AND YOU'VE SEEN, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL SEEN THIS OR NOT, BUT IN, DOWN IN HOUSTON, UH, WHAT THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF IS, UM, THEY JUST QUIT MAINTAINING SOME OF THOSE AREAS.
AND THEY'LL PUT UP A SIGN THAT SAYS WILD, WILD FLOWER RESTORATION AREA.
BAM, PROBLEM SOLVED TWO, PROBLEM SOLVED.
YOU GOT RID OF SOME, UH, MAINTENANCE COSTS AND YOU, UM, YOU BROUGHT BACK SOME, SOME WILD SPACES.
WELL, AND WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY BEAUTIFUL, BEFORE THEY TEAR EVERYTHING UP OUT HERE, WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY BEAUTIFUL NATIVE FLORA AND FAUNA MM-HMM
WE'VE STILL GOT SOME OF YOUR PHOTOS IN THE MASTER PLAN BACK FROM OH YEAH.
AND SO TO THE, THE LAST FUN STUFF, THE, OKAY, YOUR OVERALL COST, UH, ESTIMATE FOR, UM, PRIMROSE PARK, UM, IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS PHASE OF THE FOUR ACRES, UM, IS BETWEEN 4.5 AND $5.5 MILLION.
UM, PAVEMENT, PAVEMENT BEING ONE OF THE LARGEST, UM, EXPENSES IN THERE.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS ALL IN, UH, WITH YOUR, EVERYTHING FROM YOUR, YOUR SITE WORK, YOUR LIGHTING,
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UM, ANY DEMOLITION, THERE'S NOT MUCH OUT THERE IN TERMS OF DEMOLITION, UM, PAYMENT STRUCTURES, YOU NAME IT, UH, CONTINGENCIES AND CONTRACTOR MARKUP AND AN ALLOWANCE FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LIKE GEOTECHNICAL SURVEYS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PERMITTING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.AND HAVE WE CONSIDERED PERMEABLE PAVERS? WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T, UM, CONSIDERED THEM IN THIS COST ESTIMATE, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION.
UM, PERMEABLE PAVING IS STARTING TO COME DOWN.
IT'S STILL NOT CHEAP IN TERMS OF, UM, LIKE PARKING LOT SIZE, UM, BUT IT CAN DEFINITELY BE AN OPTION FOR PATHWAYS.
UM, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS YOU, AS YOU, AS YOU GO INTO DESIGN OF THESE FEATURES, THAT'S WHEN YOU START DOING, OKAY, WELL LET'S GO AHEAD AND TRADE OFF.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE COST OF THAT PAVEMENT IF WE WENT PERMEABLE? UM, IT CAN BE A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL SAVINGS, UM, BUT IT IS GONNA COST MORE ON THE FRONT END.
AND WHAT ABOUT, I SAW, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T THINK IT WAS AI, THE CONCRETE THAT ABSORBS WATER.
YEAH, WELL IT JUST FLOWS RIGHT THROUGH IT.
SO THEY, IT'S, THEY BUILD THIS WITH A, THERE'S A VARIETY OF PRODUCTS OUT THERE, BUT IT'S A POLYMER OF AN AGGREGATE.
IT CAN BE USUALLY SOME FORM OF ROCK OR SHALE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, UM, BASICALLY AN EPOXY OF SORTS AND IT, BUT THEY'RE LAR THE, THE, THE STRUCTURE OF THOSE ROCKS IS SUCH THAT THEY CAN'T EVER LIKE SEAL UP.
IT'S KINDA LIKE THAT EXPERIMENT YOU DID IN JUNIOR HIGH WHEN THEY PUT BIG ROCKS IN THERE AND YOU FILL IT UP WITH WATER AND THERE'S ALL THIS WATER.
BUT IF YOU PUT LITTLE ROCKS, THEN YOU DON'T GET NEAR AS MUCH WATER IN THERE.
SAME CONCEPT WITH PERMEABLE PAVING.
UM, THEY'VE GOT TESTED WHERE THEY CAN PUT A FIRE HOSE ON IT AND THE WATER'S GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH ON SOME OF THOSE.
SEE THAT'S THE VIDEO I SAW, I THINK.
WAS IT EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE I GUESS? PRETTY MUCH, YEAH.
UM, I MEAN THERE'S A NEWER PRODUCTS COMING OUT EVERY DAY IT SEEMS, BUT THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BE AS MUCH AS TWICE AS EXPENSIVE FOR, UH, COMPARED TO CONCRETE.
CONCRETE'S NOT CHEAP RIGHT NOW, UH, BECAUSE SAND ISN'T CHEAP PRIMARILY.
SO ALL THE SAND HAS COME FROM BANK SAND ALONG THESE RIVER BOTTOMS IN OUR REGION.
AND UM, THAT LAND IS GETTING DEVELOPED SO IT'S NOT GETTING, THERE'S NOT AS MANY BORROW PITS AND SO PRICE GOES UP AND, AND THEN INFLATION IN GENERAL.
SO, BUT, UM, SOME OF THESE PRODUCTS AND SOME OF THE, THE NEEDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, THE SITE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, YOU'VE GOT A CHALLENGING SITE WHERE YOU HAVE TO GET THAT DETENTION, UM, POND SMALLER OR ELIMINATE DETENTION PONDS ALTOGETHER EVENTUALLY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PRICE OF LAND GOING UP, IT'LL EVENTUALLY TRIGGER THE NEED FOR THOSE TYPE OF SOLUTIONS.
AND SO IT'S JUST HAVING THOSE IN YOUR BACK POCKET WHEN THE TIME COMES.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT LIGHTING, SO WOULD BOTH OF THE FIELDS AND THE BASKETBALL COURTS, WOULD THEY HAVE LIGHTING? I LEMME CHECK ON THE BASKETBALL COURTS.
