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EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS.

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SO DIDN'T KNOW IF, UH, IT WAS TIME YET, BUT,

[i. Call to Order]

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

UH, THIS IS A SPECIAL RE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION MEETING ON MONDAY, JUNE THE 30TH, 2025.

WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, OUR CITIZENS' COMMENTS OR ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THERE IS NOT.

ALL RIGHT.

[Business - A (Part 1 of 2)]

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS OUR BUSINESS.

THREE A IS WELCOME INTRODUCTION OF NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

SO AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, THEY DID REVIEW OUR BOARD POSITIONS AND, UH, THEY FILLED US UP WITH THE SLATE OF, I THINK SOME GREAT, UH, BOARD MEMBERS.

UH, I WANT TO, ON BEHALF OF THE B BOARD, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE REPEAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND ALSO OUR NEW MEMBERS.

SO SOME OF SWITCH ROLES, UH, AND, BUT I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME YOU AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAYBE JUST OFFER, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS, UH, INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS, UH, WE'LL LET YOU DO THAT.

MAYBE WE'LL JUST START ON THE END AND, UH, WE'LL START WITH ANDREW, YOU WANNA TELL US MAYBE WHO YOU ARE, HOW LONG YOU'VE LIVED IN SHORE, AND, UM, JUST AS A QUICK INTRODUCTION.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

UH, ANDREW VAN CHOW, UH, RESIDENT HERE IN CROSS CREEK.

IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? NO, NOT YET.

.

I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE HIM, UH, UH, ORIENTATION, BUT IT'S BEING RECORDED.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ANDREW VAN CHOW.

BEEN A RESIDENT OF, UH, CROSS CREEK, UH, SINCE 2012, UH, SINCE MOVING FROM THE CHICAGO AREA HERE.

UH, BACKGROUND IS WORKING IN THE ENERGY SECTOR, UH, FOR 25 PLUS YEARS.

UH, RAN, UH, MY OWN BUSINESS.

UH, AND THEN, UH, FOR THE PAST, UH, THREE YEARS, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING AS, UH, UH, STAFF, UH, FOR, UH, FORT BEND COUNTY, COMMISSIONER ANDY MYERS, PRECINCT THREE.

UM, HAVE SERVED IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES, UH, IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS A PAST, UH, BOARD AND CHAIRMAN OF THE, UH, WHAT'S NOW THE FULL CIRCADIA, UH, CHAMBER FOR COMMERCE.

UM, AND, UH, SERVED THREE TERMS ON THE EDCA BOARD.

UH, AND SO IT'S, UH, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED FOR HAVING BEEN NOMINATED AND, UH, UH, UH, OFFERED THIS ROLE TO SERVE ON THE B BOARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

WELCOME, ANDREW.

THANK YOU, ANDREW.

THANK YOU, TONY.

WE'LL JUST GO STRAIGHT DOWN THE LINE HERE SINCE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW FOLKS GIVE YOU A GOOD FLAVOR OF EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD.

HEY, GOOD EVENING.

I'M LEE O'BRIEN.

I MOVED TO SHORE IN 2017.

UM, I, I WORK IN THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY, UM, 10 YEARS WORKING OFFSHORE AND OIL RIGS.

AND THEN THE LAST 20 YEARS AS, UH, IN CAPITAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

UM, I SERVED TWO YEARS ON THE PARKS AND REC AND THEN MOVED ON TO THE B BOARD.

UH, THIS IS MY, THIS'LL BE MY FOURTH YEAR.

UH, FIRST TWO YEARS SERVED AS VICE PRESIDENT, AND THEN LAST YEAR WAS EX OFFICIO, AND THEN I'VE BEEN REELECTED FOR THIS TERM.

ALRIGHT, UH, MARK DERWIN.

UM, I'M A PETROLEUM ENGINEER BY TRADE.

THIS WILL BE MY THIRD TERM ON, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARDS.

UH, FIRST FOR A, AND THEN SEC.

AND THEN JUST RECENTLY FOR B, SO I'M RETURNING.

UM, I'M ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN CITY OF RE AND, UM, JUST REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M BLAKE KOEPKE, UM, HOME BUILDER BY TRADE.

UM, THIS IS MY SECOND TERM ON THE EDCB BOARD, UM, GOING ON YEAR FOUR NOW.

I'M EXCITED TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND SEE, WELL, WE CAN DO MOVING FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT.

TOMMY KIRKENDAL, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW ME, BUT, UM, I'VE WORKED ON THE B BOARD SINCE JUST ABOUT, ITS IN INCEPTION IN 2007.

UH, SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE IN FUL, BUT, UH, I'M EXCITED TO, UH, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ON THE B BOARD, UH, AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU.

JENNIFER.

UH, MY NAME'S JENNIFER HAGERMAN.

I, UH, AM ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN DOWNTOWN FULL.

SURE.

UM, I'M STARTING MY SECOND TERM, UH, ON THE A DCB BOARD.

BEFORE THAT, I SERVED FOUR YEARS ON PARKS AND REC.

UH, WE MOVED HERE IN 2016, RAISED MY BABIES HERE.

UH, WE LIVE IN FUL BOOK ON RE CREEK.

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UH, SO WE'RE RESIDENT BUSINESS OWNER, PARENT, SO WE'RE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER TERM.

ALSO, I'M PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE BUSINESSES THAT COME TO SHORE.

SO GO.

OKAY.

HI, I'M DEBORAH DRESCHER.

UM, I'M A A THREE YEAR RESIDENT, I GUESS A THREE YEAR RESIDENT OF, UM, OF SHORE.

I MOVED HERE FROM AUSTIN ABOUT FOUR YEARS AFTER RETIRING MY CAREER, MY ENTIRE CAREER, UH, SINCE THE, UM, I GUESS LATE 1980S, UH, HAS EITHER BEEN IN LOCAL, UM, STATE OR NATIONAL ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

SO I MOVED HERE FOR FAMILY REASONS AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE.

AND THEN I WAS GLAD.

I GUESS I'M IN THE, UH, MIDDLE OF MY FIRST TERM, SO I'M GLAD TO BE PARTICIPATING.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS EK TU AND I MOVED TO FULL SHARE IN 2023.

SO I'VE BEEN, I'M PROBABLY THE YOUNGEST IN FULL SHARE.

AND, UM, BY TRADE, I'M A PROJECT MANAGER.

I'VE BEEN A PROJECT MANAGER FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS NOW.

UM, I'M ALSO A SCRUM MASTER.

UM, I'M ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN SCHERE.

I DO PHOTOGRAPHY.

I'M ALSO A DJ AT NIGHT.

AND, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING FOR SCHERE.

THANK YOU.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.

I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT BOARD AND LOOK FORWARD TO ACCOMPLISHING A LOT OF THINGS WITH OUR EDC, UH, STAFF AND THE CITY WORKING TOGETHER.

[Business - B]

ITEM THREE B IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON NOMINATION AND ELECTION OF OFFICERS OF THE CORPORATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CORPORATION BYLAWS TO INCLUDE POSITIONS OF PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, SECRETARY, AND TREASURER.

AND JUST A WAY OF HOUSEKEEPING, LAST YEAR, I MEAN, I SERVED AS PRESIDENT, JOEL PATTERSON WAS VICE PRESIDENT, BLAKE WAS SECRETARY, AND THEN JAMES BUSIER WAS TREASURER.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED TO SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT ONCE AGAIN, IF, UH, THE BOARD SO CHOOSES, AND WE CAN DO THAT A SINGLE MOTION, OR IF YOU HAVE IDEAS ON A SLATE, YOU CAN PRESENT THAT AS WELL.

YEAH.

THIS TIME YOU, YOU CAN NOMINATE YOURSELF OR A FELLOW, UM, BOARD DIRECTOR FOR ANY OF THE POSITIONS, UH, OF NOMINATING THE FULL SLATE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE EASIEST.

UM, BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO TAKE IT POSITION BY POSITION.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR, YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT THE, UH, THAT WITH, WITH TOMMY AS PRESIDENT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT MY NAME FORWARD AS VICE PRESIDENT.

UH, AND, UH, I, I WOULD SUPPORT BLAKE AGAIN FOR SECRETARY.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, OFFER MYSELF UP AS TREASURER WITH, UM, JAMES NO LONGER ON THE BOARD.

OKAY.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TOMMY, PRESIDENT LEE, VICE PRESIDENT, BLAKE AS SECRETARY.

SECRETARY AND MARK AS TREASURER.

ANY OTHER SECOND? THE MOTION? DO WHAT? SECOND? THE MOTION.

OH, I WAS, I WAS JUST STATING IT OKAY.

TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR WAS THAT, DID SOMEONE WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION? UH, WE DO NEED A MOTION, ANDREW.

YEAH.

UH, AS EX OFFICIAL, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

SECOND, RIGHT? UH, I, I DON'T THINK SO.

CAN, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

NO.

SO THAT'S THE IDEA THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT OR IS THERE OTHER DISCUSSION OR NOMINATIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SLATE AS NOTED.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.

MOTION'S HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

FORTUNATELY FOR US, WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF THAT MAKES IT EASY ON ALL THESE POSITIONS.

? YES.

AND WE HAVE THE CITY BEHIND US AS WELL.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

THE MOTION CARRIES AND YOU STILL GET THE SAME PAY RATE NO MATTER WHICH POSITION YOU HOLD.

[Business - C]

ITEM NUMBER, UH, THREE C IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON MINUTES OF THE CORPORATION FOR THE MAY 19TH, 2025 MEETING.

AND I KNOW SOMETIMES WITH NEW BOARD MEMBERS, THERE MAY BE SOME DISCUSSION ON, WELL, I CAN'T VOTE ON THE MINUTES BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE TYPE ACT THAT YOU'RE PERFECTLY IN YOUR PURVIEW TO VOTE ON THAT, UM, AS A PART OF THE PROCESS OF OUR MEETING.

SO, AND OUR ATTORNEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I MISSTATED THAT.

NOPE, THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S WHAT'S CALLED MINISTERIAL.

SO ADMINISTRATIVE.

OKAY.

ARE

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THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NOT, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES.

MAY 19TH, 2025 AS STATED.

HERE WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE CORPORATION MINUTES FOR MAY 19TH, 2025.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

[Business - D]

ITEM 3D IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE FINANCIALS AND PAYABLES FOR THE CORPORATION FOR THE PERIOD ENDING APRIL 30TH, 2025.

AND WE WILL HAVE ANELLE GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THOSE FINANCIALS.

BUT YOU HAVE A HEALTHY PACKET OF INFORMATION ALSO IN YOUR, UH, PDF.

YES.

SO I'LL START, UM, BY SAYING SALES TAX REVENUES RECEIVED IN JUNE, WE'RE UP, UH, 10.05% FROM THE SAME PERIOD THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

SO WE ARE AT 63.1% OF OUR BUDGET FOR 58% OF THE YEAR.

UM, I WILL ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT IN YOUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY FOR THIS ITEM, THE FINANCIALS AMOUNT AND THE PAYABLES AMOUNT IS CORRECT.

HOWEVER, THE ATTACHMENT IN THE PACKET, UM, I DIDN'T REALIZE TILL I WAS PREPARING MY NOTES, UH, A COUPLE HOURS EARLIER, IS THE ATTACHMENT FROM LAST MONTH.

SO, UM, HAYDEN DID GO AHEAD AND PRINT OUT THE CORRECT ATTACHMENT WITH ALL OF THE DETAILS AND THE RIGHT NUMBERS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

UM, AND SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, I KNOW YOU, YOU RECEIVED THAT, UM, WHEN YOU ARRIVED, BUT THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE DETAILS THERE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION, THE AMOUNT, UH, IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY SUMMARY IS CORRECT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT OUR SALES TAX DOES REALLY CONTINUE TO GROW.

UH, BUT I WAS LISTENING TO, UH, SOMEONE FROM THE BAKER INSTITUTE YESTERDAY AND THEY MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE TEXAS POPULATION GROWTH SLOWING, UH, SALES TAXES ACROSS THE STATE, FLATTENING OUT AND PROJECTED STATE REVENUES TO BE FLAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AS WE ANALYZE OUR DATA EACH MONTH, WE NEED TO BE IN TUNE WITH THAT AND BE, UH, READY TO RESPOND.

BUT FORTUNATELY IN FULCHER, THE SALES TAX HAS CONTINUED TO RISE, SO THAT'S A GREAT POSITION FOR US TO HAVE.

YES.

YEAH.

AND, UH, ALONG THE SAME LINES, TOMMY, UM, IT IT'S ONE OF THE MANY DATA POINTS THAT WE CAN, UM, LOOK TO FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, ALL OF OUR NEW DATA SETS FOR DEMOGRAPHICS.

IF YOU WANNA GET MORE FAMILIAR, UM, WITH KIND OF THE EBB AND FLOW OF, UM, THE TAX DOLLARS SALES COLLECTIONS, HOW MUCH IS FROM OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS, HOW MUCH IS PEOPLE TRAVELING THROUGH, WHERE IT'S BEING DRAWN FROM, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY, A RE WEBSITE, UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TAB FOR, UM, ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS LISTENING AS WELL.

MAYBE COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS THE WHY ARE, WHY ARE WE REIMBURSING THE CITY AS PART OF THIS? WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE GO AHEAD.

SURE.

UM, YES, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE CITY OF RE AS A CORPORATION, UM, TO OFFICE AND OPERATE OUT OF THIS BUILDING.

UH, AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, EVERYTHING FROM OUR OFFICE SPACE TO SERVICES SUCH AS OUR, IT, OUR, UM, FINANCE DEPARTMENT WHO PROCESS OUR PAYROLL, OUR US AS EMPLOYEES, UM, OUR SALARIES, ALL OF THAT.

SO, UH, THE SALES TAX COLLECTED, UM, AND SET ASIDE FOR THE CORPORATION IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ACCOUNT.

AND SO, UM, THANKFULLY WE HAVE THE CITY'S FINANCE TEAM TO KIND OF KEEP IT ALL, UH, ORGANIZED AND SO WE REFUND THEM FOR THOSE SERVICES PROVIDED.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT? NO.

ALRIGHT.

IF NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXPENSES? YES.

WITH OUR EXPENDITURES, UH, BEING $20,414

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AND 85 CENTS, AND OUR REIMBURSEMENT BEING HALF OF THAT FOR F FOR OUR RE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD OF $10,012 AND 69 CENTS, UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, FOR THE PAYABLE OF OUR AMOUNT OF THAT EXPENDITURE.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE $10,012 AND 69 CENTS.

AND THEN WE ADD A SECOND.

YES, SECOND.

PERFECT.

MOTIONS ARE MADE AND SECONDED.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? YEAH, JUST, UM, JUST LOOKING AT THE SHEET, UH, I SAID THE EXPENDITURES WERE 20,485.

IT'S 20,025, YES.

38.

SO JUST TO MATCH THAT FOR THE, I THINK YOU SAID THE RIGHT HALF AMOUNT.

I SAID THE RIGHT HALF AMOUNT, BUT JUST YEAH, FOR, FOR MEETING MINUTES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TO GET CORRECTED FOR THE MEETING MINUTES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD DEAL.

NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, THE CITY'S PAID, SO WE WON'T GET EVICTED.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER E IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON SUPPORT OF FISCAL YEAR 26 CIP PROJECTS.

[Business - A (Part 1 of 2)]

BUT I DID, UH, FORGET ONE THING AND ANNOUNCEMENTS AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

WE ALL INTRODUCED OURSELVES, BUT WE DO HAVE A NEWLY APPOINTED CITY COUNCIL LIAISON, UH, PATRICK POWERS, SO HE'S IN THE AUDIENCE AND HE'LL HELP US, UM, REALLY BE A CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR.

UH, SO PATRICK, THANKS FOR AGREEING TO DO THAT.

I KNOW THAT, UH, CITY COUNCIL IS A DEMANDING JOB AND TAKES A LOT OF TIME THESE DAYS.

UH, Y'ALL HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS TO ATTEND TO, AND SO WE APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU'RE SPENDING HERE.

THANK YOU, TOMMY.

AND, UH, MR. POWERS ALSO DID SERVE FOR A FEW MONTHS ON OUR TYPE A EDC, UH, PRIOR TO BEING ELECTED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, SO HE IS FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF OUR PROJECTS AND ALL OF THAT.

SO IS THIS A PROMOTION OR A ?

[Business - E]

ALL RIGHT.

DID YOU CALL THIS ITEM? NO.

YES, NO.

WELCOME.

DID ? YES, I DID.

OKAY, PERFECT.

UM, SO I WOULD JUST, UH, LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL PUBLIC WORKS STAFF, UM, UH, SPECIFICALLY OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, MR. CLIFF BROHARD WILL PRESENT SOME POSSIBLE CIP PROJECTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.

UM, HE HAS PRESENTED THESE PROJECTS TO OUR TYPE A BOARD AT THEIR LAST MEETING.

UM, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND YOU ALL THERE ARE VARIOUS PROJECTS BEING PRESENTED HERE.

IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT ALL OF THEM.

UM, IT, IT MIGHT MEAN YOU SUPPORT PART OF SOME, UM, YOU CAN DO ONE OR TWO, HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPLIT.

THAT IS UP TO YOU.

UM, DURING OUR TYPE A BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD, UH, DID EXPRESS CONSIDERATION TO SUPPORT THE HARRIS STREET SANITARY SEWER PROJECT AT 50%, AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER FUNDING THE REMAINDER OF THAT PROJECT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT DECISION IS UP TO YOU TONIGHT.

UM, AS YOU HEAR CLIFF, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF YOU LET HIM GET THROUGH ALL THE PROJECTS FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION AT THE CONCLUSION OF HIS PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS FOR JOINING US, CLIFF.

THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING US TURN THAT ON.

THANK Y'ALL.

ALL RIGHT.

SEE IF I CAN GET, THAT'S WEIRD.

WE'LL JUST DO IT THIS WAY.

WE DO HAVE THE SLIDES IN OUR PACKET ALSO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING US.

WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT TO Y'ALL, UH, SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT, UM, WE'D LIKE TO BRING Y'ALL FOR CONSIDER CONSIDERATION OF FUNDING.

I KNOW IN THE PAST THAT IT HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO THE BOARDS THAT WE HAVE VERY SHOVEL READY JOBS.

UH, ONE OF THESE PROJECTS IS ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, SO THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A REIMBURSEMENT, AND THE OTHER TWO ARE GETTING VERY NEAR COMPLETION ON THE DESIGN.

SO THESE, ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS ARE VERY CLOSE TO GOING, ARE IN CONSTRUCTION, ARE VERY CLOSE TO GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION.

SO WITH THAT, UH, THE FIRST IS THE HARRIS STREET SANITARY SEWER.

Y'ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH HARRIS STREET.

Y'ALL ARE ACTUALLY FUNDING THE RECONSTRUCTION OF HARRIS STREET, UM, AS WE SPEAK.

UM, AS PART OF THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT,

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AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE SANITARY SEWER UNDERNEATH HARRIS STREET NEEDED TO BE UPSIZED TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

UM, SO IN AN EFFORT TO NOT TEAR UP A ROAD THAT WE JUST CONSTRUCTED, OR IN THE FUTURE, TEAR IT UP TO UPSIZE THESE LINES, WE CHANGE ORDERED THIS INTO OUR CURRENT PROJECT.

AND SO THIS PROJECT INCLUDES THE UPSIZING OF SANITARY GRAVITY LINES ON HARRIS STREET FROM FIFTH STREET TO SECOND STREET TO A 10 INCH LINE, AND FROM SECOND STREET TO FIRST STREET TO A 12 INCH, KEEPING THE EXISTING FLOW LINES AND TYING INTO THE EXISTING MANHOLES AS IDENTIFIED IN THE WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN.

THE BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT, THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT IS TO IMPROVE, UH, SANITARY.

THE IMPROVED SANITARY LINE PROVIDES ECONOMIC VALUE TO THE CITY BY ALLOWING ROOM FOR POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL GROWTH WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN, WITHIN DOWNTOWN SHORE.

WITH ADDITIONAL GROWTH COMES THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SANITARY SEWER CAPACITY.

SO HERE ARE SOME, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET AMOUNTS AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE GOT A CHANGE ORDER FOR THIS, AND WE KNOW IT'S VALUE TO BE $478,000, 21 AND $21.

SO IT IS, THERE'S NO DESIGN START TIME OR BID START TIME.

IT IS ACTUALLY BEING CONSTRUCTED AS THEY TAKE DOWN EACH SECTION OF HARRIS STREET.

THEY ARE, UM, UPSIZING THE SANITARY LINE AS THEY GO NORTH.

SO, AND THIS IS ALSO THE, UM, THE PROJECT THAT EDCA DECIDED TO FUND AT 50%.

OKAY.

THEN WE HAVE THE PECAN KNOLL WELLS AND IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THE CURRENT WELD YIELD AT THE PECAN KNOLL WATER PLANT WILL REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL ONSITE AND TWO OFFSITE WELLS TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SUPPLY.

THE FOLLOWING PROJECT INCLUDES COST OF NEW WELLS, ELECTRICAL AND EQUIPMENT, AND PIPING AND PERS.

ADDITIONALLY, THIS PROJECT INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF A FOURTH BOOSTER PUMP TO THE, TO COMPLETE THE TOTAL FIRM PUMPING CAPACITY OF 5.75 MGD.

GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE BACKSTORY ON THIS.

AS WE GOT INTO THE DIGGING THE WELL AND AND DETERMINING ITS PRODUCTION, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED.

SO WE ARE CURRENTLY PLANNING AN ONSITE SHALLOW WELL ON THAT SITE, AND IT IS VERY NEAR COMPLETION OF DESIGN.

AND THEN SOMETHING THAT HASN'T, IT'S GOTTEN KICKED OFF, BUT IT'S IN THE VERY INFANT STAGES, IS AN OFFSITE, UM, WELL SITE AS WELL TO SUPPLEMENT THE TWO ONSITE WELLS.

SO WHAT YOU WOULD BE, IT'S ALL INCLUDED IN ONE PACKAGE AS FAR AS THE PROJECT IS CONCERNED, BUT IT IS SPLIT OUT INTO TWO PHASES, AND Y'ALL WOULD BE, IF Y'ALL SO CHOSE, Y'ALL WOULD BE FUNDING TO, UH, Y'ALL WOULD BE ASKED TO FUND THE FIRST PHASE, WHICH IS THE ONSITE.

WELL, UH, THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT IS THE ADDITION OF A NEW WELLS INCREASES THE OVERALL OVERALL WATER CAPACITY OF THE CITY SYSTEM SUPPORTING CURRENT AND FUTURE DEMAND.

THIS EXPANDED CAPACITY IS ESSENTIAL FOR ACCOMMODATING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN SHORE.

BY ENSURING RELIABLE WATER AVAILABILITY, THE CITY BECOMES MORE ATTRACTIVE TO PROSPECTIVE BUSINESSES, ULTIMATELY ENCOURAGING ECONOMIC GROWTH AND INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

ONE THING WE LEARNED AS PART OF THE, UM, A BOARD MEETING FROM LEGAL COUNSEL WAS THAT THE ONLY PORTION THAT THE BOARD COULD FUND IS THAT PORTION THAT DIRECTLY RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMERCIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, SALES TAX GENERATING BUSINESSES.

UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH WATER PLANTS IS THAT THE SITE, THIS SITE IS INTERCONNECTED WITH THE DOWNTOWN SYSTEM THAT IS NOW INTERCONNECTED WITH THE CROSS CREEK SYSTEM.

SO IT'S A VERY LARGE INTERCONNECTED SYSTEM, SO NAILING DOWN IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT NAILING DOWN THE EXACT PERCENTAGE OF VALUE WOULD BE VERY CHALLENGING.

SO, NOT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT VERY CHALLENGING.

SO WE DID LEARN THAT LAST TIME.

I WANTED TO PRESENT IT TO Y'ALL JUST IN CASE Y'ALL STILL DECIDED TO, TO FUND A PORTION OF THIS PROJECT OR ALL OF IT JUST TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON, DEPENDS ON Y'ALL, BUT AT LEAST WANTED TO PRESENT IT TO Y'ALL SO Y'ALL WOULD HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

SO IN 2026, AGAIN, THIS IS IN DESIGN AND SURVEYING.

NOW WE'RE ALMOST GETTING CLOSE TO COMPLETING THAT.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THIS PROJECT GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION IN FY 26 FOR A, UM, CONSTRUCTION COST OF $3,690,000 WITH A CONTINGENCY OF $369,000 FOR A TOTAL ESTIMATED PROJECT COST OF $4,059,000.

DESIGN STARTED IN FEBRUARY OF 2025.

WE ANTICIPATE, UH, BID START TO BE OCTOBER OF 2025, AND ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION STARTED JANUARY OF 26, AND THEN OF, UH, ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION OF JANUARY OF 27.

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AND THEN THE LAST PROJECT IS KATIE FULCHER LIFT STATION EXPANSION.

THIS ONE, UNLIKE THE OTHER PROJECT, IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO NAIL DOWN.

IT FALLS UNDER THE SAME RULES.

WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH A PERCENTAGE OF, UM, AREA THAT, UH, DIRECTLY BENEFITS COMMERCIAL OR SALES TAX REVENUE.

UH, BECAUSE IT IS A LIFT STATION, IT IS REGIONAL.

SO WE HAVE A DEFINED AREA THAT THAT COMES TO THIS LIFT STATION.

AND SO IT'S MUCH EASIER TO DETERMINE THE PERCENT, UM, BENEFIT OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT TOWARDS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS PROJECT CONSISTS OF EXPANDING THE CURRENT LIFT STATION CAPACITY FROM 0.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO 1.2 MGD OF SANITARY FLOWS FROM THE DOWNTOWN WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY TO THE CROSS CREEK RANCH WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.

THIS PROJECT INCLUDES REHABILITATING THE EXISTING WET WELL AT KATY SHORE LIFT STATION AND THE ADDITION OF NEW ELECTRICAL PUMPS, PIPING AND AURS.

ADDITIONALLY, A NEW EIGHT INCH FORCE MAIN WILL BE CONSTRUCTED FROM THE KATY SHORE LIFT STATION TO THE CROSS CREEK RANCH WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY TO DIVERT FLOWS.

THIS PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES AN EIGHT INCH SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION BEGINNING AT WILSON STREET AND FIFTH STREET THAT WILL SERVE THE BLACKBURN PARCEL TO THE NORTH ECONOMIC BENEFIT BY EXPANDING THE LIFT STATION CAPACITY AND DIVERTING FLOWS FROM THE DOWNTOWN WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.

THIS PROJECT WILL INCREASE SYSTEM CAPACITY IN BOTH THE DOWNTOWN AND KATY FULCHER SERVICE AREAS.

AS THESE AREAS ARE PRELIMINARY DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

THE ADDED CAPACITY DIRECTLY SUPPORTS FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THIS PROJECT ALSO MARKS THE FIRST PHASE OF A SERIES OF STRATEGIC IMPROVEMENTS INTENDED TO ULTIMATELY DECOMMISSION THE DOWNTOWN WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY PAVING THE WAY FOR A MORE EFFICIENT AND MODERNIZED WASTEWATER SYSTEM THAT PROMOTES LONG-TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH.

THIS IS ALSO UNDER DESIGN CURRENTLY, AND IT IS NEARING COMPLETION.

AND THERE IS AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST OF 3,383,000 WITH A CONTINGENCY OF $338,300 FOR A TOTAL PROJECT, ESTIMATED PROJECT BUDGET OF $3,721,300.

UH, DESIGN STARTED IN OCTOBER OF 24 24, AND AN ESTIMATED BID STARTED JANUARY OF 2026 AND AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION START OF MARCH OF 2026 AND AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION OF JUNE OF 2027.

NOW, THERE IS A CAVEAT ON THIS ONE.

DOWN IN THE CORNER OF YOUR SLIDE.

IT SAYS, PROJECT SCHEDULE IS CONTINGENT ON TXT REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

WE HAVE, WE'RE PUTTING THE, THE, UM, THE FORCE MAIN FROM KATIE FULCHER TO CROSS CREEK IN THE, UM, RIGHT OF WAY OF FM 10 93.

SO THERE WILL BE A REVIEW FROM TXDOT AS WELL AS, UH, STAFF REVIEWS.

ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH OUR REVIEW AND WE'RE READY TO SUBMIT THESE PLANS, IT'LL BE SUBMITTED TO TDOT FOR A RIGHT OF WAY USE PERMIT, AND THAT IS IT.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THOSE.

I'M DEFINITELY EXCITED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH HAPPENING IN INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE CITY AND APPRECIATE YOU, UH, BRINGING US SOME OPTIONS.

HERE IS THE B BOARD, UH, JUST FOR REFERENCE AS WE BEGIN DEVELOPING OUR BUDGETS FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE ABLE TO FUND AND PARTICIPATE IN AND PROJECTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE ONE OF THOSE.

AS CLIFF MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CAVEATS AS WE DO HAVE TO MEET THE STATUTES THAT WE OPERATE UNDER, UH, AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

UM, BUT WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.

YEAH, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS.

UH, FIRST ONE, THE HARRIS STREET SANITARY SERVER.

WHAT WAS THE SIZE OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN? UH, IT IS CURRENTLY AN EIGHT INCH.

IT WAS AN EXISTING LINE THAT WAS THE EXISTING LINE IN CURRENTLY HARRIS STREET.

OKAY.

SO IT'S A COMPLETELY NEW RENT, YOU KNOW? CORRECT.

IT WASN'T REALLY INCLUDED.

CORRECT.

WE WERE NOT GOING TO TOUCH IT AS PART OF THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT AND WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN INDICATED THAT IT NEEDED TO BE UPSIZED.

OKAY.

UM, NEXT ONE, THE PEONS.

WELL, WHAT IS THE ASK K? YOU MENTIONED THE FIRST WELL, BUT THERE'S NO BROKEN DOWN COST OF, FOR COST OF THE FIRST, WELL, THE FIRST WELL IS INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT, UH, PROJECT THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.

SO WHAT AGAIN, WHAT IS THE ASK FOR THE AMOUNT THAT THE FEE BOARD TO COVER? SO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE ANY PORTION OF THE $4,059,000 THAT IS FOR THE, THE SECONDARY ONSITE.

WELL, THAT IS THE COST, BUT THAT'S THE ONE WHERE YOU SAID WE WOULD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REALLY GET INTO MORE DETAILS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT CORRECT WE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO FUND.

CORRECT.

SO THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A LITTLE ADDITIONAL

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STUDY DONE ON A NUMBER THAT WOULD BE OPTIONAL FOR US.

THAT IF THAT IF, AND, AND I KNOW IT'S A BIG ASK, BUT IF THERE WAS LIKE A NOT TO EXCEED AND THEN WE COULD, YOU KNOW, ADJUST TO THE PERCENTAGE AND GET A SOLID NUMBER LATER, OR QUICK QUESTION, WHEN DID, WHEN DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS? OR WHEN DOES THE CITY NEED US TO DECIDE ON THIS? YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GIVE US A DECISION TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE IT FOR YOU TO ADOPT A BUDGET AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.

OKAY, THAT'S GOOD FOR US TO KNOW.

.

ALL RIGHT.

FURTHER QUESTIONS.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH, FOLLOW UP TO THAT.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONTINGENCY.

SO I SEE 2026, YOU'VE GOT 10% CONTINGENCY, AND THEN 2027 IS 20% CONTINGENCY.

YEAH.

SO AS WE, AS WE DESIGN AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, WE, WE TEND TO DRAW DOWN THE CONTINGENCY.

SO IN FY 27, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR OFFSITE WELLS.

SO THOSE ARE STILL IN THE INFANCY STAGES OF CONSTRUCT OF DESIGN.

AND SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THIS ASK.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A FUTURE PROJECT.

OKAY.

LIKE I SAID, I WAS NOT, I'M USED TO SEEING THE CONTINGENCY GOING DOWN, NOT NOT GOING UP THE WAY.

RIGHT.

YEAH, IT'S, IT'S TWO PHASES.

PHASE PHASE ONE OF THIS PROJECT IS THE ONSITE SHALLOW, WELL, PHASE TWO IS THE OFFSITE WELLS THAT ARE, WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING A LAND LOCATION, AND WE ARE, WE IN THE EARLY PHASES OF DESIGN ON THAT.

BUT THIS ASK IS JUST FOR THE ONSITE WELL FOR THIS YEAR.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND THE ABOARD SUPPORTED THE FIRST ONE.

YES, SIR.

WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THE OTHER TWO? I THEY, THEY WERE, WELL, I'LL, I'LL YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT OR THEY GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

THEY, THEY EXPRESSED A PREFERENCE TO FUND, UM, THE FIRST OPTION, THE HARRIS STREET SANITARY STORE AMOUNT, UM, FOR HALF OF THE AMOUNT.

AND THAT'S ALL THEY, THAT'S ALL THEY APPROACHED, THAT'S ALL THEY APPROVED VOTE YES.

THEY, THEY EXPRESSED THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE WHAT THEY WOULD CHOOSE MOVING FORWARD.

THERE.

THERE WASN'T AN OFFICIAL VOTE TAKEN WITH, WITH THE, UM, WITH THE FIRST, WELL, THE FIRST WELL'S COMPLETED, UH, VERY NEARLY.

WE'RE WAITING ON THE MOTOR AND, UM, THE PUMP.

MM-HMM .

THOSE WERE ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERED ON FRIDAY.

BUT THE, THE WHOLE PROJECT ELEV, IT'S A, THE ELEVATED AND THE WATER PLANT TWO OR THE PECAN OIL WATER PLANT, THEY'RE KIND OF WORKING COINCIDE SIDE BY SIDE.

AND, UM, WE ARE ANTICIPATING, I THINK NOW A SEPTEMBER COMPLETION FOR THAT PROJECT.

ANY LESSONS LEARNED? AND HOW'D Y'ALL DO ON THE BUDGET ON THAT FIRST ONE? WE ARE ACTUALLY UNDER BUDGET ON THAT PROJECT.

UM, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT WE, WE ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED SOME, SOME, UM, SOME, UM, VE ITEMS AT THE EARLY STAGES OF THAT.

SO WE, WE WORKED WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO KIND OF FIND SOME COST SAVINGS EARLY ON.

AND WE'VE, IT'S BEEN A, WE, WE REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.

IT'S ON TIME AND, AND GONNA BE SLIGHTLY UNDER BUDGET.

SO, BUT POTENTIALLY AS A CAPACITY ISSUE.

YEAH.

IT WAS ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET UNTIL YOU DIG THE, THE BENEFIT OF, OF, I KNOW THAT, I KNOW THAT , YEAH.

SO WE GOT DOWN AND WE, WE WERE ANTICIPATING, I THINK CLOSE TO 2 2500 GALLONS PER MINUTE, AND THEN WE WERE AT 1500 MM-HMM .

SO THERE'S SOME, SOME CAPACITY THAT WE DIDN'T QUITE REALIZE AS WE HAD HOPED.

UM, SO THE BENEFIT OF THE, THE TEST WELL IS THAT WE'VE GOT A VERY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'LL GET OUT OF THE SHALLOW WELL, BECAUSE THEY TESTED THAT IN THE EARLY PHASES OF THE, THE, UH, WATER PLANT TWO PROJECT.

SO, SO, UH, SO I GUESS I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION AS FAR AS HAS ABOARD DISCUSSED THE, THE PECAN KNOLLS PROJECT YET, AND HAVE THEY AGREED OR HAVE THEY DONE A DO NOT EXCEED CLAUSE? SO WE PRESENTED THIS EXACT SAME THING TO THEM TWO WEEKS AGO.

OKAY.

