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[00:00:08]

ALL RIGHT.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SIX O'CLOCK ON THE DOT.

WANNA WELCOME

[ Call to Order ]

EVERYONE HERE THIS EVENING.

SO THANKS TO THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR BEING HERE.

UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, ECK PINON AND JENNIFER ARE UNABLE TO BE WITH US THIS EVENING, BUT THE REMAINDER OF THE BOARD AND OUR EX-OFFICIO, UH, MEMBER IS HERE.

AND WELCOME TO THE GUESTS WE HAVE IN THE AUDIENCE.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE TONIGHT.

WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE STER DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ON MONDAY, OCTOBER THE 20TH, 2025 AT 6:00 PM HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO.

NO? OKAY.

[ Business - A]

WE'LL GO TO OUR REGULAR BUSINESS.

UH, ITEM THREE, THREE A IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MINUTES OF THE CORPORATION FOR THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025 MEETING.

SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE MEETING MINUTES IN YOUR PACKET.

HOPEFULLY YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THROUGH THOSE.

AND IF THERE AREN'T ANY CHANGES OR COMMENTS, REVISIONS, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE MINUTE MAKING MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, UH, EDC BOARD B MEETING WAS LISTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

MOTIONS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 15TH MEETING.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.

[ Business - B]

THREE B IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE FINANCIALS AND PAYABLES FOR THE CORPORATION FOR THE PERIOD ENDING AUGUST 31ST, 2025.

LOOKS LIKE HAYDEN, YOU'RE UP AT THE MIC.

YES.

UM, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SALES TAX NUMBERS, UH, IN TIME TO PUT IN THE PACKET.

I DID PRINT OUT THE, UH, MONTHLY CHART FOR YOU GUYS.

UM, BUT FOR OUR OCTOBER COLLECTIONS, WHICH WOULD BE THE AUGUST, UM, UH, SALES TAX, OR, I'M SORRY, THE AUGUST SALES TAX REVENUES, UM, SALES TAX WAS UP 16.62% FROM THIS TIME LAST YEAR, UH, WHICH TOTALED ONE, UH, $171,948 AND 35 CENTS, UH, PER BOARD.

UM, EACH CORPORATION'S REVENUE IS NOW TOTAL $2,021,093 AND 88 CENTS, OR 99.33% OF THE BUDGET, 92% OF THE YEAR.

UM, AND THEN JUST TRADITIONALLY, SEPTEMBER IS OUR BIGGEST SALES TAX COLLECTION MONTH.

SO WE SHOULD LOOK AT AROUND, UM, 11 TO 12% INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR'S REVENUES.

SO WE WILL SEE NEXT MONTH.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DO, DO WE EVER LOOK AT THE SALES TAX IN TERMS OF, WE, WE KINDA LOOK AT A VARIANCE, UH, YEAR OVER YEAR, BUT DO WE, DO WE EVER LOOK AT IT KIND OF POPULATION ADJUSTED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE DON'T TRADITIONALLY, BUT WE CAN, UM, KIND OF SEE IF WE CAN APPLY THAT TO HOW THE GROWTH HAS GONE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

JUST, JUST INTERESTED IF IT'S SURE.

GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT RELATED OR JUST, JUST GROWTH.

OKAY.

SURE.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

IF, UH, THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME REIMBURSABLES TO CONSIDER FOR THE CITY AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S ON PAGE 17.

YEAH.

UM, I'M JUST LOOKING UP.

IT'S, UH, $15,915 AND 23 CENTS.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UM, THE PAYABLES WITH THE PERIOD ENDING AUGUST 31ST, 2025 IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,915 AND 23 CENTS.

SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED TO APPROVE OUR PAYABLES.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION?

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ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.

IF, IF THE BOARD HAS NO OBJECTION, I'D LIKE TO MOVE UP.

UH,

[ Recurring Items - A (Part 1 of 2)]

ITEM A PORTION OF ITEM FOUR A FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE REPORT.

UH, MATTHEW RILEY HAS STAYED, UH, TODAY WITH US TO GIVE US AN UPDATE AND, UH, THAT WAY HE COULD, UH, MAYBE GET OUTTA HERE ONCE HE'S DONE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

SO, PAVING FOR PHASE ONE IS ALMOST COMPLETE.

UH, THE SECOND STREET, UH, INTERSECTION WAS POURED LAST WEEK.

SIDEWALKS WERE POURED.

ONLY THING REMAINING IS THE CROSSWALKS, THE STAMP COLORED CONCRETE.

UH, WE, WE ORDERED THE INSERTER VALVE FOR THE FIFTH STREET WATERLINE.

IT WAS INSTALLED, WE TESTED IT.

TODAY EVERYTHING HOLDS, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PUMP STATION AND COMPLETE PHASE ONE ENTIRELY.

SO I WAS CURIOUS, WHAT IS THAT ANYWAY? SO IT'S FOR THE DETENTION POND.

OH, OKAY.

THE TEMPORARY PUMP STATIONED, UH, OKAY.

YOU KNOW.

COOL.

SO NEXT COUPLE WEEKS SHOULD BE ABLE TO INSTALL THAT.

UM, YEAH, SO THE CROSSWALKS, PEDESTRIAN RAMPS, PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY REMAINING ITEMS FOR PHASE ONE.

AS FAR AS THE SANITARY SEWER, IT WAS INSTALLED FROM FIFTH FIFTH STREET TO FOURTH STREET, WHICH IS MOST OF THE PHASE TWO AREA.

JUST THE FOURTH STREET TO THE JTM CONSTRUCTION DRIVEWAY IS THE ONLY, UH, PORTION THAT REMAINS OF THAT.

AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY WAITING ON A CHANGE ORDER FOR DAYS FROM THE CONTRACTOR, WHICH WILL, I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT.

THIS WITH ANELLE AND HAYDEN EARLIER, KIND OF DECREASED THAT DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE AMOUNT EXPENSE AND COMPLETE BASED ON DAYS.

SO, UH, JUST DEPENDING ON HOW MANY DAYS THEY ASK FOR, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM AND KIND OF DECIDE WHAT, WHAT'S DESERVING, YOU KNOW, BASED ON DELAYS THAT THEY COULDN'T CONTROL AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO, UH, YOU'LL SEE I CAME UP WITH A NUMBER, 40% COMPLETE ON ACTUAL PROGRESS.

UH, JUST 'CAUSE WE'VE MOVED INTO PHASE TWO NOW.

UH, SO WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED SOME ITEMS ALREADY IN THAT PHASE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, KIND OF THE ROUGH NUMBER THAT WE CAME UP WITH FOR ACTUAL PROGRESS.

UH, CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH PAY APP EIGHT RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT WILL, I, I RAN THE NUMBERS EARLIER.

THAT WILL PUT US RIGHT AT 40% AFTER THAT'S PROCESSED BASED ON, UH, DOLLARS.

THANK YOU.

SO GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL COMPLETION DATE, NOVEMBER MIDDLE NOVEMBER WAS 17TH, SO I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE.

SEVEN NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH WAS, AND THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.

IS THAT CORRECT? OR JUST PHASE ONE? WELL, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THREE.

ALL ALL THREE PHASES.

ALL THREE.

OKAY.

LITTLE BIT CONCERN THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, I MEAN THAT, OKAY, THEY'RE COMING TO THE TABLE PUTTING IT TO, TO THE, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INVOICING YOU BASED, BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY DOING, WHICH IS CONCERNING BECAUSE I'M HALF EXPECTING YOU TO GO SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THAT BASED, BASED ON, UM, EXPERIENCE.

WE'VE EFFECTIVELY SAID MY 40% THROUGH, BUT WE'VE, THE OVERALL TIME IT'S GONNA TAKE TO, TO COMPLETE THE ACTUAL JOB AS, AS, AS OF CONCERN BASED, BASED ON THE TOTAL HOURS SPENT.

SO YOU'RE GONNA BLOW IT, BLOW OUT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR TALLY THERE.

I GUESS NEXT MONTH'S CONVERSATION WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT OUR FEEDBACK, WHAT THE ACTUAL NEGOTIATIONS ARE.

SO ARE YOU REFERRING TO BUDGET WISE, LIKE, WELL, I MEAN, SAID WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GOT YOUR TOTAL, YOUR TOTAL TIME THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND TO, TO FINISH THE JOB.

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PERSONALLY SPEAKING, I WOULDN'T GO MORE THAN IF THEY COME BACK TO YOU AND ASK, NOT TELLING YOU HOW TO DO YOUR JOB.

BUT IF YOU ARE NOT BELIEVING WE'RE 40%, MORE THAN 40% THROUGH THAT WOULD BE YOUR CEILING AS FAR AS MONEY RELEASED AND INVOICES PAID, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T RELEASE ANY MORE THAN THAT.

YEAH.

AND THE, THE PAY APP WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW IS THROUGH, IT'S ONLY THROUGH, I BELIEVE, JULY OR AUGUST PAYOUT.

SO THEY, YOU KNOW, WELL THEY, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THEY'VE SPENT AS FAR AS TIME, TIME SPENT TO DO PHASE ONE HAS TAKEN ALMOST YES.

THE WHOLE TIME THAT FOR PHASE, I'M NOT SAYING THEY'VE USED THE SAME AMOUNT OF MANDATES.

THERE'S BEEN DAYS WHERE THEY'VE BEEN NOTHING.

WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP, YOUR TOTAL EXPENDED TIME IS GONNA GO WAY, WAY AND ABOVE THE TOTAL BUDGETED TIME.

RIGHT.

AND YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO CARRY, CARRY THE CAN.

SO UN UNLESS THEY'LL STAND FIRM WITH THEIR, OR, OR HONOR THE ORIGINAL QUOTE.

RIGHT.

WHICH I MEAN NO, IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY, BUT I'M HALF EXPECTING, LIKE I SAID, IT'S IT'S GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND ASK FOR A WHOLE BUNCH MORE.

YEAH.

SO WE, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT ALL ON.

WE DO MEET WITH THEM THURSDAY AND MORNING.

SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE CHANGE ORDER FOR DAYS AND KIND OF DECIDE WHAT'S A 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS, YOU KNOW, JUST BASED ON, AND THESE CHANGE ORDERS THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY SUBMITTED, YOU KNOW, THAT I WOULD'VE EXPECTED TO SEE IMPACT ON THOSE CHANGE ORDERS.

THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE, THE, THE PRICES OF THEM SEEM TO BE VERY LOW IN COMPARISON AND ULTIMATELY NOT REALLY THE CAUSE OF SOME OF THE DELAYS.

WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, SOME OF, SOME OF THESE, LIKE THE, THE, THE PROBLEMS THEY'VE OCCURRED, THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED CHANGE ORDERS BECAUSE OF THOSE PROBLEMS OR THEY'VE ADJUSTED IT ACCORDINGLY.

CORRECT.

THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED THEM WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO DAYS IN PARTICULAR.

NO, SIR.

NO.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE BASED ON WHEN, UH, WE SENT THIS ORIGINAL REPORT OUT, I BELIEVE TODAY WE'RE 95% COMPLETE BASED ON DAYS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE CREEP CREEPING UP TO THAT SUBSTANTIAL DATE.

SO, AND THERE WAS NO, IN THE CONTRACT THAT WAS WRITTEN WITH THE SUBCONTRACTOR WAS THERE WAS NO PROTECTION ON GOING BEYOND THE, THE TOTAL EXPENDED DAYS.

ANY PENALTY CLAUSES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IN THERE IF I HAD TO GUESS, OR IF THEY WENT OVER THE DAYS THEN.