COURT LIGHTING IS IN THERE, YES.
SIGHT LIGHTING, PARKING, LIGHTING.
NO, I DON'T, THESE DON'T HAVE LIGHTING ON THE T-BALL WAS SOFTBALL.
THAT IS AN OPTION TO CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD.
UM, T BALLS TYPICALLY NOT PLAYED AT NIGHT, BUT AS AN OPTION, UM, TO CONSIDER.
I THINK THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE LEFT IT OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR COST CONSIDERATION.
DID YOU SAY THIS ESTIMATED COST WAS CONSTRUCTION ONLY OR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION? THIS ONE SAID FOUR A HALF.
YOU SHOULD HAVE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN THERE.
YEAH, SO WE'VE GOT 12 AND 12.75% WILL COVER YOUR, YOUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FOR DESIGN IS TYPICALLY GONNA BE DEPENDING ON, UM, WHO YOU ASK BETWEEN SEVEN AND 8% ON AVERAGE.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT GEOTECHNICALS, UM, WHICH YOU KNOW, AND SURVEY, WHICH IS, UM, NOMINAL COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING.
AND GEOTECH IS GONNA VARY DEPENDING ON HOW MANY THINGS YOU NEED TO TEST FOR.
IN THIS CASE IT'S YOUR PARKING SLAB, YOUR PARKING LOT AND LIKE FOUR, FOUR BORES THERE AND THE SLAB UNDERNEATH THE, UM, THE CONCESSION SLASH RESTROOM STANDING THEN UNDER THAT PAVILION, THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE AREAS THAT ARE GONNA PROBABLY, AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE SITE LIGHTING FOR IF YOU'VE GOT FIELD SPORTS, FIELD LIGHTING.
SO, UM, BUT IT'S A LOT CHEAPER THAN WHAT IT COSTS FOR THE WHOLE PRIMROSE PART, UM, AS A WHOLE.
SO IRENE STERN EVER EVOLVING, UH, WITH THE CONCEPTS ON THIS ONE.
UM, THIS TIME AROUND, UH, BASED ON DECISIONS MADE, UH, AT PRIMROSES PARK AS TO GO ALL IN WAS SPORTS COURTS.
UH, THERE WAS CONSIDERATION, UM, AND DISCUSSION ABOUT SPLITTING IT UP AND HAVING SOME AT PRIMROSE AND SOME OVER HERE AT IRENE STERN, BUT ULTIMATELY IT MADE MORE SENSE TO PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER SO YOU COULD HAVE EVENTS IF, IF YOU'D LIKE.
UM, SO YOU CAN, UM, SERVE THOSE NEEDS IN ONE SPOT.
AND, UM, AND, AND GIVEN THE SPACE AVAILABLE AT PRIMROSE FOR WHAT WE WANTED TO DO THERE, UM, IT JUST MADE SENSE TO PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER HERE.
UH, WITH THE EXPANDED ACRE AND A HALF THAT WAS ACQUIRED TWO YEARS AGO, UM, THIS OPPORTUNITY HAS COME ABOUT.
SO IN THIS CONCEPT, UM, NOTHING'S HAPPENING TO THE COMMUNITY
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CENTER IN THIS CONCEPT.IT'S STAYING THE SAME, UM, LONG TERM THAT CAN BE, BE RETROFITTED INTO A VARIETY OF RECREATION, UM, OPPORTUNITIES.
IT'S TOO SMALL TO BE A REC CENTER IN THE PROPER SENSE, BUT YOU COULD FIT IT OUT WITH FITNESS EQUIPMENT OR THIS AND THAT.
BUT IS YOUR, ONE OF YOUR FEW MEETING SPACES AVAILABLE? SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE A, A PLACE THAT'S STILL TO THIS DAY BEING USED FOR ALL KINDS OF PER FAMILY EVENTS AND UM, AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.
SO, UM, GOOD TO HAVE THAT, UM, IN YOUR COFFERS.
UM, REDOING THE PLAYGROUNDS WAS A, UM, A BIG ITEM ON THE LIST HERE AND UM, KIND OF CONSOLIDATING SOME OF THOSE SO THAT IT'S NOT ALL JUST KIND OF SCATTERED AROUND INDIVIDUAL LITTLE PODS.
UM, AND, AND THIS CONCEPT, I DON'T ONLY, IS DAVID'S HERE, DAVID, IS THAT POURED IN PLACE OR IS THAT, UM, NO, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S A MULCH, UM, FALL SURFACE AND THAT ONE, UM, A VARIETY OF, UM, PLAGUE EQUIPMENT PIECES IN THE LAST, UM, CONCEPT THAT WE DID FOR THIS.
THEY WERE MORE OF A NATURE BASED THEME TO THE PLAY EQUIPMENT.
SO IT WASN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, PRIMARY COLORED, BRIGHT PLASTIC LOOKING, UM, THING, SOMETHING THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE SUBDUED.
UM, AND THAT COULD STILL BE THE CASE.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO PICK THE EQUIPMENT DURING THE CONCEPTUAL PHASE, BUT UM, THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEAS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE, UM, NATURAL LOOKING.
UM, RE THE EXISTING RESTROOM STAYS, UH, THE SAME IN HERE IN THE POLLINATOR GARDEN.
WELL, IT GETS SPRUCED UP AND THEN, UM, WE'VE GOT A PROPOSED, UM, NEW STORAGE BUILDING, GETTING RID OF THE OLD LONG SKINNY STORAGE BUILDING THAT'S EXISTING RIGHT THERE 'CAUSE IT'S IN THE WAY OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO HERE.
UH, AND PUTTING A SMALL ONE IN THERE.