THEY CHOSE TO FUND THE HARRIS STREET SANITARY SEWER AT 50% AND NOT THIS, NOT THESE, OKAY.

YEAH.

SO WE HAVE SIMILAR OPTIONS, UH, WITH, CURRENTLY THEY HAVE HALF OF THE FUNDING FOR THE HARRIS STREET IN HAND FROM THE ABOARD.

SO WE COULD CHOOSE TO SUPPORT THE OTHER HALF OF THAT AND THEN MAYBE DO SOME ON THE OTHERS.

I MEAN, THESE ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS.

UH, WE DO HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDS.

UM, WE WOULD'VE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR BUDGET

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WOULD HANDLE, BUT IT COULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, 10% OF ONE OR 20% OF ONE, UH, FOR A TOTAL INFRASTRUCTURE SPIN PACKAGE IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES.

UH, JUST TO ADD A COUPLE OF MORE RELEVANT DETAILS ARE A BOARD PRESIDENT BRIAN WHITE DID EXPRESS THAT HE WAS OPEN TO CONSIDERING FUNDING, UM, THE HARRIS STREET SANITARY STORE COMPLETELY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

IF YOU ALL FELT LIKE YOU WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO ANOTHER ONE OF THESE PROJECTS.

UM, SO THEY DIRECTED US TO INCLUDE THE 50%, BUT WHEN THEY ADOPT THEIR BUDGET NEXT MONTH, THEY CAN AMEND THAT LINE TO INCLUDE A HUNDRED PERCENT BASED ON YOUR RESPONSE TONIGHT.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR, YOUR, YOUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OVER $3 MILLION TOTAL.

SO THAT'S ALL YOU WOULD HAVE TO SPEND ON ANYTHING YOU CHOOSE TO, UM, FUND FOR THESE PROJECTS.

AND ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE ASKED THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR, OUTSIDE OF OBVIOUSLY OUR COLLECTIONS THAT WOULD BE COMING IN.

SO IF, BUT DOES THAT, OH, GO AHEAD.

IF WE, UH, TOOK THEM UP ON, ON THAT, ON THE A HUNDRED PERCENT AND THEN WE COULD TAKE THE 2 50, 2 40, WHATEVER IT IS, AND MOVE THAT TOWARDS THE PECAN KNOLLS OR THE KATY FULL, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE KATIE CHER IS THE MORE, IS THE SAFER ONE POINT.

YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S AN OPTION.

YOU COULD TAKE THIS, YEAH.

MM-HMM .

WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO THE THAT AMOUNT THOUGH.

OH, THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH.

SO IF THAT'S WHAT MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WAS, IS WHAT CAPACITY I WAS JUST PUTTING, I WAS JUST DOING THE MATH FOR THE 50%.

SO IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER THE KATY AL LIFT STATION, THAT, THAT NUMBER IS A PORTION OF THE 3 MILLION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER, WHICH IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE AND ABOARD, UM, HESITATED ON TAKING ANY ACTION ON THE OTHER PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE OPERATING WITHIN WHAT THE STATUE ALLOWED THEM.

AND SO THEY WANTED TO KNOW THE BREAKDOWN OF THE COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL SERVICE, UM, AT THE ADVISE OF OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, THE EVENING THEY HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECTS.

JUST, UH, SINCE THAT ABOARD MEETING, UH, TOOK PLACE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UH, HAS THERE BEEN ANY EFFORT TO TRY AND GET WHAT THAT BREAKDOWN NUMBER LOOKS LIKE? WE HAVE REQUESTED IT FROM OUR, OUR ENGINEERS, THE WATER WASTE WATER PLANNERS.

WE'VE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE YET, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT.

WELL, BUT I HEARD WE HAVE TO HAVE A DECISION TODAY, SO WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT NUMBER, CAN WE? WELL, THAT'S KINDA WHAT THE, THE SUGGESTION OF THE DO NOT EXCEED.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO DO, IF IT'S WINDS UP BEING 25% AND OF THE CAPACITY WOULD GO TO COMMERCIAL AND THAT WAS UNDER THE VALUE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT Y'ALL WERE WILLING TO, UH, OFFER, THEN WE COULD REDUCE THAT COST DOWN OR NOT SPEND UP TO THAT NUMBER.

SO IF THERE IS A VALUE NOT TO EXCEED AND THEN WE LATER COME BACK WITH CHANGE ORDERS, THE CITY WOULD PICK THAT UP.

UM, I YOU WOULD COVER THE REST OF THE TEST? YEAH, WE WOULD EITHER, YES.

YES.

I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO, UNLESS WE CAME BACK TO THE BOARD AND , .

THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AFRAID OF.

AND A BUDGET, A BUDGET AMENDMENT, I WOULDN'T IMAGINE THAT Y'ALL WOULD WELL, I MEAN, ENTERTAIN THAT IF WE ARE LOOKING TO SPONSOR ANOTHER PROJECT, UM, REPORTING DEFINITELY NEEDS TO IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'VE, WE SPONSORED THE HARRIS STREET, UH, PROJECT SO FAR THE REPORTING HAS BEEN TERRIBLE AS FAR AS STATUSES.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE MY ASK IF, IF WE ARE TO SUPPORT OR OR SPONSOR SOMETHING THAT WE DO GET THE, UH, AN IMPROVED REPORTING.

OKAY.

SO WE, WE DID WORK WITH BRIAN WHITE SEVERAL WEEKS BACK TO KIND OF GET SOME IDEAS FROM THE, A BOARD OF WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, AND WE PUT A NEW REPORT TOGETHER.

I BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO YEAH, IT'S INCLUDED HERE IN THE PACKET AS PART OF THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

AND WHEN, UM, WE GET TO THAT ITEM, WE CAN DISCUSS THE CONTENT AND IF WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS OR REQUEST ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE TWEAKS TO THAT REPORT.

BUT I MEAN, MY, MY VIEW, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I CERTAINLY LIKE BRIAN'S UH, IDEA THERE OF POTENTIALLY A BOARD FUNDING, UH, THE F FIRST PROJECT.

AND I'M CERTAINLY INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING THE, THE KATY F LIFT STATION, THE THIRD OPTION.

IT'S JUST AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE OF

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THAT, UH, MAXIMUM AMOUNT WE WERE ABLE TO DO.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING TOO, LEE, IS WITH BRIAN'S.

UM, IF, IF BRIAN AND THE A BOARD ARE KIND OF WILLING TO SUPPORT A HUNDRED PERCENT, I GUESS, OF THE HARRIS STREET, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF TO THE, UM, KATIE FULCHER LIFT STATION, UM, FOR US TO PRESENT OR PARTICIPATE IN OF THE, OF THE THREE OPTIONS.

DOES CITY HAVE PREFERENCE ON THE THREE OPTIONS OR, I MEAN, ARE YOU GONNA SAY ALL THREE BUT IN A PRIORITY? NO, I MEAN, GIVEN THAT IF, IF A BOARD DOES AGREE TO, TO FUND HARRIS STREET FULLY, I THINK OUR OPTION, OUR, OUR, OUR CHOICE WOULD BE KATIE FULCHER.

UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I RESPECT A BOARD'S DECISION TOO, AND I THINK IT'S, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE AND FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT.

I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT IF A BOARD'S GONNA BEAT FOOTING 4 78, I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO SUPPORT 4 78 IN WHATEVER PROJECT.

I'D LIKE TO MATCH 'EM IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT 478,000 IN, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT 478,000 IN TO THE PROJECT THAT THE CITY'S ENCOURAGING.

I JUST, THAT'S HOW I THINK ABOUT THINGS.

YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANNA BE A DOLLAR MORE 2038 AND A PENNY? NO.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IF, UH, LATER ON WE GET A BREAKDOWN THAT SHOWS ONLY A QUARTER OF THE PROJECT QUALIFIES FOR COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT IF WE END UP, UH, COMMITTING MORE THAN THAN THAT PORTION? UM, SO IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON HOW FAR YOU ARE ALONG IN THE PROCESS AND WHERE YOU ARE.

SO, UM, THIS IS FOR YOUR BUDGET AMOUNT AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

AND SO IF YOU ARE, AND DEPENDING ON HOW THE REIMBURSEMENT IS WORKING, SO LET'S SAY YOU'VE GOTTEN UP TO 10% AND YOU FIND OUT IT'S 15, UM, ONCE YOU HIT 15, IT'LL CUT OFF.

AND SO YOU'LL JUST HAVE THAT LEFT AMOUNT, UM, BUDGET.

THE ISSUE WOULD BE LARGER IF IT CAME TO THE FACT THAT YOU PAID A WHOLE BUNCH AND YOU WOULD NOW NEED TO RECOUP THAT IN SOME CAPACITY.

UM, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND AS YOU'RE DOING THAT, IS TRYING TO AVOID THAT SITUATION.

UM, AND HOPEFULLY NUMBERS ARE HERE IF YOU'RE GONNA DO AN UP TO NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS THAT CIRCUMSTANCE THAT YOU COULD RUN INTO PROBABLY A SMALL LIKELIHOOD.

UM, BUT THAT IT COULD BE THAT YOU'VE EXCEEDED OVER AND ABOVE AND YOU'VE ALREADY PAID OUT OVER AND ABOVE.

SO FOR THE KATY FULL LIFT STATION, IF A BOARD WAS TO CONSIDER, UM, A PORTION OF THIS, UM, AM I RIGHT IN SAYING THAT ABOARD AND B BOARD WOULD'VE WOULD BE 50 50 IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY? OR WOULD THIS NOT, UM, NOT QUALIFY FOR ABOARD OPTION THREE? UM, SO ABOARD HAS A LITTLE LESS FLEXIBILITY THAN Y'ALL DO, UM, BUT Y'ALL ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES.

MM-HMM .

UM, SO YOUR CONCERN IS, UM, FROM YOUR BOARD, WHAT PERCENTAGE, UH, IS COMMERCIAL THAT YOU FUNDING AND UM, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD, WHAT I, WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT IS YEAH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY THE 50 50 RATIO MM-HMM .

WOULD SUPPORT THE MATCHING OF THE FIGURES.

IF WE WERE POTENTIALLY ABLE TO SUPPORT MORE OF THAT BECAUSE OF ABOARD VERSUS B BOAT QUALIFICATION, I WOULD ACTUALLY SUPPORT MORE THAN THE 4 78, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH.

WE JUST NEED TO GET, HAVE A DISCUSSION IF WE'RE GENERALLY INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT, WHAT THAT LEVEL MIGHT BE.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

UH, AND THAT'S JUST THE BOARD'S DECISION.

WELL, AND I'M, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE TABLE TONIGHT, .

SO THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE AND RATIONAL AND, AND, UM, COHESIVE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT.

UM, IF WE'VE GOTTA THROW A NUMBER OUT THERE, I THINK THAT ONE MAKES SENSE.

AND THEN HOW WE WORD IT AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

I, I I TREAT THIS.

YOU DO, BUT I DON'T, UH, IN, IN PROJECT MANAGEMENT ROLES THAT I'VE DONE, I TREAT THIS AS, UM, AS BEING A, UM, A NON-OP PARTNER IN, IN THE PROJECT, WE'RE GONNA DESIGNATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT FORWARD AND WE'RE GONNA GET PROJECT REPORTS AND WE WILL BE THE TAIL WAGGING THE DOG.

WE WILL BE 20% OR 30% OR 10% OF THE PROJECT.

AND WE WON'T, WE WON'T, WE WON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OF THE, IT'S, IT'S A DONATION AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IS HOW I SEE THIS.

I LIKE THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT.

I LIKE, WE, WE FUNDED IT IN BASICALLY IN TOTALITY, WE MANAGE IT.

WE,

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WE, WE, WE SHOULD BE GETTING GREAT UPDATES FROM IT BECAUSE THIS IS FUNDS THAT ARE COMING FROM OUR BOARD.

UM, SO I I I, I GOTTA ADMIT, I DON'T LIKE BEING THE TAIL WAGGING THE DOG.

I WOULD LIKE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF WE DON'T FUND THE CITY COUNCIL, WE'LL FUND IT IN SOME FORM OR WE'LL NOT FUND IT IN SOME FORM.

UM, BUT BEING A, I, I KNOW GENERALLY OUR, OUR JOB IS TO USE MONEY WISELY, BUT IT'S ALSO TO MANAGE AND AUDIT AND, AND, AND LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE SPENDING THAT MONEY WISELY WITH COST OVERRUNS.

I'D RATHER DO IT ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS THAT WE CAN, UM, MORE FULLY EVALUATE.

UH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED 2% OF EVERY PROJECT THAT THE CITY DOES.

WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE WAY OF MANAGING.

UM, BUT UH, THAT'S, I JUST, I'M JUST KIND OF PUTTING FORTH A PHILOSOPHY AND I, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY HAD LIKED ABOUT THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FUND IT AND MAKE IT AN EDC PROJECT.

UM, SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY A, A VALID POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT I'VE TALKED WITH SOME FOLKS RECENTLY WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD WANTS TO BE SUPPORTIVE AND HELP FUND, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SPEAK .

I WASN'T GONNA SAY THAT.

NO.

AND MAYBE I THINK THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, IS SUPPORTIVE OF THESE VERY MUCH LARGER PROJECTS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT OWNERSHIP OF CERTAIN PROJECTS AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE A A GOOD BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, BEING THE PIGGY BANK IN ONE SENSE, BUT THEN ALSO BEING ABLE TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY TOOK ON THAT PROJECT AND PUSHED IT THROUGH.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE A BALANCE OF THOSE AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN TAKE ON THE FULL PROJECT.

AND I THINK WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE WELCOME TO RE SIGN THAT'S GONNA GET DONE HERE BEFORE LONG.

THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT'LL BE ALL IN OUR PURVIEW.

WE WILL HAVE ALL THE COST OVERRUNS AND ANYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

UH, A COUPLE OF THESE PROJECTS TO ME ARE MORE SUBSTANTIAL.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A, AN ISSUE BEING A PARTNER IN THAT, SO TO SPEAK, BUT I DEFINITELY RESPECT YOUR POINT, AND I AGREE WITH IT THAT I WANT THINGS WE CAN PUT OUR STAMP ON AS WELL.

AND, AND, AND WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE SOME VERY, WHENEVER Y'ALL WERE PROPOSING HARRIS TO US, WE, WE TALKED VERY ABOUT VERY DETAILED ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AND Y'ALL CAME BACK WITH OPTIONS AND IT, UM, FOR A $17 MILLION PROJECT THAT WE'RE GIVING $200,000 TO, WE WON'T, WE, WE WILL HAVE VERY LITTLE OPTIONALITY LET US SAY THAT WE'LL BE, UM, DECIDING UPON.

I FEEL LIKE, SO IN GENERAL, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LIFT STATION, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET DOWN IN THE WEEDS WITH THAT, PROBABLY, PROBABLY NOT WITH HARRIS STREET, THAT WAS MORE OF A SIGNATURE PROJECT THAT HAS A LOT OF AESTHETICS, UH, PLACE MAKING PROJECT AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE PROBABLY HAD WAY MORE DISCUSSION THAN TIFFANY WANTED.

BUT, UH, ANYWAY, , UH, SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THE DIFFERENCE, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENCE IN TYPE OF PROJECT TOO.

I AGREE.

BUT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE REASON WHY I'M JUMPING ON THE SUPPORT OF THE, THE KATIE FORCE SOLICITATION TO, TO ME THE THREE OPTIONS, IT REALLY DOES PUSH FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FTCS SUPPORT OF, YOU KNOW, GROWTH DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, AND THE RESULTS OF THAT AS, AS, AS STATED IN THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT AND TAKING YOUR, YOUR, YOUR POINTS INTO CONSIDERATION.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD GO AS HIGH AS OFFERING 51% OF THE, OF THAT PROPOSED BUDGET AND STILL HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDS, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT.

SO ON THAT, YEAH, I WOULD, I MEAN THE, THAT AND THAT NUMBER PROBABLY SEEMS A LITTLE HIGH TO ME, BUT, UH, JUST FOR KEEPING OUR, UH, POWDER DRY FOR, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN THE CITY.

WE HAVE SOME PROPERTY THAT WE OWN, UH, WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO, PROJECTS ARE GONNA COME THAT WAY AND HOW WE MAY NEED TO PARTICIPATE THERE.

SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT ALL THE POTENTIAL THINGS THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE, UH, CASH READY FOR.

HOW CLOSE DOES THIS GET US TO THE, UM, DIVERS OFF THE DOWNTOWN? UM, YOU WANT THE LONG OR THE SHORT ANSWER? A PERCENTAGE, MAYBE .

SO WE'RE, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN AND GOING TO, OR YES, WE, WE'VE RECEIVED BIDS BUT ARE FOR THE LEASE PORTION, BUT WE'RE ABOUT TO GO TO BID ON THE CIVIL PORTION

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OF, UM, THE EXPANSION TO THE DOWNTOWN WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.

SO WE ARE STILL EXPANDING.

WE'RE GOING FROM SEVEN TO 1.1 BECAUSE IN THE SHORT TERM IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE STILL HAVE, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT CAPACITY.

UH, THIS PROJECT IS A PORTION OF THAT.

WE'RE, WE'RE RELIEVING SOME OF THAT FLOW TO THE DOWNTOWN SO WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPAND IT EVEN, EVEN MORE.

MM-HMM .

UM, THE DIVERSION LIFT STATION IS VERY NEAR COMPLETION OF DESIGN AS WELL.

UH, WE JUST SECURED A, A LOCATION FOR IT.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE IN THE MEDIAN NEAR THE DOWNTOWN PLANT.

THE TOLL ROAD HAS TOLD US THAT THAT'S A NO-GO, SO WE HAD TO PUNT A LITTLE BIT AND FIND A NEW LOCATION.

SO THAT'S BEEN DONE.

UM, SO IT'S FULL STEAM AHEAD ON DESIGN AS WELL.

UM, THAT HAS TO BE IN PLACE.

