* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. AT 9 0 1. [00:00:02] OH REALLY? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE [Call to Order] CALLING THE MEETING AT 9 0 1 , AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS COMMENTS? NO. ALL RIGHT. [Business - A] ITEM FOUR, BUSINESS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE MEETING HELD ON JUNE 12TH, 2026. ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM, UH, THE JUNE MEETING. I'LL SECOND RYAN. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. MOTION PASSES. [Business - B] ITEM B UPDATE ON THE PARKS AND PATHWAYS MASTER PLAN PRESENTED BY SHORE CITY MANAGER, ZACH DER UH, THANK YOU. VERY PASS. VERY EFFICIENT ALREADY. , WE TRIED. SO I'VE GOT SOME EARLY CONCEPT PLANS HERE. HOW'S IT GOING? DOING GOOD, THANKS. IT'S IMPRESSIVE. WELL, THANK YOU. THESE ARE JUST EARLY LINE DRAWINGS SO FAR, SO THIS WILL ALSO NOT BE THE LAST TIME THAT WE'RE HERE FOR THIS. UM, BUT WE'LL GET SOME COMMENTS TODAY FROM PARKS BOARD, CHANGE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE CONCEPTS, AND THEN COME BACK PROBABLY NEXT MONTH, UM, AND IF NEED BE UNTIL, UNTIL PARKS BOARD SAYS IT'S IT'S BEEN DONE. RIGHT, BASICALLY. UH, BUT REAL QUICK, UH, WE'VE PROBABLY UPDATED THE PARKS AND PATHWAYS PLAN PROBABLY EVERY OTHER YEAR, SOMETIMES EVERY YEAR FOR, FOR PERIODS OF TIME, JUST AS PLANS CHANGE, FUNDING CHANGES, PARK LANDS ACQUIRED, UM, OR DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPEN. MM-HMM . NOW THIS LATEST UPDATE'S BEEN TRIGGERED BY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. MM-HMM . UH, THE FIRST, WHICH WE'LL GET TO LATER, HAS BEEN THE CITY'S PURCHASE MORE RECENTLY OF 4.4 ACRES TO GROW PRIMROSE PARK. SO THAT'S RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF DIXON AND HUGGINS. UH, THAT PURCHASE WAS COMPLETED BY CITY COUNCIL, I BELIEVE IN MAY, UM, APRIL OR MAY. UM, BUT THAT WE'VE CLOSED. UM, SO THE CITY, CITY PARKLAND IS OURS NOW, AND THAT THAT GROWS PRIMOS PARK FOR ABOUT 30 ACRES. SO WHAT DO, WHAT DO WE WANNA DO WITH THAT ADDITIONAL 4.4 ACRES? THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY HERE IS THE DECIDE THAT, UH, SECONDLY, AND WHAT WE'LL ACTUALLY END UP COVERING FIRST IS THERE'S A VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING TO OUR SOUTH, NEAR AND ABOUT THE BRAZOS RIVER AND 7 23 AND BEETLE LANE, UH, DONE BY TAYLOR MORRISON IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TRIPOINT. UH, THAT IS A VERY, VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S THE OLD FOSTER FARMS TRACK, GIVEN ITS LOCATION, UM, FLOODWAY, FLOODPLAIN NEED FOR MITIGATION, ET CETERA. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 22 INCH, 2 2200 ACRES THAT CAN ACTUALLY NOT BE DEVELOPED. SO THERE'S A VERY BIG PARK OPPORTUNITY THERE. UM, I APPROACHED MR. BILL DALTON, WHO'S HERE FROM TAYLOR MORRISON QUITE A, QUITE A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND SAID, HEY, CAN THE CITY PARTNER ON SOME PARK SPACE? AND TO MY VERY PLEASANT SURPRISE, BILL SAID, YES, AND HE'S HERE TODAY. AND SO I'LL, I'LL ASK HIM TO COME UP IN A MINUTE JUST TO, JUST TO DESCRIBE HIS OWN, HIS OWN PLANS AND TIMELINE. UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT 2200 ACRES WILL BE COMPLETELY DEDICATED TO PARK SPACE. IT DOES MEAN, OF COURSE, THAT IT WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED, WHICH IS MAYBE ITS OWN BENEFIT. AND, UM, A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT, PROBABLY THE MAJORITY WILL BE PRESERVED FOR AGRICULTURAL GRAZING. SO THE CATTLEMEN WHO'S BEEN ON THAT PROPERTY, I GUESS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WILL CONTINUE. UM, THAT'LL PRESERVE, I THINK A VARIETY OF BENEFITS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR. BUT IT ALSO PRESERVES SOME OF THAT, THAT NATURAL SENSE OF WHAT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN THERE, WHICH HAS BEEN CATTLE GRAZING. UM, AND THAT WILL BE PROBABLY THE CENTER OF THAT 2200 ACRES. WHAT'S LEFT TO THAT TO THE EAST COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKLAND. WE'VE REALLY NOT IDENTIFIED THAT AS BEING WITHIN THE CITY'S DIRECT INTEREST BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN TAKE DOWN AND HANDLE. AND THAT'S ALSO THE FURTHEST GEOGRAPHICALLY FROM THE CITY, BECAUSE YOU WOULD ACCESS THAT REALLY FROM 7 23 OR EVANS ROAD, WHICH AS THESE BEETLE LANE AND OTHER ROADS GET REALIGNED, COULD BE DIFFICULT TO ACCESS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE CUMBERSOME. MM-HMM . SO THEREFORE, WE'VE, WE FOCUSED OUR INTEREST FOR CITY PARKLAND ALONG THE WEST, AND SO ALONG EXISTING ROADS, WHICH ON THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD BE STRATMAN AND BEETLE, UM, WHICH AGAIN, EXISTING ROADS ALREADY PAVED. I THINK STRATMAN IS IN PRETTY GOOD, UH, CONDITIONS FAR AS PAVEMENT GOES. UM, AND FOR FURTHER CONTEXT, IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN BO ARK, IT'S A BRIEF TURN TO THE EAST ON WINTER FOSTER, AND THEN A VERY QUICK TURN SOUTH ON STRATMAN. UH, AND IN THE FUTURE, UH, TEXAS EARTH PARKWAY, UH, [00:05:01] WILL PROVIDE ANOTHER NORTH SOUTH ACCESS POINT TO THIS DIRECT AREA. MM-HMM. UM, NOW FIRST, THE FIRST MAP HERE, THE FIRST SITE PLAN IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE IN APPROACH. SO IT, IT'S, IT'S PRESERVING EVERYTHING TO THE WEST OF STRATMAN FOR RIGHT NOW FOR MORE AGRICULTURAL LAND. UM, I THINK, BILL, YOU'VE DESCRIBED THAT THAT'S MAYBE BETTER ACCLIMATED I THINK RIGHT NOW TO GRAZING MAYBE SOME BETTER, UH, HAY PASTURES RIGHT NOW. UM, AND THEN OVER TIME, MAYBE THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL PARK SPACE AND EVERYTHING TO THE EAST OF STRATMAN ALONG MORE DIRECTLY BEETLE COULD BE. AND AS WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOFTBALL, UH, FIELDS, SOCCER OR MULTI MULTI-USE FIELDS, AND OF COURSE PARKING AND THEN OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAILS, UM, CYCLE PATHS, ET CETERA, AND WHEREVER POSSIBLE, AS MANY PLACES AS POSSIBLE, NATURAL, UH, NATURAL LANDSCAPES. UH, THE SECOND SHEET SHOWS A, A HEAVIER USE OF THAT AREA WEST OF STRATMAN, UM, WITH I THINK TWICE THE NUMBER OF FIELDS. BUT I THINK AS MR. DALTON HAS EXPRESSED, THE INTENT WOULD BE TO MAXIMIZE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AT LEAST FOR NOW, THE AREA WEST OF STRATMAN, TO CONTINUE THE CATTLE GRAZING. AND I THINK, UH, BY AND LARGE, I THINK THAT'S EXCITING TO US AS WELL AS WE THINK ABOUT CREATING A, A PARK SPACE THAT DOES TWO THINGS WELL, WHICH IS HARD TO DO, BUT I THINK WITH AN AREA THIS SIZE, YOU CAN DO THAT, WHICH IS GO WITH A HEAVIER SPORTS USE AT SOME PLACES, BUT PRESERVE LARGE NATIVE NATURAL LANDSCAPES. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL SAY THEY MISS THE COWS. WELL, HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT YOU GO TO THE PARK AND ACTUALLY GET TO SEE THE COWS? THAT'S PRETTY COOL, I THINK. UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO FIRST INTRODUCE THOSE VERY BROADLY, INVITE BILL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. GREAT JOB. OKAY. WELL, I COVERED IT ALL. UM, BUT, AND I WAS JUST DESCRIBING THIS TO, TO, TO BILL A SECOND AGO, BUT AGAIN, I THINK HIS PREFERENCE IS TO TRY TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THE LAND WEST OF STRATMAN. SO STRATMAN IS THE NORTH SOUTH ROAD, JUST, JUST, JUST TO BE SHORT, IT'S THE NORTH SOUTH ROAD. MM-HMM . UM, SO ON THAT FIRST SHEET, EVERYTHING THAT'S EAST OF THAT IS THE SPORTS FIELDS, THE TRAILS THAT'S EAST OF STRATMAN. EVERYTHING WEST OF STRATMAN IS, UM, RIGHT NOW IN THIS PLAN PRESERVED FOR CATTLE GRAZING. OKAY. WHERE IS BEETLE ON THAT? BEETLE IS THE EAST WEST ROAD. EAST WEST ROAD. THE LARGER ONE. THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. YEAH. THAT'S BEETLE AND NORTH, SOUTH STRATMAN, WHICH I THINK DUMPS YOU RIGHT ON, ON 7 23 OVER BY HEIMER AND FOSTER HIGH SCHOOL. AND I THINK IS ACTUALLY BEING REALIGNED AS PART OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT. MM-HMM . SO WHAT ABOUT NORTH? WHAT ABOUT NORTH OF WHERE THOSE, UH, SOFTBALL COURTS ARE AND THE TENNIS AND THE SOCCER COURTS? IS THAT WHERE THAT LITTLE ACCESS ROAD IS? HOUSES? IS IT THAT PART OF THE PARKLAND TOO? OR NOT? SO NORTH OF, NORTH OF THESE FIELDS NORTH