SO YOU STILL HAVE MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE, SO YOU STILL DON'T HAVE TO TRUCK, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRUCK IT IN FROM, UH, OFFSITE, UM, TO DO THE MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON SITE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, A SMALL SHADE STRUCTURE IN BETWEEN THE PICKLEBALL AND THE, UM, TENNIS COURTS HERE.
WE'VE GOT SIX TENNIS COURTS AND EIGHT, UM, PICKLEBALL COURTS SHOWN IN HERE.
SO YOU'VE GOT, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZE, UM, COURT MIX RIGHT THERE.
UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT TRYING TO SOMEHOW CREATE LIKE A FOOD SERVICE TYPE MEETING ROOM SPACE, BUT YOU JUST, IT'S REALLY TIGHT FIT TO GET IT IN THERE IN THIS AMOUNT OF SPACE.
AND UM, YOU MIGHT BE BETTER OFF FOR AN EVENT, LIKE IF YOU DO HAVE AN EVENT THAT NEEDS FOOD SERVICE, UM, JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND TURNING THAT TO KIND OF LIKE A TEMPORARY CONCESSIONS FOR, UM, SAY A, A TENNIS OR PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT THERE WAS A FULL KITCHEN IN THE STERN BEFORE IT WAS TURNED INTO OFFICES THAT WERE NEVER USED.
MAYBE WE COULD RE YEAH, YOU COULD BUST OUT THAT BACK WALL AND, AND CREATE EXTERNAL SERVICE.
I MEAN, THERE'S ROOM, IT WAS THERE BEFORE.
IT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, THE, THOSE OFFICES ARE NOT GONNA BE USED AS MUCH AS THEY WERE IN THE PAST.
ONCE THEY'RE NOT AT ALL, COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, EXECUTIVE SE OR THEIR MEETINGS EXECUTIVE SESSION INSIDE THERE.
UM, BUT UM, YEAH, IT'S STILL AN OPTION.
UM, IT WOULDN'T AFFECT HOW YOU USE THE REST OF THE SITE WOULD JUST, UM, ENHANCE IT.
UM, YOU MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES OUT AND THAT'S ABOUT IT IN THAT, UM, SCENARIO.
UM, ALSO HERE WE HAVE, UH, MORE, UH, PICNIC AREAS IN A SMALL SHADE STRUCTURE, UM, ON THE, I GUESS YOU'D CALL IT THE SOUTHWEST SIDE AND THEN, UM, AND ANOTHER LITTLE POLLINATOR GARDEN AND THEN A SMALL COMMUNITY GARDEN SPACE.
I THINK THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AND I SEE THIS IN COMMUNITIES A LOT OF TIMES IS, AND Y'ALL HAVE DONE WELL WITH YOUR POLLINATOR GARDEN, YOU GET INTO COMMUNITY GARDENS, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY GONNA HAVE MORE VEGETABLE TYPE THINGS, IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE A DEDICATED, UM, TEAM ORGANIZATION THAT WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY, WE'VE HAD THEM IN THE PAST.
THEY JUST TORE THEM OUT WHEN THEY TORE DOWN THE OLD CITY HALL AND BUILT THIS ONE.
IT WAS, UM, RIGHT OUTSIDE THERE.
AND UM, SO YEAH, HAVING THAT IN PLACE WILL MAKE A, A HUGE DIFFERENCE ON THE SUCCESS OF THOSE LONG TERM.
UM, BUT, BUT I THINK THEY ALSO NEED, THEY'LL NOT BE ALL FENCED OFF IN, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC.
'CAUSE LIKE I WE'RE WORKING IN, IN WE RICHMOND RIGHT NOW AND THEY'VE GOT A COMMUNITY GARDEN'S BIG AND BEAUTIFUL BUT IS GATED AND IT FEELS LIKE IT, YOU CAN'T REALLY GO ENJOY IT IF YOU'RE JUST AN AVERAGE CITIZEN, YOU KNOW, SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO GO TAKE THINGS
YEAH, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT
SO, UM, ESTIMATED COST FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS IS BETWEEN 3.7 AND 4.5 MILLION ALL IN.
UM, THIS IS, UM, ONE THAT CAN BE FACED QUITE EASILY.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, MAJOR CHALLENGES OTHER THAN, UM, STORM WATER AND THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY TO ADDRESS THAT OTHER THAN COME UP WITH SOME, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU POSSIBLY, SOME, SOME REGIONAL DETENTION THAT YOU COULD PIPE INTO.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT AS A NON-ENGINEER.
UM, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS STILL ON THE TABLE IS HOW DO YOU MAKE THIS WORK FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT,
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BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF PAVEMENT WHEN YOU WITH THOSE COURTS.AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PERMEABLE PAVING IN WHEN IT COMES TO SPORTS COURTS 'CAUSE THE TEXTURE'S ALL WRONG.
UM, THESE ARE TYPICALLY PAINTED SURFACES.
I MEAN THEY GOT CLAY COURTS IN THE WIMBLEDON, BUT THOSE ARE ALSO, UM, NOT PERMEABLE EITHER.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S MADE OUTTA CLAY, IT'S PACKED, UM, SUPER HARD.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE OUTLIERS THAT STANDS BECAUSE THIS SITE IS TOO SMALL TO PUT ANY KIND OF DETENTION IN THERE.
AND, UM, SO LONG TERM THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE AN ENGINEERING STUDY TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK OR IF THERE'S SOME REGIONAL ACCESS TO SOME DRAINAGE THAT CAN BE BE, UM, ADDRESSED.
AND, UH, OH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS THE POCKET PARKS.
THOSE, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE CONCEPTS FOR THOSE YET.
UH, WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO, UH, THREE POTENTIAL SITES.
UH, ONE IS, UH, A LAKEWOOD HILLS I THINK IS THE NAME OF THE ROAD.