WELL, ALL I'M SAYING, ALL I'M SAYING IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IF I'M HYPOTHETICALLY SPEND, IF WE SUDDENLY DO GO WAY, WAY AND ABOVE, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE LOOKING TO ROLL OVER AND, AND YOU KNOW, PAY, PAY THAT OVERAGE.

THEY, NOT ALL OF THE DELAYS HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY US.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

I MEAN, DEFINITELY NOT.

YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK HARD AT THE, AT A AMICABLE SOLUTION, BUT IT'S GONNA BE AN AWKWARD NEGOTIATION.

I'LL SAY.

THAT'S 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY.

YEAH.

I THINK, UH, MATTHEW SAID THEY HAVE TO MEET ON, OR THEY'RE MEETING ON THURSDAY.

THE, IS THAT THE, PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE PRESENTING INFORMATION FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER FOR, UH, AND THEN AT THAT TIME THEN AFTER THAT HE CAN REPORT BACK TO US ON WHETHER IT'S JUST A MATTER OF NUMBER OF DAYS SO THEY, THEY DON'T GET INTO LIQUIDATED DAMAGES OR IS THERE A COMPENSATION COMPONENT AS WELL? THAT'S, THERE SHOULDN'T BE.

I MEAN, MONEY-WISE THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION, JUST EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.

UH, JUST MORE DAYS TO AVOID LDS AND GOING DOWN THAT ROUTE.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE'VE LOOKED INTO.

UH, OKAY.

BUT WE'LL WAIT AND SEE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE HARRIS STREET? OKAY.

FOURTH STREET.

WE ARE OPENING BIDS ON THE 28TH, SO WE WILL THEN TAKE THAT TO COUNSEL, GET THAT GOING.

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ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS REGARDING FOURTH STREET? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY.

ALRIGHT.

BUT YEAH, JUST IF YOU WOULD, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE UPDATE NEXT MONTH AFTER, UH, YOU DISCUSSED THE, THE SCHEDULE.

YEAH.

DAY NUMBER OF DAYS WITH THE, WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THAT'LL KIND OF FLATTEN OUT THAT S-CURVE AS WELL THAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING.

SO, NO, SORRY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I'M JUST NOTICING ONE THING ON YOUR, THE DASHBOARD THERE, YOU'VE GOT THE COMMITTED AMOUNT AT 96.

THAT SHOULD BE THE TOTAL PROJECT FOR YOUR, LET ME PULL THAT UP REAL QUICK.

OH, OKAY.

SO THE TOP, THE WHOLE TOP PORTION IS ESSENTIALLY YOU CAN IGNORE THAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, UH, WE STARTED GOING THROUGH THAT AND JUST MAINLY WE FOCUSED ON THE CRITICAL PATH, THE RISK ITEMS, TARGET ACHIEVEMENTS.

SO THE, THE TOP PORTION IS STILL, I GUESS, SOMETHING WE NEED TO WORK ON.

UM, 'CAUSE YEAH, WE DON'T 2.4 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY.

THAT'S, I WAS GONNA SAY, SOME OF THE NUMBERS DON'T MAKE SENSE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEY WERE.

YES, SIR.

SO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE AFE WOULD BE THE, THAT'S THE, THE, YOUR TOTAL BUDGET.

OKAY.

THE ESTIMATE IS YOU WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR OVERALL QUOTES COME BACK AT CONTINGENCIES.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

YEAH.

SO THE ESTIMATE IN THIS CASE IS CORRECT, BUT YEAH, THE OTHER NUMBERS, WE NEED TO KIND OF GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.

OKAY.

FOR THE, IF YOU NEED HELP EXPLAINING THAT, GIMME A SHOT.

OKAY.

I MIGHT MIGHT DO THAT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEE? YOU GOOD? I'M GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MATTHEW.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK Y'ALL.

APPRECIATE IT.

WE

[ Business - C]

WILL MOVE BACK UP TO ITEM THREE C REVIEW AND DISCUSSION ON EDC EVENT PLANNING FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU.

UH, THIS ITEM IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW, UH, AND FACILITATE A DISCUSSION ON THE EDCS PLANNED EVENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.

SO WE WILL KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE RECAP OF THE EVENTS, UM, THAT WE HELD AND WORKED ON THIS FISCAL YEAR AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING, UM, THAT, THAT WE'LL WORK ON FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR PROPO PROPOSED BUDGET ALLOCATIONS FOR EACH OF THOSE EVENTS, AND THEN THE TIMELINE AND, UM, STRUCTURE USED TO MANAGE, UH, ALL EACH OF THOSE EVENTS INDIVIDUALLY.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, CITY STAFF ARE RECENTLY APPROACHED BY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SHORE REGIONAL CHAMBER FOR COMMERCE WITH A REQUEST FOR EACH EDC BOARD TO CONSIDER A RENEWED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OR MOU.

THIS IS IN YOUR PACKETS FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS TONIGHT.

UM, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ACTION, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

UH, AND THEN TONIGHT WE DO HAVE, UH, MS. RACHEL DURHAM AS WELL AS, UH, A TEAM MEMBER OF HEARST, UM, TO PRESENT KIND OF WHAT THEY INTEND WITH THE MOU AND THEN BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

UM, AGAIN, THERE'S NO DECISION EXPECTED TONIGHT, JUST YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, AND YOUR FEEDBACK.

RACHEL, YOU'RE UP.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

SO I AM HERE AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE FOAL REGIONAL CHAMBER FOR COMMERCE WITH MY DIRECTOR OF EVENTS, ANGELA VAN DUREN, AND MY INCOMING CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, MR. TONY GAMBONE.

THEY'RE MY SUPPORT GROUP TONIGHT.

UM, SO, UM, AFTER MUCH CONSIDERATION AND SEVERAL NEW TEAM MEMBERS BEING BROUGHT ONTO THE CHAMBER, WE HAVE FOUND OURSELF IN THE POSITION TO PROVIDE OUR UNIQUE EXPERTISE TO OFFER TO THE EDCS AND TO THE CITY OF

[00:20:01]

RE TO ASSIST ANELLE AND HAYDEN WITH THEIR EVENT PLANNING.

WE ARE KNOWN FOR GIVING BIG EVENTS, MUCH LIKE THE FREEDOM FEST.

WE HAVE A GIANT ONE COMING UP IN 2026 WHERE WE WILL ALL BE CELEBRATING THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF AMERICA.

AND SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AND JUST HOPING TO CREATE A CONVERSATION AROUND HOW THE CITY AND THE EDCS AND THE CHAMBER COULD PARTNER TO BRING JUST A, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATED EVENT WHERE WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND THE CHAMBER GETS TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS AS YOUR BIGGEST CHEERLEADER.

SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.

I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE THE MANPOWER NOW TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF A PRESENTED MOU, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.

WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AND OFFER OUR ASSISTANCE.

WAS THE SAME THING ALSO PRESENTED TO THE A BOARDS AS WELL, OR? YES.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS HOPE, I GUESS EVERYONE'S SEEN THE POTENTIAL MOU, UM, I'M ASSUMING YOU JUST KIND OF PUT THIS OUT THERE TO START A DISCUSSION.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE, YOU WANTING US TO CONSIDER BETWEEN THE A AND THE B BOARDS, LIKE $800,000 OVER AN EIGHT YEAR PERIOD TO HELP WITH, UH, OUR EVENTS.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS, BUT YES, THAT'S BASICALLY THE 0.3 SIGNATURE EVENTS, THE PROPOSED EVENTS WOULD BE FREEDOM FEST, THE SCARECROW FESTIVAL AND THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL THAT WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSION.

I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT US TO PIVOT BACK AND FORTH, BUT I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME WHERE I GUESS WE WORKED PRETTY CLOSELY WITH THE CHAMBER AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT, UM, WHETHER IT WAS STAFFING OR, UH, WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF FELL OUT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP AND SO MEAN, HOW HAVE WE DONE ON HOLDING OUR EVENTS, UM, MAYBE SINCE THAT TIME, OR DID WE, WHAT EVENTS HAVE WE CONDUCTED? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED THOSE ADDITIONAL SERVICES? 'CAUSE I'M THINKING THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH A BUDGET PROCESS AND I HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, YOU KNOW, CALLING ME AND MEETING WITH ME PERSONALLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT INVESTMENTS WE WERE MAKING, WHAT THE FUNDS THAT WE WERE RECEIVE.

AND THEY WERE FAIRLY CRITICAL ABOUT WHAT PROGRAMS WE INVESTED IN AND WHAT WE CHOSE TO SPEND OUR MONEY ON.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY EXPECT US TO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, METRICS AND, UH, REPORTING BACK, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, SO I'M KIND OF SENSITIVE TO THAT.

THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, A LOT SMALLER CONTRACT.

UH, SO I'M JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF GIVING ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE HERE, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, HOW WE WANT OUR EVENTS TO BE GREAT AND NO DOUBT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PRIDED ON.

AND SO HOW HAVE WE DONE, MAYBE AND WHAT EVENTS HAVE WE CONDUCTED, UH, ON OUR OWN? YES, YES.

UM, SO WHEN I GOT HERE, UM, IN WHAT, 2023? IT WAS FISCAL YEAR 24, UM, WE HOSTED THE BICENTENNIAL EVENT.

IT WAS THE FIRST EVENT THAT THE CITY EVER HOSTED, UH, ON ITS OWN, UH, INDEPENDENT OF THE CHAMBER.

BEFORE THAT, THE CHAMBER AND THE CITY HAD, UH, WORKED TOGETHER TO BRING EVENTS, UM, AND WITH THE CITY, THE CITY'S APPROVAL, THE EDC WOULD FUND CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THOSE EVENTS, AND THE CHAMBER WOULD WORK KIND OF ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF HOW THAT EVENT WOULD WORK.

UM, I THINK FOR THE BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION, UH, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO KIND OF HOST ITS CELEBRATION.

SO WE DID THAT ON OUR OWN AND IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

I THINK THAT SAME YEAR WE SPONSORED A PORTION OF THE SCARECROW FESTIVAL MM-HMM .

WITH THE CHAMBER, UM, AND HI, IT AND MYSELF, TRIED TO ATTEND AS MANY OF THE CHAMBER EVENTS AS WE COULD, AND, UM, SPONSORED THE PORTIONS OF THAT THAT WE COULD, WE ALSO ATTENDED THE TEXAS HERITAGE FESTIVAL THAT THE CHAMBER HOSTED AND SPONSORED A PORTION OF THAT THERE.

THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, WE STARTED CREATING, UM, WE WERE CHARGED WITH CREATING KIND OF THAT HALLMARK, UH, ANNUAL

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EVENT THAT THE CITY COULD CONTINUE TO GROW EVERY YEAR.

AND SO THAT THIS PAST YEAR WAS FOLLY.

UM, SO THAT EVENT WAS ALSO PUT ON BY THE CITY, AND IT'S OUR INTENT TO CONTINUE THAT EVENT, UM, INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UM, SO THE, THE DOLLARS THAT ARE BUDGETED FOR THIS, THIS, UH, BUDGET CYCLE ARE KIND OF ALREADY EARMARKED FOR CERTAIN EVENTS.