ON THAT FIRST PLANT RIGHT THERE, NORTH OF THE SOFTBALL FIELDS, SOCCER FIELDS IS MORE PROBABLY SOME DETENTION SPACES SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSES. OKAY. AND WHERE IS EVANS IS OFF OF THIS MAP, RIGHT? IT IS, IT'S, IT'S OFF THE MAP TO THE SOUTH AND EAST IS THAT IS SUCH A PRETTY DRIVE BACK THERE. IS THAT, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THAT INTO A PROPER STREET ROAD? NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE EVANS AT ALL. OKAY. AND FACT, I, I THINK THE COUNTY'S TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING MM-HMM . YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. AND, AND I THINK, JUST TO ANSWER THE EVANS POINT, I DON'T THINK MUCH OF YOUR PROPERTY ACTUALLY GETS ACCESS OFF OF EVANS ROAD. UM, NONE ACTUALLY, BUT THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ARE BOTH LOOKING AT PARK OPPORTUNITIES HERE. MM-HMM . UM, AND THE COUNTY HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN THE SOUTH AND EAST, WHICH AS I SAID EARLIER, IS KIND OF FURTHER AWAY FROM THE CITY. SO THAT'S VERY NATURAL FOR THEM. UM, AND IT'S USEFUL TO THINK OF THIS WHOLE AREA, WHICH IS GONNA BE SOUTH OF DEVELOPMENT. IT'S SORT OF THIRDS. SO THE WESTERN THIRD ALONG STRATMAN, WHICH IS KINDA WHERE WE'RE FOCUSED HERE WITH THIS IMAGE, WOULD BE THE CITY FOCUSED AREA, FURTHEST WEST, FURTHEST NORTH, CLOSEST TO THE CITY, THE MIDDLE. AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE IMAGE HERE. THERE'S A LARGE DRAINAGE OUTFALL, UM, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT DOWN TO THE RIVER. UM, THAT, THAT'S REALLY WHERE A LOT OF THE CATTLE GRAZING WOULD BE CENTERED. AND THEN OFF STILL FURTHER TO THE EAST AND SOUTH WOULD BE MAYBE A POTENTIAL COUNTY PARK OPPORTUNITY. AND I THINK IN THIS AREA WHERE THE CITY'S FOCUS, THERE'S REALLY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT A LOT OF WETLANDS. ANYTHING WOULD BE REALLY MINIMAL, I BELIEVE. UM, SO OTHER THAN PIPELINES AND A COUPLE OF DRILL SITES AND THEN JUST, UM, ACCOMMODATING [00:10:01] IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA, AT LEAST AN INTERIM DESIRE TO MAINTAIN, MAINTAIN SOME CATTLE GRAZING. THERE'S A TON OF PARK OPPORTUNITIES I'D LOVE TO SEE BACK THERE, MAYBE AROUND THE CATTLE GRAZING, HORSE RIDING AREAS, BECAUSE QUESTION, I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS ALONG BOAR HA STILL HAVE HORSES AND THERE'S NOWHERE LEFT TO RIDE. AND IT'S, I THINK IT EVEN BE PRETTY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN A PARK AND YOU SEE PEOPLE RIDING HORSES JUST LEAVE SOME AREAS PEOPLE COULD RIDE BACK THERE. OKAY. AND I THINK ALSO I WANNA POINT OUT, UM, ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT WOULD BE FUNDING. OF COURSE. I, I THINK THE CITY OF OSHA HAS DEMONSTRATED A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH DEVELOPERS ON PARK SPACES BEFORE, LIKE EAGLE LANDING, FOR INSTANCE. UH, WHERE WE WORK VERY WELL, I THINK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE SIGNAGE AND OTHER THINGS ARE DONE IN UNISON AND COHESIVE, UM, EVEN SEPARATE FROM A DEVELOPER. I THINK WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THE PROMOS PARK AND WE WILL DEAL WITH BESSIE'S CREEK PARK AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TRI POINT OVER IN PECAN RIDGE. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE DESIRE HERE AND IS EVER EXPRESS TO BILL. WHY NOT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WANT SOMETHING TO LOOK M MISHMASH, UH, NEXT TO ANOTHER NICE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. UH, PARTICULARLY IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE LAND DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR PARK USE. BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY COME WITH SOME SORT OF TIMELINE EXPECTATIONS AS TO WHEN CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE PARK GET DONE. UM, AND OF COURSE HOW THEY LOOK. BUT WE'VE NOT REALLY GONE TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL YET, TO BE FAIR. UH, BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO START THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN EARNEST BECAUSE WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT THE DESIRED USES, UH, TYPES OF PARK SPACES ARE. MM-HMM . AND DO WE, UM, NOW THAT NEMA LEFT, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE WRITING GRANTS? UH, WE HAVE SOMEONE, UH, WHO WILL BE STARTING ON MONDAY, I BELIEVE. START LOOKING FOR THOSE TOO. MM-HMM . UM, THAT IS EXCITING. THAT'S WONDERFUL. WELL, SO FAR I'VE ONLY HEARD EQUESTRIAN TRAILS. IS THERE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS FOR, FOR THIS SPACE? WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS YOU COULD DO. THERE'S LIKE DRONE GOLF NOW THAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE. DRONE GOLF. DRONE GOLF. DO YOU? OR THEY GO THROUGH CIRCLES. OH, , DRONE GOLF, DISC GOLF, SAND VOLLEYBALL WE NEED TO ADDRESS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN THE, IN THE CITY. MM-HMM . NO. WE HAVE ONE IN CROSS CREEK COURT. CROSS CREEK, AND THAT'S IT. THERE'S THE HORSES WON'T GET ALONG. , I, I WAS GONNA SAY, I HAD ONE. I DON'T SAY THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE. . I HAD ONE IN MY, ON MY PROPERTY WHEN MY GIRLS WERE YOUNGER. THOSE ARE NIGHTMARE TO KEEP CLEAN. . OH, THE SAND VOLLEYBALL. MM-HMM . IS THAT THE SAND VOLLEYBALL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, THEY'RE GREAT, BUT, AND THEIR PLACE IS A PUMPKIN PARK IN HOUSTON HAS ONE. THEY MANAGE TO DO IT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE WILDLIFE WE HAVE. WHAT ABOUT TENNIS COURTS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS? SO, SO I, I DIDN'T WANNA JUMP AHEAD. UH, BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THESE PARK SPACES, THERE'S ANOTHER PARK THAT'S RIGHT AROUND PRIMROSE, RIGHT, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM PRIMROSE PARK, WHICH IS IRENE STERN. AND SO IF WE'RE DOING ONE TH ONE OR TWO THINGS HERE OR AT PRIMROSE THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT'VE PREVIOUSLY ENVISIONED DOING IN IRENE STERN, IT'S USEFUL TO BRING THAT IN THE CONVERSATION AS WELL. UH, 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA LOOK AT THESE IN ISOLATION BECAUSE AN IN A PARTICULAR USE AT ONE PARK MIGHT LEAD TO NOT DOING SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE. UM, AND ALSO TOO, WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT TENNIS DOWN THIS FAR SOUTH BECAUSE IT IS OF COURSE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN. AND THAT WOULD LEAD TO MORE MITIGATION THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. UM, THERE'S ALREADY OF COURSE, GONNA NEED BE A NEED FOR PARKING, BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA COMPOUND THAT NEED, THAT NEED FOR MITIGATION. SO YOU'RE THINKING TENNIS COURTS AT IRENE STERN THAT AT THE PRESENT MOMENT. UM, AND, AND WE CAN, WE CAN KIND OF JUMP THERE. 'CAUSE AGAIN, UM, PURPOSELY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THESE ALL AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE OR CAN BE SOMEWHAT INTERCHANGEABLE USES BETWEEN THE SPACES. UM, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. WE'LL RUN THROUGH ALL OF THEM AND THEN WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO EACH. SO IF YOU GO TO SLIDE OR, UH, PAGE THREE, THIS IS THE NEW 4.4 ACRES AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PRIMROSE PARK. UH, THIS IS KIND OF JUST A EARLY FIT OF WHAT COULD GO THERE AFTER JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS. UH, BUT NOTICE AS WELL, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 4.4 ADDITIONAL ACRES BECAUSE WE ALSO HAD, AS DIXON ROAD SHIFTED, JUST SLIGHTLY EAST TO BETTER ALIGN WITH HOUSTON STREET, WE ACQUIRED ANOTHER HALF ACRE AT THAT TIME TOO. SO IT'S IN EFFECT FIVE ACRES. UH, I THINK MAKING IT FOR A FULL, THAT, THAT'S THE FULL 30 ACRES AT PRIMROSE PARK. SO THIS EARLY FIT, UM, SHOWS TWO T-BALL FIELDS UP AGAINST THE DETENTION POND. AND I THINK, AND SOME, SOME OTHER FOLKS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK A T-BALL SIZE FIELD IS ACTUALLY, UH, PRETTY, PRETTY COMMENSURATE IN SIZE TO A SOFTBALL FIELD. YEAH. SO YOU