UM, IT HAS A, UH, A SMALL PARK-LIKE AREA NEXT TO THE, UM, TO THE LIFT STATION, UM, WHERE THERE IS ACTUALLY THERE THERE AT ONE TIME THERE WAS A TRAIL THAT WENT BACK, UM, THROUGH THERE AND, AND THEN DOWN ALONG A, A SMALL EASEMENT, UM, OUT TO THE MAIN SIDEWALKS, UM, ALONG ONE OF THE OTHER ROADS.
UM, IT GOT WASHED OUT, IT WAS DECOMPOSED GRANITE PATHWAY AND UM, SO, AND IT'S ON HOA PROPERTY IN PART AND UM, RIGHT NOW IT JUST HAS A SIGN, SAYS TRAIL CLOSED PERMANENTLY, UM, DUE TO EROSION IS THATUM CREEK.
WAS THAT LAKE? LAKE HILL FARM.
LAKE HILL FARMS, THAT'S THE NAME OF IT.
AND SO, UM, BUT THERE IS A LITTLE, LITTLE BENCH IN LITTLE KIND OF A CONCRETE PLAZA AREA THERE, BUT THERE'S ALSO ENOUGH SPACE WHERE YOU COULD, YOU COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THAT LAND AND, AND, AND CREATE SOME, UM, EITHER CREATE A NEW PATHWAY OR UM, JUST CREATE A SMALL PLAY STRUCTURE AREA IN THERE.
IT'S ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, A LITTLE UNDER A QUARTER OF AN ACRE, UM, IN SIZE.
UM, THE SECOND ONE IS OVER, UM, AT RE TRACE AND THAT ONE IS A VERY SMALL SITE.
THE IDEA THERE IS POTENTIALLY PUT A MURAL ON THE SIDE OF THAT WALL THAT'S COVERING THE, THE LIFT STATION EQUIPMENT AND UM, DRESS THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.
UM, IT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY, UM, LARGE SITE, BUT JUST SOMETHING, JUST A WAY TO ADDRESS IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THE THIRD ONE, I CANNOT THINK OF THE NAME OF THE LIFT STATION OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
DO YOU HAVE IT NEAR MY HEAD BY ANY CHANCE? UM, NO, I, I'LL I'LL GET THAT BACK TO Y'ALL ON THE SUBSEQUENT ONE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, THE NAME OF IT, UM, ELUDES ME THE NAME OF THE STREET THAT IT'S ON.
BUT THAT ONE, UH, WE HAVE POTENTIAL TO WORK WITH, UM, THE EXISTING HOA PROPERTY THERE TO POTENTIALLY ADD SOME, UM, SOME JUST MORE FORMALIZED OPEN SPACE ON A, ON A WHERE, WHERE THEY HAVE A DRILL SITE THAT'S NOT PLANNED TO BE DRILLED.
UH, THE COMMUNITY IS ALREADY ADDED A NEW SWIMMING POOL THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
AND THIS WILL BE A WAY TO KIND OF COMPLIMENT THAT WITH SOME OPEN SPACE WHERE SOMEBODY COULD HAVE A PICKUP GAME OF FOOTBALL ON THANKSGIVING DAY OR WHATEVER.
AND UM, AND SOME SEATING AREAS ON, UM, AND UH, PATHWAY ALONG THE CITY SIDE OF THE PROPERTY JUST TO KIND OF WORK TOGETHER WITH THE HOA TO MAKE A, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A RECREATION SPACE OUTTA THAT CORNER.
WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT? WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD IS CREEK? UH, SUGARBERRY CREEK.
SUGARBERRY CRESCENT, POSSIBLY.
IT'S UM, IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE AND TREE, I THINK RE AND SUGAR BERRY CRESCENT.
YEAH, THEY'RE LIKE, THEY'RE LIKE 500 YARDS AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.
THESE THESE TWO, UM, PARK SUGARBERRY REGIONAL LIFT STATION I THINK.
AND UM, AND THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF RECREATION IN THOSE AREAS ANYWAYS, VALLEY TRACE, THAT'S THE NAME OF IT.
AND SO, UM, THAT, THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE THAT THE, THE THE DRILL SITE, UM, LOCATION, THE, UM, HOA SAID THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN ANYTHING THAT WOULD, UH, CAUSE UM, EXCESS TRAFFIC.
SO THEY DON'T WANT LIKE A PROPER SPORTS FIELD NECESSARILY OR ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA CREATE A PARKING SITUATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT UM, BUT JUST, JUST MAKING IT KNOWN THAT THAT SPACE IS ACCESSIBLE WITH A PATHWAY CAN GO A LONG WAYS TO LET PEOPLE, BECAUSE PEOPLE WANNA FLAG KIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK LIKE THE LITTLE COMMUNITY, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND CROSS CREEK, THERE'RE LITTLE POCKET PARKS YEAH, PARKS BUT DOESN'T CAUSE TRAFFIC.
AND THERE'S LESS OF THAT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF, UM, SHORE THAN THERE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SHORE.
SO, 'CAUSE UM, OLDER COMMUNITIES JUST DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF THE, THE PRODUCT IN, UM, THERE LIKE CROSS CREEK AND JORDAN RANCH AND ALL THAT.
THEY, THEY COME WITH EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FILL IN THE GAPS HERE AND, AND SO WE'RE GONNA, UM, START UM, TYING UP ALL THIS INTO THAT UH, UPDATED DRAFT DOCUMENT WHICH WE WILL BE PROVIDING TO Y'ALL ONCE IT IS COMPLETE FOR YOUR REVIEW.
AND UM, ALONG WITH THOSE, UM, THOSE THREE POCKET PARK CONCEPTS AS SOON AS THEY'RE AVAILABLE IN THE COMING WEEKS AND GO FROM THERE.