SO THIS YEAR IT'LL BE FULCHER FOLLY, THE, WHICH IS REALLY NEXT YEAR'S FOLLY, UM, THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING, AND THEN LOCAL HOLIDAYS, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, UM, WE HOSTED, PARTNERED WITH DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AT SMALL, SMALLER AMOUNTS AND KIND OF CREATED A CALENDAR OF EVENTS WHERE, UM, OUR COMMUNITY COULD GO THROUGH AND SUPPORT DIFFERENT BUSINESSES ON DIFFERENT NIGHTS ALL THROUGH THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

UM, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

UM, IN ADDITION, WE'VE HAD SOME MINOR PROGRAMMING THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON THE BUDGET, AND THAT'S USUALLY THE EDC PHOTO CONTEST, THE GINGERBREAD HOUSE CONTEST, AND THEN ANY REQUEST THAT COMES THROUGH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UM, LIKE PUBLIC WORKS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR PARKS AND REC SIDE OF PUBLIC WORKS WE'LL, WE WILL PARTNER WITH GROUNDBREAKINGS GRAND OPENINGS AND THEN ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAKE SENSE.

UM, SO WITH THAT, USUALLY THAT DEPARTMENT WILL TAKE A LEAD AND WE WILL JUST, UM, SPONSOR MONEYWISE, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, UM, KIND OF TIES IN BACK TO EDC RELATED ITEMS. IT'S, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU JUST SOME OF MY COMMENTS TO, JUST TO BE STRAIGHT UP ABOUT IT HERE PUBLICLY, BUT I JUST LIKE THE SCARECROW FESTIVALS COMING UP.

I MEAN, I'M PARTIAL TO FULCHER, FULCHER, SCARECROW FESTIVAL, FULCHER FREEDOM FEST.

MM-HMM .

FULCHER, WHATEVER.

AND I JUST, I, ANYWAY, I JUST, IF WE'RE INVOLVED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD JUST EXPECT RE TO BE MORE PROMINENT, UH, IN THE MARKETING AND IN THE, UH, PR FOR THE EVENT.

UH, AND SO THAT'S, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS, AS ONE, ONE ITEM.

UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD A PROGRAM THAT HAD MULTIPLE EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR, AND COUNCIL WAS PRETTY CRITICAL OF THIS BOARD.

AND ACTUALLY THEY, UM, THEY REMOVED THE FUNDING FOR THAT.

SO I THINK, UM, I THINK WE'VE HAD A GREAT PARTNERSHIP AND I THINK MAYBE THERE IS SOME STRATEGIC AREAS WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

UH, BUT I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO TRY TO SORT OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS ARE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT HOPEFULLY WILL BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND ALSO THE CHAMBER AT THE SAME TIME, UH, AS I THINK, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

Y'ALL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, STRONG ORGANIZATION.

UM, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, CHER'S INTERESTS.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND THAT'S THE PART OF THE, THE PARTNERSHIP OR COLLABORATION THAT THE CHAMBER IS REALLY LOOKING FOR IS TO BRING THE CITY OF SHORE UP AND PUT THE CITY OF RE IN BRIGHT SPOT FOR BRINGING SOMETHING GREAT TO THE COMMUNITY WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THIS GROWTH.

THE CHAMBER JUST WANTS TO SUPPORT THE CITY AND BRING SOMETHING GREAT TO THE RESIDENTS TOGETHER TO SHOW A UNIFIED FRONT.

I MEAN, I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT PARTNERSHIP PLAYS OUT.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EDCS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CHAMBER, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW, HOW IS THAT BROUGHT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, IS IT IN THE FORM OF LIKE AN EVENT COMMITTEE WHERE EVERYONE HAS APO, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE CAN SPEAK UP AND EVERYONE CAN PARTAKE.

MM-HMM .

IS IT READING THROUGH THIS, IT SEEMS TO BE HEAVILY LED BY THE CHAMBER.

JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW A LITTLE BIT MORE EQUIPPED, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER IN THE FORM OF A COMMITTEE MAY GO DOWN A LOT BETTER.

YES, LEE, WE WOULD BE OPEN TO JOINT COMMITTEES AS FAR AS HAVING THE CITY STAFF ON BOARD WITH THE CHAMBER AND US WORKING THE LOGISTICS AND USING OUR PLATFORM TO SECURE THE SPONSORS AND VENDORS.

WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ESTABLISHED WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO, TO ANY FORM OF WORKING TOGETHER.

WE'RE, WE'RE JUST STARTING THE, THE PLAYBOOK NOW.

YEAH.

JUST, JUST WHILE I'M SPEAKING ANOTHER COUPLE ITEMS. 'CAUSE IT SAYS HERE, UH, GOOD FAITH EFFORT WILL BE MADE TO HOST AT LEAST FOUR EVENTS, ANTICIPATED EVENTS OF THE 4TH OF JULY SCARE CORE FESTIVAL FULL YEAR FOLLOWING CHRISTMAS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE SEEN IN PREVIOUS EVENTS, UM, IS THAT, UH, SECTION FIVE PERMITTING, IT'S

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VERY OPEN AND VAGUE AS TO WHO ULTIMATELY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE PERMITS TO BE SUBMITTED.

THIS IS JUST PRELIMINARY, THERE'S NOTHING SET IN STONE HERE.

WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP THAT AND MAKE, LIKE, ULTIMATELY SOMEONE HAS FINAL SIGN OFF ON AN EVENT.

SURE.

BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN ISSUES IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE MISSED PERMITS.

I DON'T WANNA GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, YES.

USUALLY WE JUST NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ON THAT.

YES, SIR.

SO USUALLY, UM, WHEN WE'VE WORKED IN THE PAST, UM, IT'LL BE MYSELF AND HAYDEN FILLING OUT.

UM, IT'S ABOUT AN 18 PAGE EXTENSIVE APPLICATION.

IT GOES TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THEY USE IT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, WHAT CROWD SIZE ARE YOU EXPECTING, UM, HOW MANY OFFICERS DO WE NEED, IS THERE ALCOHOL? DO YOU NEED EMS? UM, JUST COVER ALL OF OUR BASES.

SO WE USUALLY FILL THAT OUT AND SEND IT OVER TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU.

UM, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, UH, IN, IN FULL SURE.

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE, UM, OH, IT'S ON, GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

A LITTLE FURTHER.

ARE YOU SAYING MY VOICE IS NOT LOUD ENOUGH? NO, NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THAT TO ME BEFORE .

THANK YOU, HAYDEN.

UM, UH, NO, JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE I JUST SAID, I'VE ONLY BEEN IN FULL SHARE AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY.

UM, SO IN KIND OF GETTING BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING WITH SOME CRITICISM, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT HASN'T ALSO THE CITY, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE EDC, UH, HIRED A NEW EVENT STAFF.

SO DOESN'T THAT NEED TO PLAY INTO THIS AS WELL? UH, YES MA'AM.

SO OUR STAFF, I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS, HAS GROWN PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO, UM, OUTSIDE OF MYSELF AND HAYDEN, USUALLY WE WORK TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, WITH PUBLIC WORKS STREETS AND ALL OF THAT FOR BARRICADES AND SAFETY.

AND THEN WE WORK WITH OUR, UH, MARKETING, UM, FOR MARKETING MATERIALS WITH OUR PIO.

AND THAT OFFICE HAS RECENTLY GOTTEN AN ADDITIONAL PERSON.

AND THAT WAS A NEW POSITION, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT, YES.

OKAY.

UM, SO IT ALLOWS FOR A LITTLE MORE BANDWIDTH THERE WITH DESIGNING MARKETING MATERIALS AND GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT.

AND THEN, UM, OUR PARKS AND REC, UH, DEPARTMENT HAS A NEW COORDINATOR FOR PARKS AND RECREATION EVENTS.

UM, HOWEVER, THAT PERSON, AS THEY'RE ABLE TO, UM, AND IT'S APPROPRIATE, WE'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH CITYWIDE EVENTS AS WELL.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE I, I THINK I SEE US OR HOPE WE WOULD, UH, HARRIS STREET, WE GOT AN UPDATE ON HARRIS STREET.

SO WITH THE COMPLETION OF THAT, AT SOME POINT, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN HAVING MORE SMALLER EVENTS YET I THINK, YOU KNOW, COULD BE IN OUR FUTURE AS WELL.

MM-HMM .

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE REALLY LIKE THAT.

UM, I'VE, I'VE BEEN HERE WHENEVER WE'VE HAD THE, THE, THE ME MEMORANDUM WITH THE CHAMBER AND WITHOUT, AND, UM, AND WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT EVENTS IN BOTH SCENARIOS.

UM, ONE OF, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS ALSO BEEN A FIRM BELIEVER THAT THE CHAMBER, YOU KNOW, HAS A, HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN THIS BECAUSE THESE ARE EVENTS FOR FESTIVALS AND PEOPLE AND ALSO BUSINESSES MM-HMM .

AND IF WE DON'T INCLUDE OUR SRE BUSINESSES, WHICH NO ONE HAS A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT THAN THE SRE CHAMBER SRE REGIONAL CHAMBER, UM, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REALLY GETTING ALL THE RE INVOLVED.

UM, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PART TO BE PLAYED, UM, HERE AND, UH, I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF BELIEVED THAT BOTH NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID, WE ARE GETTING BIGGER, THE FULL, THE EVENTS ARE GETTING BIGGER, WHICH JUST MEANS THAT WE PROBABLY NEED MORE PARTNERSHIPS AND MORE PLACES TO, UM, AND, AND, AND MORE PEOPLE TO HELP INCLUDE EVERYONE.

AND SO, UH, UH, I I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT TO ALSO CLEAN UP POTENTIALLY IN THIS MEMORANDUM BECAUSE IT HAS, UH, LOTS OF THINGS THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH AND, AND THE EDC WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH TO BE ABLE TO, UM, SIGN SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

UH, YOU KNOW, TICKETING, IT GIVES FULL, UH, CAPABILITIES TO YOURSELF.

SO THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP FOR SURE.

SURE.

THERE WON'T BE A, UH, SOLELY RUN, I THINK, POTENTIALLY EVENT BY THE CHAMBER JUST BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, SCALE, AND SCOPE.

UM, YEAH, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE'S NOT A ROLE TO BE PLAYED.

SURE.

SO, UH, I'M, I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THIS GOES.

UM, AND BEING THE FIRST TIME WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT IT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF MEETING WITH, WITH THE STAFF TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE CITY AND THE CHAMBER WANTS TO GO AND WHOSE ROLE IS WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO GO.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

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NOW WHAT, WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU NEED OR THIS ENOUGH DISCUSSION FOR YOU, FOR WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? YES SIR.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE CHAMBER? JUST A CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FOLEY'S MENTIONED UNDER TWO DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES THAT I'M NOT CLEAR GOING FORWARD.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE FOLLIES BEING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CHAMBER, OR AS A CITY RUN ONLY? WE ARE PLANNING FOR THIS UPCOMING TRES FOLLIES AS IT'S BUDGETED TO BE A CITY RUN EVENT.

I THINK RACHEL, IN PART OF THE DISCUSSION, KIND OF INCLUDED IT IN HER ITEMS AS A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP TO BE DISCUSSED FOR THE FUTURE.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THANK YOU FOR, UH, UH, APPROACHING US AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE WILLINGNESS TO PARTNER.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE PROBABLY ARE SOME AVENUES AHEAD, BUT WE REALLY HAVE TO FERRET THAT OUT ON SURE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE, UH, FROM THIS BOARD.

AND ALSO GET SOME INPUT FROM OUR COUNTERPARTS ON THE A BOARD, UH, BECAUSE IT, WE USUALLY WORK TOGETHER ON THESE THINGS.

SOUNDS GOOD.

YES.

WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.

SORRY, RACHEL.

DID, CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? I DID, SURE.

THERE SOMETHING YOU REFERRED TO MADE ME, UM, WANNA ASK THE QUESTION TOO.

IT SOUNDED LIKE, UH, THE, THAT, UH, EVENTS THAT THE EDC IS SUPPORTING THE CHA LIKE YOU ARE, THERE IS SOME SORT OF A RELATIONSHIP ALREADY THERE.

LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE A FEW YEARS, SO YOU DO ALREADY SUPPORT, UM, LIKE OUR SPONSOR OR WHATEVER? YES.

SO OUR, LIKE, WHAT ARE THOSE? OUR MEMBERSHIP WITH THE CHAMBER ACTUALLY INCLUDES A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE CAN CHOOSE WHERE WE WANT TO PLACE BASED ON THEIR PROGRAMMING.

SO THEY'LL KIND OF REACH OUT AND WE'LL DO THAT.

AND THEN, UM, ANY EVENT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A PREFERRED PARTNER, SO THEY GET TO PARTICIPATE IN THE EVENT, UH, IN TERMS OF HAVING A PRESENCE THERE, ALWAYS KIND OF SHOWING THAT UNIFIED FRONT, HAVING THEM BESIDE THE CITY TENT AND THAT KIND OF THING.

OKAY.

UM, AND I DID WANNA ADD, UM, TO TOMMY'S COMMENT THAT OUR, A BOARD DID ASK, UM, THEY SAID IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO CONSIDER AN AGREEMENT, KIND OF, OF THAT MAGNITUDE WITHOUT HAVING ALL OF THE DETAILS OF THE LOCATION OF THE EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, AHEAD OF TIME.

AND SO THEY REQUESTED THAT WE, UH, OR I GUESS RACHEL COULD COME BACK WITH A SPECIFIC REQUEST.

SO FOR THIS EVENT THAT WILL BE LOCATED HERE ON THIS DATE, AT THIS TIME, WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS SPONSORSHIP LEVEL OF THE EDC AND IT WOULD BE A LITTLE EASIER TO KIND OF TAKE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT SPOKEN LIKE THAT, THAT SEEMS, THAT SEEMS TO, WE'RE ALMOST PUSHING EVERYTHING BACK TO THE, THE CHAMBER.

BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE INTENT.

THE WAY YOU'VE JUST SAID IT OR THE WAY YOU JUST EXPLAINED IT WAS MORE SO IF THE CHAMBER NEEDS TO JUSTIFY TO BOTH BOARDS FOR THE JUSTIFICATION OF EXPENDITURE ON A PARTICULAR EVENT, THAT'S ALMOST THE CHAMBER TAKING THE LEAD AS A WHOLE, WHEREAS NO, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD SAY WE'RE HOSTING THE SCARECROW FESTIVAL, IT'S GONNA BE AT THIS LOCATION.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO SPONSOR THE MUSIC FOR THE EVENT.

IT WOULD BE IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU, YOU, YOU ARE SAYING, SO THE, WHAT YOU JUST SAID THERE, THE CHAMBER WILL BE HOSTING THE EVENT.

WELL, THEY HAVE THEIR SCHEDULE OF EVENTS AND THE CITY HAS OUR SCHEDULE OF EVENTS AND WE ALWAYS MEET TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFLICTING, YOU KNOW, NOTHING ON THE SAME MONTH OR SAME WEEKEND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT YES, THAT'S HOW IT, HOW IT WORKS NOW.

BUT THE CHAMBER IS PROPOSING A PARTNERSHIP FOR THREE SIGNATURE EVENTS, THREE OR FOUR, THREE.

THAT'S THE DISCUSSION AND THAT'S JUST, OKAY.

PRELIMINARY.

IT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING TO ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED OFF WITH SAYING, OKAY, THIS WAS A JOINT DISCRETION, POTENTIALLY A COMMITTEE.

RIGHT.

AND THEN ALL, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S NOT ALL OF THE, THE, THE CHAMBERS LEADING THIS.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO WORK OUT IS IT, IS IT A, A JOINT EVENT RIGHT? SPONSORS A JOINT SPONSORED EVENT? OR IS IT THE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST SIMPLY SUPPLY MONEY AND THE CHAMBER RUNS WITH IT.

SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.

SO THE INTENT FROM THE CHAMBER IS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY FOR NAMING RIGHTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF SHORE AND THE SHORE REGIONAL CHAMBER FOR COMMERCE AND THREE UNIQUE SIGNATURE EVENTS BROUGHT TO THE CITY.

THE EXAMPLES WOULD BE THE FREEDOM FEST, THE SCARECROW FESTIVAL AND CHRISTMAS.

I WASN'T AWARE THAT THE BUDGET HAD ALREADY BEEN

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DRAWN FOR 2026.

SO THAT WAS NEWS TO ME TONIGHT AS FAR AS THAT LINEUP.

SO WE ARE STILL OPEN FOR DISCUSSION YOU, BUT BASED ON YOUR BUDGET HERE, YOU PUT THE MONEY STILL LEFT? YES.

OKAY.

ANY MORE COMMENT? I GUESS ANELLE, IF YOU WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH RACHEL AND SEE AFTER THE DISCUSSION.

'CAUSE WE DON'T HEAR THE FULL, AND WE CAN LISTEN TO THE A BOARD, BUT WE DON'T TYPICALLY SIT IN ON THAT MEETING, UH, BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

UH, SEE IF THERE'S SOME COMMON GROUND HERE BETWEEN US AND, UM, MAYBE SUGGEST WHAT MAY BE A GOOD PATH FORWARD.

MM-HMM .

KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHAMBER HAS THE EVENTS THEY WANT TO HOST, WE HAVE OUR EVENTS, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE WORK TOGETHER ON THOSE.

SURE.

YEAH.

I, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT A TIMEFRAME, RIGHT? OCTOBER, UM, MEETING IN THE VERY, YOU KNOW, FOURTH QUARTER OF 2025 EVENTS HAPPENING MID 2026.

SO, AND BUDGETS ALREADY FORMED.

SO JUST A CONCLUSION ON THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE NEEDED TO BE IN THE NEXT, I WOULD SAY, MONTH OR, OR SO MINIMUM, RIGHT? TO BE ABLE TO, FOR EVENT PLANNING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO WHATEVER THIS IS GONNA BE PROBABLY CAN'T LAST UNTIL 2026 TO MAKE THAT DECISION IS KIND OF, I I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF POINT OUT THE TIMEFRAME.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

THE SCARECROW FESTIVAL'S, UH, SATURDAY.

RIGHT.

WE'LL PUT THAT IN ANNOUNCEMENTS.

OKAY.

I THINK, LET'S SEE, YOU'RE GONNA PAINT PUMPKINS THERE, RIGHT? FOR, YEAH, FOR 2025.

THE SCARECROW RIGHT.

FESTIVALS WEEKEND, BUT, UH, JUST 20, 26 AND EVERYTHING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

GOOD.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ANELLE.

ANELLE, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE EVENT, EVENT PLANNING? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

[ Business - D]

ITEM 3D IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE TIP STRATEGIES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE PROPOSAL.

OKAY.

SO IN YOUR PACKETS YOU HAVE A SCOPE OF WORK THAT YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IT INCLUDES A NEW SECTION.

UH, IT'S ON PAGE 30 IN YOUR PACKET, THE THIRD PAGE OF THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT.

UM, THE SCOPE OF WORK.

IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ON EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUAL WORKSHOPS.

AND WE ASKED FOR, UM, THIS TO BE ADDED IN THERE BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK FROM THE LAST TIME YOU ALL DISCUSSED IT.

UM, BUT AT OUR MEETING WITH A BOARD LAST WEEK, THEY DECIDED TO TABLE THIS ITEM, UM, JUST TO BE BROUGHT BACK AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL REDISTRICTING ELECTION IN MAY OF 2026.

UM, IT WAS VERY WISELY POINTED OUT THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT WE COULD HAVE A WHOLE NEW COUNCIL, UM, MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR.

AND SO WE COULD START THIS PROCESS IN JANUARY AND, YOU KNOW, WRAP IT IN APRIL, WRAP IT UP IN APRIL, JUST IN TIME TO GET ALL NEW OPINIONS AND ALL NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S UP TO YOU.

BUT WITH THAT IN MIND, WE THINK IT WOULD BE WISE, THE TABLE UNTIL THEN, SO THAT WE CAN GET A FRESH PLAN WITH OUR NEW COUNCIL, ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING, NOT JUST THE ADD-ONS.

YES, MA'AM.

ENTIRELY JUST AN UPDATED STRATEGIC PLAN.

ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? YEAH, I I, THE PHILOSOPHY, MAN, I'M, I'M GONNA DO TODAY WHAT YOU CAN'T DO TODAY AND DON'T LET IT GO TO TOMORROW, TYPE GUY.

SO I, MAN, THAT'S TABLING IT A LONG TIME ON A CRITICAL PIECE OF, OF WHAT WE WANT TO GET DONE.

UM, I'M, I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT CAME UP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NINE MONTHS AWAY, YOU KNOW, EIGHT, NINE MONTHS AWAY FROM THAT.

UH, SO I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT FROM THE ABOARD.

BUT THIS PROCESS THEY SAID WOULD TAKE, WHAT, FOUR MONTHS THAT I SEE THAT IN THERE.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.

AND, AND THE GOAL WHEN WE HAD PRESENTED THIS TO ABOARD WAS HOPEFULLY TO GET IT APPROVED THIS MONTH TO GO TO COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN TO KICK OFF THE ACTUAL PROCESS IN JANUARY.

WELL, IF WE DO IT IN JANUARY, THAT PUTS US IN APRIL RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTIONS.

SO IT, THE, THE TIMELINE JUST COMPRESSED AND COMPRESSED AND COMPRESSED, UM, TO THE POINT THAT THEY BROUGHT THAT UP AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, UM, AND, AND ASKED THEM TO BE TABLED.

COULD WE, UH, SO IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT LONG TO GET IT GOING, WHAT DO, MARK, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GETTING IT?

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TRY TO GET IT APPROVED SO THAT AS SOON AS THE NEW COUNSEL IS IN PLACE, PROBABLY THE NEXT MONTH IT'S READY TO BEGIN RATHER THAN STARTING THIS WHOLE PROCESS AFTER THE MAY ELECTION.

AND THEN WE'RE SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER BEFORE WE GET GOING.

YEAH, I, I WILL NOTE THAT SOMEWHERE ON HERE, WE NEED TO CHECK WITH TIP, RIGHT? YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH TIP BECAUSE THERE IS A EXPIRATION YEAH.

180 DAYS EXPIRATION DATE FOR THIS.

SO IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BRING IT BACK, BUT LIKELY IT WOULD BE THE SAME OR AN INCREASED COST.

IT IT COULD BE AT THAT TIME BECAUSE YEAH, I, I DON'T, DEPENDING ON CERTAIN EXACTLY.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND JUST KINDA LET 'EM KNOW.

I THINK JUST POINTING IT OUT THOUGH, I MEAN, WE THINK ABOUT IT LOGICALLY, YOU KNOW, ONCE, IF WE WERE TO DO THIS RIGHT, WHETHER WE WERE, WHETHER DID WE DO IT NOW, WHETHER WE DO IT IN MAY, IS THE OUTCOME GONNA CHANGE IN THE, IN THE FORM OF THE DOCUMENT? THE, SO THE, THE PORTION OF THE PROCESS THAT INCLUDES THE, THE WORKSHOP MEETINGS BETWEEN COUNCIL AND OUR EDC COULD RESULT IN DIFFERENT PRIORITIES OR DIFFERENT AREAS OF FOCUS, UH, JUST BASED ON WHAT, WHAT THAT COUNCIL WANTS US TO, TO DO OR WHERE THEY WANNA FOCUS.

THE MAJORITY OF, YOU KNOW, OUR MONEY, OUR EFFORTS, UH, IT REALLY COULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT.