COULD DO BOTH, BOTH THINGS THERE. UH, OF COURSE, QUITE A BIT MORE PARKING AND MAYBE WE NEED MORE PARKING, SO I'M GONNA GET SOME INPUT THERE. UH, THIS INCLUDES, THIS PLAN HERE SHOWS TWO AND A HALF BASKETBALL COURTS. I THINK AN IMMEDIATE SUGGESTION WOULD BE, WE PROBABLY DON'T NEED ANOTHER SHADE STRUCTURE RIGHT THERE. SHOULD JUST DOUBLE DOWN TO DO THREE BASKETBALL COURTS [00:15:01] RATHER THAN THE TWO AND A HALF. UM, THAT SHADE STRUCTURE. AND THEN FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS. UH, AND THEN AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S STILL SOME LEFTOVER SPACE WHERE THAT RIGHT OF WAY SHIFTED THAT COULD BE MORE COURTS WHERE PARKING, ET CETERA. UM, I ALSO SHOULD TRY TO PUT SOME BROADER CONTEXT HERE AS DIXON ROAD HAS BEEN REALIGNED, UM, THIS ACTUALLY ENDS UP GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE CITY'S PLANT, EAST SIDE TRIBUTARY, WHICH IS SORT OF AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THIS INTERSECTION. SO IF YOU CAN KIND OF IMAGINE THAT OFF THE MAP HERE. MM-HMM . UH, THAT'LL PROVIDE A REGIONAL DETENTION TO THE EAST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN. IT'S NEARLY COMPLETE WITH DESIGN. UH, IT'S FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION, SO IF WE CAN GET THAT STARTED PRETTY SOON MM-HMM . BUT THAT'LL HAVE A LINEAR TRAIL ALONG IT RIGHT UP TO THIS INTERSECTION. SO WE'D WANNA SEE THAT, UH, CONTINUED FROM THE SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION INTO THE PARK, FURTHER INTEGRATING, UH, PRIMOS PARK WITH THE TRIBUTARY AND, AND DOWNTOWN MORE GENERALLY. MM-HMM . IS THIS HUGGINS OR DIXON ON THE SOUTH END? THAT IS, THAT IS HUGGINS DRIVE ON THE SOUTH END. THAT IS DIXON ON THE EAST. AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT OF THE DASH AREA HERE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER IS PHASE THREE, UH, PHASE THREE OF PROMOS PARK. AND THE, THE AMPHITHEATER IS NOT CHANGING LOCATIONS FROM WHERE WE HAD IT IN PHASE THREE. RIGHT. IT'S JUST YOU'RE, WE'RE SEEING A PORTION PHASE THREE ON HERE. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S JUST TO HELP PROVIDE SOME LOCATION CONTEXT. UM, WE'RE PRETTY FAR ALONG, I THINK WITH THOSE DESIGNS. UH, IT'S PROBABLY, PROBABLY PREFERENCE THAT WE DON'T CHANGE THOSE THIS FAR ALONG , SO WE CAN GET THAT OUT FORBID, UH, HOPEFULLY PRETTY SOON. UM, BEFORE I MOVE ON AND THEN EVENTUALLY COME BACK, SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN LEFT, UH, AS IN PHASE THREE WITHOUT ANYTHING REALLY DEFINED, IS THAT AREA THAT'S LABELED BUILDING. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN THE PHASE THREE AREA. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING, IT'S, IT'S THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. OH, YEAH. IT SAYS BUILDING IT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BUILDING. IT COULD BE MORE PARKING, IT COULD BE OTHER COURT SPACE, IT COULD BE A BUILDING. UM, SO THAT, DO WE HAVE A BUILDING FOR WELL STORE, STORE BUILDING OR, SO THAT, THIS IS A VERY GOOD SEGUE TO THE NEXT ONE. SO IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE ANYTHING. IT, IT COULD BE A FIRST AID NEED. IT COULD BE WE SELL IT FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT COULD BE THAT WE UTILIZE, MAYBE WE DON'T DO THAT, BUT SELL PARKLAND. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. IS ANY, ANY NUMBER OF, OF OPTIONS? I'M NOT, THAT'S NOT THE ONE I'M SUGGESTING. UM, AS WE, AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO IRENE STERN PARK OR, AND BUILDING TWO THOUGH, RIGHT NOW THAT IS AN AREA THAT'S LEASED OUT FOR EVENTS, UM, IT COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE MAYBE IRENE STERN, THAT BUILDING BECOMES MORE OF A DEDICATED PARK USE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARK AT IRENE STERN. AND THEN HERE NEXT TO THE AMPHITHEATER, CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN AND CLOSER TO THE CITY'S PREMIER PARK, YOU HAVE MORE OF THE EVENT CENTER THAT COULD BE LEASED OUT. AND I THINK IS PRETTY SYMBIOTIC WITH THE AMPHITHEATER. SO YEAH. MM-HMM . WELL, I MEAN, OH, I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE OLD TEAS NURSERY, THE EVELYN'S PLACE PARK. OH, YEAH. IN HOUSTON MM-HMM . WHERE THEY HAVE A REALLY CUTE LITTLE RESTAURANT ON SITE. YEAH. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE WHERE YOU HAVE THE BUILDING. SO, AND, AND INCLUDING LIKE A LITTLE PLAYGROUND LIKE THEY DO OVER THERE AT EVELYN'S. YEAH. IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S CUTE THEN THERE'S ALWAYS, IT'S A RESTAURANT. IT'S NOT A REAL SIT DOWN FANCY RESTAURANT. IT'S NOT LIKE MM-HMM . GREEN, WHAT'S IT CALLED IN HOUSTON? IT, BUT IT'S FOOD. YEAH. . SO, AND IT'S CUTE. YEAH. WELL, AND WE'LL, WE'LL JUST PARK THAT FOR NOW AND THEN AGAIN WE'LL DO IRENE STERN AND THEN COME BACK. WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO US, SO IS PARKING OR A BUILDING THAT WE CAN ADD FOOD IN? DO WE HAVE, SO I, I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF REQUESTS, I THINK ALREADY FOR SOME MORE ADDITIONAL PARKING. UM, SO IT, UH, IT, IT COULD BE MORE THAT, THAT BUILDING SPACE COULD BE MORE PARKING. WE COULD ELIMINATE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND PUT MORE PARKING THERE. OR AGAIN, THERE'S THAT SORT OF VESTIGE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S RIGHT THERE TOWARDS THE INTERSECTION OF DIXON AND HUGGINS IN HOUSTON. UH, YOU COULD MAKE SOME OF THAT PARKING AS WELL, OR, OR SHIFT SOME OF THE COURTS OVER THERE AND PUT PARKING WHERE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE. UM, WE'RE SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS OR SAND VOLLEYBALL HAVE TO HAVE FENCE AROUND EITHER ONE, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. TRUE, TRUE. IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO MAINTAIN HERE THEN. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, DOWN CLOSER. WE NEED TO, TO THE RIVER. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING ME ABOUT THAT. WE NEED TO HAVE NOW ADDRESS THAT ISSUE ALSO. NOT JUST SAY, OH, WILDLIFE'S GONNA GET IN THERE. IT'S GONNA BE A MESS. I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT STILL MM-HMM . WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR CITIZENS TO PROVIDE IT. MM-HMM . ABSOLUTELY. UM, NEXT, WELL, HANG ON ONE MORE THING. SURE. JUST TO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, ME, UM, THAT AREA THAT WE JUST BOUGHT, THE 4.4 ACRES, THERE'S SOME INCREDIBLE WILD NATURAL WILDFLOWER FIELDS IN, THERE'D BE NICE TO, I MEAN, I KNOW WE CAN'T SAVE ALL OF THEM, BUT MAYBE UP AGAINST THE ROAD, [00:20:02] THAT'S WHERE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND THEY COME BACK, THEY RE-SEED NATURALLY AND THEY'RE GORGEOUS. MM-HMM . AND A LOT OF THOSE PICTURES THAT WE SAY WAS PARKED, IT'S WASN'T ACTUALLY PARKED, IT WAS RIGHT HERE. IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARK. UM, WELL, YOU SAID THAT'S CLOSER TO THE ROAD. YEAH. SO MAYBE THAT'S, MAYBE THAT'S DONE CLOSER TO THAT INTERSECTION. YEAH. MAYBE THAT'S THE, THE FIRST VIEWPOINT INTO THE PARK SPACE. TRUE. YEAH. THERE'S SOME KIND OF FIELD THERE. YEP. LITTLE SIGN, PRIMROSE PARK, AND THEN A FIELD, A FIELD OF WALLFLOWERS, OF WILDFLOWERS. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO 'EM, THEY JUST DO THEIR THING. WELL, AND THERE'S ALSO, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE MARKED ON HERE, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A, THERE'S SOME EXISTING AND MATURE TREES THAT ARE, THAT ARE THERE AS WELL. SO I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO PROBABLY BETTER PINPOINT THOSE ON THE NEXT MAP AND SEE IF THEY, AT LEAST IN LARGE PART, CAN BE PRESERVED GOING ON UP. MM-HMM . LIKE IF IT'S, IF WE LIKE WHERE THESE T-BALL SOFTBALL FIELDS ARE AND THERE'S A TREE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S ONE THAT IS HARDER WAY AROUND . AUTOMATIC HOME RUN. YEAH. WORK AROUND THAT IN THE, IN THE BASEBALL. UM, NEXT, WHICH IS PAGE FOUR, THIS WAS, UH, BIRD'S FIRST STAB AT DOING SOMETHING AT IRENE STERN PARK. MM-HMM . OH. UM, AND THIS KIND OF FOLLOWS, I THINK, PRETTY CLOSELY TO WHAT'S THE CURRENT PLAN THERE. UM, BUT IT SORT OF TAKES THE PLAYGROUND SPACE, WHICH IS UP CLOSER TO THE PARKING IN THE ROAD AND PUTS IT IN THE BACK. UM, YEAH. AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S LABELED WITH 2024 MASTER PLAN THERE MM-HMM . UH, THAT WAS ENVISIONED AS MORE OF A NATURAL PLAYGROUND SPACE. SO BUILDING UP SOME BERMS WITH THE SLIDE ON IT, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S ACTUALLY SAFER BACK THERE ANYWAY, HAVING SOME LIKE LOGS BESIDES POISON IVY. YEAH. UM, AND THEN, AND THEN PUTTING AND GOING HEAVIER ON THE COURT SPACES, UH, CLOSER TO THE ROAD. AND I THINK THAT'S IN LARGE PART BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GETTING CAPTURED ANYWHERE ELSE. UM, THIS IS CLOSER TO CROSS CREEK WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BE MORE LIKELY TO, TO DO THAT SORT OF ACTIVITY. UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW THAT'S, AS WE HAVE A SURVEY GOING ON THAT'S PROBABLY PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS I THINK ARE KIND OF UP THERE. UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THAT ONE ESSENTIALLY. UH, THE NEXT ONE WE SORT OF TOOK THAT PLAN. SO THIS ONE'S ONE THAT WE MADE USING GI IS SO A LOT OF THE SAME DIMENSIONS. AND WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN PROBABLY CREATE SOME EFFICIENCIES A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS PLAN DID. MM-HMM . AND, AND THIS MIGHT BETTER TO ALLOW FOR PHASING BECAUSE THERE ALREADY IS AN EXISTING PLAYGROUND THERE. AND THE PRIOR PLANE YOU JUST SAW WOULD BASICALLY REQUIRE THAT TO BE OBLITERATED. AND, AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME PERIOD AT LEAST WHERE YOU'RE, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PARK SPACE THERE. AND SO THIS PLAN, UM, WAS ENVISIONED TO PRESERVE THE PLAYGROUND SPACE NOW INTO THE FUTURE. IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE UPGRADED, UM, BUT MAYBE, UH, BEFORE THEN OR AFTER, THEN YOU HAVE THE BACK OF THE PARK SPACE, THE BACK OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY, FOUR COURTS. AND THAT'S BASICALLY ORIENTING THEM MORE TOWARDS FULCHER BEND RATHER THAN OFF OF KATY FULCHER. AND IT ALLOWS YOU, I THINK, TO MAYBE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF TENNIS AND GROW, OR AT LEAST PRESERVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PICKLEBALL COURTS. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO IT GETS YOU SIX AND EIGHT MM-HMM . SO PRETTY, UH, PRETTY HEFTY THERE. BUT THEN IT ALSO, I THINK, BETTER UTILIZES SOME OF THE AWKWARD TRIANGLES THAT ARE IN THIS PROPERTY. SO YOU'VE GOT, UH, THE TRIANGLE ON THE SOUTHWEST, JUST ON THE BACK OF THE CURRENT PARKING LOT, WHICH IS PRESERVED FOR PLAYGROUND NATURAL SPACE. AND THEN AGAIN, YOU PRESERVE ALL THE EXISTING, OR NEARLY ALL OF THE EXISTING BUTTERFLY GARDEN. UM, THAT'S TRUE THAT THE LARGE OAK TREE THAT'S THERE AND ALL THAT AREA FOR CONTINUED PLAYGROUND USE, AND IT, I KNOW YOU SAID IT WAS MAYBE BETTER BACK THERE OR SAFER, BUT WE ALSO FELT LIKE I OPT FOR THE OTHER THOUGH. I LIKE THIS ONE. OKAY. BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE IT WAS SAVE THE TREE, IT WAS A LITTLE MORE VISIBLE IF, IF KIDS ARE PLAYING RATHER THAN A BACK CORNER, IT'S NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THIS IS CROSS CREEK, RIGHT? SO THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY HUGGINS RANCH. MM-HMM . AH, OKAY. SO GOT A CONTACT. THERE'S SOME, YEAH, THERE'S SOME . I SEE THE MINE GOING . WELL, THAT, THAT'S A FUTURE OPPORTUNITY IF AND WHEN THAT PROPERTY EVER CHANGES STANDARD OR DEVELOPS THAT YOU COULD GROW IT THAT DIRECTION AS WELL. UM, BUT YES, THERE'S SUCH A HARD STOP THERE. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND THEN TO THE NORTH, THAT'S OF COURSE THE STEP OUT OF SHORE BAND WHERE IT TERMINATES RIGHT NOW. AND SO THAT'S ALL OF THEM IN BRIEF. UM, I THINK A COUPLE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS, SORT OF IN REVERSE ORDER WOULD BE IRENE STERN. DO WE LIKE THOSE GENERAL PARK USES AND LAYOUTS? THINK LONG TERM? WHAT'S THE VISION OF THE CURRENT BUILDING THAT'S THERE? UM, IF IT'S MORE PARK FOCUSED, UH, MORE DIRECTLY RELATED TO MAYBE THE COURT ACTIVITY PARKS IN GENERAL, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE SPACE, THINKING BACK TO PROSE PARK BECOMES MORE OF THE CITY'S EVENT CENTER EVENT [00:25:01] SPACE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A PLAYGROUND? MAYBE, MAYBE SOME FOOD OPPORTUNITIES, UH, BUT BECAUSE THAT COULD BE SYMBIOSIS WITH DOWNTOWN, UH, BUT ALSO THE AMPHITHEATER AND MAYBE BIGGER EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING. UH, JUST ADJACENT, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT PRESERVING SOME TREES WHEREVER POSSIBLE SAND VOLLEYBALL. SO MAYBE IF JUST ANYWHERE IN PARTICULAR OR PRIMROSE, EITHER PRIMROSE OR IRENE STERN . OKAY. I THINK GR GRADED IRENE PROBABLY EASIER TO CARE FOR IT. IRENE STERN. IT'D PROBABLY BE EASIER TO CARE FOR IT. IRENE STERN. YOU THINK SO? I WOULD THINK SO. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE WILDLIFE, EVERYBODY. YEAH. OKAY. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER BIG QUESTION AT PRIMROSES IS REALLY PARKING. SO IF THERE'S A, A NEED FOR PARKING, WHAT SHIFTS? WHERE WOULD YOU WANNA PUT THAT PARKING? UM, I MENTIONED AS WELL THAT TWO AND A HALF BASKETBALL COURTS PROBABLY A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GO THREE FULL BASKETBALL COURTS. UM, BUT I, I GUESS CHIEFLY WITH THE PARKING, DO WE WANT TO TAKE THE PICKLEBALL OUT, GET THAT OVER AT IRE AND STERN AND MAKE THAT AREA PARKING? UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THE PARKLAND DOWN AT THE RIVER OR ANY, ANYTHING THAT REALLY STANDS OUT THERE. BUT REMEMBER, WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID TOO MUCH IMPERMEABLE SURFACES DOWN THERE. SO THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF FOCUSED, UH, SOFTBALL, T-BALL, UH, MULTIUSE FIELDS. VOLLEY WASHED OUT. IT COULD, IT COULD, WE, WE HOPE THERE'S NOT TOO MANY RAIN EVENTS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT, THAT, THAT EXISTS. WHAT ABOUT A GOLF COURSE? IS THERE ANY ENOUGH ROOM FOR A GOLF COURSE SOMEWHERE OVER THERE? POTENTIALLY BILL, MAYBE A GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY. PUT SOME DEALERS OUT AND, AND, UH, YEAH. COME UP. DIDN'T TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT WE DID TALK TO SOME FOLKS THAT DEVELOPED A COURSE, UH, IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN A FLOODPLAIN. AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS, NEVER AGAIN. OKAY. WELL IT, YOU, YOU'VE GOT TO, EVERY TIME YOU'VE FILL SOMETHING, YOU'VE GOT TO MITIGATE FOR IT. SO THEY SAID, THEY SAID THE DESIGN OF IT AND THEN GETTING THE CORE TO BUY INTO IT WAS REALLY A CHALLENGE. AND THEN THAT DOESN'T TOUCH IF IT EVER GETS FLOODED. SO I THINK PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THAT ARE TOO EXCITED ABOUT IT. HOWEVER, IF YOU GUYS KNOW SOMEBODY, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK TO THEM. CJ MCDANIEL, HE'S THE ONLY ONE I WOULD KNOW THAT WOULD KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSES. WELL, WE'VE GOT, UM, THE PARK OVER THERE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, ZACH, WHAT'S IT CALLED OVER THERE ON 7 23? OH, JONES CREEK PARK. JONES CREEK PARK. ISN'T THAT THERE'S GOLF COURSE THERE, ISN'T THERE? THERE'S DISC GOLF. DISC GOLF, YEAH. OH, JUST DISC. YEAH. AND, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S AN EASY OPPORTUNITY TO DO DISC GOLF HERE. OF COURSE. IT'S PRETTY RELATIVELY SIMPLE. IT'S ON THE, THE, THE PLAN, I THINK. YEAH. WELL THERE WAS SOMEBODY AT THAT MEETING WITH DISC GOLF AT THAT ORIGINAL MEETING. IT, HE IT'S A INTEREST. YEAH. DRONE GOLF MAYBE. I THINK I HEARD A REFERENCE MAYBE THAT WOULD CONFLICT WITH THE HORSE, HORSE SIDE HERE. BUT, UM, AND IT'S USUALLY DRONE RACING AND IT'S IN LIKE A STADIUM OR SOMEWHERE THAT'S A CONFINED SPOT. NOT LIKE JUST OUT AT A PARK. GO AHEAD. FLY YOUR DRONE THROUGH A BUNCH OF CIRCLES. OKAY. SO I'M JUST, JUST AN IDEA. I SAW IT ON SOME THINGS. DRONE GOLF. COOL. SO MAYBE NOT, MAYBE NO DRONE GOLF FOR NOW, BUT DRONE GOLF. BUT, UH, EQUESTRIAN IS THAT QUESTION. I LIKE THAT IDEA. I DID IT. NOT ONLY IT GIVES SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN, THAT