UH, THE, WE ARE GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION OF THE CROSS CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION, AN ADDITIONAL MILLION GALLONS THERE, THAT'S GOTTA BE IN PLACE.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME, SOME WORK WE'RE DOING WITH TAMRON WEST TO BUILD A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT UP THERE THAT WILL DIVERT SOME OF THE NORTHERN FLOWS THAT DIRECTION.

THAT'S, THAT'S GOT TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE THAT DOWNTOWN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT CAN ACTUALLY BE DECOMMISSIONED.

SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING AT A MINIMUM OF FIVE YEARS.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO YOU SAID THAT AT THE A MEETING, UM, THAT SUGGESTION CAME UP.

WHAT WAS THE, YOU, YOU JUST MENTIONED, BRIAN IS ONE PERSON.

HAVING SAID THAT, WHAT WAS THE, LIKE IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF AGREEMENT TOWARDS THAT? YES, THE REACTION WAS GENERALLY POSITIVE.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THOSE WERE THE WORDS I'M LOOKING FOR.

.

YES MA'AM.

SORRY, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GENERALLY AS A BOARD LEANING TOWARDS THE KATY FULL LIFT STATION EXPANSION.

AND SO I THINK IF WE CAN MAYBE WORK TOWARDS, UH, SOMETHING THE BOARD WOULD BE COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING, IN MY MIND, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE, I'M NOT RUN ANY FINANCIAL NUMBERS, BUT, AND NOW CORRECT ME IF I'M MAYBE OFF BASE, BUT I WAS THINKING MAYBE BETWEEN 4 78 TO $600,000 MAYBE, WOULD THAT FIT OUR FINANCIAL CONDITION? YES, SIR.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

OR IF SOMEONE FEELS CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO PUT A MOTION OUT AND WE WILL DEBATE IT AND AMEND IT AND GO FROM THERE NOT TO EXCEED 600.

I MEAN, DO YOU WANNA SAY IT LIKE THAT? THAT'S WHAT CLIFF'S ADVICE WAS, IS TO WORD IT AS A, SINCE WE DO HAVE TO PUT A NUMBER OUT THERE TO, TO WORD IT LIKE DO NOT, NOT TO EXCEED.

YEAH, I MAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT A BOARD DOES PICK UP THE COSTS FOR HARRIS STREET SANITARY STEWARD TO THE T OF 408 70 8,000, UH, 21 THAT BE BOUGHT, UH, DONATE 600,000 NOT TO EXCEED, TO SUPPORT THE KATY FULL LIFT STATION EXPANSION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.

MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED TO, UH, FOR THE B BOARD TO FUND UP TO $600,000 FOR THE KATY FULL LIFT STATION EXPANSION FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.

UH, SUBJECT TO ENSURING THAT IT MEETS OUR MISSION AND OUR GOALS.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.

SO CLIFF, THANKS FOR ALL THE DISCUSSION.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR Y'ALL SUPPORT BOARD.

THE BOARD HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AS YOU CAN TELL, SO YEAH, NO, IT'S, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT.

IT'S, IT'S GREAT.

NO, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT Y'ALL ARE INVOLVED AND, AND, AND WILLING TO SUPPORT AND, UM, WE DO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO.

THANK Y'ALL.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

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ITEM THREE F IS DISCUSSION ON THE THREE YEAR ADDENDUM TO THE SHORE FAST TRACK CONTRACT.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE DO NEED YOU TO EXPRESS YOUR, YOUR CHOICE GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN SET THE RIGHT, UH, BUDGET AMOUNT, UM, FOR THAT OPTION, UH, FOR NEXT MONTH'S BUDGET.

SO, UH, THERE IS A EXTENSIVE RECAP IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, AS A REMINDER, THE CANON HAS PROVIDED EVC STAFF WITH THREE OPTIONS FOR A YEAR, THREE ADDENDUM TO THE FULL SURE FAST TRACK CONTRACT.

UM, THE AMOUNTS FOR THAT OPTION, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA READ THEM ALL UNLESS YOU JUST WOULD LIKE A RECAP OF A A

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CERTAIN OPTION, UM, ARE LISTED IN YOUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.

UM, THIS WAS ALSO PRESENTED AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 17TH.

UM, AND DURING THAT COUNCIL MEETING MEMBERS, UM, STATED THEIR PREFERENCE AS FOLLOWS, WHICH THIS IS ALSO IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MILLER AND JOHNSON, UM, WOULD LIKE OPTION ONE OR THREE, UH, MR. POWERS OPTION ONE, UH, MS. BARON, OPTION THREE OR FOUR, MR. RUSSELL KAR AND CANNOT BE OPTION FOUR.

UM, THOSE CHOICES FOR OPTION FOUR WOULD BE, UH, NO CONTINUATION OF THE CONTRACT AND NO HIRING OF ANY ADDITIONAL CEDC STAFF.

UM, THOSE WERE MOSTLY FUELED BY JUST CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THE METRICS.

UM, THEY WANTED TO SEE MORE, UH, CONCRETE ROI NUMBERS TO MAKE THEM FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THAT INVESTMENT.

UM, SO COUNSEL WAS PRETTY SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

UM, SO IF, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR US OR, UM, ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE CLARIFIED, NOW'S THE TIME.

YEAH, I GUESS I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE, I WASN'T ABLE TO BE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT DAY, BUT DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME BETTER METRICS THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, LET THE CITY COUNCIL SEE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND ENSURE THAT IF THE MONEY'S BEING WELL SPENT OR NOT, OR DO YOU THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE? I KNOW THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY WERE GONNA PROVIDE US, BUT IT WAS MORE, YOU KNOW, HOLD THIS MANY MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, CONDUCT THIS, UM, OUTREACH PROGRAM.

BUT, SO I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH AND YOU THINK THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT WORKED OUT? UH, DEFINITELY.

YES.

UM, THE, THE STAFF AT THE CANNON HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH AND THEY'RE VERY OPEN.

UM, WE, WE CAN DISCUSS THE METRICS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT YEAR THREE CONTRACT AND NEGOTIATE THOSE WITH THEM, UM, IN A WAY THAT MADE OUR COUNCIL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT'S BEING REPORTED.

AND, UM, IT'S AGAIN, YOUR OPPORTUNITY AS WELL TO KIND OF CHANGE, UH, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT REPORT.

UM, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THE, THE REPORT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING IS JUST WHAT WAS AGREED TO IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.

YEAH.

SO I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DID DISCUSS THIS, SO WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THEIR VIEWPOINTS AND THEIR IDEAS.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO OUR BEST TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT PART OF OUR JOB ALSO IS TO PUT FORTH IDEAS THAT WE THINK ARE, ARE BENEFICIAL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE ENTREPRENEURIAL, UM, QUEST REALLY WASN'T CONDUCTED BY ANY ORGANIZATIONS.

I SEE.

THE CITY OF SUGARLAND IS, YOU KNOW, WORK, DOING SOME WORK IN THAT AREA.

I JUST DISCOVERED THAT LAST WEEK.

SO I HOPE TO MAYBE GAIN SOME MORE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE MEASURING.

UH, THEY'RE SPENDING A LOT MORE THAN WE ARE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY GETTING FOR THAT? I HAVE NO CLUE RIGHT NOW.

MM-HMM .

UH, SO I HOPE TO GAIN MORE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT TOO BECAUSE, AND I DO HAVE THAT, UM, WE, WE REACHED OUT THE SECOND, WE SAW THEIR PRESS RELEASE, UH, A FEW MONTHS AGO AND DID GET A COPY OF THE METRICS THEY'RE MEASURING AND THEY WERE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITH THE CANON.

UM, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION THAT I GATHERED FROM THEIR STAFF AS WELL.

OKAY.

YEAH, I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, WITH THIS, UH, PROJECT SINCE THE ONSET AND I GUESS BEING VERY, VERY CLOSE TO IT, I, I, I SEE A LOT OF BENEFIT AND I'VE SEEN IT GROW.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS LISTENING IN TO THE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WHERE I'VE SEEN THE, THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS.

UM, I GUESS THERE'S BEEN AN ASSUMPTION FROM ME THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, WHEN YOU ARE SO CLOSE TO THE, TO THE RESULTS, YOU TAKE IT FOR GRANTED A LITTLE BIT.

YOU'VE SEEN THE GROWTH OF IT.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PRODUCE BETTER METRICS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WELL TAKEN ON BOARD.

I THINK BRINGING IN, IN-HOUSE, UM, PERSONALLY ME, I BELIEVE, I DON'T THINK THE FOUR OPTIONS HAVE BEEN TABLED PROPERLY.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS LISTENING TO THE COUNCIL MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT OPTION THREE, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER LISTENING TO OPTION THREE.

UM, OPTION THREE, IT'S ONLY REALLY PRESENTED AS A, AS AN IMMEDIATE ONE YEAR STOPGAP.

WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT BUILDING UP THE FIRST TWO YEARS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE THAT TRANSITION'S GONNA TAKE TIME IF WE

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DO HIRE STAFF TO BRING THAT IN-HOUSE.

YOU DON'T SEE THE REWARDS JUST BY SIMPLY LOOKING AT THE ONE YEAR.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE, I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT WE EITHER FULLY SUPPORTED OR WE DON'T SUPPORT IT AT ALL.

AND I THINK THAT WAS SAID BY THE ACTUAL CEO OF THE, OF THE, UH, CANON.

YOU KNOW, EITHER IF WE, EITHER AS A CITY, WE EITHER FULLY SUPPORT IT OR WE DON'T DO IT AT ALL.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE TRANSITION TO HAVING A STAFF MEMBER, THIS IS, UH, SOME LEVEL OF COMMITMENT TO A 2, 3, 4 YEAR PERIOD, YOU KNOW, FOR AS LONG AS THAT ACTUAL PROJECT WORKS, THE FACT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO THEN BRING IT IN HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THE LONGER WE KEEP IT IN HOUSE, THE CHEAPER IT'S GONNA GET.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT OPTION THREE, YES, OKAY.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A A 12 MONTH PERIOD.

IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD WHERE IT WOULD BE 2 43, 6 32 PLUS TWO YEARS AT 83,432, IT ACTUALLY BECOMES THE CHEAPEST OPTION.

RIGHT? AND, AND THAT PICTURE WASN'T PAINTED WHEN WE GAVE IT THE DEMONSTRATION TO, TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO I, I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA REALLY THINK OUTSIDE OF JUST THIS, THESE FOUR NUMBERS, YOU GOTTA, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE FULLY SUPPORTING IT, IT NEEDS TO BE THE NUMBER THAT THE TALLY OF NUMBERS NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, VIEW IT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, NOT JUST THAT ONE YEAR SNAPSHOT.

BECAUSE IF YOU JUST SIMPLY LOOK AT IT, THE 2 43, WELL, IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE ON THE PAPER THERE, RIGHT? BUT TO REAP THE REWARDS OF IT, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO THERE IS BRING IT IN HOUSE OVER THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, IT BECOMES THE CHEAPEST OPTION, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS ON IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND IF IT WAS UP TO ME, I WOULD GO FOR OPTION THREE.

AND, UH, LEE, IF I CAN ADD SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT TO THAT TOO, BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH YOU, BUT, UM, BEING A RELATIVE THREE YEARS IN, UH, NEWCOMER TO FULL SURE, I HAVE BEEN BOTH AS A STAFF PERSON AND AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN A EXTREMELY FAST GROWTH TOWN, UM, IN, IN PAST YEARS.

AND I HAVE SEEN IT LOSE ITS CHARACTER AND ITS PERSONALITY VERY QUICKLY.

UM, BEFORE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST SO ADMIRED WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE WAS LEARNING THAT THIS CITY THAT WAS GROWING SO RAPIDLY WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO DEVELOPING ITS SMALL BUSINESS AND MAINTAINING ITS CHARACTER.

AND I THINK THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN NECESSARILY MEASURE, UM, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS, UM, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE AND I'VE SEEN, UM, WHAT CAN HAPPEN VERY QUICKLY IN A VERY FAST GROWTH TOWN.

AND I THINK IT'S ADMIRABLE THAT, UM, THAT RE TOOK THIS, UM, TOOK THIS STEP.

I WASN'T AROUND LIKE LEE WHEN IT FIRST HAPPENED, BUT IT'S STILL A GR A GREAT IDEA AND WORTH CONTINUING.

BUT I AGREE ON OPTION THREE AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S, UM, A PLACE WHERE, UM, A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES CAN ALL BE MET.

UM, BEING ONE OF THE NEW MEMBERS HERE.

I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, FULL SHARE FAST TRACK.

SURE.

YEAH.

MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, WHAT IS THE GOAL OF FULL SHARE FAST TRACK? THE MAIN GOAL, THE MAIN GOAL OF FULL SHARE FAST TRACK IS TO ESTABLISH THE CITY OF FULL SHARE AS AN ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND, UM, BUSINESS HUB TO ESTABLISH A, A REAL INCUBATOR TO BRING INVESTORS, UM, TO THE TABLE AND PAIR THEM WITH, UM, IDEATION AND CREATION TYPE OF INDIVIDUALS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, THE IDEA BEING THAT WE ARE FINDING THOSE PEOPLE, IDENTIFYING THEM WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, AND PROVIDING THE RESOURCES SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THAT BUSINESS HERE.

WHAT WE FIND IS THAT A LOT OF OUR BIGGER CITIES THAT ARE OUR COMPETITION FOR BIG BUSINESS ARE MAKING AN EFFORT, UM, IN THIS ARENA, IF YOU WILL.

UM, AND SO IF WE DON'T PROVIDE THE RESOURCES, WE WILL LIKELY LOSE THOSE ENTREPRENEURS, THOSE INVESTORS, TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

AND SO IT'S REALLY JUST PROVIDING THAT RESOURCE, UM, AND HAVING ALL THAT AVAILABLE LOCALLY SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE.

UM, MS. KAY COLLICK ON OUR ABOARD CALLS IT MAKING FULL SURE STICKY , SO MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING HERE ARE STAYING HERE.

AND SO IS THERE MONEY OKAY.

IN A NUTSHELL, .

OKAY.

SO DO YOU KNOW WHERE, MAYBE COULD YOU JUST ALSO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE RETAIL STRATEGIES THAT'S THEY'RE TRACKED WITH PURSUING LIKE AN IC, INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL SHOPPING CENTER CONFERENCE, UH, PROBABLY MORE TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES.

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SO WE'RE, WE'RE ON THAT TRACK AS WELL.

YES.

YEAH, THEY'RE, UM, I FEEL LIKE AS AN EDC, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE FUNDING CIP PROJECTS.

WE'RE TRYING TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE IN THAT ASPECT OF MAKING SURE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH OURSELVES AS A HUB TO HELP DEVELOP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND SUPPORT OUR ENTREPRENEURS.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PURSUING THE, THE SALES TAX GROWTH BY DOING RETAIL RECRUITMENT OF SPECIFIC BUSINESSES, WHICH, UM, WE, WE PURSUE WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANT AND WHAT'S APPROPRIATE.

AND OF COURSE, SOME OF THAT COMES WITH, UM, LIMITATIONS BASED ON OUR DEMOGRAPHICS, WHICH IS WHAT RETAILS REALLY LOOK FOR AND HOW THEY PICK PLACES.

BUT, UM, IT'S REALLY JUST AN ART MATCHING, UM, THOSE RETAILERS, RESTAURANTS AND SERVICE-BASED BUSINESSES WITH THE PROPER LOCATIONS AND, UM, HAVING THOSE CONNECTIONS WITH DEVELOPERS AND BROKERS.

AND SO WE DO WORK WITH RETAIL STRATEGIES ON THAT FRONT TO DO THAT AS WELL.

AND I, AND WE WILL HAVE AN ORIENTATION FOR OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

DON'T THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO LEARN IT ALL.

UM, JUST ON, IN THESE MEETINGS WHERE WE'LL SHARE ALL OF THOSE, UM, JUST DIFFERENT CONTRACTS AND DIFFERENT EFFORTS, DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND KIND OF THE HISTORY, UM, ALL OF THESE, UH, DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVING THOSE SEPARATE GOALS, UM, ARE REALLY ALL ROOTED IN OUR EDC STRATEGIC PLAN.

OKAY.

DOES THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT HELPFUL, TOMMY? OH, THAT WAS GOOD.

I KNOW.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ORIENTATION, BUT WE'RE HAVING THIS, THIS DISCUSSION.

AND HOW DOES IT ALL FIT TOGETHER, JUST TO HELP THE CONTEXT? YES, SIR.

TH THIS RE FASTTRACK PROGRAM, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, IS, IS STILL IN ITS INFANCY.

INFANCY.

IT'S A NEW PROGRAM.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT.

IT IS, IT IS GROWING IN SIZE AND SCOPE AND, UM, THERE, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO THE CITY OF SHORE.

MORE PIPES, MORE WATER, MORE INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S HARDER TO PROVIDE MORE ENTREPRENEURIALSHIP.

IT'S HARD, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN DO IT.

IF WE GIVE IT TIME AND EFFORT AND LET IT GROW, WE COULD TAKE THIS IN-HOUSE AND WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DO IT.

RIGHT.

THE CANON HAS, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE CONTRACTED THE CANNON TO DO THIS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DO THIS.

THEY'VE DONE IT IN OTHER CITIES, THEY'VE DONE IT IN HOUSTON DOWNTOWN.

IF YOU GO AND, AND I MEAN, I'VE VISITED IT, IT IS A PLACE WHERE NEW IDEAS HAPPEN EVERY DAY.

AND WE'RE, IT WILL TAKE A LONG TIME TO GROW THAT HERE IN THE CITY OF SHORE, BUT IF WE DON'T, WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF HOUSES.

PLENTY OF PIPES, PLENTY OF ROADS, AND LESS ENTREPRENEURS.

SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DDC HAS DONE.

WE'RE SHORE, WE'RE THE OLD 300.

OKAY.

WE WERE ENTREPRENEURS FROM OUR STARTING POINT.

SO I, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT SHORE FAST TRACK IS, IS A WAY TO FOSTER THAT.

I WANNA DO IT IN MY KIDS.

