* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] IT [Call to Order] IS MONDAY, JUNE 9TH, 2025 AT 6:30 PM I NOW CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER OF THE SHORE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. ANELLE, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS COMMENTS? UH, NO, SIR. WE [Business - A] DO NOT. OKAY. ITEM THREE A CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON MINUTES OF THE CORPORATION FOR THE APRIL 14TH, 2025 MEETING. UH, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ON THE AGENDA IT SAYS APRIL 14TH. UH, IT SHOULD SAY MAY 12TH. THAT'S JUST A TYPO ON THE AGENDA ITEM. THE MINUTES THEMSELVES REFLECT THEIR RIGHT DATE. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MAY 12TH MEETING. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR A. AYE, AYE. MOTION PASSES ITEM [Business - B] THREE B, CONSIDERATION ACTION ON FINANCIALS AND PAYABLES FOR THE CORPORATION FOR THE PERIOD ENDING APRIL 30TH, 2025. OKAY. FOR THIS MEETING, WE DON'T HAVE THE SALES TAX REPORT READY FOR YOU, SO WE WILL SHARE THAT AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING FOR THIS MONTH AND THE NEXT. OKAY, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE PAYABLE OF $10,012 AND 69 CENTS. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. AND WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. ITEM THREE [Business - C] C, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE CDC RESOLUTION 2025 DASH ZERO FOUR A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF RE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND RE CENTRAL LLC. ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING BOARD. UM, AS REQUESTED, AT OUR LAST MONTH'S MEETING, UM, FOLLOWING DISCUSSION, WE HAVE INCLUDED THE RESOLUTION, UM, TO APPROVE THE PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU AND SHORE CENTRAL. SO AT THIS TIME, UM, IF YOU WOULD ALL LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, THIS IS PLANNED TO GO TO COUNCIL, UM, AT THE NEXT TUESDAY'S MEETING ON JUNE 17TH. B BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THEIR PORTION, WHICH JUST MIRRORS THE SAME AMOUNT OF SUPPORT AS YOURS DOES JUST FOR THE DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT ARE ALLOWABLE UNDER STATUTE FOR B BOARD. OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE PROCESS B BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED NOW IS FOR A BOARD TO DISCUSS AND OR APPROVE IF WE SEE APPROPRIATE AND THEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S RIGHT. YES. YEP. WHERE WOULD WE LIKE TO START THE DISCUSSION? AND AS A REMINDER, THE ONLY REASON WE COULDN'T DO THIS LAST TIME IS WE JUST WEREN'T PREPARED WITH THE RESOLUTION. YOU HEARD IT FIRST AND THEN DIRECTED FOR US TO PREPARE IT AND BRING IT BACK. UM, IT JUST HAPPENED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE IT READY FOR BE BOARD THE FOLLOWING WEEK. SO THEY WERE ABLE TO DISCUSS, DECIDE, AND APPROVE ALL IN THE SAME MEETING LAST MONTH. YEP. YEAH, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE, UM, QUESTIONS OR ISSUES THAT I HAD, WE BASICALLY WENT OVER IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION A MONTH AT THE END OF LAST MONTH. IT WASN'T A WHOLE MONTH AGO, IT WAS ONLY LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2025 DASH OH FOUR APPROVING A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF SHORE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND SHORE CENTRAL LLC AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO WALK THROUGH THE AGREEMENT. UM, SO JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. BE, UH, THE, THIS IS GONNA BE ROUGHLY A 10 YEAR AGREEMENT, UM, WITH AN EX THAT DOESN'T START BY THE, UM, SO THIS IS 2025. THE TIMING DOESN'T START UNTIL 2030, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT, THAT'S RIGHT. AND IT'S GONNA GO FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD. SO BETWEEN NOW AND 2030, THAT WILL GIVE THE DEVELOPER TIME TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, GET IN TENANTS, AND START BRINGING IN INCOME, UH, TO THE CITY OF FULCHER SO THAT THE EXPIRATION DATE, UH, WILL BE JUNE 2ND, 2039. THAT WILL BE THE LATEST EXPIRATION DATE. IT COULD TERMINATE SOONER. UH, IF FOR EXAMPLE, [00:05:01] THEY, UH, OR WE REIMBURSE, UM, THE COMPANY, UH, $1 MILLION. THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. AND AT THAT POINT THAT IT WOULD, UH, TERMINATE AS WELL, OR IF, UH, ARTICLE SEVEN OR IF ANY OTHER REASON WERE TO TERMINATE. BUT I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN ONES IS WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY, OR YEAH. WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY THEM BACK ANY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS. AND THIS, THE AGREEMENT ENDS ON JUNE 2ND, 2039. YES. AND WE ONLY PAY BACK HALF OF WHAT WE RECEIVE FROM THEM IN SALES TAXES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE WILL ALWAYS BE NET POSITIVE ON, UH, TAX COLLECTIONS, SALES TAX COLLECTIONS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE LAND THAT IS GENERATING ZERO SALES TAX. YES. AND THE, THE, THE REASON FOR THIS IS TO ENCOURAGE A ADULT DEVELOPER TO, UH, DEVELOP THE LAND TO BRING IN SALES TAX. WE WILL, WE ARE, WE WILL NEVER PAY MONEY TO THEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE. THEY ARE GENERATING IT AND WE PAY THEM BACK. UM, THE OTHER INCENTIVE, UH, THIS WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO BRING IN TENANTS WHO WOULD GENERATE AS MUCH SALES TAX AS POSSIBLE. EXACTLY, YES. RIGHT. 'CAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THEY WOULD COLLECT MORE. THEY, THEY, THE, THEY WOULDN'T COLLECT, THEY WOULD REACH UP THAT MILLION, BUT THEY WOULD GET TO THE MILLION FASTER. YES. RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO, YOU KNOW, IF, THE WHOLE REASON I'M DOING THIS IS SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE START CHALLENGING ME AND START SAYING, HEY, WHY ARE WE DOING, WHY ARE WE GIVING THIS MONEY? RIGHT? IT IS, IT IS TO LIMIT THE COMPLAINTS ON LOW END SALES TAX GENERATORS. AND WHAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING ARE HIGH-END SALES TAX GENERATORS. YES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS AGREEMENT. YES. WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND. WELL, YOU UNDER SEE, YOU UNDERSTAND , YOU UNDERSTAND? YEAH. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT, UM, THINGS THAT ARE WHAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, THAT CURRENTLY IT'S GENERATING NO SALES TAX, WE'RE STILL COLLECTING HALF OF THE SALES TAX FROM THAT SITE. SPECIFICALLY HALF GOES TO THEM, IT MOTIVATES TO BRING GOOD, UM, SALES TAX PRODUCING, UH, TENANTS TO THAT AREA TO GET THEM HERE QUICKLY. UM, BECAUSE IF THAT TERM EXPIRES AND THERE AREN'T TENANTS THERE GENERATING SALES TAX, THAT'S MONEY. THEY DON'T GET US. WELL, BUT THEY ONLY GET, IT'S A WIN-WIN. THEY ONLY GET HALF OF WHAT WE WOULD RECEIVE, NOT HALF OF ALL OF THE SALES TAX. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH THAT, BRIAN. THANK YOU. I AM DOING THIS FOR ME, WELL, AND, AND, AND FOR THE PUBLIC. SO I, I APPRECIATE IT. I'M DOING THIS TO PROTECT ME FROM THE PUBLIC THAT IS AND, AND ALL OF US. BUT I MEAN, I WANT US TO ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE THAT WE'RE JUST NOT RANDOMLY GIVING OUT MONEY TO PEOPLE. UM, LET'S SEE. YEAH, OVERALL, IT'S UH, UP TO $35 MILLION INVESTMENT ON THEIR PART FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEY ARE ADDING AN AMENITIES LIKE THE POND AND THE WALKING TRAIL AND UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND THERE'S A PIECE OF THIS PROJECT THAT IS HELPING THE CITY WITH A WATER PLANT. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES. THAT IS A SEPARATE, UM, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY. YEAH. THAT'S NOT THE AGREEMENT'S, NOT WITH US, BUT THE PLAN IS WITH THE CITY AND WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT FULCHER IN TOTAL. YES. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? DID ANYONE ELSE WANT TO POINT OUT ANYTHING IS FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS FROM LAST MONTH? NO. OKAY. SO WE'VE HAD A MOTION. IT HAS BEEN SECONDED. WE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE, DO I NEED TO GIVE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE RE 2025 DASH OH FOUR RESOLUTION 2025 DASH OH FOUR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UH, LET'S SEE. [Business - D] ITEM 3D, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON SUPPORT OF FISCAL YEAR 26 CIP PROJECTS. WELCOME. ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT CLIFF BROHARD, OUR INTERIM, UM, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR UP HERE THAT, UM, WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU ALL SOME OPTIONS FOR, UM, SUPPORTING CIP [00:10:01] PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. UM, NOW IS YOUR TIME TO ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, CHI, THIS OPPORTUNITY. DO YOU WANT ME TO TURN THIS ON OR IS IT YEAH. OKAY. WE DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH THREE PROJECTS FOR Y'ALL THIS EVENING. PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER PARTIALLY IN ARE IN CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY, OR, UM, ARE VERY CLOSE TO BEING READY FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND, UH, THAT DOESN'T WORK. OKAY, LET'S TRY THAT. OKAY. THE FIRST IS THE HA HARRIS STREET SANITARY SEWER. Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT. Y'ALL ARE CURRENTLY FUNDING THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD. THAT PROJECT, UM, IS ONGOING, UH, AS PART OF THAT RECONSTRUCTION. AND BECAUSE OF THE, THE, UM, WATER WASTEWATER, UM, STUDY THAT WE JUST COMPLETED BACK IN 2024 INTO 25, UM, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT WITH ANTICIPATED COMMERCIAL GROWTH UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR THROUGH DOWNTOWN ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN AND ACTUALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, UH, THAT LINE NEEDED TO BE INCREASED. SO WE DID A CHANGE ORDER INTO THE HARRIS STREET, UH, ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT TO INCREASE THAT LINE SIZE TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE GROWTH. I I'M GONNA READ KIND OF THE PROJECT SCOPE AND SOME OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS. Y'ALL PLEASE STOP ME IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND I CAN PAUSE AT THE END OF EACH ONE. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM. BUT THIS PROJECT INCLUDES THE UPSIZING OF A SANITARY GRAVITY LINE ON HARRIS STREET FROM FIFTH STREET TO SECOND STREET TO A 10 INCH, AND FROM SECOND STREET TO FIRST STREET TO A 12 INCH, KEEPING THE EXISTING FLOW LINES AND TYING INTO THE EXISTING MANHOLES AS IDENTIFIED IN THE WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN. I'M SORRY, JUST THE MASTER PLAN. WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, NOT WATER. THIS IS SANITARY . SO ECONOMIC BENEFIT FOR THIS IS THIS IMPROVED SANITARY LINE PROVIDES ECONOMIC VALUE TO THE CITY BY ALLOWING ROOM FOR POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL GROWTH WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN. RE UH, WITH ADDITIONAL GROWTH COMES THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SANITARY SEWER CAPACITY. I WILL TELL Y'ALL THAT, UH, EVERYTHING IN DOWNTOWN FLOWS TO THE HARRIS STREET LINE. THE HARRIS STREET LINE GOES, UH, WEST TO WALLACE STREET AS IT HITS FIRST STREET AND THEN SOUTH INTO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. SO EVERYTHING FROM THE EAST SIDE TO THE WEST SIDE ALL DRAINS TO THIS LINE, AND IT IS THE ONE CONNECTION INTO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. SO EXPANDING IT GIVES US MUCH MORE CAPACITY FOR FUTURE GROWTH IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO, SO THIS IS ONLY TAKING A, GOING DOWN HARRIS STREET, IF I