UM, FIRST THANK YOU, THE VELODROME AND, OR I GUESS NOT A VELODROME BUT A VELO TRACK AND THEN THE NUMBER 18, THE,
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UH, ALTERNATIVE BIKE ROUTE WITH TERRAIN.IS THAT BASICALLY LIKE A BUMP TRACK, LIKE A, LIKE LIKE MEMORIAL PARK? LIKE NOT QUITE SO EXTREME, UH, BUT SOME INTERESTING TOPO BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, THE PUMP TRACKS ARE TYPICALLY, THEY'RE MORE ATHLETIC, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, BUT JUST ADDING SOME INTERESTING TERRAIN, UH, A LITTLE MORE MOUNTAIN ISH THAN JUST, UM, FLAT UM, TRAILS.
WE'D GET THE OFF ROAD AND THE ROAD.
AND AND THEY'RE THEY'RE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT USERS.
UM, YOUR ROAD BIKERS ARE, UM, COMPANY, UM, I MEAN THEY JUST, THEY HAVE A, THEY, THEIR BIKES ARE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY RIDE DIFFERENTLY.
SO HAVING SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE THERE AND UM, AND I THINK ALL THE UM, THE NATURAL TRAILS WOULD BE, UM, AMENABLE TO UM, YOU KNOW, MOUNTAIN BIKE USE AS WELL.
SO THAT EXTENDS THE RANGE QUITE A BIT.
AND SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE IF THE UM, ALMOND DECIDES THEY WANT TO CONNECT A PROPOSED FUTURE COUNTY PARK WAY OVER ON THE EAST SIDE TO UM, THIS PARK, THERE'S AN OPTION THERE TOO.
'CAUSE THEY'RE STILL GONNA OWN THE REMAINING AGRICULTURAL LAND IN THE LONG TERM ANYWAYS.
AND SO, UM, WE HIGHLIGHTED THAT AS A, A POTENTIAL OPTION, UM, LONG TERM BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT RIVERFRONT ALONG THERE THAT, UM, COULD BE REALLY COOL.
I LOVE THAT THEY'RE KEEPING THE CATTLE AND KEEPING SOME OF OUR HERITAGE THERE.
YEAH, WELL AND YOU KNOW, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THIS, THIS SITE RIGHT HERE, AND I, I HAVE, I'LL SEND Y'ALL THE, UM, I CAME UP WITH A LIST OF POTENTIAL NAMES FOR THIS PARK BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CALLING IT AMRA 'CAUSE DEVELOPER ADMITTED THEY MADE THAT NAME UP
AND, AND SO, BUT THIS PARCEL THAT, UM, THAT THE MAIN COMPONENT OF THE PARKS ON IS, UH, ONE OF THE, THE, UH, LAND SURVEYS FROM THE, THE OLD 300, THE ORIGINAL LAND SURVEYS FROM STEPHEN F. AUSTIN.
SO, UM, SOME, MAYBE SOME KIND OF A THEME BASED ON THAT.
UM, ALSO THE PARCEL TO THE WEST OF THAT IS THE ORIGINAL, UM, CHURCHILL RE PARCEL.
SO, UM, THAT WAS A, AN ORIGINAL, UH, OLD 300 LAND SURVEY TOO.
SO THAT'S FONDER NOW, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S FONDER OWNED NOW, BUT UM, BUT THAT, THAT, THAT WAS CHER'S ORIGINAL LAND AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT ONE WAS 11,000 ACRES ORIGINALLY, BUT UM, SO MAYBE TYING SOME OF THAT HISTORY IN THERE WOULD BE KIND OF COOL, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO NAMING IT.
WE'VE GOT A LOT TO LOOK FORWARD TO.
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E MURAL AT PRIMROSE PARK PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF ART SUBMISSIONS FOR THE MURAL AT PRIMROSE PARK ON THE CONCESSION SPRAY SKATE.ALRIGHT, I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP BUT MY COMPUTER IS HAVING A MOMENT, SO ONE SECOND.
SO WE RECEIVED 10 DIFFERENT ART SUBMISSIONS AND, UM, STAFF ALONGSIDE THE FOUNDER OF THE SOCIAL ARTS ALLIANCE, EVANGELINE.
WE, UM, GRADED ALL OF THEM AS A GROUP AND WE HAVE THREE FINALISTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU.
UM, SO I HAVE, UM, SOME OF THEM HAVE NAMES FOR THEIR, THEIR RENDERINGS, UM, AND WE'RE ALSO SHOWING SOME OF THEIR PREVIOUS WORK.
SO YOU KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
UM, FOR REFERENCE, UM, THE THREE FINALISTS ARE ANNA MARIA ORTEZ, E FULL ART MURALS AND DESIGNS, AND MICHELLE DESIGNS XLC, UM, TWO OUT OF THE THREE GOT 25 OUTTA 25 POINTS ON OUR GRADING SCALE AND ONE GOT 24.5.
SO ALL WERE REALLY, ALL THOSE SUBMISSIONS WERE GREAT.
UM, THE, WE, WE FELT THAT THESE PIECES WERE VERY REFLECTIVE OF CHER AND WHAT THE PARK IS, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SHOW YOU THEM.
SO THIS IS ANNA MARIA ORTIZ'S PREVIOUS WORK.
UM, SHE HAS A LOT OF BIRDS AND FISH AND OTHER ANIMALS THAT SHE TYPICALLY PUTS ON DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.
UM, THESE ARE SOME OF HER LARGER PIECES, BUT SHE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED LOTS OF PICTURES TO US OF THINGS SHE'S DONE IN THE PAST.
SO THIS IS SOME OF HER PREVIOUS WORK, HER CONCEPT, SHE'S CALLING IT HARMONIOUS GAME.
UM, AND SHE HAD LIKE LOTS OF SYMBOLISM GOING ON IN HER PIECE.
UM, SO SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE SUN OR THE SPHERE OF PLAY.