I WANNA DO IT IN MY COMMUNITY.

I WANNA DO IT IN MYSELF.

UM, AND FULL STREET FLASH TRACK WILL GET US THERE.

WE JUST HAVE TO GIVE IT MORE TIME.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY 22ND THING ON IT.

BUT IT'S ABOUT ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND GIVING NEW ENTREPRENEURS THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO LEARN TO BE ENTREPRENEURS AND TO GROW THEIR BUSINESSES FROM A VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL INFANCY LEVEL.

THIS IS NOT GETTING A NEW BURGER SHOP TO COME TO CITY OF SHORE.

WE HAVE OTHER WAYS OF DOING THAT.

THIS IS ABOUT GETTING THAT STARTUP IT COMPANY THAT SOMEONE HAS AN IDEA, UM, TO SET UP ROOTS HERE IN OUR TOWN.

BUT YOU ALSO SAID TO, TO GROW ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

YEAH.

UM, ALSO, I THINK TO SUPPORT THE ENTREPRENEURS THAT ARE HERE AND TO HELP THEM BECOME MORE STABLE AND MORE VITAL TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK IT IS TWO SIDED, UM, FROM THAT ASPECT.

I THINK MR. BROWN HAD A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS.

UH, DIDN'T MEAN TO SIDETRACK FROM YOUR QUESTIONS THERE.

SORRY.

I'M GOOD.

I'M JUST GATHER INFORMATION.

I THINK, UH, JUST ADDING ONTO WHAT I SAID AS WELL, UM, AND I THINK DURING THE, THE COUNCIL MEETING, MS. COLICK SAID IT REALLY, REALLY WELL, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE WAS A, IF WE DID GO FOR OPTION THREE AND WE DID BRING IT IN-HOUSE, THAT JOB OF FILLING THAT SLOT IS VERY, WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

I THINK THE SUCCESS OF THE FULL SHIFT FAST TRACK, UM, HAS BEEN A LOT ON MATT'S SHOULDERS.

MATT YELVINGTON, WHO'S THE, THE, THE CURRENT CANON REP.

HE'S PASSIONATE AND

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WHAT HE BRINGS TO THE TABLE, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNTS FOR A LOT OF THE SUCCESS THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT NOT ONE, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A SPECIAL PERSON TO, TO DO WHAT HE'S CURRENTLY DOING WITH A PASSION THAT HE HAS AND THE IDEAS, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T ENVY THE CHOICE OF OR CHANCE OF, OF, OF, UH, INTERVIEWING THAT AND THAT PERSON, BUT IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AND, AND GETTING THAT CORRECT PERSON, I THINK THIS'S GONNA THRIVE.

SO, UM, FOR ME, LOOKING AT IT FROM THE OUTSIDE, UM, IF ONLY WE COULD, I THINK WE COULD DO MORE WITH, UH, FOUR SHARE FAST TRACK BECAUSE I'VE HAD, UM, SOME, UM, FRIENDS AND, UM, BUSINESS PARTNERS WHO ATTENDED.

I ALSO ATTENDED ONE OF THE, UM, THE PROGRAMS AND, UM, BUT FROM THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE, WHAT THEY TOLD ME WAS THAT, UM, THE INFORMATION THEY GOT FROM THE PROGRAM WAS, UM, INFORMATION EASILY AVAILABLE ONLINE.

AND THAT, UM, IT WAS, MOST OF THEM DIDN'T LEARN ANYTHING NEW ON THE PROGRAM.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, WE ACTUALLY ACHIEVING OUR GOALS, HAVING THAT PROGRAM, HAVING THE CITY, UH, PITCHING SOMETHING FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THAT PROGRAM.

THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

YEAH, I'D LOVE MORE DETAILS ON WHICH PROGRAM THEY ATTENDED, IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW, AT A LATER TIME, JUST SO WE CAN PASS IT ALONG.

I THINK IT WAS THE ONE IN THE ROOM OVER THERE.

I HAVE TO GET THE NAME.

IT WAS THE ONE IN THE ROOM RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I FULLY APPRECIATE THAT'S YOUR, YOUR, YOUR TAKE ON WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WAS WELL RECEIVED.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF, UM, OPEN FORUMS SPECIFICALLY AT IRENE STERN WHERE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, BANKERS, WE'VE HAD ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, LEGAL REPRESENTATION.

WE HAD ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE ATTENDED, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THOSE SIT DOWN ONE-ON-ONES, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS DIFFERENT SUCCESS STORIES.

UM, HUMBLE GROUNDS WAS ONE AT THE TIME.

I THINK THE RESPONSE THAT WE GOT FROM THAT IS, IS TOTAL CONTRADICTION OF WHAT YOU HAD SAID.

AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT GOING TIT FOR TAT.

YOU JUST MAY HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, ONE PARTICULAR MEETING THAT ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY THERE WASN'T A GREAT DEAL OF FEEDBACK THAT DOESN'T SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE OF THE FORCE.

FAST TRACK.

THERE'D BEEN A LOT MORE SUCCESS.

YEAH.

THE FEEDBACK WASN'T JUST FROM ME.

I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT GENERAL FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE.

I JUST SAID I ATTENDED ONE, I HAD NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE ONE I ATTENDED.

UH, 'CAUSE WHAT I WENT IN THERE FOR, I PROBABLY FOUND IT THERE, BUT OTHER PEOPLE PROBABLY DIDN'T FIND WHAT THEY WENT IN THERE FOR.

THAT'S MY POINT.

YEAH.

OKAY, GOOD.

ANDREW, I BELIEVE HAD A COMMENT.

UM, SO I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, UM, THE STARTUP COMMUNITY FOR OVER 10 YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN MANY, MANY PER PERMUTATIONS ABOUT IT, UH, HERE IN THE HOUSTON AREA, IN THE AUSTIN AREA, DALLAS-FORT WORTH IN THE CHICAGO AREA.

A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU HAVE A GOOD PARTNER IN THIS KIND OF ARENA, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS NOT ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE ENTREPRENEURS THEMSELVES WHO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE AS ENTREPRENEURS, WORKING WITH OTHER ENTREPRENEURS, BUT ALSO THE CONNECTIONS AND THE NETWORK INTO THE FINANCE AND TO SOURCES OF FUNDING, WHICH IS MUCH HARDER TO COME, UH, TO COME ABOUT.

UM, AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER COMPONENTS TO THAT AS WELL, TRAINING, DEVELOPMENT, ET CETERA.

AND YOU'VE GOT THE FRAMEWORK THAT'S NECESSARY FOR HAVING AN ECOSYSTEM THAT NOT ONLY SUSTAINS YOU, BUT THEN HELPS YOU SCALE UP AND GROW.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY, MANY ATTEMPTS AT MAKING THIS HAPPEN, UH, IN, AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY HERE IN THE HOUSTON AREA OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, THERE'VE PROBABLY BEEN ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS ON THIS.

AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT, UM, SOME OF THEM WERE INITIATED BY ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS, UH, LED BY ACADEMICS WHO HAD A GOOD IDEA ABOUT WHAT ENTREPRENEURSHIP WAS ABOUT, BUT WERE NEVER ENTREPRENEURS THEMSELVES.

YOU HAD OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WERE FUNDED BY CITIES AND EVEN COUNTIES.

UM, AND THE FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR THOSE WAS, AGAIN, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ENTREPRENEURS, BUT WHO ARE IN GOVERNMENT TRYING TO TELL ENTREPRENEURS HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.

AND HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO THE, THE, THE CAUTION THAT I WOULD TEE UP WAS, WHO'S INVOLVED DOES MATTER, UH,

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AND THEIR FRAME OF REFERENCE TO WHAT THE SITUATION IS AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO DOES MATTER.

AND THAT THE PEOPLE WITH THE CAPABILITIES AND SKILLS THAT YOU BRING TO BEAR ABSOLUTELY DO MATTER.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, EITHER WE TAKE AN ENTREPRENEUR FOR ENTREPRENEURS, UH, SAKE APPROACH, UH, OR WE RUN THE RISK OF EITHER HAVING ACADEMICS OR PUBLIC SECTOR MINDSETS, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KINDA LIKE A SQUARE HOLE IN THE, UH, AND A AROUND PEG.

UH, YOU'RE GONNA FORCE THINGS AND IT'S NOT GONNA QUITE WORK THE WAY YOU THINK.

SO BE CAREFUL AROUND THAT.

UM, THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD HERE WERE, WERE FOR STARTUPS THAT ARE STARTUPS, LIKE LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN IDEA, HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DON'T EVEN HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN TOGETHER.

UH, BUT THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A PREMISE FOR A REALLY GOOD BUSINESS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE.

UH, AND, AND I'VE BEEN TO SOME OF THE RE FAST TRACK AND I'VE SEEN THAT'S WHO ATTEND SOME OF THOSE EVENTS.

AND THAT'S FINE.

YOU, YOU, YOU NEED SOME OF THAT KIND OF THE ENTRY LEVEL.

UM, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES HERE IN, IN, IN, IN SHORE AND PLACES LIKE CROSS CREEK SHORE RUN, THEY'RE NOT STARTUPS.

THEY, THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED UP.

AND THE STAGE WHERE THEY'RE IN NOW IS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SCALE UP, LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW THE BUSINESS AND DO SOMETHING BREAKOUT.

UM, AND WHEN I WAS INVOLVED IN THE EDCS PRIOR TO THIS, WE KEPT RUNNING INTO THOSE KINDS OF SITUATIONS.

BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT FOLKS WHO WERE AT THAT STAGE READY TO SCALE UP, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANYBODY HERE IN THE CITY SAYING, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO STAY AROUND.

WE WANT TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO HELP YOU AND STAY HERE.

THEY GOT RECRUITED AWAY.

THEY WOULD GO TO, UH, THEY WOULD GO TO, UH, CONFERENCES.

THEY WOULD GO TO, UH, UH, TRADE SHOWS, AND THEY WOULD SHOW WHAT THEY THEY'RE DOING.

AND THE, THE, THE, THE VERY GOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE IN THOSE CITIES SAYS, WELL, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE YOU HARING FROM? WELL, WHY DON'T YOU MOVE TO SAN ANTONIO? OR WHY DON'T YOU MOVE, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM SHORE AND, AND, AND WE'LL HELP YOU INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND WE'LL HELP YOU GROW AND SCALE THE BUSINESS.

AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE RUN THE RISK OF MISSING OUT ON MORE OF THOSE WE HAVE ALREADY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DEMONSTRATE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND PARTICULARLY OUR ENTREPRENEURIAL COMMUNITY, THAT WE DO MEAN BUSINESS, THAT WE DO WANT TO HELP THEM.

AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE STARTUPS, IT'S ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE READY TO SCALE UP, ARE READY TO MOVE OUT OF THE GARAGE OR THE OFFICE BUS OFFICE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE HOME, UH, OFFICE, UH, INTO SOMETHING MUCH MORE FORMAL.

UM, AND, AND JUST HAVING THE, THE, THE ME MECHANISM IN PLACE AND THE PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN EFFECTIVELY.

I THINK, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO THAT'S NOT REALLY BEEN PUSHED FORWARD THROUGH MATT'S UPDATES, AND AGAIN, BEING PART OF THE, UH, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THERE, IT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU MENTIONED A LOT OF PHYSICAL STARTUPS, UM, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT'S OBVIOUSLY STARTED HAPPENING AS WELL AS IS ALSO, UH, MATT STARTING THE CONVERSATIONS WITH REGARDS INVESTMENT AS PEOPLE APPROACHING THE FO FAST TRACK, WILLING TO INVEST IN SAID STARTUPS RAISED THROUGH THE F FAST TRACK.

SO THAT'S JUST A NATURAL PROGRESSION OF, OF GROWTH WITHIN THE F FAST TRACK.

SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE, UM, IF, IF JUST ONE MAYBE SMALL THING TO MAYBE DO AS A, AS AN INTERIM APPROACH IS SINCE THERE'S BEEN ON BOTH A BOARD AND B BOARD, A LOT OF QUESTIONS AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS, A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE METRICS, THE METRICS THAT THEY'RE GETTING, OR THE METRICS THAT WERE IN THE CONTRACT.

MAYBE PART OF THE ANSWER IS TO, UH, A QUESTIONNAIRE OR SOME SORT OF COMMUNICATION WITH EVERYBODY ASKING, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR QUESTIONS? WHAT METRICS ARE YOU NOT GETTING, UM, THAT, THAT YOU WANT AND NEED? AND MAYBE THEN THAT PROVIDES US WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN, YES, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YES, HERE'S THE METRIC FOR THAT, OR THIS IS WHY IT CAN'T BE PROVIDED, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

I DON'T KNOW.

IS THAT A ONE WAY TO APPROACH IT AS KIND OF AN INTERIM SMALL STEP? YES, DEFINITELY.

I GUESS NOW WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION, I'M WONDERING, OKAY, IS A, IS A STAFF PERSON CAPABLE? IF WE, IF WE SAY WE DO RECOMMEND OPTION THREE, DO WE THINK A STAFF PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO FULFILL MATT'S DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES MOVING AHEAD? OR ARE WE SETTING OURSELF UP FOR

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MAYBE LESS THAN A HUNDRED PERCENT RESULTS? I, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST, I'M THINKING OUT LOUD HERE.

I MEAN, I WAS KINDA LEANING TOWARDS OPTION THREE, LIKE, OKAY, PERSON GETS TRAINED, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

BUT NOW LISTENING TO SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS, JUST WANT TO QUESTION THAT.

SURE.

I MEAN, UH, I THINK OBVIOUSLY IT'S, WE'RE SPECULATING HERE.

THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW FOR CERTAIN.

UM, I THINK THAT THERE, WE FOUND MATT, SO THERE HAS TO BE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE HIM WITH THAT BACKGROUND.

UM, IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON WHAT THAT JOB SEARCH WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU THINK OF YOUR WORKPLACE, WE CAN ALL, UM, PICTURE THOSE PEOPLE THAT INSPIRE US THAT COME IN, HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, THEY'RE QUICK LEARNERS, THEY'RE, UM, TAKE THE INITIATIVE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE FACTORS COULD PLAY A ROLE IN THAT, WHO THAT PERSON IS, HOW QUICKLY THEY COULD PICK IT UP.

UM, AS YOU SEE IN OPTION THREE, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, KEEP MATT UNTIL WE FELT COMFORTABLE, UM, DOING THAT.

AND THE CONNECTION, HOPEFULLY TO THE CANNON WOULD ALWAYS BE THERE.

BUT, UM, LEE, THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT, THAT THAT COST WOULDN'T JUST BE FOREVER, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS, OKAY, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST $200,000, IT'S $200,000 FOR HOW MANY YEARS, AND AT THAT POINT IT BECOMES THIS HUGE INVESTMENT.

UM, SO I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE, UM, OR IT WOULDN'T BE ON THE TABLE, BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE KNOW WITH CERTAINTY.

THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF RISK, UH, IN ALL OF IT.

UH, I THINK WHAT THE BEST WE CAN DO IS ASSESS WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS TELLING US THEY NEED.

UM, FIND THE BEST WAY TO FILL THAT NEED AND PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, AND ADJUST AS NEEDED, YOU KNOW, BASED ON HOW IT'S GOING.

SO JUST CONTINUE EVALUATING AND ADJUSTING.

I THINK WITH THE, WITH THE ATTEMPTS MADE EARLY ENOUGH, UH, TO FIND THAT STAFF PERSON, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT ASSIST WITH, YOU KNOW, FINDING THOSE SET INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE UTILIZING THE CANON WITHIN THEIR ENTREPRENEUR, ENVI, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENT.

THERE'S, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, DOORS THAT WOULD OPEN WITHIN THEM TO, TO ASSIST, HAVE THEM ASSIST IN.

'CAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THE GUYS WERE VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS THE WAY YOU WANT TO GO AND GO IN-HOUSE.

THEY'RE VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

AND WE'VE SEEN THEM GROW WITH THAT AS WELL.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, SO IIII THINK FINDING THE PERSON, YES, WHILST IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

LET'S SEE, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION OR DO WE NEED TO HEAR FROM OTHERS, OR, YEAH, I JUST REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHICH OPTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET.

UM, I THINK NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RESPONSIVE TO THE COUNCIL, UH, TO DEVELOP METRICS THAT ARE ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS AND PROVIDING A, A WAY TO GIVE A TRUE GAUGE OF IS THIS ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WE EXPECT IT TO MM-HMM .

AND REQUIRE IT TO, OR IF THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, IS NOT MEASURING UP.

SURE.

BUT IF WE TAKE ON OPTION, I MEAN, I'M PUSHING FOR OPTION THREE, BUT YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE TAKE ON OPTION THREE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT FIRST STEP WITHIN THAT WOULD BE TO TAKE THE ACTUAL REPORTING IN-HOUSE STRAIGHT AWAY, TAKE THE REPORTING AWAY FROM, UM, THE CANNON AND UNDERSTAND THAT UNTIL YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE PRESENTING TO, TO COUNSEL, AND IF COUNSEL IS ACCEPTANCE ON THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT YOU ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION FOR THAT, UH, CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE CANON AND THE WHOEVER THAT IN-HOUSE PERSON IS, THE RESPONSIBILITY STILL LIES IN HOUSE TO PROVIDE COUNSEL WITH THAT INFORMATION.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YOU KNOW, YES.

OKAY.

THE CONVERSATION'S GONNA BE WITH THE CANON, BUT ULTIMATELY WHEN SOMEONE STANDS UP IN FRONT OF COUNSEL TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PERIOD OF TIME, THAT INFORMATION COMES FROM IN-HOUSE, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.

I BELIEVE TAKING THAT RESPONSIBILITY PUSHES US EVEN MORE TOWARDS THE COMMITMENT OF, YOU KNOW, TAKING IT.

SURE.

RIGHT.