RECALL. WE IDENTIFIED IF IT'LL STOP THE FEEDBACK FROM THE, THERE WE GO. SORRY. . THEY LITTLE I WAS GONNA SAY, YEAH, THE VOLUMES A LITTLE LOUD. THE GAME IS A LITTLE HIGH. SO IF I RECALL, WE REALIZED THAT SOME OF THE PIPES DID NOT MATCH TO WHAT WERE ON THE PLANS WHEN WE DUG UP HARRIS STREET. UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS WHILE WE HAVE THIS EXPOSED, ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO DO ANY SCOPING OF THE ANCILLARY LINES TO SEE IF WE, IF THERE ARE ANY NECESSARY REPAIRS THAT WE CAN DO WHILE THESE, THIS IS ALL EXPOSED SO THAT WE HAD, CAN MAKE SURE THAT THIS CAPITAL PROJECT IS FULL SCOPE AND DOESN'T HAVE ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDERS THAT COME IN? YEAH, SO WE ARE, WE ARE ACTUALLY CHANGING THE WHOLE ENTIRE SANITARY LINE FROM FIFTH STREET DOWN TO FIRST STREET. OKAY. AND THEN OVER, SO THE WHOLE HARRIS STREET LINE WILL BE REPLACED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, UH, AS WE EXPAND INTO SOME OF THE WEST SIDE PROJECTS, OTHER WEST SIDE PROJECTS, WALL STREET EXPANSION, WEST SIDE STREET REDEVELOPMENT, AND THEN MOVE OVER INTO THE EAST SIDE. WE'RE GOING TO BE EVALUATING THOSE LINES AT THAT TIME. UM, ONE OF THE, ONE FUTURE PROJECT WE HAVE IS THE POSSIBLE DECOMMISSIONING OF THE HARRIS STREET LIFT STATION, AND THAT WILL LEAD TO A GRAVITY LINE THAT COMES SOUTH AND THEN OVER DOWN FIRST STREET. AND SO ALL OF THOSE LINES COULD POTENTIALLY BE REPLACED AS PART OF THAT AS WELL. SO WE'VE GOT YES, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT THE LINES AS WE REDEVELOP THOSE AND MAKING SURE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THIS ONE POPPED UP SO SUDDENLY THAT WE OKAY. MAKE SURE THAT WE, SO WE'LL EXPECT TO SEE FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR THOSE LINES. BUT THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR HARRIS STREET AT SOME, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THERE'LL BE A WALL STREET AND A WALL STREET, SORRY. WALL STREET IS UNDER DESIGN NOW. OKAY. THROUGH, UH, A, [00:15:01] AN ILA WITH FORT BEND COUNTY. AND SO WE ARE DOING SOME IMPROVED SANITARY LINES THERE. UM, WE, WE ARE CURRENTLY EXPLORING OR ARE WORKING WITH A FIRM TO START DESIGN ON THE WEST SIDE STREETS. WE WILL LOOK AT, UH, SANITARY LINES IN THAT PROJECT AS WELL, AND WATER LINES. WE'VE LEARNED A LOT ON HARRIS STREET. SO, UM, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING, TAKING THOSE LESSONS LEARNED AND WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING THOSE IN THE FUTURE PROJECTS SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THESE THINGS. THE OTHER, UM, DEVELOPMENT, THE, THE PROPERTY THAT GOT ANNEXED INTO THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, UM, FIVE YEARS AGO, UM, WHICH I THINK WAS LOU WATERS. IT'S THE STUFF BETWEEN POLO RANCH AND DOWNTOWN JUNCTION. YEAH. I FORGOT THE NAME OF IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, SO THAT DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS THAT GONNA TIE INTO THIS, UH, HARRIS STREET LINE ALSO. AND IS IT BIG ENOUGH TO TAKE THAT ON? IF, IF THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS? YEAH, IT WILL, IT WON'T TIE INTO DOWNTOWN. IT IS PLANNED TO GO THROUGH THE, THE POLO SYSTEM DOWN TO THE POLO RANCH LIFT STATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE NEAR 10 93, WHICH THEN IS FORCE MAIN OVER TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE SECOND SHEET THAT HAS THE, THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET ON IT, THIS, THIS IS THE ASK FOR FY 2025. UH, WE'VE, WE'VE APPROVED THIS CHANGE ORDER. WE ARE WORKING ON PUTTING THIS LINE IN AND AS WE, AS WE GO DOWN, UH, HARRIS STREET WITH THAT IMPROVEMENT, SO THE TOTAL COST OF THAT PROJECT IS $478,021. AND SO CONSTRUCTION STARTED IT ON IT ON, UH, IN MARCH OF 2025. AND IT ESTIMATED COMPLETION IS WITH THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT, WHICH IS AT THE TIME OF THIS PRINTING NOVEMBER, 2025. SO, UM, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE. SO