UM, SHE HAS TWO BIRDS, A BLUE JAY AND A SCISSOR TAILED FLY CATCHER, SO THEY'RE COMPETITORS.
AND THEN, UM, A FIELD OF FLORA, SO BLUE BONNETS AND BLUE, UH, BLACK-EYED SUSANS.
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SO SHE ACTUALLY OFFERED THREE OPTIONS, BUT WE CHOSE WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE BEST OPTION OUT OF THE THREE, UM, AS A GROUP.SO THIS IS HER RENDERING AND I'LL ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER.
SO, AND SHE WAS ABLE TO RENDER IT ON THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT THIS ONE CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN NEXT WE HAVE E FULL ART.
UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY SOME OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE IN SHORE.
AND SO, UM, I BELIEVE THIS IS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL OVER HERE.
UM, AND AGAIN, LARGE SCALE IN TERMS OF THEIR MURALIST, UM, ART.
UM, THIS ONE THEY'RE CALLING IT WHERE THE PRAIRIE MEETS THE BRASS AND THEY DID NOTATE IN THIS RENDERING THAT THERE WOULD BE COLOR ADDED TO THIS.
THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY, UM, RENDERING FOR THIS.
OKAY, THE LAST ONE IS MICHELLE DESIGNS.
UH, THIS IS A MURAL SHE DID BACK IN JUNE OF 2025.
UM, SHE DID NOT HAVE A NAME FOR THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, BUT SHE REALLY WANTED TO LEAN INTO THE PRIMROSE PARK.
AND SO SHE HAS CHOSEN, UM, PINK PRIMROSES.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A RENDERING, UM, BUT SHE HAS VARIOUS FLOWERS AND THEN, UM, MONARCH BUTTERFLIES AND THEN A BASEBALL PEEKING THROUGH THE FLOWERS.
SO WE'RE WELCOME TO DISCUSS THESE THREE ARTISTS AND SEE HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THEM.
AND IF DESIRED, WE CAN MAKE A VOTE TO CHOOSE A FINALIST.
WELL, YOU KNOW ME AND I LOVE THE ME AND THE WILDFLOWERS, BUT THOSE BIRDS ARE GORGEOUS.
YEAH, THEY'RE, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL BEAUTIFUL.
YEAH, THE HORSES, I WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERED CHARGERS, BUT THEN WE HAVE KIDS COMING FROM OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS THAT ARE CHARGERS,
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE BIRD ONE? I THINK THE BIRD ONE'S REALLY COOL.
THEY'RE LOCAL, THEY'RE NATIVE BIRDS.
SHE'S GOT THE, THE FLOWERS IN THERE.
SO THE ONLY REASON I'M LEANING TOWARDS THREE IS BECAUSE IT HAD THE BASEBALL BUILT IN AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS JUST KIND OF A FUN THING SINCE IT'S AT A BASEBALL FIELD.
BUT IT'S THE BATHROOM FOR THE WHOLE PARK.
I, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST REALLY LIKE THE BIRDS TOO.
YEAH, THE BIRDS ARE REALLY CATCHING MY EYE.
THERE'S ONLY ONE WITH THE
SO THERE'S NO OTHER INCORPORATION PRIMROSE EXCEPT ONE.
ARE WE LOVE TO ADD TO THEIR CONCEPTS.
I MEAN LIKE, LIKE I LOVE THE BIRDS, BUT IF WE COULD ADD A BASEBALL AND MAYBE SOME MORE PINK PRIMROSE, I THINK THAT WOULD LOOK DYNAMIC.
RIGHT? WE CAN DEFINITELY ALWAYS REQUEST AND SEE.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY ARTIST IS GONNA WANT TO PRESENT SOMETHING SPECIFIC.
I MEAN, IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO PUSH IT, YOU COULD TURN THE SUN INTO A BASEBALL
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THE DESIGN.
I FEEL LIKE SHE WOULD BE QUITE OFFENDED.
BASEBALL COMING THROUGH THE SKY, BUT THEN THEY WIN THOUGH, RIGHT? THAT'S LIKE GOOD IF THEY CHANGE IT.
BUT IN THE WHOLE CONCEPT, THE, THE UM, COMPETITION BETWEEN THE BIRDS AND THE COMPETITION OF THE BASEBALL FIELD, IT'S GREAT.
CAN I ASK WHAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL USED TO JUDGE TO GRADE THEM ON COURSE? COURSE? I MEAN Y'ALL JUST HAVE LIKE A PARTICULAR SCALE OR SOMETHING? YEAH, WE UH, WE HAD FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND IT WAS A SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS ARTIST QUALITY, RELEVANCE TO THE COMMUNITY OVERALL CONCEPT.
UM, WHAT DID WE CALL IT, LIKE EXPERIENCE OVERALL FROM OTHER PROJECTS.
AND I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT THE LAST ONE IS RIGHT NOW, BUT ALL OF THEM WERE ONE OUT OF FIVE POINTS.
UM, AND WE FELT LIKE ALL OF THESE HAD ALL THOSE FOR THE MOST PART.
YEAH, THEY'RE ALL GORGEOUS AND HONESTLY IT WAS REALLY HARD TO NARROW IT DOWN.
SO WHAT HAPPENS NOW? DO WE VOTE ON OR WE CHOOSE ONE OF THE THREE AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE? OR YEAH, ESSENTIALLY, UM, YOU CAN VOTE ON THE ONE THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND WE'LL CONTACT THE ARTISTS AND KIND OF GET THAT BALL ROLLING.
WHAT ARE WE THINKING? I LIKE TWO.
SO IT HIT ME WITH 1, 2, 3 AGAIN.
THIS WAS, TAKE THE ONE WITH THE HORSES.
I MEAN THEY DIDN'T HAVE A COLOR OPTION, SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE THE COLOR.