I MEAN, I, I THINK THE PRIME EXAMPLE HERE IS JUST WHAT WE'VE RECENTLY BEEN THROUGH, UM, A PROGRAM THAT WAS CHARGED TO THE EDC THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN 2019 THAT THIS CURRENT COUNCIL DIDN'T AGREE.

UM, SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE FEAR THAT WE WOULD YOU REFERRING TO ? YES, SIR.

SO THAT'S THE THE THING WE WANT TO AVOID, THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN FOCUS THAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO, BUT THE NEW COUNCIL WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T WANT US TO BE WORKING ON.

OKAY.

I MEAN, THIS SORT OF PROCESS HAS MANY, MANY STAKEHOLDERS.

CITY COUNCIL IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE THERE AS WELL.

MM-HMM .

BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY PART OF THE PROCESS AS WELL.

UM, IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY WE GET A BRAND NEW COUNCIL OR WHATEVER, BUT THERE'S A LEARNING PROCESS THERE TOO.

THERE'S A BENEFIT TO DOING IT BEFORE THIS, UH, BEFORE A BRAND NEW COUNCIL COMES ON WITH INITIATIVES HEADING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AS WELL.

WELL, JUST BECAUSE OF THE EXPERIENCE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.

SURE.

SO, UM, AGAIN, I'M RELUCTANT TO, TO, TO WAIT ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS, IS, YES, IT'S STRATEGIC, BUT IT, IT ALSO, WE KNOW IT TAKES US THREE MONTHS TO GET STARTED TO GET, TO GET A, TO GET A NEW AGREEMENT PUT TOGETHER AND PAID AND CHECKS WRITTEN.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST, I, I WOULD, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO, I'D GET IT APPROVED AT A MINIMUM AND GET THE PROCESS STARTED ALSO AT A MINIMUM SO THAT ANYONE WHO'S COMING ON BOARD WOULD BE ABLE TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH US, UM, IN GETTING THIS DONE.

'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A KEY PORTION OF WHAT THEY WANT TO BE ACCOMPLISHING TOO.

THE STRATEGIC, YOU KNOW, NATURE OF THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF RE MM-HMM .

YEAH.

AND WELL, IN THE 180 DAYS TRANSLATES TO WHAT, ROUGHLY SIX MONTHS.

SO WE COULD JUST MOVE FORWARD AND THEN SET A START KIND OF MIDDLE OF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE MORE ALONG THE LINES OF TOMMY OR YOU'RE JUST WANTING IT TO KICK OFF IN JANUARY.

AND OF COURSE WE ARE, I'M JUST SHARING WHAT A BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE.

BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO AGREE AND WE CAN GO BACK TO THEM WITH YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL.

EVEN IF WE GET IT APPROVED, IT'S IN, IT'S, IT'S APPROVED TO GO FORWARD.

THE MONEY IS THERE, TIPS IS GETTING THEIR STAFF READY, AND THEN WE'RE GEARED UP FOR DAY 20 WHENEVER WE GET OUR NEW COUNCIL WHATEVER WE THINK IS BEST.

BUT I'D RATHER HAVE THE PROCESS STARTED SO THAT WE'RE READY TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE WORK OF THE CITY OF RE AND THE EDC.

SO SINCE BOTH EDCS ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH, UNLESS WE KIND OF MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE CONVERSATION IS GONNA COME UP AGAIN IF I'M YES.

MORE OR LESS.

THE, THE MAIN ISSUE TONIGHT IS ABOARD DID NOT VOTE TO FUND THIS.

SO IF, IF E-BOARD WANTS TO FUND THE, THE ENTIRETY OF THE, UH, THE STUDY, THEN YEAH, WE CAN PUSH IT ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE TABLE.

BUT IF WE'RE DOING IT CONTINGENT UPON ABOARD, IT WON'T BE UNTIL NEXT MONTH.

DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO WAIT TILL ABOARD TO MOVE FIRST OR

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CAN WE JUST MOVE FORWARD FIRST? NOPE, WE DO NOT AFFORDING FIRST.

NO, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD FIRST.

IT'S JUST THE, THE, THE STACKING OF, OF THE MEETINGS IN THE MONTH, IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT ABOARD COMES FIRST.

SO IF WE APPROVE IT TONIGHT ABOARD, APPROVES IT NEXT MONTH, IT COULD STILL GO TO, IT'D GO TO COUNCIL NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE THE SECOND NOVEMBER MEETING.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS.

OKAY.

UM, BUT THAT, THAT AGAIN IS CONTINGENT ON ALSO.

YEAH.

SO WE PROBABLY HAVE LISTED AS A PROJECT, OR DO WE, IT'S NOT LISTED AS A PROJECT.

IT IS BUDGET FOR HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN OUR STUDIES? SO EACH BOARD HAS FUND THE WHOLE THING.

$75,000.

OH, WE HAVE ONLY, SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO FUND THE ENTIRETY IF YOU WANTED TO? WE COULD, YES.

WELL, WHAT'S THE PHOTO? AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT WE'VE AGREED ON TOO IS THAT IT WAS DONE THE, IN 20, IN 2019, IS THAT RIGHT? SO TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE TOO, BECAUSE WE COULD DO THAT FULL SURE HAS CHANGED AND IS CHANGING.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, EVERY MOMENT WE SPEAK, THERE'S A FEW OF US THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT ON THE BOARD STILL.

AND YOU KNOW, WITH THE AMOUNT OF INVOLVEMENT THAT WE HAD FROM THE CITY, IT WAS MORE THE, THE BOTH FTCS, YOU KNOW, THE EDC INVOLVEMENT BASED ON DEMOGRAPHICS, BASED ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF CONVERSATIONS DURING THE WORKSHOPS.

AND I'M NOT SAYING CITY COUNCIL WEREN'T INVOLVED, BUT A LOT OF IT WAS DONE BY THE BOARDS AND THE CITY MANAGER WAS PRESENT THROUGHOUT.

AND THEN WE PRESENTED WHAT WE FOUND BACK TO BOARD, BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR, FOR FEEDBACK.

SO ALL OF THAT COULD STILL HAPPEN PRIOR TO US GIVING IT TO THE, THE CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW.

YEAH, YOU, YOU CAN, I MEAN, YOU COULD ALMOST FINISH IT.

THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT KNOWING WHAT GOES INTO IT AND THE OUTCOME.

TO ME, I HONESTLY THINK THE OUTCOME'S VERY GONNA BE VERY MUCH SIMILAR, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THE CITY COUNCIL CHANGED THE STRATEGY WOULD STILL BE GO GOING AND BASED ON ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE'S INVOLVEMENT STRATEGY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND IT'S BASED ON FACTS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN DO ALL YOUR DATA GATHERING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TO BE READY FOR NEW COUNSEL TO ADD THEIR INSIGHT, BECOME A NEW STAKEHOLDER, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

YOU KNOW, AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE BASED ON THIS IS IT SAY, OKAY, WE CAN, WE COULD AGREE FOR $50,000, WE WOULD EFFECTIVELY GET THIS WHOLE ONE THROUGH EIGHT.

AND THEN IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET THROUGH ONE THROUGH EIGHT WHEN PRIOR TO POTENTIAL COUNCIL CHANGING, THEN, THEN THERE'S A, SORRY, I'VE LOST THE, THERE, IT'S THEN IT DEPENDS.

IT'S GONNA PICK AND CHOOSE FROM THEREAFTER.

YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO IT TWO IN PERSON WORKSHOPS AND INVOLVES THE CITY COUNCILS AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HAVE SOME LEVEL OF, OKAY, IF WE TWEAK IT WITH FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE GONNA GET 90% OF IT DONE.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, I'M AGREEING WITH MARK.

I I, TO ME I WOULD GO FOR IT.

SO, SO WHAT YOU'RE, WHEN YOU SAID GO FOR IT, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT JUST THE 50,000 BASELINE OR ADDING ON ANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED BELOW IT? I MEAN, CAN WE, CAN WE ADD ON THINGS LATER? YES.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE AMOUNT BUDGETED, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT IS $75,000.

THE SCOPE OF WORK WITHOUT THE OPTIONAL ADD-ONS IS 50,000.

MM-HMM .

SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION UP TO 75,000 TO ALLOW YOURSELF THAT OPTION TO LATER ADD ON AN IN-PERSON WORKSHOP OR A VIRTUAL IF IT WAS NEEDED, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.

AND WE COULD ALSO SAY, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT RULING OUT THAT A BOARD COULD CONTRIBUTE.

COULD CONTRIBUTE.

SO WE COULD SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA PROVE UP TO 75 YES.

WITH CONTINGENT THAT IF A BOARD PARTICIPATES ARE WE WOULD PRO RAT IT DOWN TO 50% OF THAT.

WE CAN DO THAT.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

WE CAN STILL ASK THEM IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE MM-HMM .

YES.

AT THEIR NEXT MEETING.

YEP.

UM, GO AHEAD.

COUPLE POINTS.

UM, SO FIRST, UH, I WAS PART OF THAT GROUP BACK 20 19, 20 18 WHEN WE ACTUALLY BROACHED THIS WHOLE SUBJECT.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

UH, A LOT HAS CHANGED IN THE CITY.

UM, BUT WHAT HAS NOT AND WHAT IS STILL A CONCERN AND WAS A CONCERN BACK THEN IS THE RATIO OF THE REVENUES TO THE CITY AND THE WAY THE MAKEUP OF THE, THE LAND, THE PROPERTY, HOW MUCH OF IT IS DEDICATED TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND HOW MUCH OF IT IS TO COMMERCIAL MM-HMM .

AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, REVENUE GENERATING CAPACITY THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO HAVE A PRETTY DIVERSE TAX BASE.

UH, THE CHALLENGE TO BEING, HAVING A MAJORITY, UH, LET'S SAY 70 PLUS

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PERCENT RESIDENTIAL, IS THAT WE'RE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

AND OVER THE LONG TERM, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN AFFORD TO SUSTAIN ROADS AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND ALL THE SERVICES.

SO THAT WAS THE DANGER SIGNAL THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS BACK THEN.

THAT DANGER SIGNAL IS ACTUALLY STRONGER TODAY BECAUSE FIVE PLUS YEARS HAVE PASSED AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE COMMERCIAL INDU INDUSTRIAL AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO DIVERSIFY THAT TAX BASE.

UH, INSTEAD WE'VE SEEN MUCH MORE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES AND NOW APARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GRABBING ALL THAT PROPERTY.

AND WE DON'T HA YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE RUNNING OUTTA ROOM TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO FLAG THAT AS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN AND IT CONTINUES TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN.

UH, TIP DID HELP TO SET THE STRATEGY AND TO KIND OF POINT THE WAY TO WHERE WE SHOULD GO TO, TO, TO, TO ADDRESS ALL THAT.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW ON THAT JOURNEY.

RIGHT.

AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STRATEGY THAT WAS PRESENTED.

IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE REFRESHING IT, BUT I'M STILL CURIOUS AS TO, WELL, HOW, HOW MUCH DID THAT HELP TO ACTUALLY CHANGE THE PATH THAT WE WERE ON THAT MANY SAW WAS ESSENTIALLY A TRAIN WRECK.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, DELAYS AND ALL THAT, JUST AGAIN, TO ME RING DANGEROUS SIGNALS BECAUSE THAT'S JUST MORE TIME THAT ELAPSES WITHOUT US HAVING THE KIND OF INTERVENTION THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

AND I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR WE ARE IN THAT INTERVENTION, THAT PATH OF INTERVENTION.

SO THAT'S THE CAUTIONARY POINT THAT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I SHARE.

YEAH.

ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IN THE PROPOSAL WAS THEY PLAN TO GO THROUGH AND PREPARE A SCORECARD THAT DOCUMENTS ACCOMPLISHMENTS FROM THE CURRENT PLAN, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IF ANY WERE ACCOMPLISHED AND THEN DEVELOP A NEW SET OF, UH, ANOTHER MATRIX TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND TOMMY, YOU MAY RECALL THAT ONE OF THE, UH, POINTS THAT I MADE WAY BACK THEN WAS WE NEED A SCORECARD.

WE NEED METRICS, WE NEED THINGS THAT TELL US ARE WE ON THE PATH TO SUCCEEDING OR ARE WE STUCK? AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE STILL THE SCORECARDS AND THE METRICS THAT, THAT HELP US KIND OF ADDRESS THOSE CHALLENGES, BUT THAT COULD BE NOTED AS A PRIORITY TOO.

IT WAS A PRIORITY.

OH, .

OKAY.

I, I THINK IT'S ANOTHER THING TO, YOU KNOW, REASON TO START THAT PROCESS.

WE CAN GET THESE SCORECARDS, WE CAN GET THIS DATA, SEE HOW WE'RE DOING BEFORE WE DECIDE WHERE WE'RE GOING.

AND ALL THAT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT.

EVEN IF WE ONLY GET TO STEP EIGHT, STEP EIGHT PER SE, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S STILL GONNA HAVE A LOT OF VALUE TO UH, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT EVERY DAY HERE OR EVERY MONTH CASE.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS, THAT DID COME OUT OF THAT WORK WAS, FOR EXAMPLE, HEY, YOU GOT ALL THIS LAND OUT IN YOUR ETJ, RIGHT? DO WE ENGAGE LANDOWNERS IN THE ETJ TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE AND IF WE COULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO LOOK AT THAT, THE PART PART OF THEIR PRO THEIR LAND BE DEVELOPED FOR COMMERCIAL INSTEAD OF JUST ALL RESIDENTIAL.

WAS EXAMPLE ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

WELL, ALONG THE WAY THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AND, AND DECISION MADE.

WELL, LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT THE ETJ, LET'S JUST WORRY ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

WELL, IN THAT TIMEFRAME, WE LOST A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF LAND THAT WAS IN THE ETJ.

'CAUSE THE FOLKS WHO OWNED THAT DECIDED JUST COMPLETELY OPT OUT OF THE CITY OF RE AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES AND NOW THERE'S ANOTHER 13,000 HOMES COMING.

I THINK ONE COMMENT JUST BEFORE WE GO AHEAD, MAKE A MOTION, I'M JUST READING THROUGH THIS, JUST GOTTA BE CAREFUL HERE.

IT'S, 'CAUSE IT SAYS BASED ON THE QUOTE, THE THE $50,000 DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE LIKE WORKSHOPS.

IT'S TARGETED IN IT, IT DOES INCLUDE AN, UH, WORKSHOP IN THE BEGINNING, IN PERSON AND AT THE END.

UM, WE WERE JUST ADDED THE ADD-ONS FOR IF WE FELT IN BETWEEN THAT, THAT YOU WANTED TO COME TOGETHER AGAIN WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE WORKSHOPS ARE LIKE BROAD COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS OR THEY'RE TO BE DETERMINED BY US AT SOME POINT.

I THINK WE GET TO WORK, UM, YOU KNOW, ALTOGETHER TO DETERMINE A LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS AND THEN GO FROM THERE TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

WITH EVERYBODY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

BY THE WAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR THAT ALL THE POINTS THAT I MADE WAS UNDER THE, UM, THE STAFF THEN WAS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE STAFF TODAY.

SO, UH, I

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LOOK FORWARD TO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

STAFF TODAY HELPING US, UH, NAVIGATE THESE WATERS TO A MORE SUCCESSFUL CONCLUSION.

ALRIGHT, GOOD DISCUSSION.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE A DIRECTION THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON? SO THE, A BOARD POSTPONED THEIRS, WE HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING THE SAME.

OR, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR BUDGET, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FUND UP TO $75,000, UH, WITH THE INTENT OF ASKING THE A BOARD IF THEY'RE AMENABLE TO JOINING US AND SPLITTING THE COST WITH US AT THEIR NEXT MEETING, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THIS ATTACHED TIP STRATEGIES UP, UP TO, BUT NOT EXCEEDING THE $75,000 BUDGET.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE TIP STRATEGIES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE PROPOSAL WITH A BUDGET NOT TO EXCEED $75,000.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS? I HOPE A BOARD PARTICIPATES.

NOTHING LIKE A LITTLE PEER PRESSURE, HUH? ? UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.

THANK Y'ALL.

[ Business - E]

ITEM THREE E IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ADOPTION OF FTC RESOLUTION 2025 DASH OH SIX.

A RESOLUTION OF THE SRE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF THE CITY OF SRE, TEXAS APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE SRE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SMALL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

UM, ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO WE BROUGHT THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE, UM, SMALL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM, UM, DOCUMENT, UH, BEFORE YOU, UM, AFTER THAT MEETING, WE GOT GOOD FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL, UM, AND, AND SENT IT TO OUR LEGAL STAFF TO REVIEW, TO MAKE ANY EDITS.

UM, LUCKILY THEY ONLY HAD TWO REQUESTS.

UM, AND THAT WAS TO REDUCE THE FINALIZATION PERIOD FROM A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 364 DAYS DOWN TO 120 DAYS.

UM, THAT SEEMS TO BE COMMON IN THE CITIES THEY'VE WORKED WITH IN THESE TYPE OF DOCUMENTS.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WENT WITH.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE INCLUSION OF HOW MANY NEW FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WOULD BE CREATED.

UM, WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAD THE TOTAL PAYROLL AND TOTAL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, UM, BUT THEY WANTED THAT INCLUDED ON THE APPLICATION AS WELL.

UM, SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE LAST TIME, UH, THIS WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL.

UM, AND THE RESOLUTION IS HERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

MAKE A MOTION.

MAKE NO, NO, NO.

BUT I, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE, AGAIN, THANKS TO DEBORAH AND JENNIFER FOR ABSOLUTELY WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND ALONG WITH HAYDEN AND ANELLE, UH, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME.

UH, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE HELP OUR EXISTING LOCAL BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES, AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DO IT.

SO THANKS FOR ALL THE INPUT AND EFFORT Y'ALL PUT FORTH.

THANK YOU DEBORAH.

MM-HMM .

ABSOLUTELY.

YOU WANNA MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON IT? UH, NO.

IT WAS GREAT TO, UM, UH, WORK WITH, UM, UH, BOTH OF THEM ON, ON DOING THIS.

IT WAS, UH, NICE TO, UM, GET BACK INTO DOING THE SORTS OF THINGS I DID IN MY CAREER NOW THAT I'M RETIRED.

SO I DID, UH, LIKE DOING THAT.

UM, AND WE HAD, UM, A GOOD HAYDEN HAD, UH, CREATED, UH, ORIGINALLY A GOOD, A GOOD DRAFT FOR US TO WORK ON.

AND SO I THINK THAT, AND I, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE AT THE MEETINGS, UM, IN MY, YOU KNOW, PAST, UH, CAREER EXPERIENCE IN FAST GROWTH COMMUNITIES.

IF YOU FORGET THAT YOU HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES, UM, YOU LOSE YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU LOSE A BIG PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY CHARACTER AND THEY MAY NOT BE ADDING TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS TO THE SALES TAXES BECAUSE THEY'RE GROWING AND THEY'RE, UM, BUT THEY ADD COMMUNITY CHARACTER.

AND THAT HAS, UM, YOU CAN'T BE A VISIONARY COMMUNITY UNLESS YOU RESPECT AND, UM, AND VALUE YOUR SMALL BUSINESSES.

SO THAT WAS, I WAS GLAD TO BE INVOLVED IN IT.

I'M SORRY THAT JEN ISN'T HERE TONIGHT TO BE PART OF, UM, TO BE PART OF THIS.

ALRIGHT.

WELL SAID DEBORAH.

THANK YOU.

SO IN ADDITION TO THIS PROGRAM BEFORE US TODAY, WHAT OTHER INCIDENT PROGRAMS DOES CITY

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OF SHORE HAVE FOR BUSINESSES IN TERMS OF INCENTIVIZING DEVELOPMENT? I JUST WOULD, THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS THE PRIMARY INCENTIVE POLICY THAT WE PASSED, I GUESS LAST YEAR NOW MM-HMM .

UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT METHODS WITHIN THAT POLICY THAT'S OUTLINED WHETHER THREE 80 AGREEMENTS ARE, UH, INCENTIVE OR, UH, INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS THAT WE CAN DO HERE.

UM, WITH THE EDCS, TURS PIS, THERE'S A HUGE LIST, BUT, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO DOCUMENTS.

RIGHT.

UM, DOES, IS THERE, IS THERE A CLEAN BREAK BETWEEN THE TWO IN TERMS OF, IF IT'S NOT IN THIS PROGRAM, IT'S IN THE OTHER ONE? I, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN THE TWO.

THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PRIMARY INCENTIVE POLICY ARE SO MUCH HIGHER THAN MOST OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES.

MM-HMM .

UM, COULD, COULD REACH, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY PRETTY BROAD.

IT'S, IT DOESN'T ONLY TARGET, YOU KNOW, UH, OWNERS OF THEIR, THEIR INDIVIDUAL SHOPS, BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN, UM, IN LINE AT, UH, DIFFERENT RETAIL CENTERS OR, UM, SOME SMALLER CHAINS WITH, UM, I THINK LOCATIONS, I THINK WE HAD IT CAPPED AT 20 LOCATIONS.

SO IT, IT'S PRETTY BROAD AND, AND REALLY JUST AIMED AT UPDATING THE CURB APPEAL OF A LOT OF OUR OLDER OR AGING BUSINESSES IN TOWN.

I THINK.

OH, OH, I'M SORRY.

UM, ONE THING TO MAYBE ADD TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, UH, GETTING BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE ASKING, UM, TO MAYBE ADD TO THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT WE DID TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS IN THERE, YOU MIGHT NOTICE SOME, SOME STIPULATIONS ABOUT, UH, IT CAN'T BE A HOME-BASED BUSINESS.

IT CAN'T HAVE LESS THAN ONE PHYSICAL LOCATION.

IT CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN 25 FRANCHISE LOCATIONS.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY, AND UH, KELSEY BROUGHT THOSE UP WHEN, WHEN SHE CAME TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY PART OF THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATIONS, UM, NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.

AND IF YOU'RE A PART OF NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK, AND THE SHOP SMALL, WHICH IS A NATIONAL EFFORT USED BY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITIES, PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, THOSE ARE THE STIPULATIONS THAT THEY GO BY.

AND SO WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD JUST BE REASONABLE TO PUT THOSE IN THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT, SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO, WHAT I'M LEADING INTO IS THAT IT MAY SEEM A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AND IT ALSO DOESN'T UNLIKE, UH, SHORE FAST TRACK, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE HOME-BASED BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT BE GROWING.

AND SO IF WE'RE GONNA THINK ABOUT THINGS WE MIGHT WANNA DO IN THE FUTURE, UM, AS FAR AS PROJECTS OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT CAN, UM, UH, THAT CAN COME UP AT A LATER DATE, I THINK IT'S GREAT TO SEE.

BUT I ALSO JUST WANNA COMMENT ON, WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE, NOT SO MUCH FOR HERE, BUT ALSO I KNOW IT'S BEEN RECORDED, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAT COULD BE DONE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED WITH REGARDS TO THREE 80 GRANTS.

IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT JUST THE SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR, FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SO MUCH MORE OUT THERE THAT WE CAN, IN PARTNERSHIP, WHAT WE HAVE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE TO DO.