CAN'T GET A HORSE TRAILER THROUGH SHORE IN THE TRAFFIC ANYMORE, A PLACE TO GO. BUT AGAIN, IT'S AESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OUT. AND PEOPLE STILL THINK OF SHORE. OKAY. THEY MIGHT NOT THINK OF US IS COUNTRY, BUT COUNTRY-ISH. AND SEE THE AESTHETIC OF SEEING HORSEBACK RIDERS, IT'S RIGHT DOWN BO ARK. I MEAN, IT'S EASY FOR 'EM TO RIDE DOWN THERE ON. THEY COULD RIDE THIS RIDE DOWN THERE AND NOT DEAL WITH THE TRAILER. YEAH. I AGREE. I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU CAN'T TURN A BASKETBALL COURT INTO A TENNIS COURT. CAN YOU, CAN YOU CREATE A DUAL PURPOSE? LIKE DOES THAT YOU CAN. YES, YOU CAN. OKAY. THE ONLY REASON I'M I WAS ASKING IS THAT LADY THAT CAME TO OUR LAST MEETING, SHE WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT TENNIS. TENNIS. YEAH. AND IT'S MAINLY BECAUSE I GUESS ALL THE SCHOOLS AROUND NO LONGER CONTRACT WITH TENNIS CAMPS TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR THEM TO PLAY TENNIS. AND SO I WAS GONNA SAY THAT WE HAVE PICKLE COURTS AND BASKETBALL COURTS AT PRIMROSE, BUT THEN WE'RE GONNA DO TENNIS COURTS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS AT IRENE STERN. I WOULD THINK IF WE'RE DOING THOSE, BOTH OF THOSE, PUTTING THEM AT IRENE STERN TENNIS COURTS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS WOULD MAKE SENSE. AND THEN MAYBE UTILIZING THAT SPACE OVER AT PRIMROSE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. MM-HMM . UM, BUT THEN I STARTED SAYING THE BASKETBALL COURTS, AND I WAS THINKING DUAL PURPOSE. I, NOT EVERYBODY PLAYS BASKETBALL. NOT EVERYBODY PLAYS TENNIS, BUT IF IT WAS A DUAL PURPOSE SPOT, THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR BOTH. IT'S POSSIBLE. I THINK THE LINES PROBABLY OKAY. KIND OF CONFLICT. IT'S PROBABLY EASIER WITH PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS. BUT EVEN STILL, I THINK THE LINES CONFLICT A LITTLE BIT. [00:30:01] UM, BUT IF WE LIKE THE, WHAT'S IN VISION AT IRENE STERN TO CAPTURE IT WAS ASHLEY GARDNER, HER, HER, HER THOUGHTS THERE. OKAY. AND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SHE PRESENTED LAST TIME, I, I'VE ALREADY ASKED HER AND SHE WAS LIKE, GREAT, ZACH, THIS LOOKS GREAT. . UH, SO I'M SURE WE COULD DEFINITELY SHIFT OUT THE PICKLEBALL AT PRIMROSE FOR MORE PARKING, MORE BASKETBALL, SAND VOLLEYBALL, WHATEVER, WHATEVER WOULD BE ENVISIONED THERE. BUT YEAH, I WOULD SAY ALMOST, UM, IF WE COULD DO LIKE TWO TENNIS COURTS IN A BASKETBALL AT ONE AND THEN VICE VERSA THAT WAY, JUST LIKE IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY. ESPECIALLY LIKE, I KNOW LIKE HUGGINS, ALL THE KIDS, WHEN MY BOYS WERE LITTLE, EVERYBODY PLAYED BASKETBALL AT HUGGINS, BUT IT'S ALL CHAINED OFF NOW SO NOBODY CAN GO THERE. SO IT'D BE AWESOME TO HAVE IT AT IRENE STERN 'CAUSE THEY COULD WALK AFTER SCHOOL AND GO PLAY. TRUE. YEAH. I THINK I, I I LIKE THE IDEA OF MIXED USES AT PARKS. MM-HMM . BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ASH, ASPEN TENNIS, A POTENTIAL BIG RENTER OF THESE SPACES. YEAH. WELL, IF THERE'S ONLY ONE OR TWO RIGHT. IT PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE. TORE STORM. WE'RE PLANNING TO DO SIX. IF YOU DO SIX, THERE'S PLENTY. YEAH. THERE, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT MAYBE A USER THAT WOULD BE UTILIZING IT DURING THE DAY. YEAH. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT RENTING IT OUT. I, YEAH, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. AND THEN YOU COULD JUST, UH, PLAYING PICKUP GAMES. RIGHT. YOU GOT ENOUGH PICKLEBALL COURTS THERE. YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER FIVE PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND THEN THE OTHER THREE COULD BE SAND VALLEY BALL DOWN BELOW IT. MM-HMM . THAT'S MY THOUGHT. WHAT WAS THE NUMBER ON THAT AGAIN? WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR, YOU GOT FIVE PICKLEBALL COURTS. MM-HMM . IN THE LITTLE PINK AREA. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, ACTUALLY IT HAS EIGHT, BUT YOU COULD TAKE THE LOWER THREE AND JUST MAKE THOSE SAND VALLEY BALL AND IT WOULD WORK. OKAY. WELL THERE'S ALSO, SEE THE, THE GREEN AREA THAT, THAT SHAPE POLYGON THERE THAT WE'VE CREATED THAT SAYS PLAYGROUND NATURAL SPACE. YOU CAN MAKE THAT SAND VOLLEYBALL ALSO. THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OVER THERE. MAYBE ONE THERE. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD GIVE THEM FOUR. THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING AS WELL THAT YOU, AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ALSO AT LEAST THAT, NO, THEY'LL DO TOURNAMENTS THERE. MM-HMM . I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE LIKE WANTING TO DO. RIGHT. 'CAUSE THE ONE THAT I'M THINKING OF THAT'S PRETTY POPULAR IS ON MORGAN SPUR. YEAH. THERE'S ONLY ONE. RIGHT. IT'S OFF THE STREET THOUGH. IT'S VISIBLE. IT'S POPULAR. SO MAYBE, LIKEWISE, MAYBE NOT PUTTING IT BACK BEHIND A BUILDING. RIGHT. BUT MAYBE PUTTING IT CLOSER TO THE FRONT. BUT WE NEED MORE THAN ONE. I WAS GONNA SAY, IF YOU DO TOURNAMENTS, THEY NEED, THERE'S THAT ONE IN HOUSTON. MY DAUGHTER, WELL I'M THINK FOUR. WE GO PLAY THERE. FOUR OR FIVE OF 'EM. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. I THINK ONE THING THAT'S CLEAR IS WE'VE GOT A LOT OF IDEAS WE MIGHT NEED MORE. PARKLAND . THAT WORKS. BILL. NOPE. ANYTHING ELSE YOU GOT OUT THERE FOR US? WE KNOW WHERE IT IS. YEAH. LAND RIGHT HERE. YEAH. SO, OKAY. SO WE LIKE THE COURTS OVER AT, OVER AT, UH, IRENE STERN TRY TO FIT IN SOME SAND VOLLEYBALL THERE. UM, BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT, THAT PARK SPACE, UH, WE TRY TO LEAVE OUT SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW MAYBE THE BUILDING IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT, THAT BUILDING'S USE IS LONG TERM. UM, BUT IS THERE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT BUILDING? WOULD, WOULD THE PARKS BOARD PREFER TO SEE IT AS A RENTED OUT EVENT SPACE? WHICH IT STILL, WHAT KIND KIND OF SHAPE IS THE BUILDING IN FIRST? STRUCTURALLY? WHAT DO YOU STRUCTURALLY PRIMROSE OR IRENE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IRENE STERN. OH. HAVEN'T PAY ANYTHING FOR MAINTENANCE. SO WE NEED TO BACK THERE BEHIND THE FOOD GROUND. WELL, OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE REPAINTED THE INSIDE. UM, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA REPAINT THE OUTSIDE PRETTY SOON. ALL THE CEILING TILES HAVE BEEN REPLACED. HOW'S THE ROOF? I THINK THE ROOF'S IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. I THINK THE AC HASS ALSO BEEN REPLACED MORE RECENTLY TOO. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT'S ON IT FOR YEARS AND JUST NEVER DECIDED ON DOING THAT. IS THERE A RESTROOM OUT THERE ALREADY? THERE IS. THERE'S ONE INSIDE AND ONE EXTERIOR. SPEAKING OF WHICH, THAT RESTROOM NEEDS A GOOD COAT OF POLYURETHANE ON IT BEFORE IT GETS DESTROYED. THE EXTERIOR. THE MURAL. THE MURAL. YEAH, THE MURAL. UM, WHAT ABOUT LIKE A CONCESSION STAND? NOT, NOT EXACTLY LIKE A, JUST A CONCESSION STAND, BUT IF WE'RE ABOUT TO PUT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 TENNIS COURTS AND A BUNCH OF PICKLEBALL COURTS, SOMETHING FOR THEM TO UTILIZE. LIKE, AGAIN, NOT CONCESSION STAND AT TENNIS PRACTICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. SOMETHING OR COURT COURT. A FOOD TRUCK PARK. RIGHT? YEAH. WE, THERE'S A, SO IF YOU'RE GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, THIS SORT OF FIFTH TENNIS COURT TO THE RIGHT, JUST BELOW THAT, THERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH WE, WE JUST USE A STORAGE FOR SOME EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW. UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT SAME BUILDING, ALTHOUGH IT COULD BE THAT BUILDING IS AN INTERIM UNTIL MAYBE SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE. BUT THAT, THAT COULD BE A SPACE FOR THAT EXACT PURPOSE. YEAH. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE USING THAT STORAGE IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. YOU'RE GONNA MOVE EVERYTHING DOWN SOUTH RIGHT OFF OF MCKENNA. THAT'S RIGHT. OR, OR, UH, WE COULD HAVE A, MAYBE A SATELLITE STORAGE OPPORTUNITY AT PRIMROSE PARK, WHICH AGAIN, JUST RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. 