AND WE COULD ALSO SAY LIKE, PLEASE DON'T USE CHARGER COLORS FOR THE HORSES TOO.
THAT'S A POTENTIAL OPTION SINCE COLORS HAVEN'T BEEN SELECTED FOR THIS.
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I GUESS I THINK MY OPINION ALSO TOO, JUST FOR WHAT IT IS, MY THOUGHTS WERE LIKE, THIS IS MS. CORNELIUS'S BACKYARD AND SHE'S GOT THIS, THESE FIELDS THAT SHE WANTED AND MORE FLOWERS.I KNOW THE PRIMROSE IS THE NAME OF THE PARK AND THERE IS A SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET NAMED PRIMROSE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I JUST THOUGHT MORE FLOWERS AND MORE NATIVE PLANTS.
I DO LOVE THE BIRDS, I LOVE THE HORSES, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL ONE HAD WILDFLOWERS IN IT TOO.
I MEAN I DO THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
AND I THINK THAT KIND OF HITS THE HOME OF PRIMROSE PARK AND THE NATIVES AND THE, THE POLLINATORS AND THAT BASEBALL JUST REALLY DOES KIND OF STICK OUT 'CAUSE THAT IT DOES.
IT'S NOT THE OBVIOUS THING AND IT IS PUBLIC PARK.
AND THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE IN THE BASEBALL FIELDS.
WHILE THEY'RE THE ONLY THING THERE RIGHT NOW, THEY WILL NOT IN THE FUTURE BE THE ONLY THINGS THERE.
LIKE THAT'S THE HOME AND I LIKE THE SUBTLETY THAT THAT BASEBALL PLAYS THERE PLUS ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S THERE.
THAT ONE GETS MY, I LOVE THAT ONE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A MORE COMMON THEME THAT YOU KIND OF SEE EVERYWHERE AND YOU DON'T REALLY SEE THE OTHER, IT'S NOT AS INTERESTING AS THE BIRDS.
WE ARE GONNA HAVE AN AMPHITHEATER THAT I'M SURE IS GONNA HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? 15 YEARS AGO?
WE DID THE BATHROOM AT THE IRENE STERN.
WELL HOW DO WE, HOW DO YOU WANT TO, HOW DO WE VOTE? I I CAN JUST DO IT.
UM, LIKE 1, 2, 3 IN TERMS OF LIKE WHO WOULD LIKE ONE, WHO WOULD LIKE TWO? WHO WOULD LIKE THREE? OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WE CAN VOTE ON ALL.
WHAT IF WE VOTE THREE? DO ONE.
I KNOW WE DO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE, SO THEORETICALLY WE SHOULD HAVE WE WE COULD SPLIT IT.
I JUST REALLY LIKE THOSE BIRDS.
I'M WITH ONE AND LIKE RYAN SAID, WE'RE ALL GONNA BE SPLIT OVER HERE.
I'M NOT GONNA SOLVE ANYTHING TODAY.
WELL WE, IT'S JUST LIKE SO INTERESTING AND BEAUTIFUL AND HER TECHNIQUE IS EXCEPTIONAL TOO, I THINK.
AND I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF THE STORY AND I THINK LIKE THE BEING LIKE CLOSE, LIKE, I MEAN IT'S GONNA BE LIKE AMPHITHEATERS RIGHT THERE AND LIKE, I MEAN EVERYTHING.
THAT THE BEST WORD FOR IT COULD MENTION TO THE ARTIST IF SHE FELT IT TO ADD, ADD A PRIMROSE IN THERE, WORK HER PRIMROSE, YOU KNOW.
THE SEEING THOSE FIRST PICTURES FIRST, LIKE THAT ONE WAS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS, I WAS LIKE WOW, THOSE ARE IMPRESSIVE.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE THAT SHE HAS FOR US.
SO I LIKE ONE IF SHE ADDS, SHE COULD HIDE A LITTLE FORM OF LIKE THE DESCRIPTION.
I THINK THE DESCRIPTION HELPED THE STORY RIGHT? WHEN YOU KNEW THAT THE BIRDS ARE COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER.
AND WE COULD DEFINITELY, LIKE ONCE THIS ACTUALLY EXISTS IN REAL LIFE, I CAN HAVE INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE ABOUT IT TOO.
AND SO I CAN ADD STUFF LIKE THAT IN THERE.
PLAQUE, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
TELL THE STORY OF WHY THEY CHOSE THOSE BRANDS.
WELL AND MAYBE ASK HER TO HIDE A LITTLE BASEBALL IN THE FLOWERS IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
I LET, YEAH, I'M VOTING FOR DIVERT.
JASON AND RYAN, WHICH ONES WOULD YOU LIKE TO VOTE FOR? I'M EASILY SWAYED.
I'LL BE THE DIFFERENT, I LIKE THE ONE THAT I SAY THAT I LIKE THE ONE WITH LIKE THE MICHELLE'S DESIGN.
DON'T LOOK AT ME WHILE I THINK
UM, ARE ANY OF THEM LOCAL? LIKE ARE THERE ANY OF THEM? UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT I MIGHT BE DECIDING THE ONE FROM EEL ART THAT THEY ARE A FULL, THE MIDDLE ONE NATIVE.
AND DID YOU SAY ONE OF 'EM HAS DONE IT BEFORE OR ONE OF 'EM HAS DONE A MURAL FOR US BEFORE OR SOMETHING.
THAT WAS THERESA STALEY THAT DID THE STERN CENTER.
YOU BOTH FOR THE ONE YOU LIKE.
THAT'S WHY WE ALL, ALL OF OUR HOUSES DIFFERENT GUYS.
YEAH, WE ALL HAD DIFFERENT TASTES.
I THOUGHT LIKE COHESIVENESS WAS COOL.