I STILL THINK, WHETHER IT'S THE CANDIDATE OR SOMEONE IN HOUSE, WE STILL WANT TO HAVE THE, UH, METRICS AND TO BE ABLE TO MEASURE IF THAT IS, UH, ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WE NEED IT TO FOR OUR ECONOMIC STRATEGIC PLAN.

DEFINITELY.

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OKAY.

SO WE WILL BUDGET FOR OPTION THREE AND BRING THAT, UM, AT THE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD SET A BUDGET NUMBER IF WE WANT IT IN THE BUDGET, BUT IT STILL HAS TO GO ULTIMATELY BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH I KNOW THAT THEY'LL DEBATE IT, AND HOPEFULLY BY THAT TIME WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FURTHER ON THOSE, UH, METRICS AND SPECS SO THAT, UH, THEY CAN HAVE A, A GOOD DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE OR WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT.

EXACTLY.

SO THIS, THIS IS JUST SHOWING WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE.

UM, WE WOULD PRESENT BOTH A BOARD AND B BOARD'S, UM, PREFERENCE WITHIN THE DRAFT OF THE BUDGET TO OUR CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THEY CAN APPROVE THE BUDGET WITH OR WITHOUT THAT ITEM.

WELL, IF, IF YOU'RE PRESENTING A BUDGET FOR OPTION THREE, THE OPTION, IT'S JUST THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF US, IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE OPTION.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY BUDGETING FOR ANY OPTION THAT WE WANT TO PICK LATER FROM A MONETARY POINT OF VIEW.

RIGHT.

SO WE NEED TO PROVIDE A DIRECTION AS WELL.

CORRECT.

NOT JUST A BUDGETARY AMOUNT WE NEED TO PROVIDE.

YEAH, I MEAN, DIRECTION WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

UM, I THINK FOR ALL OF US TO KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW IT'S TIED TO THE DOLLARS.

UM, WE DON'T NEED TO LIKE CASH IT ALL OUT TONIGHT IN THAT SENSE.

I THINK JUST HAVING THE NUMBERS, UM, TO HOLD THAT PLACE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT OUR GOALS ARE IS OKAY.

YEAH.

ULTIMATELY, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, WE'LL, I SAY THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GET TO OUR LIST OF ADDITIONAL METRICS.

THERE WILL BE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD.

I MEAN, IT WOULD BE AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS.

UM, THE, THE CURRENT CONTRACT GOES TO DECEMBER, SO IT IS JUST VERY INVOLVED.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

ULTIMATELY, I THINK KIND OF MARK WHAT YOU PIGGYBACK OFF THAT AND BUDGET FOR MAYBE OPTION THREE.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A SUPPORTIVE OPTION ONE AND OPTION THREE, BUT THEN AFTER KIND OF WATCHING COUNCIL'S MEETING, I WAS MORE LEANING OR LEANING TOWARDS ONE.

AND THEN KIND OF AFTER LEE AND ANDREW'S TAKE, I'M DEFINITELY REALLY SET ON OPTION ONE RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S THEIR DIRECTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO AS OF RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY JUST FOR YEAR THREE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A YOUNG PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE, UM, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE WHAT IT'S DOING AND I, I GUESS I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY CHANGE THE DIRECTION RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO MY DIRECTION OR DIRECTIVE OR OPINION WOULD BE TO GO WITH OPTION ONE RIGHT NOW.

MM-HMM .

I AGREE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, HANG ON JUST A SECOND.

HANG ON A SECOND.

A SECOND.

UH, YEAH, IT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM.

THIS IS, UH, JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM.

SO I THINK SHE'S JUST LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS.

OKAY.

I WOULD SAY OPTION ONE, TWO FOR ME.

UM, AND TO ADD EVEN FURTHER, UM, PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO JUDGE A NEW PROGRAM ALSO WITH A NEW RESIDENTIAL BASE.

UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MOVED HERE 10 MINUTES AGO AND THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT EXISTS.

SO YOU'VE GOT A NEW PROGRAM IN A , THE PACE IS LIKE INSANE, THE GROWTH IN OUR CITY.

AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A NEW PROGRAM IN AN ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT DEAL, BUT YOU'RE KIND OF, WE'VE ALMOST GOT TWO STRIKES.

WE'RE KIND OF OVERCOMING TWO OBSTACLES HERE.

WE HAVE A NEW COMMUNITY THAT'S GROWTH IS INSANE, AND WE HAVE A NEW PROGRAM.

AND SO I THINK THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO REALLY START HAVING SOMETHING WE CAN SINK OUR TEETH INTO.

UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO GIVE IT A SHOT.

I MEAN, LIKE, WE, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S TIME TO PULL THE PLUG YET.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE PREMATURE.

MM-HMM .

SIMPLY PUT, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF OPTION ONE ALSO, AND I HAD KIND OF AS JUST PART OF THE CONVERSATION SAID THAT I, THAT I AGREE WITH, UM, THAT OPTION THREE WAS A GREAT OPTION, BUT I'VE REALLY GONE EITHER ONE, ONE OR THREE.

IT DIDN'T COME ACROSS THAT WAY IN MY FIRST COMMENT, BUT EITHER ONE WAS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, TO ME, BECAUSE IT IS, LIKE JEN SAID, IT IS A NEW PROGRAM AND YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING THAT VISIONARY, UM, TIME TO, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD AND TO ACHIEVE OBJECTIVES.

AND YOU, YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN JUST A FEW MONTHS WITH SOMETHING AS VISIONARY AS THIS IS AND INNOVATIVE, I THINK IT, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I THINK IT STRUGGLES JUST LOOKING AT ONE YEAR,

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YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUSED ON WHAT THE OVERALL PLAN IS.

YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS A THREE YEAR PLAN, IF IT'S A FIVE YEAR PLAN, I DON'T WANNA BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION EVERY YEAR AND STARTING TO FIGHT FOR, FOR SOMETHING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE FOR AND SOME PEOPLE ARE AGAINST.

YOU KNOW, I I THINK GOING BACK TO THE COMMENTS I MADE BEFORE WE EITHER FULLY SUPPORT IT WITH A FIVE YEAR PLAN, AND AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS IT IS IN HOUSE.

YOU KNOW, I, I THINK LOOKING JUST, OKAY, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE TWO YEARS WE'VE SEEN THE GROWTH OF IT.

MY COMMENTS ARE ORIGINALLY AROUND OPTION THREE, WERE TO TRY AND TAKE IT IN-HOUSE.

UNDERSTANDING THERE, THERE, AT SOME POINT IT HAS TO COME IN HOUSE THAT WE CAN'T JUST KEEP GOING WITH THE, THE CANON INDEFINITELY.

YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SAYING AFTER THREE YEARS THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GONNA GO IN-HOUSE AND WE ALL LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY SUPPORT OPTION ONE FOR ONE MORE YEAR, TWO MORE YEARS WITH A VIEW TO THEN GO IN-HOUSE.

EITHER WAY, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLEAR AND UNDERSTANDING PLAN THAT EVERYONE SUPPORTS AND WE DON'T KEEP REINVENTING THE WHEEL EVERY YEAR COME BUDGET TIME.

YEAH.

AND SIMILAR SENTIMENT WHERE EXPRESSED THAT COUNCIL AS WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE START MOVING TOWARDS, IT'S TOO SOON TO START MOVING TOWARDS, UM, BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL PERSON IN-HOUSE AND KIND OF DISRUPTING THE MOMENTUM.

IT'S, IT'S GOT GOING WHEN THE MOMENTUM IS GOOD.

UM, I THINK WE WE'RE LEARNING A LOT AND WE HAVE BEEN LEARNING A LOT.

UM, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY WEEK BY WEEK THROUGH THE PROGRAMMING OF IT, UM, KIND OF WHAT MR. OTU IS SAYING, WE, WE WILL OFFER A PROGRAM AND WE'LL FIND THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I KNEW ALL OF THAT.

AND SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHAT IS SEO AND WHY DO I CARE? UM, SO YOU, YOU HAVE TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE TO ADAPT TO ALL THE NEEDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING.

UM, AND I FEEL, UM, REALLY CONFIDENT ABOUT THE EFFORT WE'VE MADE TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT I, I DO THINK ANOTHER, ANOTHER YEAR OF HOW IT'S SET WOULD REALLY HELP US, UM, ESPECIALLY IF WE CONTINUE TO GET THAT FEEDBACK ON, OKAY, WHAT METRICS DO WE CARE ABOUT? UM, CAN WE REPORT THIS? NO.

OKAY.

WHAT MAKES YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE? UM, I THINK COME THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE I'LL BE, UM, OR HAVE MORE OF THE MAJORITY BE ON THE SAME PAGE TO THEN DECIDE, OKAY, WHAT DOES YEARS THREE AND FOUR LOOK LIKE? HOW FAR ARE WE OUT FROM A PHYSICAL LOCATION? WHICH HAS BEEN THE ULTIMATE GOAL, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PROVE THAT THERE IS A NEED HERE, TO HAVE PEOPLE READY TO FILL A PHYSICAL SPACE.

UM, AND, AND ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING.

UM, I THINK WE JUST REALLY NEED TO IMPROVE THE WAY THAT WE'RE REPORTING THAT AND HOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING THAT, THE FREQUENCY AND MAYBE JUST THE, UM, MANAGING THE DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS.

OKAY.

UH, THINK, UH, I HEAR GENERALLY OPTION ONE WITH THE CAVEAT OF WORKING DILIGENTLY TO CONTINUE COMMUNICATING WITH COUNSEL AND, UH, TRYING TO FULFILL THOSE METRICS AND MEASUREMENTS MM-HMM .

UM, A BETTER DEFINING THOSE, RIGHT.

BETTER DEFINING THOSE METRICS AND MEASUREMENTS, CORRECT.

YEAH.

COLLECTIVELY, MM-HMM .

CORRECT.

COLLECTIVELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

WE DEFINITELY WANT THEM PART OF THE CONVERSATION, UM, AND COLLABORATING WITH THEM.

IF, IF MATT CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF OUTPUT FOR THAT.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLAN FOR THE, THE QUESTIONNAIRE OR THE SURVEY OR THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE METRICS COMBINED WITH THE SURVEY AGAIN TO MM-HMM .

TO EXPAND MM-HMM .

UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IN 30 DAYS, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT PLAN SO THAT WE CAN ACT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE SOMETHING OUT.

COOL.

OKAY.

ARE WE DONE WITH THAT ONE? I THINK SO.

THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.

OKAY.

AH, LET'S SEE.

WHERE ARE WE? 3G

[Business - G]

REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR 26, BUDGET, PROCESS, SCHEDULE AND DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY.

SO IN YOUR PACKETS, UM, THIS MONTH WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU A DRAFT OF OUR, UM, FY 26 BUDGET FOR YOUR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION.

UM, YOU ALSO HAVE IN THERE A COPY OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CORPORATION AND THE CITY AS WELL.

UM, NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THAT.

UM, I KNOW HAYDEN SENT OUT A COPY WITH JUST A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON, UM, ALL, ALL THE POSITIONS INSTEAD OF JUST THE DEPARTMENTS, UM, THAT WE WORK WITH.

AND THEN, UM, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS, UM, THE SPREADSHEET AND I CAN COVER ANY LINE ITEM

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THAT THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE MADE TO.

UM, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE ITEMS OR ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, MAINTAINING THE SAME AMOUNT, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AS WELL.

AM I OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? OKAY.

WE'LL START, UM, AN ACCOUNT 100, 180.

UM, SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE NOTE SECTION IS WHAT I'LL BE GOING DOWN, IF THERE'S A NOTE, THERE WAS A CHANGE AND IT EXPLAINS THE CHANGE.

UM, SO SOME OF THESE ARE JUST SOME REDUCTIONS.

WE MADE THOSE BASED ON LOOKING AT WHAT WE'VE SPENT THIS YEAR.

UM, AND, UH, WE'LL START WITH THE PUBLICATIONS AND REFERENCE MATERIAL.

WE'RE JUST REDUCING THAT LINE BY A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

UM, UH, UNDERNEATH THAT, UH, THERE WAS A LINE FOR POTENTIAL NEW EMPLOYEES.

I THINK WE, WE HAD REDUCED IT WHEN WE PRESENTED IT LAST MONTH, BUT JUST DECIDED TO KEEP IT IN CASE WE DID CHANGE.

UM, CHOOSE AN OPTION THAT REQUIRED US TO HIRE A NEW MEMBER FOR FULL SUR FAST TRACK.

UM, LET'S SEE, FOR OUR TELECOMMUNICATIONS LINE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE REMOVED AND INCLUDED AS PART OF THE SHARED SERVICES, UM, WITH JESUS, WHO IS OUR IT DIRECTOR.

SO IN CASE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT ONE WAS LIKE INCLUDED AS A LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET, IT'S JUST SHOULD BE PART OF THE SHARED SERVICES AGREEMENT.

AND THEN, UM, WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO PRINTING AS WELL.

WE JUST, UH, REMOVED THAT LINE.

WE FELT IT WAS REPETITIVE WITHIN OTHER LINES, AND SO IT'S ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR.

THERE WAS NO NEED TO HAVE, UM, DUPLICATES HERE.

UM, A REQUEST WE DID RECEIVE PREVIOUSLY WHEN, UM, Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THE BUDGET IS FOR THE DUES AND MEMBERSHIPS FOR, UM, OURSELVES AND THE DUES AND MEMBERSHIPS FOR THE ORGANIZATION TO BE CLEARLY OUTLINED.

SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE NOTES HERE, WE PLACE THE AMOUNT OF, UM, THE, THE COST FOR THAT ENTITY'S MEMBERSHIP BESIDE IT.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE FOR DUES AND MEMBERSHIPS, UM, HAYDEN AND I ARE MEMBERS OF THE TEXAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, UM, ICSE AND, UM, THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE.

SO IT SHOWS YOU THE AMOUNTS THERE.

AND THEN, UM, BELOW THAT, THE ORGANIZATIONS, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE, THE SAME EXACT THING.

SO THESE ARE ALL OF OUR REGIONAL CHAMBERS OR OTHER, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE MEMBERSHIPS WITH AND AT WHAT LEVEL WE, WE HAVE JOINED, UH, JUST FOR YOU TO KNOW.

UH, AND THEN BELOW THAT, TRAVEL AND TRAINING.

SO THIS AMOUNT WE REDUCED, UM, FROM THE $21,500 TO, UM, $15,000.

AND, UM, AS A REMINDER, AS A BOARD, YOU, YOU DO GET A TRAVEL AND TRAINING, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN OUR NEXT, BUT THIS IS WHAT COVERS, UM, ANY OF OUR TRAININGS.

SOME OF THEM FOR MYSELF AND HAYDEN ARE, UM, JUST MANDATORY IN OUR FIELD.

OTHERS ARE OPTIONAL.

SOME OF THOSE YOU HAVE REQUESTED ARE PRESENCE AT TO REPRESENT THE CITY.

SO THOSE ARE ALWAYS FLEXIBLE.

UM, IF THERE IS ANY THAT COME UP THAT YOU SEE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ATTEND, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON, UM, ON ANY OF THESE SO FAR? OKAY.

I'LL MOVE ON TO, UM, THE 700 ACCOUNTS.

AND I'LL START, UH, DOWN WITH OUR ADMINIS, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR LEGAL.

UM, SO HERE WE ARE REDUCING FROM THE 55,000 TO 30,000.

AGAIN, THAT WAS JUST AFTER REVIEWING OUR EXPENSES.

WE HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD INCREASE BASED ON SPLITTING UP OUR BOARDS LAST YEAR, BUT FOUND THAT OUR MEETINGS WERE MUCH SHORTER AND WE DIDN'T NEED TO SPEND THAT MUCH.

SO WE'RE JUST REDUCING SOME OF THAT THIS YEAR.

AND THEN FOR OUR, UM, FULL SHARE BUSINESS ENTREPRENEURSHIP HUB, WE JUST PLACE THAT IN THERE, UM, AS A, UH, A PLACEHOLDER, BUT WE'LL EDIT THAT AMOUNT, UM, WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR OPTION ONE.

AND THEN, LET'S SEE, DUES AND MEMBERSHIPS.

UM, THIS IS THE SAME, BUT THE SAME CONCEPT THAT YOU SAW IN THE 180 ACCOUNT, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR YOU ALL.

SO, UH, IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD BOARD MEMBERS THAT SAY, HEY, I WANNA BE A MEMBER OF T-E-D-C-S, WELL, CAN YOU PLEASE REGISTER ME? WE DO BUDGET FOR THAT.

UM, IT PROVIDES A LOT OF HELPFUL, UM, SEMINARS AND WORKSHOPS AND EDUCATION THAT YOU CAN PARTICIPATE, WHETHER IT'S ONLINE OR IN PERSON.

UM, SO JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR YOU AS WELL AS THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING IF IT IS IN PERSON.

IT COVERS YOUR TRAVEL THERE, YOUR HOTEL, AND ALL OF THAT.

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ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? OKAY.

AND THEN THE LAST, UM, 7 0 1 ACCOUNT, YOU'LL SEE A COMMENT HERE ON TARGETED INCENTIVES.

UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON DEVELOPING, UM, SORRY, I SEE THAT'S MISSPELLED SMALL BUSINESS GRANT, UH, POLICY AND APPLICATION.

SO, UM, THIS IS WHAT WAS BUDGETED LAST YEAR.

THIS AMOUNT CAN CHANGE IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, UM, CHANGED IN.

UM, I DO HAVE AN UPDATE ON HOW THAT'S GOING, WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS MORE DETAILS ON THAT.

UM, BUT IT, IT CAN ALSO BE AMENDED IN THE BUDGET DOWN THE ROAD DEPENDING ON THE INTEREST SHOWN BY THE COMMUNITY, UH, ONCE THAT POLICY IS DEVELOPED, ESTABLISHED, ADOPTED, AND IMPLEMENTED.

UM, SO IF, IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH THAT AMOUNT, WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE IT, IT'S UP TO YOU.

JUST ON THAT, I MEAN, I SAY IT'S BEEN BUDGETED, IT WAS BUDGETED FOR 2025.