IT'S MORE OF A REIMBURSEMENT THAN A FUTURE PROJECT, BUT IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO IT IS DEFINITELY SHOVEL READY. AND , WE, WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY, ANY DELAYS IN DESIGN. UM, MOVING ON, THE NEXT ONE IS THE PECAN KNOLL WELLS, UH, AND IMPROVEMENTS. SO, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, WELL YIELD AT THE PECAN NO WATER PLANT WILL REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL ONSITE AND TWO OFFSITE WELLS TO PRO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SUPPLY. THE FOLLOWING PROJECT INCLUDES COST FOR THE NEW, WELL, ELECTRICAL AND EQUIPMENT AND PIPING AND APARTMENTS. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF A FOURTH BOOSTER PUMP TO COMPLETE THE TOTAL FIRM PUMPING CAPACITY OF 5.75 MGD MILLION. THAT'S MILLION GALLONS A DAY. UH, THE ADDITION OF NEW WELLS INCREASES THE OVERALL, THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT IS THE ADDITIONAL OF, OF NEW WELLS INCREASES THE OVERALL WATER CAPACITY OF THE CITY SYSTEM SUPPORTING CURRENT AND FUTURE DEMAND. THIS EXPANDED CAPACITY IS ESSENTIAL FOR ACCOMMODATING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN FUL. BY ENSURING RELIABLE WATER AVAILABILITY, THE CITY BECOMES MORE ATTRACTIVE TO PROSPECTIVE BUSINESSES, ULTIMATELY ENCOURAGING ECONOMIC GROWTH AND INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO I'LL KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THIS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, THE PROPOSED PROJECT BUDGET, WE ARE CURRENTLY, IT'S, IT'S ONE PROJECT PUT INTO TWO PHASES. UH, THE PECAN NOLLS, WELL PECAN NOLL WELLS AND IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDES ONE ON SITE ADDITIONAL SHALLOW WELL AT THE EXISTING WATER PLANT, AND THEN TWO OFFSITE WELLS AT A, AT A SITE THAT'S SOUTH, NEAR, UH, KIND OF NEAR THE TERMINUS OF, OF, UH, DALE WEBB AT THE VERY SOUTHERN END, RIGHT UP AGAINST BESSIE'S CREEK. UH, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT PRO, UH, PROJECT BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE IN FY 20 25, 1 $0.8 MILLION ROUGHLY. THAT IS FOR THE TWO DESIGNS. WE'VE GOT AFFIRM DESIGNING THE ONSITE WELL AND AFFIRM DESIGNING THE OFFSITE WELLS. WE ANTICIPATE THE ONSITE WELL TO BE A 2026 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. AND THAT IS THE $4.059 MILLION IN 2026. AND THEN THE OFFSITE WELLS WILL BE AND, UH, 2027. AND THAT'S A $16 MILLION PROJECT. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS THE FUNDING FOR FY 2026 AT 4 MILLION, UH, 59,000 FOR THAT PROJECT. WE STARTED DESIGN FOR THIS IN FEBRUARY, 2025. WE ESTIMATE A BID START [00:20:01] IN OCTOBER OF 2025 AND AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION START IN JANUARY OF 26 AND AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION IN JANUARY OF 27. SO I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT ONE. WAS THIS IN THE WASTEWATER PLAN MASTER PLAN? IT WAS IN THE WATER MASTER PLAN, YES. YEAH, I'M SORRY. IT'S IN THE WATER MASTER PLAN. YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TOGETHER WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, BUT IT'S OKAY. YEAH. AND THE, THE 4 MILLION PLUS THE 1.8 MILLION, YADA, YADA, YADA, YOU SAID THAT WAS ONE ON ONSITE. WELL, IS THERE ANY ASSOCIATED STORAGE TANKS OR PUMPS OR ANYTHING? OR DO YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL OF THAT? YOU JUST NEED THIS EXTRA WATER TO COME OUT? SO THE, THE ORIGINAL ANTICIPATION WAS, AND HOPE WAS THAT THE, THE ONE DEEP ONSITE WELL WOULD GIVE US THE CAPACITY THAT WE NEEDED. SO WE DESIGNED THE PLANT TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, THAT CAPACITY. THERE ARE FUTURE PLANS TO ADD ANOTHER 1.5 MILLION GALLON STORE GROUND STORAGE TANK AT THE, BUT THAT'S TO ACCOMMODATE ALSO GROUND, UH, SURFACE WATER AND THE WHOLE BLENDING OF THE BLENDING OF THE WATER. AND SO WE'LL HAVE SURFACE WATER. WE'LL HAVE GROUND WATER, AND WE WILL HAVE UP TO 3 MILLION GALLONS OF GROUND