LIKE HAVING, THAT'S IN THE SCHOOL AND THEN IT'S ON THIS AND IT'S THAT.
SO, UM, STAFF WILL REACH OUT TO ANNA AND WE WILL GET ROLLING ON THAT.
I, I THINK, UM, THERESA THAT PAINTED OUR, OUR BATHROOM AT THE STERN CENTER IS NOW A VERY EXPENSIVE ARTIST IN HOUSTON
WE'RE ALL FAIRLY HAPPY? YES, WE'RE ALL HAPPY.
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AND RECREATION BUDGET, FINANCIAL REPORT, DISCUSSION OF ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION HAS ABOUT ANY BUDGET ITEMS. I HAVE QUESTIONS OKAY, HERE YOU GO.UM, FIRST OF ALL, THIS REPORT AT THE TOP SAYS THAT IT'S, UH, FOR THE PERIOD ENDING 7 31.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A MORE UPDATED, LIKE, MONTHLY TYPE OF REPORT.
SO TYPICALLY WITH HOW IT WORKS WITH LIKE MONTH END AND THINGS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE LIKE BEHIND.
SO WE HAVE JULY EXPENSES FOR THIS MEETING AND WE'LL HAVE AUGUST AND THE NEXT ONE.
SO WE'RE FULL TWO MONTHS? YES.
JUST WITH HOW LIKE THIS MEETING HITS AND I HAVE TO SUBMIT THINGS AT A CERTAIN TIME.
AND WHEN, SO THIS IS FOR YEAR END, FOR FISCAL YEAR END.
DOES YOUR FISCAL YEAR END ON SEVENTH OR WHEN DID YOUR NO, NO, NO.
JUST THIS REPORT IS JUST FOR THAT MONTH OF, I BELIEVE IT'S ALL OF JULY.
IS THAT HOW IT'S PULLING UP? HOW DOES YOUR FISCAL YEAR RUN? IT GOES TILL SEPTEMBER 30TH.
THAT'S JUST A LOT OF MONEY LEFT TO SPEND.
WELL, WE, WE'VE ALSO SPENT THINGS IN AUGUST AND OKAY.
IT'S STILL GETTING THESE STUFF THERE WON'T DONE
ALSO, ZACH, MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS ON THIS.
WHERE ARE WE GONNA GET $56 MILLION FROM
I SO MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO NOT SPEND AS MUCH ON GRADING.
I THINK THAT WAS LIKE 16 MILLION OF THAT TOTAL.
UM, SO WE'VE KIND OF VISITED, MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK WITH THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, IS THAT MUCH DETENTION NECESSARY OR IS IT JUST NICE TO HAVE AS AN AMENITY? UM, THAT WAS A HUGE CHUNK OF THE COST.
UM, BUT IF WE'RE JUST WAITING UNTIL WE COLLECT PARK FEES TO PAY FOR THAT, WE'LL NEVER GET THERE.
WELL, AND IF WE'RE KEEPING IT NATURAL BACK THERE, LEAVE IT, LEAVE IT NATURAL.
I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE TO DO SOME, BUT I'LL BE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING WHAT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET LOOKS LIKE.
IT DOES NOT HAVE $56 MILLION THOUGH.
I'M NOT SURE WE'D GET ANOTHER BOND.
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AGENDA ITEMS. DISCUSSION OF FUTURE PARKS AND RECREATION RELATED TOPICS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS.UM, SPEAKING OF THE IRON STERN BATHROOM, I REALLY THINK THAT NEEDS A REFRESH.
AT LEAST A, A COAT OF POLYURETHANE OR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T LOSE IT.
'CAUSE IT REALLY IS, IT'S GORGEOUS AND IT FADES OVER TIME.
IT'S OUTSIDE AND THEN THE MAYFLOWER VINES GO IN.
THEY'RE PAINTED INSIDE BECAUSE WE HAD A TRELLIS THAT HAD THE PASSION VINE ON IT, AND SO IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IT WAS GOING INSIDE.
BUT THEN WE TOOK THE TRELLIS DOWN WHEN SHE PAINTED IT SO VINES CAME DOWN.
BUT, UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING WE'VE, WE HAVE A DEFINITE DATE OF NOVEMBER 7TH FOR FUL.
EVERYBODY PUT ON YOUR CALENDARS.
UM, IT, WE'RE GOING TO PLANT SOME SHRUBBERY AROUND THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT DOWNTOWN TO TRY TO SCREEN IT A LITTLE BIT AND WE'LL PLANT WILD FLOWERS DOWN THE MEDIUMS OF CHARGER WAY.
AND THE USUAL PICK UP THE LITTER.
I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE POCKET PARKS ON THE AGENDA.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THEM BEFORE, BUT THIS WAS THE SECOND, THIRD TIME THEY WOULD BE KIND OF MENTIONED.
WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD, WE CALL 'EM PARKLETS, BUT YES.
WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT PARKLETS IN THE FUTURE.
THEY PUT, WHICH I THINK WE DID BEFORE WE HAD, LIKE, THERE WAS THE TRAIN PROPOSED AT ONE POINT.
THERE WERE A FEW THAT I'VE, I'VE REMEMBER SEEING, BUT I'VE JUST, I'VE ASKED IN A FEW MEETINGS AND I THINK NOW THAT WE'VE HAD THEM BE REITERATED, WE COULD PUT THEM ON THERE IF THEY ARE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN THE FUTURE.
MAYBE WITH SOME COST BREAKDOWNS TOO.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE DID NOT GET THAT APPROVED ON THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.
BUT WE CAN STILL TALK ABOUT IT AND THAT'S FINE.
MAYBE JUST SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN REMEMBER ABOUT THEM TO PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND YOU HAVE ANYTHING? WE'RE GOOD.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
MOTION IS ADJOURNED AT 10 O'CLOCK.