SO WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT IN 2025 AND ACTUAL USAGE? UH, WE'VE USED NONE OF IT, UH, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE, THE POLICY ESTABLISHED.

OKAY.

SO IS OUR INTENT TO ESTABLISH IT, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT.

YEAH.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID THE OVERALL POLICY WITH THE CITY, THE BIG ONE.

NOW WE'RE GOING BACK AND GONNA WORK ON THAT FOCUSED ONE FOR OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

YES, SIR.

UH, OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE ONLY OTHER NUMBER THAT CHANGES IS PROMOTIONAL EXPENSES.

AND IN THE NOTES YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, THAT IS SET BY STATUTE.

IT'S BASED ON 10% OF OUR PROJECTED SALES TAX COLLECTIONS.

AND IT'S THE ONLY LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET WHERE THE, UM, FUNDS LEFT OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR, ROLL OVER DIRECTLY INTO THIS LINE, UM, BY STATUTE, ANY EVENTS THAT WE, UM, CONTRIBUTE ANY DOLLARS TO HAVE TO COME OUT OF PROMOTIONAL EXPENSES.

AND SO, UM, WE DO LIKE TO KEEP OUR EVENTS LINE SEPARATE JUST TO BE ABLE TO BETTER TRACK HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING AND WHERE IT'S GOING.

SO WE JUST SUBTRACT THE EVENT SPECIFIC LINE FROM THIS AMOUNT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WITHIN STATUTE, BUT PROVIDING AS MUCH TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY IN HOW, HOW ALL THAT'S BEING SPENT.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR CHANGES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR INPUT YOU WOULD LIKE TO, TO GIVE US? I GUESS, IS THIS WHERE YOU'LL ADD, I GUESS THERE'LL BE A, WILL IT BE A FOR TRANSFER OUT FOR THE THE LIFT STATION PROJECT? YES, SIR.

SO THAT'LL INCREASE THAT BOTTOM LINE THERE? YES, IT WOULD BY UP TO 600,000.

YES.

AND, UH, ALL THOSE, THE, THE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE DOWN THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, VOTED BY YOU ALL AND THEN DECLARED PROJECTS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

SO IF THOSE AMOUNTS HAVE NOT BEEN USED BY NOW, IT WILL CARRY OVER INTO FY 26, UM, TO BE AVAILABLE FOR WHEN THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AND TO BE USED.

I SEE THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE ON THE STUDIES EXPENSE.

WHAT DOES THAT ACCOUNT FOR? UM, WHERE ARE YOU AT, UH, UNDERNEATH THE ACCOUNT? NUMBER THREE EXPENSE? UM, YEAH, SO STUDIES HERE, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE, UM, LIKE OUR PUBLIC WORKS CAME.

IT WAS IN, WAS THIS FOR THE YEAH, IT'S FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

FOR STRATEGIC PLAN.

OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK WE, WE HAD BUDGETED THIS AMOUNT FOR A, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE HAD, OH, THE, THE REDO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT MM-HMM .

WE HAD GOTTEN DIRECTION THAT YOU ALL WANTED TO RE REFRESH A STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

UM, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE FOUND VARIOUS OTHER STUDIES THAT COME UP, WHETHER IT'S DEMOGRAPHICS OR, UM, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A HEALTHY BUDGET AVAILABLE, UM, WHETHER IT'S FOR US OR, UM, OTHER NEEDS THAT ARISE WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE ALL KIND OF CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS.

SO WE, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THE TEXAS HERITAGE PARKWAY PROJECT, THE CAPITAL LA IS ZERO AND NOTHING BUDGETED FOR 2026.

WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S A, THAT'S A NUMBER THAT WE NEED TO, AS A CHANCE FOR A 2026.

THAT ONE'S ACTUALLY ON A SCHEDULE.

UM, THAT WAS SET IN AN AGREEMENT A LONG TIME AGO.

IT'S THE 91,000 606 7.

NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL OUTLAY, UH, THE 5,600 ACCOUNT.

10 I, I THOUGHT THAT'S PROBABLY, I I WOULD THINK THAT'S THE ONE IN THE, THAT'S NOT THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, UH, NO, SOME OF THESE ACCOUNTS ARE LEFT OVER FROM PREVIOUS YEARS WHERE THEY'RE STILL REFLECTING ON HERE, BUT WE, WE JUST HAVEN'T, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE WORK WITH.

IT'LL ACTUALLY ROLL OFF NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

IT SHOULD, I THINK THIS IS THE LAST YEAR THAT IT'LL REFLECT ON THE BUDGET DOCUMENTS.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A NEW, NEW SIGN.

SO THAT'LL ACTUALLY COME OUT OF OUR, OUR PROMOTIONAL LINE.

UM, NOT THAT PROJECT, NOT THAT PARTICULAR.

OKAY.

SO WE WON'T LINE ITEM, IT

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WILL BE PROMOTION.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

GOOD TO KNOW.

AND WHEN WE WILL REVIEW THIS AGAIN AT OUR NEXT MEETING? THAT IS CORRECT.

WHEN DO WE OFFICIALLY APPROVE THIS? NEXT MONTH? YEAH, NEXT MONTH.

WE'LL, NEXT MONTH.

WE'LL, WE'LL NEED A FULL VOTE APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BY STATUTE APPROVE IT BY AUGUST 1ST.

AUGUST 1ST.

SO I THINK I BRING THIS UP EVERY YEAR, SO DON'T TAKE IT WRONG.

THE INTEREST REVENUE NEVER SEEMS TO CHANGE YEAR TO YEAR.

WE DON'T, INTEREST RATES ARE WAY UP AND OUR ACCOUNT BALANCES ARE WAY UP, BUT OUR INTEREST REVENUE NEVER INCREASES.

WE CAN ADD YEAH, I KNOW, MARK THAT I HAVE A WHOLE PARAGRAPH THAT FINANCE WILL BE PUT TOGETHER IN RESPONSE TO THAT.

UM, THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.

ANYTHING I COULD COME UP WITH ON THE SPOT RIGHT NOW? IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING DOWN.

SOMEHOW.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

.

YEAH, WE CAN CHECK ON THAT AND I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

I KNOW.

SORRY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE DRAFT BUDGET? AND LET'S SEE HERE.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PROPOSED REVENUE ALREADY, I THINK YEAH.

PARTICIPATING A 10% INCREASE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, ALL YOUR PREFERENCES INCLUDED HERE WILL BE PRESENTED, UM, TO COUNCIL AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR, UM, FINANCE DIRECTOR PRESENTING THAT PRELIMINARY BUDGET TOMORROW NIGHT AT COUNCIL.

UM, AND EVERYTHING THAT'S INCLUDED THERE IS SUBJECT TO COUNCIL'S FINAL APPROVAL.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SO I ASSUME WHAT'S GETTING PRESENTED TOMORROW NIGHT WILL BE WITH OUR UPDATED NUMBERS.

I'M SORRY.

I'M ASSUMING WHAT GETS PRESENTED TOMORROW NIGHT WILL BE WITH OUR UPDATED NUMBERS, UH, THE PRESENTATION IS PUT TOGETHER.

UM, 'CAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY CHANGED MM-HMM .

CONSIDERABLY WITH THE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.

WITH THE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT AND .

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, $800,000 DIFFERENCE.

SO IT'S MEET SUBSTANTIAL.

YEAH.

WE'LL MEET WITH OUR, UM, FINANCE DIRECTOR FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AND JUST HAVE, IF IT'S TOO LATE TO EDIT THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION OR THE PACKET, WE'LL MAKE SURE SHE SHARES THAT, UM, VERBALLY AS SHE'S GOING THROUGH.

GOOD JOB.

WE'VE GOT TWO MEMBERS HERE ALREADY, SO .

SO THEY'RE HAVING A LONG WEEK.

OKAY.

WELL, AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DONE DISCUSSING IT TONIGHT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T, IF YOU NOTICE SOMETHING, JUST PASS THAT ALONG TO ANELLE, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING AND THEN WE'LL COVER IT DURING OUR NEXT MEETING.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

[Recurring Items - A]

UH, ITEM FOUR IS RECURRING ITEMS FOUR A IS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REPORT.

ALRIGHT, I'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE, RETAIL STRATEGIES.

UM, SO THIS IS, UH, FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS, OUR RETAIL RECRUITMENT CONSULTANT THAT WE'VE PARTNERED WITH.

WE DO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM THIS COMING MONDAY, UM, TO REVIEW OUR, UH, RECRUITMENT STRATEGY.

AND THEY ARE PUTTING FINISHING TOUCHES ON REPORTS FROM THEIR CONNECTION TO ICSC.

WE HAVE RECEIVED, UM, UH, A SMALLER REPORT FROM THEM ALREADY.

UM, AND WE HAVE VARIOUS RETAILERS VERY INTERESTED, UM, THAT WE'RE CONNECTING WITH CURRENT DEVELOPERS WHO ARE, UM, WHO HAVE EITHER BROUGHT A SITE PLAN OR HAVE A SITE PLAN IN, IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REVIEWED.

UM, SO WE'RE, UM, REALLY ENJOYING WORKING WITH THEM AND WE HOPE TO HAVE MORE DETAILS TO SHARE WITH YOU HERE SOON.

UH, IS IF THERE'S ANY, UM, RETAIL THAT YOU HEAR, RETAIL RESTAURANT, ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, THEY WANNA SEE MORE OF, OF, OF PLEASE SHARE THAT WITH US SO THAT WE CAN FORWARD THAT TO, UM, TO RETAIL STRATEGIES.

UH, ITEM TWO, UPCOMING EVENTS.

UM, JUST MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR OCTOBER 11TH.

WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST EVER, EVER FULCHER FOLEYS EVENT FROM FOUR TO EIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL LIVE MUSIC VENDORS, FOOD TRUCKS, UM, ALL OF THAT.

AND THEN, UH, DECEMBER 6TH, WE, THE FIRST SATURDAY IN DECEMBER, WE WILL HAVE OUR, UH, CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING PROGRAM AS WELL.

SO,

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WE'LL, WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

UM, ITEM THREE, THE CIP PROJECT UPDATE.

SO YOU DO HAVE THIS, UH, ATTACHMENT IN HERE.

UM, WE WORKED WITH OUR PUBLIC WORK STAFF TO COME UP WITH, UM, SOME MORE DETAILS AND KIND OF A TEMPLATE THAT WE CAN UPDATE, UH, MONTH TO MONTH TO INCLUDE IN YOUR PACKET FROM HERE ON OUT.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A, A CHANCE TO REALLY REVIEW IT.

IT INCLUDES BOTH THE HARRIS STREET RECONSTRUCTION UPDATE.

YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, A TABLE BELOW WITH DETAILS ON THE EXPENDITURES.

AND THEN, UH, IT ALSO INCLUDES THE DOWN DOWNTOWN EAST SIDE DRAINAGE PROJECT SUMMARY.

UM, WE'RE OPEN TO FEEDBACK ON OUR END ON IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DETAILS YOU WANNA SEE INCLUDED.

UM, OR IF THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AFTER REVIEWING THIS, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET ALL THOSE TOGETHER AND SEND THEM TO THE PUBLIC WORK STAFF, UM, ONCE YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKET.

UM, AND, AND GET THAT OVER TO US.

YEAH, I'LL QUITE HAPPILY OFFER COMMENT BACK.

UM, THIS IS THE TWO, THE TWO PAGE, THE CIP PROJECT UPDATE JUNE MEETING, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? THE, THE HYPERLINK AND THE, UH, UH, IN THE PACKET.

IT'S THE NEXT PAGE.

PAGE, UM, 55 AND 56.

YEAH.

IS THAT THE, I JUST CLICKED ON THE HYPE LINK.

YEAH.

IS IT OPENING UP? SAME THING MM-HMM .

YEAH.

AS FAR AS, UH, A PRO PROJECT UPDATE, IT'S NOT JUST AROUND THE FINANCES AND A PROJECT UPDATE I WOULD NORMALLY SEE WOULD BE, UH, MILESTONES WHERE WE ARE WITH MILESTONES, WHETHER THE MILESTONES ARE ON SCHEDULE, BEHIND SCHEDULE DELAYED, IF THEY'RE DELAYED, WHAT IS THE RECOVERY PLAN? UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH REGARDS FINANCES THERE, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH.

THERE'S A WHOLE SLURRY OF STATEMENTS THAT YOU CAN MAKE AROUND THE, THE, UH, THE, THE BUDGET ITEMS THERE.

UNDERSTANDING, UM, CPI AND TCPI, THE CO, UH, THE TOTAL COST PERFORMANCE INDEX DOLLAR SPEND VERSUS PRODUCT, UM, EARNED VALUE.

YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT YOU, THAT WILL GIVE YOU INDICATION OF WHETHER THE PROJECT'S BEHIND SCHEDULE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

UM, YOU KNOW, JUST STANDARD PRO PRO PROJECT MANAGEMENT REPORTING.

UM, WHILST THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS A PROJECT REPORT, IT'S NEEDED A LOT OF WORK.

THEY'RE QUITE HAPPY TO, TO OFFER FURTHER, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS OFFLINE IF, IF THAT'S NECESSARY.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL SHARE THAT FEEDBACK AND, UM, MAYBE SET, WE COULD SET A MEETING TO DISCUSS, I APPRECIATE IT.

OR MAYBE IF YOU HAD A, SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS DEFINITELY YOUR BUSINESS ON REPORTING, UH, BUT MAYBE IF YOU HAD AN EXAMPLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW APPLICABLE THAT WOULD BE TO THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.

UM, IF YOU COULD.

YEAH, I MEAN, IT, IT, THE WORDING, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A PROJECT REPORT, ACTUAL DOC, YOU KNOW, THE, THE VERBIAGE, THERE'S VERY LITTLE VERBIAGE ON A PROJECT REPORT.

IT'S MORE OF LIKE A DASHBOARD KIND OF FRAMEWORK.

OKAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST I'VE USED, YOU KNOW, YOUR MILESTONES, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU'VE USED THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, JUST A CLEAR INDICATION, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GREEN, EVERYTHING'S ON SCHEDULE, DON'T EVEN NEED TO TOUCH IT WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP.

OKAY.

IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE, IF THERE'S RISK ASSOCIATED WITH MAKING A PARTICULAR DEADLINE, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOW IT AS YELLOW, IF WE'VE MISSED IT, IT'S RED, THAT TYPE OF THING.

VERY SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD INFORMATION'S EASY TO PASS OVER.

UNDERSTOOD.

BA BASED UPON, BASED UPON, I MEAN, I, I LIKE THE VERBIAGE.

I LIKE, I LIKE COMMENTS, I LIKE VERBIAGE.

SO IT'S, IT'S ALMOST AS IMPORTANT AS A 27% COMPLETE TYPE THING.

UM, IT, IT, UH, THIS IS PROBABLY THE SECOND PART I'M READING INTO THE DOWNTOWN EAST SIDE DRAINAGE AND IT, WE'RE MAKING AN ADJUSTMENT FOR SANITARY SEWER TO THE TEXT SHOP TEXTILE.

IS THAT GONNA CHANGE OUR BUDGETARY NUMBER? IT'S SOMETHING THAT COME UP, IT'S NECESSARY TO REVISE THE PLAN.

SO IT'S A PRETTY MINIMAL CHANGE.

UH, WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE, WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE, THE PROJECT TO T FOUR, THEIR APPROVAL OF OUR TIE IN,

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THEY INDICATED THAT, UH, WE HAD A CONFLICT BOX WITH OUR SANITARY IN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THEY INDICATED THAT THAT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THEM.

SO WE HAD TO JOG THE SANITARY LINE OVER SLIGHTLY.

SO, UM, TO GET IT OUT OF THEIR RIGHT OF WAY AND INTO OUR RIGHT OF WAY.

SO IT'S, IT SHOULD BE MINIMAL.

I DON'T, UM, WAS THIS, I DON'T RECALL IF THIS PROJECT WAS FUNDED AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

I THINK IT WAS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

STREET, UM, FOURTH STREET, DOWNTOWN EAST SIDE DRAINAGE.

YES.

IT WAS NOT.

OKAY.

SO THERE WILL BE SOME DOLLARS FROM THE CITY SIDE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO INTO THIS.

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT BID THIS OUT, SO WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE UM, OKAY.

EXACT COST ESTIMATE IS AT THIS TIME.

SO IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE UNDER OUR, UNDER OUR BUDGET AND THAT'D BE GREAT, BUT, GOTCHA.

COOL.

MM-HMM .

THANKS FOR THE COMMENT.

EXCELLENT REPORTING.

ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THE REPORT? NO, THANKS FOR INCLUDING THOSE.

OKAY.

CAN WE GO BACK REAL QUICKLY TOO? I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO MISSED WHAT YOU SAID UNDER EVENTS.

MM-HMM .

BUT, UH, WE BOTH MISSED IT.

YOU SAID SOMETHING ON OCTOBER 11TH, BUT YOUR VOICE WENT OUT WHEN, WHEN YOU SAID WHAT IT WAS.

SO NEITHER OF US KNOW.

IT'S CALLED FULCHER FOLLIES.

FIRST YEAR EVER.

IT'LL BE HERE AT FULCHER FOLLIES EVERY TIME.

UH, IT'LL, IT'S LIVE MUSIC.

UH, OKAY.

WE'LL HAVE, UH, CRAFT VENDORS AND FOOD VENDORS, UM, AND FUN DRINKS.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST ONE.

THIS IS THE FIRST ONE.

OKAY.

IN A LONG, LONG TIME.

.

YEAH.

IN MODERN TIMES.

ALRIGHT, WELL, NEITHER OF US GOT, WE, WE, WE BOTH, YOU COULD PROBABLY HEAR SOME STORIES ABOUT THE OLD ONES.

SO, AND SOME OF THEM PROBABLY ARE TRUE, UNFORTUNATELY.

ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.

UH, OKAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER WAS JUST DECEMBER 6TH FOR THE TREE LIGHTING.

OKAY.

YOU HEARD? OKAY.

GOOD.