SO I, I DIDN'T SEE A WHOLE LOT ON CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

ARE WE JUST GOING BY APPLICABLE LAW ON THAT? OR WHERE, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM? ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST INFLICT, CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITHIN THE BOARD ITSELF? IN RELATION TO THESE OR THE CITY OR THE, THE CITY? YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CITY PROGRAM, LIKE, LIKE JUST, LET'S GIVE AN EXAMPLE FOR TOMMY RIGHT HERE.

SO I WANT TO PUT A NEW CIVIL CORE SIGN UP ON TOP OF MY OFFICE BUILDING, AND I'M GONNA APPLY FOR THE GRANT.

WHAT HAPPENS? I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT.

I MEAN, I THINK I SHOULD RIGHTLY BE ABLE TO APPLY, BUT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CONSIDER OR ACT ON THAT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT I WOULD, BUT THAT'S JUST A, THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? OKAY.

SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE SAYING ANYONE CAN APPLY, BUT APPLICABLE LAW ON THE BOARD WILL BE THE ON, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO APPROACH THAT CONSIDERATION YOURSELF.

YEAH, SURE.

AND OUR ATTORNEYS WOULD REVIEW ANY NOTIFICATION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

ANY APPLICATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE WOULD, WOULD GET THE STAMPED.

I'M JUST SEEING HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING IT.

SURE, SURE.

I'M JUST SEEING HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING IT.

THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS.

UM, CITY COUNCIL HAS CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORMS THAT THEY SIGN.

UM, THE BOARD, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THIS RENDITION OF THE BYLAW UPDATE, BUT THERE IS, THERE ARE PROTECTIONS FOR, FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST BETWEEN THE BOARDS, RIGHT? WE HAVE A CONFLICT.

RIGHT.

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YOU WOULD, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IF BOARD MEMBER, IF YOU PERCEIVE YOU'RE IN A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER TO BRING THAT, UH, TO THE FOREFRONT SO THAT YOU CAN SIGN THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTS, WHICH THAT DOES HAPPEN QUITE FREQUENTLY, UH, WITH DIFFERENT BOARDS AND ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, I MEAN, THE CHAMBER BOARD THAT I'M ON IN SUGARLAND AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY MEETING, THEY ASKED, DOES ANYONE HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO STATE IT SO YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF IT APPROPRIATELY, AND THEN YOU MOVE ON.

YEAH.

I, I'VE, I'VE TALKED ABOUT INCENTIVE PROGRAMS MANY TIMES, GRANTS, UM, HERE AT THE EDC AND, UM, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THE VERY FIRST THING TO BE ABLE TO BE GRANTED, UH, APPROVAL ON AN INCENTIVE OR A GRANT PROGRAM FOR A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY IS YOU HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

THE SECOND THING IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONSENSUS.

I'M GONNA SAY CONSENSUS ON IT.

THAT MAY BE CITY COUNCIL, THAT MAY BE EDC, THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO APPROVE YOU OR DISAPPROVE YOU FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND, UM, I JUST PERSONALLY THINK IT SHOWS FAVORITISM.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THESE PROGRAMS. AND SO WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, UM, BUT THESE PROGRAMS GO TO VERY SPECIFIC ENTITIES WITH, THAT ARE PROVIDING AND REQUESTING VERY SPECIFIC AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND PROGRAMS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS SAYS THAT THE PROGRAM CAN'T BE STARTED UNTIL, YOU KNOW, IF THEY COME AND ASK FOR THIS, THE PROGRAM CAN'T BE STARTED WHENEVER THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT.

IT DELAYS DEVELOPMENT IN SOME CASES.

OKAY.

IN PARTICULAR, IT'S JUST A TIME PERIOD IN THIS CASE.

BUT IT, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, , THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT THE PROGRAMS WITH INCENTIVES THAT HAVE, UH, INNATE THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE PROGRAMS. AND WHEN COMING FROM A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, I JUST, I THINK IT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR THOSE SORTS OF DOWNSIDES.

I'VE PUT THAT FORWARD ON SOME, ON OTHER INCENTIVE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S CALLED A GRANT IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE SAME THING APPLIES.

SO I JUST, UH, WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.

UM, THE, FOR THIS SPECIFIC, UH, GRANT PROGRAM, THE, UM, ITEM IN THERE THAT SAYS IT HAS TO, THE BUSINESS HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, WAS ONLY TO PROTECT OURSELVES.

THAT THE INVESTMENT WE WOULD BE MAKING WOULD BE TO A, A BUSINESS THAT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF SUCCEEDING.

SO, NO, NO.

I'M SORRY.

I I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T MEAN THE BUSINESS ITSELF HAD TO BE AROUND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

THE PROJECT, IT SAYS IT IS, IT'S A BOX THAT'S CHECKED, RIGHT? IT IT'S, SO THIS PROGRAM IS REIMBURSEMENT BASED? YES.

YES.

SO, AND THAT'S JUST, WHICH IS VERY TRADITIONAL FOR AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM.

YES.

YES.

YEAH.

FOR AN INS A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, THAT'S REALLY THE, THE CLEANEST WAY FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT.

VERY MUCH SO.

UM, SO THEY'RE TRADITIONALLY ALL REIMBURSEMENT BASED.

THESE ARE, THESE AREN'T BUSINESSES THAT WERE LAUNCHING FROM THE GROUND UP.

THESE ARE, YOU NEED A NEW SIGN, YOU NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE, THEY'VE ALREADY WAITED TO THIS POINT.

THIS IS JUST GIVING THEM KIND OF A PUSH ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT OUR INTENT TO, TO DELAY ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST GIVING AN AVENUE FOR, UM, SOME FUNDING TO BE PUMPED BACK INTO THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE MADE RE WHAT RE IS.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE PROJECT IN, IN THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COSTS, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS, WILL THE PROPOSAL PROJECT BEGIN ONLY AFTER THE GRANT APPROVAL? YES.

NO NOTE WORK INITIATED PRIOR TO GRANT APPROVAL IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

YES.

SO, AND WE'RE GIVING OURSELVES 120 DAYS TO DO IT.

SO IN ES IN ESSENCE WE'RE SAYING, COME TO US WITH A PROJECT, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET STARTED FOR 120 DAYS.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY POINT.

UM, WE'RE NOT EVEN JUST SAYING THAT ANYBODY CAN GO AND DO WORK AND COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, WE DID THIS WORK.

UM, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN, IN, UM, APPROVING AND I UNDER, AND, AND WE'RE DOING THAT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE POTENTIALLY MAKING DECISIONS TO DO SOME OF THAT WORK BASED UPON IF THEY GET GRANT APPROVAL OR NOT.

AND WE, I UNDERSTAND THAT UNFORTUNATELY, GOVERNMENT MONEY USUALLY HAS A STRING OR TWO .

THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES.

ONE THING ALSO THAT WE GIVE YOU A CHECKBOOK.

HOW ABOUT THAT? ?

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DOES IT HAVE MONEY IN IT? MM-HMM .

A LITTLE, ONE THING THAT, UH, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS IN THE, UH, UH, ACTION ITEM IF WE GET TO THAT POINT, IS TO DECLARE AN EFFECTIVE START DATE.

SO I GUESS WE NEED TO, THAT, THAT WOULD JUST BE WHEN THE RESOLUTION IS PASSED.

OH, SO LIKE, IMMEDIATELY.

SURE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT NEEDED TO BE JANUARY 1ST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU COULD IF YOU, IF YOU WANT, BUT GENERALLY THE, THE WAY WE DO IT IS THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS THE DATE THAT THE, THE AGREEMENT IS APPROVED.

OKAY.

OR THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED.

OKAY.

AND THEN JUST HOW MUCH, WHAT WAS OUR BUDGET ALLOTTED FOR THIS? SHOULD THIS PROGRAM PASS? WHAT'S OUR BUDGET? UH, $50,000.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT IF MARK, WE FIND THERE'S INHERENT ISSUES OR PROBLEMS WITH IT, UH, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO REFINE THIS.

SURE.

OR IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FUNDED THE NEXT YEAR.

AND, AND I THINK THE PROGRAM THAT'S PUT FORTH TO US DOES A GREAT JOB OF TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS BEFORE IT EVER COMES IN FRONT OF US.

THERE'S STILL A PRINCIPAL MATTER THERE.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? DOES THE BOARD HAVE A DESIRED DIRECTION FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT PROGRAM, UH, PRESENTED TO CLARIFY, TO MAKE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE, I WOULD JUST, YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY FDC RESOLUTION 2025 DASH OH SIX.

THAT'LL WORK.

MM-HMM .

I READ IT ALL FOR YOU EARLIER.

WHEREAS THAT'S WHY I GET PAID SO MUCH.

.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE, THE FTC BOARD B APPROVES RESOLUTION 25 20 25 DASH ZERO SIX, THE RESOLUTION OF THE F DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE CITY OF F TEXAS APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE F SHEET DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SMALL BUSINESS CURRENT PROGRAM, AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

MOTIONS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? OPPOSED.

ONE.

OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

I APPRECIATE YOU MARK, THOUGH, BRINGING THOSE POINTS UP.

AND I THINK HAYDEN AND ANELLE, IF YOU CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY GIVE SOME ATTENTION THAT THOSE, AND IF IT IS AN ISSUE OR PROBLEMS THAT WE DISCOVER, YOU BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND LET US RECONSIDER THAT AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

AND, AND LET ME JUST SAY THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK Y'ALL DID ON THAT .

NO WORRIES.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM

[ Business - F]

THREE F, EXECUTIVE SESSION.

PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0 7, 2 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT, DISCUSS THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY EDC OWNED PROPERTY 3 0 6 0 3 FM 10 93 AND 3 0 6 1 9 FM 10 93 RE, TEXAS 7 7 4 4 1.

WE'LL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:18 PM ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:31 PM

[ Business - G]

AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY ACTION TO TAKE.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE BOARD HAS ON EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT IS OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE

[ Recurring Items - A (Part 2 of 2)]

ON TO ITEM FOUR.

RECURRING ITEMS FOUR A IS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REPORT.

OH, GOSH.

YEAH, I CAN SEE, UM, SORRY.

UM, WE DID, UH, GO THROUGH THE CIP UPDATE EARLIER WITH MATTHEW, UM, BUT FOR THE WEST PARK TOLLWAY STUDY, UM, WE DID RECEIVE, UM, SCHEMATICS FOR BOTH AN OVERPASS AND AN UNDERPASS LAST WEEK.

UM, WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING, UM, PAY OR, UH, COST ESTIMATES LATER THIS WEEK, UM, SO WE CAN GET A, A CLEARER PICTURE, BUT AT LEAST IT IS FEASIBLE TO, TO SOME DEGREE, TO DO BOTH AN OVERPASS AND OVER AND UNDERPASS, UM, AT BOTH WALLACE AND MAINE.

UM, SO AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION, UM, ESPECIALLY COST ESTIMATES, WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU GUYS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH, UM, OUR ENGINEERS ON A WEEKLY, AT LEAST BASIS TO GET UPDATES, UH, ON THE STUDY.

I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SCHEDULED THIS WEDNESDAY, UM, TO TALK WITH THEM AND HOPEFULLY GET THOSE, THE COST ESTIMATES FOR THE PROJECT.

IS THERE A PLAN AT SOME POINT?

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IS THERE A PLAN AT SOME POINT TO JUST BRIEF US ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THE YEP, ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY INVITE, UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO COME IN.

SO THE, THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN MYSELF, UM, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, KELSEY, AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UH, CLIFF, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE CLIFF COME IN AND, AND GIVE A PRESENTATION, UM, IF NOT FROM HIM, FROM THE ENGINEER TEAM, UH, THEMSELVES.