'CAUSE IT'LL BE A BIGGER PARK. YES. UM, BUT I THINK FOR THE BUILDING, OF COURSE THE SENIORS SENIOR CENTERS THERE NOW, I THINK LONG TERM THE SENIOR CENTER COULD STAY THERE. YEAH. UM, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. COULD HAVE COMMUNITY MEETING ROOMS, COULD, COULD PROGRAM FOR THE COURTS. UM, BUT WHICH [00:35:01] WOULD STILL PROVIDE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR RENTALS. BUT THAT MIGHT TAKE A DIFFERENT FORM THAN IT DOES NOW IF THE SPACE OF REC PRIMROSES OR WITHIN PRIMROSES PARK BECOMES MORE OF A HEAVIER EVENT SPACE. UM, AND I LIKE THE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT EVELYN PARK, BEAUTIFUL PARK. MM-HMM . UH, BUT THAT, UH, BUILDING COULD BE, AGAIN, EVENTS, UH, COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT FULL HISTORY. UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT ANYWHERE ELSE RIGHT NOW. SO WHATEVER WE'VE GOTTEN ON THE WALLS IN THE BUILDINGS, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S MORE IN DOWNTOWN. IT'S NEXT TO THE CITY'S MAIN PARK. IT'S NEXT TO THE AMPHITHEATER. I THINK A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE SYMBIOTIC AT THAT, AT THAT PARTICULAR PLACE. ALSO, IT'D BE SOMETHING IF WE NEED TO USE SOMETHING TO UH, FEED PEOPLE IF THERE WAS A NATURAL DISASTER OR SOMETHING, WE CAN OH, OVER THERE. MM-HMM . WE NEED TO HAVE A KITCHEN THAT'S BIG ENOUGH TO SUPPLY WITH WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT SOMEPLACE OTHER THAN POSSIBLY DO IN THE KITCHEN DONE RIGHT. SCHOOL NECESSARILY HAVE QUESTION. I HATE TO INTERRUPT THE PARKS AND REC, BUT TODAY IS CHURCHILL CHARD, JUNIOR'S BIRTHDAY. OOH. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. WE HAD THE RY HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION HERE AND THEY HAVE BROUGHT US A CAKE. WOW. JUST BY WOW. DIVINE PROVIDENCE. WE'RE HAVING OUR PARKS AND S IS ALL ABOUT AND WHAT HE DID. AND WE LIKE TO DO A QUICK PICTURE OF THOSE. WE HAD A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE TOO, UH, IN FRONT OF OUR THING. IF WE COULD INTERRUPT JUST FOR A MOMENT. SURE. WOULD THAT BE OKAY? THE CHAIRPERSON? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. DO I NEED TO DO ANYTHING OFFICIALLY CALL JUST RECESSION? YES. OKAY. DO WE CALL A RECESS? WE CALL A RECESS AT NINE THIRTY EIGHT FOR A QUICK PHOTOGRAPH. ALRIGHT. I'M SO GLAD YOU GUYS DID THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THIS OUT SOCIAL. THANK YOU LADIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH Y'ALL. BYE-BYE. OKAY. WE WILL RECONVENE OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MEETING AT 9 46. THANK YOU. UH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY PERFECT 'CAUSE I WAS STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THAT BUILDING SPACE IN PRIMOS PARK AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT FULL HISTORY. AND, UH, I REGRET TO INFORM, I DID NOT, I WAS NOT EVEN AWARE THAT TODAY WAS CHURCHILL FULL CHURCH'S BIRTHDAY, BUT THAT WAS FITTING. UM, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY IT. SO I MEAN, IN THINKING ABOUT THAT, THERE'S NOT A PLACE TO TALK ABOUT RE'S HISTORY REALLY AT ANY GREAT SCALE. BUT THINK ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING LARGER EVENTS WITH RE HISTORY ON THE WALLS AND CASES, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE USED IN DISASTER SITUATIONS AS WELL. GOOD QUESTION. UM, WOULD THE SWITCH HOUSE, THE SECTION HOUSE HAS THAT, I KNOW THERE WAS A MOMENT THAT SOMEONE WAS GOING TO PUT IT OVER THERE ON THE OLD WOODEN PROPERTY. HAS THAT ANYTHING COME OF THAT? UH, FROM, UH, FRANCIS MAR PARK? UM, SO ANDERSON SMITH HAD, HAD VERBALLY AGREED TO DO THAT. UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED SOMETHING WHICH WOULD'VE GIVE, LIKE, REQUIRED HIM TO MOVE IT. UH, BUT IT WAS EFFECTIVE UPON HIS SIGNATURE. BUT OF COURSE HE'S NOT GOING TO SIGN IT UNTIL HE'S READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. UH, BUT IF YOU'VE SEEN MORE RECENTLY THAT OLD AUTOCARE PLACE HAS BEEN TORN DOWN. SOME OF THE TREES HAVE BEEN CLEARED. SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT THAT AGAIN. UM, BUT I JUST, THAT'S AN IDEAL BUILDING FOR HISTORICAL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW MM-HMM . I MEAN, AND THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE IT FALLS APART. SO YEAH. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S GETTING TOUGHER AND TOUGHER. RANDY CONNOR AND I HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, VISITED WITH BOB GORDON ABOUT THAT. UM, AND SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO DEVIATE. I JUST THINKING OF HISTORICAL LOCATIONS. NO, WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT. UH, BUT IN THIS CONTEXT, IT'S NOT PROBABLY GOING TO PRIMROSE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . EVERYONE AGREE? YES. OKAY. . UM, AND NOW JUST TO, TO, TO WRAP UP HERE. SO WE'LL THINK ABOUT SAND VOLLEYBALL. WE WILL, UH, MAYBE GET SOME MORE IDEAS PUT TOGETHER ABOUT THE BUILDING SPACES, BOTH, BOTH AREAS. UM, I'M THINKING, I'M HEARING WE CAN PROBABLY BACK OUT THE PICKLEBALL FROM PRIMROSE. MAYBE THINK ABOUT SOME MORE PARKING THERE. UH, WE'LL BETTER SHOW A TRAIL CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION. WE'LL PINPOINT THE EXISTING MATURE TREES AND ALL THE ONES THAT I THINK ARE VERY, VERY MUCH SAVEABLE. UM, WE'LL TAKE THAT HALF COURT TO A FULL COURT BASKETBALL AND THEN, AND STOP ME THERE IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING. WILD WILDFLOWERS, WILDFLOWERS, THAT, THAT PARTICULAR AREA. ANYTHING ELSE? EQUESTRIAN AND THEN GOING SOUTH, SOME EQUESTRIAN OPPORTUNITIES. UM, DISC GOLF, DISC GOLF. I THINK THAT'S, DID WE HAVE DISC GOLF LABELED HERE? IT'S ON THERE. IT'S ON, I THINK IT'S ON THE SECOND SHEET. SO, BUT, BUT, UH, JUST NOTE THE FIRST SHEET, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE DISC GOLF, BUT IT COULD BE EASILY ADDED, IS THE ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY, ANY PARK USES FOR NOW WEST OF STRATMAN ROAD. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A DESIRE TO PRESERVE SOME OF THAT, OR I GUESS AS MUCH AS NEARLY ALL OF IT FOR CATTLE GRAZING FOR THE TIME BEING. UM, BUT ANYTHING ELSE DOWN THERE BESIDES EQUESTRIAN? [00:40:02] I, I MEAN YOU'VE GOT NATURAL AREAS FOR BIRDWATCHING, BUT I'D BE MIND VERY MINDFUL OF THAT BECAUSE IT IS VERY WELL KNOWN DOWN THERE. I MEAN, RED BIRD LANE WAS NAMED BECAUSE THERE WAS, THERE WERE SO MANY BIRDS BY BIRD WATCHERS. IN FACT, WE'VE ALWAYS, AGAIN, I'M GONNA DEVIATE A LITTLE, TALKED ABOUT DOING A BOARDWALK SORT OF, UM, A BOARDWALK THROUGH THAT AREA IN THE SLEW WHERE THE SLEW IS. MM-HMM . FOR BIRDWATCHING BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE ARE A LOT OF UNUSUAL BIRDS BACK THERE. IT, WE HAVE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE LANDOWNER THERE ABOUT A POTENTIAL PARK OPPORTUNITY. UM, THAT'S NOT BEEN, UH, IT'S NOT PROCEEDED YET, BUT IT, I MEAN, IT COULD CONNECT. WE, WE ALWAYS WANNA TRY TO CONNECT ALL THESE PARK SPACES, BUT, UM, JUST, AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO LOOK OVER THERE WAS NOT JUST FOR BIRDWATCHING, BUT UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SITE OF A, UH, FREEDMAN'S BASICALLY COMMUNITY DOWN THERE NEAR THE PLEASANT HILL CHURCH THAT'S DOWN THERE. SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF TALK ABOUT THAT HISTORY AS WELL. UM, AND, AND THE NA NATURAL HISTORY THAT'S IN THIS AREA, CLOSE TO THE RIVER TOO. BUT ANYTHING BESIDES EQUESTRIAN SURE. WE'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING. OKAY. . AND IF YOU DO, LEMME KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL SORT OF FINE TUNE SOME OF THESE. UM, GO FROM LINE DRAWINGS TO MORE CONCEPT IMAGES SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, A LITTLE MORE COLOR BASED UPON YOUR FEEDBACK. AND THEN START PUTTING SOME COST ESTIMATES ON THESE THINGS AS WELL. BECAUSE ALL OF THIS HAS A COST. AND AS WE TALK ABOUT COST ESTIMATES, WHAT DO WE TRIAGE, UH, AND HOW DO WE FUND? SO I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION. UH, THINKING ABOUT FOUR SOFTBALL, UH, SOFTBALL FIELDS INSTEAD OF BASEBALL FIELDS, WHAT'S REALLY