, YOU SURE YOU CAN'T PUSH THAT TO THE FIFTH? IT'S MY BIRTHDAY.

IS IT? NO.

WELL LIGHT A ACCOUNT STILL .

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM FOUR.

UM, JUST AN UPDATE ON FULL CENTRAL'S AGREEMENT.

THIS WAS, UM, FULLY APPROVED BY OUR CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 17TH.

SO, UM, AGAIN, MARK YOUR CALENDARS BECAUSE JULY 25TH AT 4:00 PM IS THE GROUNDBREAKING SCHEDULED FOR, UH, FULCHER CENTRAL AT FOUR.

AT 4:00 PM YES MA'AM.

AND WE'LL SEND ANY MORE DETAILS.

THEY JUST SET THAT DATE, UM, THIS MORNING.

AND THEN ITEM FIVE I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE MEETING, OUR SMALL BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.

UM, THANK YOU TO JEN, UM, MS. HAMAN AND MS. DRESCHER FOR THE TIME THAT YOU'VE SPENT.

WE HAVE HAD TWO, UM, WORKSHOP SESSIONS, IF YOU WILL.

AND HAYDEN HAS, UH, DONE A GREAT JOB TAKING ALL THE NOTES, MAKING ALL THE EDITS, CREATING OUR FIRST DRAFT, UM, AND CONTINUOUSLY EDITING THAT, THAT LIVING DOCUMENT.

UM, WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO, UM, BRING SOMETHING TO YOU ALL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

UM, IN TERMS OF A DRAFT, OF COURSE, UH, ONCE WE FINISH PUTTING TOGETHER OUR, UH, TOUCHES TO IT, WE WILL HAVE IT REVIEWED BY THE LEGAL TEAM, UH, AS WELL.

AND SO THE, THE HOPE IS TO USE THOSE $50,000 THAT ARE BUDGETED TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF, UH, GRANT TO OUR SMALL BUSINESSES WITHIN WHAT STATUE ALLOWS US TO SUPPORT THEM IN, UH, IN THEIR PHYSICAL LOCATIONS, UM, ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO, WE'LL, WE'LL SHARE MORE DETAILS ON THAT WHEN IT'S READY.

BUT, UM, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S IN THE WORKS.

IT'S MOVING ALONG AS, UH, MR. KIRKENDAL MENTIONED.

NOW THAT WE'VE PASSED OUR BIG CITYWIDE INCENTIVE POLICY, WE CAN FOCUS A LITTLE MORE TIME ON OUR SMALL BUSINESS GRANT POLICY AND KEEP THAT MOVING FORWARD.

ITEM SIX, UH, LOCAL VOICES AND PHOTOGRAPHY CONTESTS.

SO I KNOW YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THE FRIDAY UPDATES ON LOCAL VOICES.

WE HAVE BEEN, UM, OUT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UM, ALL OVER 1463, THE WHOLE 1463 CORRIDOR.

UM, JUST GOING DOOR TO DOOR, INTRODUCING OURSELVES TO, TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, HEARING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ALL THE IMPACT OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND HOW BUSINESS IS GOING FOR THEM.

AND WE'VE ENCOURAGED THEM TO FILL OUT OUR LOCAL VOICES, UM, UH, I GUESS APPLICATION CAMPAIGN, UM, TO JUST DO OUR BEST TO PROMOTE AND HIGHLIGHT THE STORIES OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS.

AND I THINK WEEK AFTER WEEK, IT'S PROVEN TO BE ONE OF THE HIGHEST PERFORMING POSTS WITH THE MOST ENGAGEMENT.

SO WE KNOW THAT, UM, IT'S GETTING A LOT OF EYES ON IT.

UM, WE JUST REALLY DO WANNA

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HIGHLIGHT, UM, JUST THE LIFE AND BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS THAT THESE BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE POURED INTO THESE BUSINESSES, UM, AND HELP HIGHLIGHT THEIR STORY, WHAT THEY OFFER, WHETHER IT'S A SERVICE OR, YOU KNOW, UH, ANY KIND OF GOODS.

SO THAT'S BEEN DOING REALLY WELL AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH APPLICATIONS NOW FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR AND MORE.

UM, I THINK THAT THAT MARKETING CAMPAIGN AND, UM, THAT TIED INTO THAT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO GROW, UM, IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT.

YEAH, I REALLY LIKE THAT LOCAL VOICES CAMPAIGN, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.

SO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THAT UP AND DON'T LET THAT SLIP.

SO YEAH, WE, WE DEFINITELY WILL.

WE HEAR IT.

UM, AND I THINK IT, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT HAVING THAT FORM THAT'S FILLABLE AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH EVEN MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THEY FILL IT OUT HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL.

UM, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU STOP IN, I MEAN, AND THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF RUNNING THEIR BUSINESS, SO IT'S HARD, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A WHOLE SET OF QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, IT JUST CREATES A, A REALLY GREAT DIALOGUE AND RELATIONSHIP AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF FUN, UM, GOING OUT THERE.

ALSO, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT TIES IN WITH THIS, BUT I GOT AN EMAIL FROM AN INTERN AT THE CITY AND ASKING ME JUST ABOUT MY BUSINESS, WHEN DID WE MOVE HERE? A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY.

IS THAT THE CITY DOING THAT OR IS THAT THE EDC DOING IT? UM, YEAH, SO THE, THE EDC IS UPDATING OUR DATABASE OF BUSINESSES, AND SO, UM, THE INTERN IS A CITY INTERN WHO'S HELPING THE EDC DEPARTMENT, UM, KIND OF DO SOME OF THE LEGWORK ON THAT.

UM, SHE'S PRETTY CLOSE TO FINISHING, SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT READY, WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU ALL.

BUT IT'S JUST A, A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF EVERY BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY, UM, HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN OPEN, THE CONTACT FOR IT, ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF.

SO I'M GLAD, I'M GLAD SHE REACHED OUT.

GOOD.

IF SHE HASN'T REACHED OUT TO MY OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS, LET ME KNOW.

BY, WE MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON LIST.

I, I DID RESPOND TO THAT EMAIL SO IT DIDN'T GET PUSHED DOWN THE LIST.

AND HOW DID YOU IDENTIFY THOSE? IS THAT SOME SORT OF ROSTER YOU'RE LOOKING AT? UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT, UM, PLACES TO, TO GET THROUGH IT.

WE HAD A KIND OF A WORKING, UM, SPREADSHEET.

SO YES, JUST GOING DOWN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE CDOS THAT WE'VE CMOS THAT WE'VE ISSUED IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO.

WE GET THOSE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND, UM, YEAH, JUST IT'S KIND OF A ALL AROUND EFFORT.

SO JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHAT, HOW, WHAT'S THE NUMBER? OH, I DUNNO YET.

OH, I'D HAVE TO LOOK DEBORAH.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK.

JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH, I DON'T WANNA MAKE SOMETHING.

HOW MANY BUSINESSES WE WERE COUNTING MM-HMM .

YEAH.

I'LL BE CURIOUS TO KNOW.

WE'LL REPORT BACK.

OKAY.

UH, AND THEN ALONG THE, SORRY.

JUST, UH, AND WHEN YOU COLLECT THOSE TOGETHER, SO YOU'LL NOT ONLY HAVE THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO MAYBE KIND OF A BREAKDOWN BY SECTOR THAT THEY MAY BE INVOLVED IN, WHETHER THAT MAY BE FOOD SERVICE OR, YES, THAT'S THE PLAN.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

THE, THE KIND OF BUSINESS, THE TYPE OF BUSINESS SO THAT WE CAN SEE HOW, WHAT THE BREAKDOWN IS.

ANYTHING ELSE? UM, ON THAT SAME ITEM, I HAD THE PHOTOGRAPHY CONTEST SO THAT, UM, IT'S OFFICIALLY CLOSED.

SO OUR WINNERS FOR THIS YEAR WILL BE ANNOUNCED ON JULY 15TH AT THAT COUNCIL MEETING.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT SUBMISSIONS THIS YEAR.

YEAH.

IT, IT AMAZES ME THE PHOTOS THAT COME FROM RE TEXAS.

IT REALLY DOES.

MM-HMM .

BUT I DID SEE ALSO THERE WAS, I THINK A FORT BEND PHOTOGRAPHY CONTEST.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD ENCOURAGE OUR CONTESTANTS TO, TO ENTER YEAH.

ENTER IN THE OTHER ONE.

SO MAYBE WE CAN GET FULCHER PUBLICIZED ON A COUNTYWIDE BASIS.

WE'LL LOOK UP THAT INFORMATION, REFER THEM OVER.

I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS WITH THE CHAMBER OR SOMEONE ELSE, BUT I'LL LOOK FOR IT TOO.

PASS THAT ALONG.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

UH, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS ON YOUR RADAR.

UM, THE TML ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE WILL BE NOVEMBER 13TH AND 14TH IN BASTROP.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE ATTENDED IN THE PAST AND FOUND IT, UM, VERY EDUCATIONAL AND VERY WORTHWHILE.

UH, LAST YEAR.

IT FILLED UP THE SECOND IT OPENED.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU ALL IS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, LET US KNOW SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, UH, OUR HAND READY TO REGISTER YOU THE SECOND THAT OPENS.

OKAY.

SO LEE WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND.

MARK WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND DEBORAH.

YEAH.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU GO, MR. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN, IT'S WELL WORTH IT.

I GET AN EMAIL.

YES, SURE.

YES MA'AM.

IT BROADENS YOUR EYES TO

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YEAH.

THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE DO ACROSS AND THEY HOLD IT AT A GREAT LOCATION, .

IT IS, IT IS.

GREAT.

THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

YEAH.

AND THAT WILL MENTION THAT WE WILL ALSO HAVE, UM, USUALLY CHARLIE, UH, ATTENDS THERE, OUR LEGAL COUNSEL.

SO WE WILL SEE HIM , I'M SURE.

YES, YES.

HE'S USUALLY A PRESENTER AND HE MAKES GREAT PRESENTATION.

UM, YEAH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL JOT ALL HIS NAMES DOWN AND WE'RE, WE'LL DO OUR VERY, VERY BEST TO GET YOU REGISTERED.

UM, WE'LL UPDATE PRETTY MUCH AS SOON AS IT OPENS WE'LL KNOW.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, IF THERE IS ANY OTHER TRAININGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO GO TO, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GET YOU REGISTERED.

I DID, UM, PUT ONE IN A A SOMETHING THAT I HAD SENT Y'ALL UNRELATED AT THE END OF IT.

THERE IS A, THERE T-E-D-C-I THINK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SALES TAX WORKSHOP YES.

IN HOUSTON IN NOVEMBER.

YES.

MM-HMM.

AND I'LL SAY IT'S NOT LISTED ON THERE YET.

THE, THE DATES, THEY ALSO OFFER AN ONLINE ONE.

UM, IT'S USUALLY WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IT EVERY TWO YEARS ANYWAYS.

UM, BUT I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND FOR ALL OF Y'ALL, EVEN IF YOU CAN'T ATTEND THE ONE IN HOUSTON, TO DO THE ONLINE, IT'S AT YOUR OWN PACE OVER THE COURSE OF LIKE TWO WEEKS.

I THINK YOU CAN TAKE THE CLASSES AS YOU WANT AND IT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL TO GET A, A BETTER IDEA OF THE, OF THE BOARD STRUCTURE.

YEAH.

AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SO CLOSE TO HOME.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THOUGHT, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT MADE ME NOTICE IT.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL AND, AND SHARE THAT DATE AS WELL, SO YOU CAN ALL CHECK YOUR CALENDARS AND THEN DECIDE IF YOU'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE ONLINE OR IN PERSON.

IT'S JUST A ONE DAY MM-HMM .

UM, ALL DAY WORKSHOP, SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE AN OVERNIGHT STAY OR ANYTHING.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

REPORT.

NOW HAYDEN,

[Recurring Items - B]

ITEM FOUR B IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO IS THIS, IS THIS WHERE WE'RE GONNA DO THE, UM, THE LIAISON AS WELL? NO.

NO.

WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW? YOU'RE NOT HAVING ONE.

YEAH, SO THE STRUCTURE FOR THE LIAISON, WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IT IS GONNA LOOK DIFFERENT THAN IT HAS IN THE PAST.

MM-HMM .

SO MR. PATTERSON WAS A SITTING BOARD MEMBER AND ACTING LIAISON.

UM, I THINK EVEN IN CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, THE STRUCTURE OF HOW WE USED TO DO IT WAS VERY BACKWARDS.

THE ROLE OF THE LIAISON IS SUPPOSED TO BE TO GATHER THE INFORMATION HERE AND REPORT IT TO COUNCIL, UM, INSTEAD OF HOW WE USED TO DO IT.

IT WAS ALWAYS VERY UNUSUAL, BUT IT WAS JUST HOW IT WAS DONE.

UM, SO WE'LL WORK TO GET MORE, UH, CLARIFICATION ON THE ROLES FOR BOTH PARTIES.

SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING IS IF THERE IS SOMETHING COMING DOWN THE WAY, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE PUT ON AS AN AGENDA ITEM, CORRECT? YES.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S LIKELY NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IT DID.

TRUE.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT SOMETHING UNLESS IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, UM, ANELLE AND THE HEAD WILL TELL US OR INFORM THE BOARD IF IT NEEDS TO GO ON FUTURE MEETINGS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING COMING DOWN THE WAY.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS HERE IS JUST IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT USUALLY IF WE'VE DISCUSSED IT DURING THE MEETING AND ELLEN AND HAYDEN, THEY KNOW IT NEEDS TO BE A FUTURE, ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM NEXT MONTH.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'RE WONDERING ABOUT OR THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS, BRING IT UP HERE AND EVEN AFTER THE MEETING, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ANELLE AND LET HER KNOW THAT AND WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO ADD FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO THE, THE SMALL BUSINESS INCENTIVE PROGRAM? WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE? SURE.

TO ADD THAT, WOULD IT, IS IT APPROPRIATE, LIKE WILL IT BE TOGETHER BY THEN? UM, WE CAN GET, I MEAN I CAN PUT IT ON THE LIST AND THEN DURING OUR NEXT MEETING WE CAN DECIDE IF WE WANNA INCLUDE IT ACTUALLY AS AN AGENDA ITEM OR NOT.

OKAY.

COOL.

I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS SINCE THE BOND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, PARK AND REC'S EFFECT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF SHORE.

RIGHT.

UM, IF THEY HAVE ANY IDEAS ON HOW WE CAN PROMOTE THEM OR, I MEAN, EVENTUALLY IT'S GONNA BECOME A SOURCE OF, OF A DRAW TO, TO FULCHER AND SO BOTH FROM A RECREATION POINT OF VIEW, BUT ALSO FROM AN ECONOMIC POINT OF VIEW.

SO, UM, KIND OF BRIDGE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS YEAH.

JUST A BRIDGE WITH THE FUNDS AND, AND THE USAGE, HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THAT EFFORT.

TRUE.

YEAH.

WE CAN, UM, TALK TO OUR PARKS AND BOARD, UH, LIAISON AND GO FROM THERE.

ALRIGHT.

[02:10:01]

IN TERMS OF, UM, REFRESHING THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, DO WE HAVE A CLEAR PATH FORWARD ON HOW WE'RE GONNA TACKLE THAT YET? I THINK WE DECIDED TO.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN DISCUSS HERE, ANDREW.

RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

THE DECISION WAS NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REFRESH, BUT I CAN SHARE MORE DETAILS.

OH, I THOUGHT THAT WE PUT SOME DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT WAS CARRYING OVER FROM OUR EARLIER CONVERSATIONS.

MM-HMM .

BUT IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN DEBRIEF WITH ANELLE AND HAYDEN AND THEN AFTER Y'ALL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, IF YOU THINK IT'S WORTHY OF A, OF A BOARD PANEL DISCUSSION, WE CAN BRING IT BACK, BRING IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

OKAY.

UH,

[Recurring Items - C]

FOUR C OR ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ANYONE HAVE ANY GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS? ANYTHING GOING ON? MM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TODAY.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING.

4TH OF JULY.

UM, YES.

4TH OF JULY IS FRIDAY, SO 4TH OF JULY, FRIDAY.

AND THEN I THINK SATURDAY IS THE CROSS CREEK FIREWORKS SHOW.

UM, PROTECT YOUR PETS.

THERE'S NO FIREWORKS ALLOWED IN THE CITY OF SHORE.

.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ANNOUNCEMENT.

AND I SEE, UH, MR. Z CHANG SHAKING HIS HEAD YES.

NO FIREWORKS, NONE.

YEAH.

AND I WILL SEE YOU ALL PROBABLY AGAIN IN OCTOBER.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

PREEMPTIVE.

WE WILL MISS YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE DOT EXPECT AN ANNOUNCEMENT AT SOME POINT.

YEAH.

YES.

I WILL SHARE , I'LL BRING A, AN IPAD OR SOMETHING AND SEND NOTE.

.

ARE YOU GONNA SEND US MAYBE AN EMAIL THAT AT TELLS US, SHOULD WE JUST COMMUNICATE WITH HAYDEN OR IS KELSEY GONNA BE INVOLVED OR HOW THAT WILL WORK? IF YOU CAN JUST LET US KNOW WHAT'S THE BEST FOR US.

YES, WE WILL.

YEAH, PERFECT.

KELSEY WILL BE OVERSEEING, UM, THE, THE DEPARTMENT IN MY ABSENCE.

AND OF COURSE HAYDEN IS HERE.

UM, JUST, I, I THINK PROBABLY QUICKEST, EASIEST, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, EMAIL CONTACT HAYDEN.

HE'LL WORK WITH KELSEY TO GET BACK TO YOU ALL ON WHATEVER MATTERS.

AND THEN, UM, THEY'LL WORK TOGETHER TO KEEP THE MEETINGS MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY.

EXCELLENT.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS.

WE HOPE ALL GOES WELL.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN.

YOU HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED TO ADJOURN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

A ALL OPPOSED, WERE ADJOURNED AT 8:13 PM THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.