BUT JUST ON THE TIMING OF THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OFFER UP, AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW, OTHERS WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, BUT IF, IF IT, IF THE TIMING NEEDED TO BE OR YOU NEEDED INPUT TO FROM THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, IF A SPECIAL MEETING OR AN ALTERNATE DATE WAS NEEDED, THEN I'M SURE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NORMAL, UH, MONTHLY MEETING.

SURE.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING, WE DID DISCUSS, UM, UH, KELSEY, MY TRIPS TO, UH, RETAIL LIVE IN AUSTIN.

UM, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

GOT A LOT OF CONNECTIONS WITH, UM, SOME POTENTIAL RETAILERS IN TOWN.

UM, AND YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A, UH, KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD IN AUSTIN.

I, UH, I DO JUST WANNA SAY, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, RETAIL STRATEGIES, DEPTH THAT THEY PUT INTO, UM, THERE'S SUMMARIES.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S GREAT AND IT'S HELPED US CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE RETAILERS.

UM, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL FOLLOW UP MEETINGS, UM, FOR SOME UNIQUE OR, OR HIGHER ENDS, UH, RETAILERS THAT WE MET AT THE RETAIL LIVE EVENT.

UM, SO WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED AS THOSE CONVERSATIONS CONTINUE.

I DON'T IF YOU HAVE, UH, AND JUST ON THAT, UM, THE REPORTS THAT YOU SAW ARE CONFIDENTIAL, BUT, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR THERE'S MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

UM, THEY'VE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH, AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO MODIFY THAT REPORT IN ANY WAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO, TO REALLY MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING THE FULL PICTURE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

UM, AS, UH, AS YOU WORK WITH THEM, UH, DO YOU EVER LOOK AT THE LENS OF, UM, THE KINDS OF RETAIL, UH, THAT WOULD RETURN A HIGHER REVENUE TO THE CITY THAN OTHERS? TRUE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE PRIORITIES, RIGHT? YEP.

DEFINITELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND, AND, AND BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THE RETAILERS THAT WE PURSUE IN RELATION TO PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY EITHER HAVE ON THE BOOKS OR, OR ANTICIPATE COMING ONLINE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

UM, SO BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

UM, I'LL, I'LL SAY THIS, I'LL HAVE THAT AT THE END.

SURE.

OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM FOUR, UH, .

SO WE, UM, JUST HAD THAT EVENT THE WEEKEND BEFORE THIS LAST ONE, AND IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS.

IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED FOR A FIRST YEAR EVENT.

DEBRA, THANK YOU FOR, FOR ATTENDING IT.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD ON, YOU KNOW, YOUR THOUGHTS OR ANY OBSERVATIONS THAT'D BE NO, IT WAS, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

UM, I ENJOYED MYSELF AND FELL IN LOVE WITH THE BAND.

I'M NOW FOLLOWING ONE OF THE BANDS, , I'M NOW FOLLOWING THEM.

.

THEY WERE GREAT.

YEAH, IT WAS VERY LIVELY.

THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS IN OUR COMMUNITY OUT THERE DANCING, TONS OF KIDDOS AND FAMILIES JUST MAKING MEMORIES, AND IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED IT TO BE FOR A FIRST YEAR.

SO, UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THAT'LL LOOK LIKE NEXT YEAR AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW THE EVENT.

UH, AND THEN ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

UM, SO CHRISTMAS EVENTS, WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT IN OUR, UM, EVENTS DISCUSSION.

THE NEXT, I GUESS MARK SAVE THE DATE ON YOUR CALENDARS WOULD BE DECEMBER 6TH, IS WHEN WE ARE PLANNING ON HAVING OUR CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING HERE AT THE CITY HALL COMPLEX.

AND IT'LL BE FROM FOUR TO 7:00 PM SO WE'LL MAKE SURE TO SHARE MORE OF THOSE DETAILS.

AND THEN, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S OUR INTENT TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PARTNER WITH, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND BUSINESSES TO BRING A REALLY ROBUST CALENDAR OF ALL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES FOR DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NEW, WE KIND OF LAUNCHED, YOU KNOW, HOLIDAYS IN SHORE AND WE HAVE BANNERS AND A QR CODE WHERE, UM, AT THE TREE LIGHTING OUR, UM, RESIDENTS CAN KIND OF SCAN THAT AND ANY BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY CAN SEND US ANY EVENT THEY'RE HOSTING AT, UH, THEIR LOCATION.

AND WE'LL ADD IT TO THAT CALENDAR SO THAT WHEN OUR FAMILIES SEE, THEY CAN SEE EVERY SINGLE NIGHT WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND TOWN AND GO SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES WITH THEIR FAMILY.

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AND LASTLY, UH, ITEM SIX, UPCOMING CONFERENCES.

UH, HAYDEN AND I HAVE TEDC, OCTOBER 28TH THROUGH THE 31ST IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE'LL BE ATTENDING, UH, THAT WITH ALL OF OUR COLLEAGUES IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

AND THEN WE, AFTER THAT, WE HAVE T-M-L-E-D-C ON NOVEMBER 14TH THAT SOME OF YOU WILL BE , UH, GOING WITH US TOO.

SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO, TO BOTH OF THOSE.

AND IF, IF I CAN JUST, UM, ADD ONE THING TOO, I CAN'T GO TO EITHER OF THOSE BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER COMMITMENTS I HAVE, BUT I DID GO TO, JUST AS A REFRESHER COURSE FOR MYSELF, I DID A DAY LONG VIRTUAL, UM, UH, UH, WAS IT BY, IT WAS BY THE COMPTROLLER? YES, IT WAS BY THE OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER.

UM, JUST ON ALL OF THE BASICS OF ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE CHAPTER THREE EIGHTIES AND A'S, AND B'S AND, AND, AND ALL OF THAT.

AND IT WAS A GOOD REFRESHER FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN OUT OF THE BUSINESS FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEY PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND FORWARDED IT TO ME, AND I THINK I FORWARDED IT TO YOU.

SO IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN THAT, JUST AS A, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW INFORMATION OR AS A REFRESHER, IT, I MEAN, IT WAS FOUR HOURS, SO IT'S FOUR HOURS OF POWER POWERPOINT, BUT UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY ATTENDING IT, UM, ON, ON ZOOM, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SKIP THROUGH THE THINGS YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT.

BUT IT WAS, IT WAS VERY, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS GOOD FOR ME TO, TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, AND IT WAS, UH, NICELY PRESENTED, EFFECTIVELY PRE PRESENTED.

THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET IT'S GREAT TRAINING AND COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE COMPTROLLER WOULD BE, YEAH.

PRETTY USEFUL.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU.

YEAH, IF WE COULD GET THAT SENT OUT, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.

UH, YES, WE'LL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, JUST A REMINDER, YOU DO HAVE A TRAINING IN, UH, TRAVEL BUDGET AS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD.

AND SO IF THERE'S ANY MATERIALS, ANY OTHER TRAININGS THAT YOU THINK ARE RELEVANT, UM, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO REGISTER.

YOU COVER THAT COST.

UM, AND ONE OF THOSE IS TDC IS HOSTING A VIRTUAL SALES TAX WORKSHOP.

UM, AND YOU KIND OF DO IT AT YOUR OWN PACE.

IT'S, IT OPENS DECEMBER 1ST THROUGH THE 14TH.

UM, SO THEY UPLOAD ALL THE MATERIALS AND THEN THEY DO CLOSE THAT OUT WITH A VIRTUAL, UM, SESSION WHERE YOU CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, JOIN THE CALL AND A ASK ANY QUESTIONS, UM, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU FIND WHILE YOU'RE REVIEWING THOSE MATERIALS.

UM, SO THERE'S A COST TO THAT.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO REGISTER YOU, PLEASE JUST SEND US AN EMAIL AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

OKAY.

THAT'S SOME, SOME GREAT, GREAT REPORT.

THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT.

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ALL RIGHT.

FOUR B, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE A FEW STARTED ALREADY.

WE'LL PUT SOME MORE ON THERE.

, ANYTHING ELSE SPECIFIC? THIS, THIS IS JUST A CONSIDERATION FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IS, UH, SIMILAR TO RETAIL STRATEGIES OR IS THERE ANYTHING INDUSTRIAL LIKE THAT? I, I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THERE IS A, UH, AN ORGANIZATION OUT THERE SPECIFICALLY THAT WOULD, UM, RECOMMEND RE TO INDUSTRIAL TYPE APPLICATIONS, INDUSTRIAL RECRUITER, ADVANCED MAR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING NEEDS.

YEAH, SO I, I, I THINK THAT, UH, AS A FUTURE GENERAL ITEM, JUST REVIEWING, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL OPTIONS, MAYBE CONTACTING HIM AND SEEING IF THEY'D LIKE TO COME TALK TO US.

SURE.

GOOD DEAL.

IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SAY AS WELL, I THINK ON THAT MAP, THE, THE, THE, THE ZONE MAP, HOW MUCH OF ACTUAL FULL SHARE OR ETJ IS ACTUALLY LISTED AS INDUSTRIAL? NOT, YEAH, THERE'S SOME SOUTH OF HERE, I THINK.

YEAH, I KNOW IT'S NOT A LOT.

WE CAN COVER ALL THAT DURING THAT AGENDA ITEM.

YEP.

IF YOU DO COME UP WITH ANY OTHER ITEMS, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL IT TO ANELLE HAYDEN AND MYSELF.

I WILL DO OUR BEST TO GET THAT ADDED.

UH,

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FOUR FORESEE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SO I MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THE SCARECROW FESTIVAL IS OC THIS SATURDAY, OCTOBER 25TH FROM 11 TO TWO AT SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO THAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN I BELIEVE EARLY VOTING STARTED THIS WEEK.

THERE'S AN ELECTION TODAY OR TODAY? TODAY, YEAH.

UH, NOVEMBER 4TH, I BELIEVE IS THE ACTUAL DATE.

BUT EARLY VOTING STARTED TODAY, THE 31ST.

UH, GET EDUCATED.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PROPOSITIONS ON THERE.

AND ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? THE FULLER POLICE FOUNDATION'S GUMBO COOKOFF, UM, IS SATURDAY NOVEMBER 8TH FROM

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ONE TO 5:00 PM AT CROSS CREEK RANCH.

UH, GREAT REPRESENTATION OF GUMBOS.

I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE JUDGED IT BEFORE, UM, WHICH WAS WELL WORTH IT.

WAIT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THERE, .

UM, IT WAS WITH MY STOMACH AT A CERTAIN POINT.

UM, NO, IT, IT'S WONDERFUL.

UM, AND A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF GUMBO.

THERE IS.

THE DEFINITION OF GUMBO IS SOUP THAT INCLUDES OKRA, , A LITTLE FUN FACT.

UM, BUT NO, COME SUPPORT THE, UH, THE POLICE FOUNDATION.

IT'S A GREAT EVENT.

AND BOILED EGGS TOO, RIGHT? NO, NO POTATO SALAD.

I THOUGHT SOME OF THEM DID HAVE BOILED EGGS IN IT.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN'T, BUT POTATO SALAD.

YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

SORRY.

DON'T GET ME OFF.

I DIGRESS.

WHAT CAN I SAY? I'M HUNGRY.

I DIDN'T EAT BEFORE THE MEETING.

.

THANKS, MARK.

YOU DID THAT ON PURPOSE.

AMEN.

ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

UH, ITEM FIVE IS ADJOURNMENT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

OPPOSED? WERE ADJOURNED AT 7:43 PM THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU ALL.