THE DIFFERENCE? I THINK JUST SIZE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SOFTBALL BASED. YES. WHY WOULDN'T YOU MAKE 'EM ALL BASEBALL FIELDS AND THEN SOFTBALL CAN STILL USE 'EM. ANYONE ELSE? SO WITH SOFTBALL YOU NEED A FLAT PITCHING MOUND VERSUS BASEBALL. IT NEEDS TO BE A MOUND. UM, AND SO WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF SOFTBALL GROUPS RENTING OUR FIELD D AT PRIMROSE PARK. AND SO THERE IS A LARGE SOFTBALL COMMUNITY THAT'S LOOKING FOR FIELDS. SO IN A WAY, PRIMROSE WOULD BE MORE OF THE BASEBALL PARK. AND THEN THIS REGIONAL PARK COULD BE MORE OF A SOFTBALL PARK FOR THOSE PEOPLE. SO IF WE DO THIS ONE, THEN WE DO A MOUND ON THE OTHER ONE. AND WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE MORE BASEBALL FIELDS. SO FOR THE REGIONAL PARK AREA, IT WOULD BE FLAT. IT WOULD NOT HAVE A MOUND. WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET, UM, THERE'S LIKE MOVABLE MOUNDS, LIKE YOU CAN PUT THEM OUT. BUT WE WOULD MAKE THESE FIELDS FLAT FOR THE SOFTBALL GROUPS, WHICH I GUESS ALSO WORKED FOR T-BALL. RIGHT. WHICH IS GIVING YOU EIGHT COURSE EIGHT FIELDS FOR BASE FOR SOFTBALL DOWN THERE. AND YOU HAVE FOUR FIELDS FOR BASEBALL AND GRIM ROADS. CORRECT. AND THERE'S A LOT MORE NEED FOR BASEBALL THAN THERE IS FOR SOFTBALL. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. LITTLE LEAGUES. THERE'S A LOT MORE NEED FOR BASEBALL FIELDS. I WILL SAY I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF SOFTBALL REQUESTS SO FAR. SO THE GIRLS, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S PROBABLY HOLD OUT THERE, BUT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP CO BECAUSE OF IT TOO. MAYBE WE BUILT SOME BASEBALL FIELDS AND SOFTBALL FIELDS HERE. WE DO ALSO HAVE DAILY PARK. I MEAN IT'S NOT OURS, BUT DAILY PARKS BEING BUILT WITH FOUR BASEBALL FIELDS. YEAH. PLUS MORE. YEAH. THERE'S ALSO BRAZOS LITTLE LEAGUE THAT JUST MORE IN THE VICINITY OF BASEBALL THAN THERE IS SOFTBALL. A LOT MORE. THERE'S ONLY SOFTBALL FIELD. OKAY, NO PROBLEM. JUST WONDERING. WE GOOD ON THAT? YEAH. YEAH. YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO C ALRIGHT, WELL, SO WE'LL TAKE ALL THESE COMMENTS BACK. LIKE I SAID, WE'LL KEEP VISITING WITH, UH, MR. DALTON HERE AND TRY TO MOVE SOME STUFF FORWARD. I THINK FOR MR. DALTON IT'S GONNA AGAIN BE TIMING AND FUNDING. AND SO I THINK OUR EFFORTS AS A CITY IS TO NOT JUST LOOK AT OUR, OUR OWN REVENUES, OUR OWN TAXES, BUT HOPEFULLY PARTNER WITH SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WHETHER IT'S THE LITTLE LEAGUE OR HTX SOCIAL SPORTS, WHO, WHOMEVER IT IS TO HELP MAKE SURE THESE SPACES CAN HOPEFULLY GET BUILT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I WAS, UH, SLIGHTLY JOKING, BUT WITH MR. ROWLAND JUST A SECOND AGO, MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF THESE TRAILS, IF THEY'RE CONCRETE TRAILS COULD GET BUILT AT, YOU KNOW, JUST IN, IN, UH, IN SHORT SEGMENTS WORKING WITH BUILDERS AND OTHER OTHERS THAT MIGHT, MIGHT BE DOWN THERE ALREADY BUILDING THAT HAVE EXTRA CONCRETE. UM, BUT OF COURSE LEAVING AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR NATURAL T TRAILS AS WELL. PLEASE. YEP. I ANTICIPATED THAT. NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ITEM [Business - C] C, BESSIE'S PARK DISCUSSION OF WHAT BESSIES CREEK PARK PLANS ARE UPDATES FROM CITY STAFF REGARDING POTENTIAL GRANT FUNDING TO START THE BESSIES CREEK PARK PROJECT. IS THAT YOU KELLY? YEAH, THAT'S ME. OKAY. SO THIS IS THE RENDERING FROM THE 2024 PARKS AND PATHWAYS MASTER PLAN. SO THIS IS THE CURRENT PLAN FOR BESSIE'S CREEK. SO THIS LAND, UH, WE RECENTLY JUST GOT THE DEED FOR IT. SO WE ARE GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PLANS IN THE FUTURE. SO THE PLAN FOR THIS SPACE [00:45:01] IS A LARGE TRAIL LOOP WITH NATIVE WILDFLOWERS AND OTHER PLANTS AS WELL AS A PIER BOARDWALK NEAR BESSIE'S CREEK. AND WHEN IT'S FILLED WITH OTHER WATER, PEOPLE COULD POTENTIALLY FISH AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE SOME FITNESS ZONES AND PICNIC AREAS. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF THIS SPACE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? ARE WE DOING A FLOATING PIER OR ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE FLOATING. NO. WE BUILT A FLOATING PIER OVER AT SEABORN CREEK PARK THAT'S BEEN VERY POPULAR AND SUCCESSFUL AND IT FLOATS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, WATER LEVEL. SO I THINK PART OF WHAT THE PIER WILL END UP BEING IS WHEN WE WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CORPS AND SEEING WHAT THEY'LL ALLOW AND PERMIT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BIG RESTRICTOR RIGHT NOW. 'CAUSE WE JUST STARTED CONVERSATIONS SINCE WE GOT THE DEED AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE GRANT PROCESS, WHAT THE CORPS WILL ALLOW US TO DO IN THIS SPACE. WHICH CORPS THE US ARMY ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER. THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, CORRECT? WELL, THEY WE DID IT AT SEABORN CREEK IN ROSENBURG, SO RIGHT. AND IT'S JUST REALLY ON HOW THEY SEE THIS AREA AND WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO ON IT. OKAY. AND THE CORPS REALLY HAS THEIR OWN THINGS THAT THEY GO BY. GOT IT. SO JUST BECAUSE THEY DO IT IN ONE PLACE DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL ALLOW IT IN ANOTHER PLACE. THEY BUILT A SLEW ON REDBIRD, SO, AND IF THEY ALLOW US TO, WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT, BUT WE'RE AT THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF STARTING THAT PERMIT PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHERE'S THIS AT? I CAN'T SEE THAT ON THE MAP REAL QUICK. 3 59 AND YOU KNOW WHERE PEON RIDGE SOUTH OF, IN BETWEEN PECAN RIDGE AND DELL WEBB. UM, BUT THE BACK OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS BASICALLY. CORRECT. OKAY, COOL. SORRY MR. CONNOR. UM, A LITTLE UPDATE. I MET THIS MANAGEMENT YESTERDAY. OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. UH, I WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE IS SOMETHING I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY. THIS KIND OF DOVETAILS A LITTLE BIT WITH THE EAGLE ISSUE THAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH BACK OF PECAN RIDGE AND BACK OF DALE WEBB. I MET WITH THE DELL WEBB PEOPLE YESTERDAY. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THEY MAY NOT ACQUIRE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AS A RESULT OF THE EAGLE SITUATION. THIS MAY OPEN UP AN OPPORTUNITY NOW THAT PROPERTY WOULD STILL BE OWNED BY MR. WATERS, THAT MAY OPEN UP AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT PROPERTY. SOMETHING, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT OPEN UP, UP AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GO TO MR. WATERS AND SAY, WOULD YOU CONSIDER PART OF THIS AS A DONATION FOR A PARK OR AN ACQUISITION AT A, A FAIR VALUE? I'M NOT SURE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT, THAT THAT SITUATION IS NOW IN FLUX. NICE. YEAH. HOW ANGRY AT IS HE AT US? SO WE'LL JUST SEE WHERE IT TAKES US, BUT, UH, DALE WEBB WAS PROBABLY GONNA LOSE ABOUT 40, UH, RESIDENTIAL LOTS AS A RESULT OF THAT TREE BEING WHERE IT IS. SO THAT, THAT MAY BE GOOD. GOOD, GOOD. OKAY. GOOD. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARK PLAN AS RIGHT NOW? THAT LOOKS GOOD. LOVE IT. OKAY. SO WITH THE SECOND ITEM, UM, MATTHEW, DAVID AND I AND A FEW OTHER STAFF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, A GRANT LIKE APPLYING TO A GRANT FOR THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT. IT IS SPECIFICALLY A NON-URBAN OUTDOOR PARKS GRANT. UM, SO WE'VE BEEN COMPILING LOTS OF PAPERWORK, TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS FUNDED. IT WOULD BE A 50% REIMBURSEMENT MATCH, UM, TO KIND OF GET THIS BALL ROLLING ON THIS PARK IN PARTICULAR. UH, WE WOULD KNOW MORE IN JANUARY IF WE WERE AWARDED THAT AMOUNT. AND THEN WE ARE BRINGING A RESOLUTION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE 21ST TO APPLY TO THE GRANT. SO IF THAT IS ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH APPLYING TO THE GRANT. NON-URBAN, ARE WE, ARE WE NON URBAN NOW? YES, IT'S BASED OFF OF POPULATION. OKAY. YEAH, SO WE'RE IN THE NON-URBAN OKAY. . YEAH. GO. YEAH. YEP. GREAT. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, KELLY. ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. ITEM D ITEMS [Business - D] OF COMMUNITY INTEREST UPDATE THAT THE CALL TO ARTISTS FOR THE MURAL AT PRIMROSE PARK WILL BE RELEASED IN JULY. YES. SO, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CASSIE FROM FINANCE ON THIS. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THE CALL TO ARTISTS WILL BE POSTED EITHER BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK OR EARLY THE WEEK AFTER. AND THEN THAT WILL BE OPEN FOR ABOUT A MONTH AND A WEEK FOR ARTISTS TO SUBMIT THEIR, UM, APPLICATIONS, ESSENTIALLY TO BE THE MURALIST FOR OUR PARK. AND I'VE ACTUALLY COMPILED A LOT OF DIFFERENT MURALIST EMAILS TO GIVE TO CASSIE TO SOLICIT IT AS WELL. SO BE ON THE LOOKOUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL AS WE POST THAT FOR THE ARTIST. WELL HOLD ON. OKAY. WHAT, WHERE'S EVANGELINE ROYER WITH OH, FULL CORRECTIONS. OH, SHE'S, SHE'S WORKING WITH US IN, YEAH, WE'RE GOOD. YEAH, I HAVE, IT [00:50:01] SOUNDED LIKE WE WERE DOING IT OURSELVES. SHE STARTED THIS AND I WOULD, YEAH, NO, SHE'S, SHE'S WORKING WITH US. SHE'S GONNA BE ON THE LIKE STAFF, UM, JUDGING PANEL. PERFECT. YEAH. THANK YOU. EVALUATION PANEL. SO WE'RE GOOD. I'VE TALKED TO HER. WE'RE ALL GOOD. GOOD? YES. UM, WONDERFUL. GREAT NEWS. UM, AND WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT, UM, IF WE DO KEEP THAT BUILDING AT THE STERN CENTER ABOUT A MURAL ON THAT BUILDING. MM-HMM . WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR YEARS. WE'VE JUST NEVER DONE IT. WHAT'S THAT? WE COULD DEFINITELY USE ONE ON THE BACK ON THE SIDE OR EVEN WHEREVER THEY COULD PUT IT TO IT. LOOK, YEAH. MURALS ANYWHERE IS, ARE GREAT MURALS EVERYWHERE. ART IS GREAT. LOTS OF MURALS. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT IT? YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, [Business - E] ITEM E MONTHLY PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET, FINANCIAL REPORT, DISCUSSION OF ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ANY SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS? AND LEAH, OUR FINANCIAL GODDESSES OUT TODAY, , GET A BREAK. RIGHT? BASICALLY WE NEED A LOT MORE MONEY. TAKE ALL THE MONEY WE NEED. RIGHT? ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT? I DON'T. NO. NO. JASON? KEN. NO. I LOOKED THROUGH IT THE OTHER DAY. YEAH. ALL [Business - F] RIGHT. ITEM F, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DISCUSSION OF FUTURE PARKS AND RECREATION RELATED TOPICS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS. I THINK WE ALL NEED TO GO HOME AND, AND PLAY WITH THIS AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN THINK OF. AND AS YOU'RE LYING IN BED TRYING TO GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT AND THAT IDEA POPS IN YOUR HEAD AND MAYBE REVISIT IT NEXT MONTH AND SEE WHAT, WHAT WE'VE THOUGHT OF. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD PLAN? YEAH. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKLETS. WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THOSE? OH, I CAN ADD PARKLETS BACK ONTO THE AGENDA, BUT I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT 'EM FOR A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. IT WAS MOSTLY JUST TO ASK, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO BUDGET FOR IN THE FUTURE? SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO FUNDING TO DO PARKLETS, BUT WE DID GET THE CONSENSUS THAT THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT 'EM, WE DID SAY WE DO WANNA TALK ABOUT 'EM AND WE'LL PUT 'EM ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME. YES. TO TALK MORE ABOUT 'EM, I GUESS. OKAY. COOL. MM-HMM . OKAY, GO AHEAD. WE DID BUDGET A LITTLE BIT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. RIGHT NOW, OF COURSE THAT BUDGET'S NOT BEEN APPROVED. WE JUST PRESENTED AT THE FIRST DRAFT BUDGET, UH, JUST THIS WEEK ON TUESDAY, BUT THAT INCLUDED SOME DOLLARS FOR PARKLETS. UM, SO THAT'S IN THERE RIGHT NOW, UM, FROM THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND, BUT NOT AT PRESENT TIME. THERE'S NO MONEY. WELL, AND AGAIN, ZACH, YOU CAN TELL ME IF IT'S A KEEP RE BEAUTIFUL THING OR A PARKS THING, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO, AND I KNOW THAT WATER TREATMENT PLANT DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO BE MOVED IN A FEW YEARS, BUT IT'S IN A FEW YEARS TO PLANT SOME KIND OF NICE SHRUBBERY AROUND IT IN THE MEANTIME. MIGHT HELP WITH THE ODOR A LITTLE BIT TOO. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA GET SOME TREES DONATED. I CAN DONATED. UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS FINE. SO, OKAY. SO WE DON'T NEED IT ON THE AGENDA. WE'LL JUST DO, DO IT WITH KEY CULTURE. BEAUTIFUL. IF YOU WANT IT ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. BUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S, UH, ALSO PROGRAMMED IN RIGHT NOW TO THE DRAFT BUDGET IS AT LEAST SOME DOLLARS TO BE DEDICATED TOWARDS, UH, LANDSCAPING ON THE WEST PARK TOLLWAY. YEAH. WE, IN THE PAST, THROUGH PARK SPORT, I REMEMBER BACK 2019, THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE DID SOME WILDFLOWER SEEDING, IF YOU REMEMBER. UH, THEN A COUPLE YEARS LATER WE DID THE NEXT SEGMENT. OF COURSE, NOW THAT'S ALL, IT'S ALL PAVEMENT GONE, BUT THERE'S ALSO STILL OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO STILL DO MORE, MORE, MORE SEEDING, MORE MORE LANDSCAPING IN GENERAL. MORE TREE PLANTING AS WELL. IVY UP THE SIDES OF THE CONCRETE. MM-HMM . I KNOW THEY ALLOWED IT IN HOUSTON. SO MAYBE HERE, ALL THOSE THINGS. MM-HMM . DOES THAT NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA? I'M NOT SURE IF IT, IT, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS YOURS FROM . I KNOW, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHO, IF YOU WANTED TO BE KEY FOLKS, BEAUTIFUL. OR PARKS. IT'S, IT'S, WELL, WE HAVE SOME KEY FOLKS ARE BEAUTIFUL DOLLARS THIS YEAR. YEAH. BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA GO VERY FAR. UM, IT'S ENOUGH FOR SOME PLANTS, IT COULD GET SOME PLANTS, IT COULD HELP PUT TOGETHER A LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR THE TOLLWAY. IF THAT WASN'T DONATED BY ANYBODY, THEN WE COULD MAYBE PUT IT IN THAT EFFORT. SO MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE COULD DO, SO THAT WAY WE, WE HAVE A BETTER DEFINED PLAN OF WHAT WE BUDGET FOR. OKAY. UM, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA ON OUR NEXT AGENDAS? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. NO, I HAD A QUESTION. IS THE IDEA OF THE, HAVING THESE MAJOR EVENTS, LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY EVENT AT PRIMROSE PARK, IS THAT A PART, PART OF, SO THE 4TH OF JULY EVENT THAT HAPPENED IN SHORE WAS ACTUALLY RUN BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UM, THIS YEAR. SO THE CITY [00:55:01] DOESN'T PUT THAT ON CURRENTLY. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE CHAMBER OF WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THAT EVENT IN THE FUTURE. BUT WOULD WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING AND STUFF TO HAVE THAT KIND OF EVENT? THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH PARKING . THERE ISN'T. I KNOW NEVER. BUT LIKE HAVING VENTS SU LIKE SUCH, I I THINK POTENTIALLY WITH PHASE THREE, MAYBE WITH PHASE THREE PLUS ALSO YOU COULD USE A, IF THE SCHOOL ALLOWED, WE COULD USE THE SCHOOL PARKING AND JUST HAVE A LITTLE SHUTTLE GOING BACK AND FORTH THINGS TOO. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE FOREVER AND NEVER AND EVER. YEAH. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A SMALLER, EVEN WHEN WE CLOSE THE INTERSECTION DOWNTOWN OFF, OFF, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE. YEAH. BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE FUTURE AGENDAS? NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF ANYBODY. MM-HMM. ALL RIGHT. WELL OTHERWISE, IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO TURN I MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10 0 5. THANK YOU. I'M EATING MY CAKE NOW. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.