STORAGE, BUT THAT'S OUT INTO THE FUTURE. OKAY. SO THIS 4 MILLION IS JUST A, WELL, IT'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S JUST A WELL, YES MA'AM. AND BUT THE 16 MILLION FOR THE OTHER TWO OFFSITE WELLS, I'M THINKING THAT PROBABLY HAS, UH, STORAGE OR PUMPS OR WHATEVER ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BECAUSE IF ONE WELL COSTS YOU 4 MILLION, TWO WELLS SHOULDN'T COST YOU 8 MILLION EACH. RIGHT. YEAH. SO THE ONE IN 26 IS A SHALLOW WELL, AND IT DOES INCLUDE, UM, SOME OTHER ONSITE IMPROVEMENTS, SOME ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS, SOME, UH, WE VALUE ENGINEERED A BOOSTER PUMP OUT OF THE PROJECT. UH, BACK WHEN WE STARTED THE, THE, UH, THE LARGE WELL PROJECT, THE LARGE PLANT PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO ADD THOSE THINGS BACK IN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. SO WE'LL GET A, WE'LL GET ANOTHER BOOSTER PUMP, WE'LL GET A, A SHALLOW WELL IN THIS CASE. AND THEN ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED, UM, CHEMICAL FEED REQUIREMENTS AND ELECTRICAL UPGRADES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE, UM, WHENEVER WE GET THE SHALLOW WELL NORTH FORT BEND WATER AUTHORITY AND ALL THAT JAZZ. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN IN 27 IT'S A SHALLOW WELL AND A DEEP WELL. SO THERE WILL BE SOME PRICE DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN ONE WELL WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE OTHER. OKAY. UM, AND, AND WHEN ARE Y'ALL GOING, WHEN, WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE THE DESIGN FINISHED AT, AT ONE TIME? I, AND THIS WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, BUT AT ONE TIME I THOUGHT YOU MENTIONED YOU THOUGHT THE DESIGN WOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF MAY AND BE READY TO GO OUT AND ASK FOR PROPOSALS AT THAT TIME. FOR THE, UM, FOR ALL OF THIS, THE, THE CURRENT ON ONSITE. WELL, UH, SO WE ARE ESTIMATING A BID START IN OCTOBER. OKAY, GO AHEAD. OKAY. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. , I'M SO SORRY. YOU WERE TALKING. SORRY. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DATES ON WHEN THE BID PACKAGES WOULD BE PUT OUT FOR BIDDING. YEAH, SO ESTIMATED BID START IS OCTOBER, 2025. LET'S SEE. IT'S HARD WORKING BACKWARDS IN MONTHS, BUT WE'LL SEE. SO JULY, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING, TIFFANY? JULY FOUR. SO DESIGN WOULD BE DONE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, BEFORE OCTOBER? A LITTLE BIT BEFORE OCTOBER FOR, FOR FOR BOTH THE 2026 AND THE 2027? NO, JUST THE 2026. 2026. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT WHETHER THIS WAS IN THE WATER MASTER PLAN, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE ON GOING OUT FOR REVENUE BONDS, FOR, UH, ALL OF THE WATER WASTEWATER FACILITIES, WE HAD THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN THAT TOLD US ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE WOULD NEED TO SPEND OVER THE NEXT, I DON'T KNOW, 10, 15, 20, HOWEVER MANY YEARS. AND OF COURSE IT'LL GET UPDATED AGAIN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. BUT I THOUGHT ONE OF THE BIG REASONS FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN WAS TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY TO GO AND, UH, ISSUE BONDS FOR. SO I'M CURIOUS, IS THERE A REASON YOU'RE NOT USING BOND [00:25:01] MONEY TO COVER THESE COSTS RIGHT HERE? 'CAUSE I WOULD THINK, AND THIS IS JUST ME, BUT YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS. I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD WANT THAT WHOLE UTILITY SYSTEM TO BE REVENUE NEUTRAL, WHATEVER YOU NEEDED TO COVER THE COSTS FOR CAPITAL OPERATING EXPENSES, YOUR WATER RATES AND YOUR IMPACT FEES WOULD COVER THOSE COSTS. BUT INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE REVENUE TO PAY FOR THAT THROUGH THAT MECHANISM, YOU'RE COMING AND ASKING THE EDC, AND I ASSUME YOU'RE NOT TALKING TO JUST US, BUT MAYBE YOU'RE GONNA TALK TO THE B BOARD NEXT WEEK ALSO. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT PART OF THE LOGIC ON THIS TO ME? SURE. AND I MAY, I MAY GET TIFFANY TO COME UP AND ADD TO IT IF I, IF I DON'T DO IT JUSTICE, BUT, UM, SO YOU ARE CORRECT. WE USE THE WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN TO HELP US SET WHAT BONDS WE, YOU KNOW, THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED. UM, UN UNFORTUNATELY IN THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN, UM, ESCALATING PRICES AND NOW TARIFFS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE HAVE CAUSED PRICES TO START TO INCREASE. AND SO, UM, WE ARE NOTICING THAT THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR AND THE BONDS THAT WE HAVE, UH, GONE OUT FOR WILL NOT MEET THE, UM, THE NEEDS. UM, SO, UM, SO, SO WHEN THESE SPECIFIC ITEMS WERE PUT INTO THE WATER MASTER PLAN, THEY WERE AT A, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER COST THAN WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE TO US TONIGHT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT. BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GONE BACK TO LOOK UP CORRECT. THE WATER WASTEWATER PLAN. CAN YOU, DO, YOU KNOW, AN ECONOMY OF SCALE OF WHAT, WHAT WE'VE SEEN? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME EITHER, SO I DO JUST WANNA ADD A NOTE. SO ANYTIME IN THE MASTER PLANS, THE COSTS THAT ARE PROJECTED IN THE MASTER PLANS ARE IN THE YEAR THAT THE MASTER PLAN IS DONE. RIGHT. THE MASTER PLANS DON'T PROJECT THAT IF WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CONSTRUCT IT IN 2028, THE MASTER PLAN COSTS THAT YOU SEE, IF IT SAYS IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS, IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE YEAR THAT THE MASTER PLAN WAS DEVELOPED. IF IT'S SAYING THAT IT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE BUILT AND IN SERVICE BY 2028, IT IS NOT IN 2020 $8 OR $27, WHATEVER THAT TIMELINE MAY BE FOR WHEN WE ACTUALLY GO INTO CONSTRUCTION. UM, SO OVER THE YEARS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IMPROVED IN ON. THE CIP IS PROJECTING, UM, TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN BY, IN THE CIP NOT REFLECTING THE MASTER PLAN DOLLARS, UH, YEARS AGO, THAT'S HOW THE CIP WAS ESTABLISHED, THAT IT JUST HAD THE C THE MASTER PLAN DOLLARS. UM, WE'VE SINCE BEEN ADDING IN INFLATION AND TRYING TO BETTER PROJECT THOSE COSTS. BUT AS CLIFF WAS EXPLAINING WITH THE, UM, DIFFERENT, THE ECONOMY THAT WE'RE IN WITH COST ACCELERATING A LOT, UM, WE'VE JUST HAD PROJECTS COME IN OR ARE PROJECTED TO COME IN HIGHER. UM, SO WHAT HE WAS REFERRING TO WAS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE EXCEEDED OUR BOND CAPACITY FOR THE, UH, WE ARE PROJECTING TO EXCEED OUR BOND CAPACITY FOR THE, WHAT THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PROJECTED IN THAT TIMEFRAME. BUT YOU'RE GOING OUT FOR BONDS AGAIN THIS COMING FALL, ARE YOU NOT OR NO, I THOUGHT THERE WAS ANOTHER ROUND OF BONDS BEING ISSUED. THIS ONE. ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UH, SO WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WILL BE GOING OUT FOR ANY SORT OF, UH, COS OR REVENUE BONDS IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED BY THE COUNCIL. UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE MIGHT NOT BE PROPOSING, UM, FUTURE REVENUE BONDS TO BE ON THIS IS RIGHT NOW WE JUST DON'T CURRENTLY KNOW WHAT THE WATER RATES ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THESE BONDS TO GO BACK OUT. UM, BUT YOU'RE CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN THE RIGHT STUDY TOO, CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE. UH, AND WHAT WILL HAVE TO BE EVALUATED IS HOW HIGH OF A JUMP WE, WE VERY MUCH ANTICIPATE, OF COURSE THEIR WATER RATES WOULD NEED TO RAISE, UH, PROPORTIONALLY, BUT HOW HIGH WOULD THEY NEED TO JUMP? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS, UM, PALATABLE, I WOULD SAY BY THE COMMUNITY AND BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO, UH, INCREASE THAT WATER RATE HIGH ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THESE FUTURE BOND PROJECTS? AND TODAY WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. UH, THIS, THIS IS JUST EDITORIAL COMMENT AND THIS IS JUST ME. I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE ELSE ON, UH, THE DA IS UP HERE FEELS ABOUT IT. BUT I, I READ ALL THESE ARTICLES ABOUT, UM, STRUCTURALLY NEUTRAL OR STRUCTURALLY SOUND BUDGETS, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. I JUST THINK THE CITY MIGHT BE, UH, PUTTING ITSELF A LITTLE BIT AT RISK IF THEY'RE NOT COVERING ALL OF THE COSTS OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER WITH THE WATER RATES AND THE IMPACT FEES OR, OR TRY TO DO THAT TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. I I LOOK [00:30:01] BACK ON THE EXPERIMENT THAT THE CITY TRIED WITH, UM, THE TRASH PICKUP, YOU KNOW, WE GOT RID OF THAT COMPLETELY AND FOUR YEARS LATER WE'RE LIKE, HMM, THIS IS A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, WE'LL START ASSESSING THE FEES AGAIN. WHICH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESIDENTS WHEN WE TOOK THE FEE AWAY, THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WEREN'T 10,000 THANK YOUS THAT CAME INTO THE CITY, BUT THEN WHEN WE BUMPED IT UP AGAIN, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THE 10,000 COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK AGAIN. SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY EDITORIAL COMMENT ON THIS. YES MA'AM. OF COURSE. AND, AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAS, YOU ARE, ARE Y'ALL POTENTIALLY THINKING ABOUT, UM, ASKING THE B BOARD ABOUT THIS ALSO? OR, OR IS THIS, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PRESENT THIS EXACT SAME THING TO THEM AS WELL FOR BOTH HARRIS STREET AND PELL. YEAH. AND I HAVE A THIRD PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS. SURE THING. I HAVE QUESTIONS TOO. OKAY. UH, SO, UH, YOU HAD CLARIFIED EARLIER THAT THE DESIGN COMPLETION IS EXPECTED FOR THE INITIAL SHALLOW WELL BY OCTOBER. UM, BUT THERE, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL DESIGN WORK NEEDED FOR THE TWO ADDITIONAL OFFSITE WELLS. ARE WE EXPECTING THE LINE ITEM DESIGN AND SURVEYING TO INCREASE OR HAVE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES OR DOES THIS 1.8 MILLION COVER BOTH, ALL THREE WELLS? YES, THAT COVERS, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE DESIGN FIRM TO DESIGN THE TWO OFFSITE WELLS. OKAY. SO, UM, I'M SORRY. SO THE 1.8 I GUESS COULD POTENTIALLY FLOW INTO 2026 AS WELL, OR A PORTION OF THE 1.8 COULD FLOW INTO THE 2026? UH, MOST, MOST LIKELY, YES. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I DID JUST WANNA TOUCH, I, WHAT IS OUR ESTIMATED DATE TO RESTART RECEIVING GROUNDWATER? DO WE HAVE THAT YET FROM NORTH FORT BEND? SURFACE WATER, SURFACE WATER. I'M SORRY. UM, THAT IS A MOVING, THAT IS A MOVING TARGET, MOVING TARGET. I ACTUALLY, UH, LAST THURSDAY HAD A, HAD A MEETING WITH BOB PATTON WHO'S ON THE BOARD. UM, AND SO I ASKED HIM THAT VERY QUESTION AND HE WAS, AH, YOU GOTTA TALK TO MATT FROLIC. SO HE'S THE ENGINEER, BUT I THINK WE WERE LAST TOLD SOMETIME 2027. SO, BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT HAS BEEN A MOVING, MOVING TARGET. SO YEAH, I, I GUESS MY QUESTION, THE FOLLOW UP OR WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO IS, UM, TO THE POINT OF YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE ADDITIONAL WELLS HERE. KAY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HEAR, HEAR ABOUT GROUND STORAGE FOR THE SURFACE WATER, JUST WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT WATER FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO OVER DRILL IF, UH, IF WE'RE EXPECTING TO GET SURFACE WATER AND HAVE TO USE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF SURFACE WATER. RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE NORTH FORT BEND WATER AUTHORITY REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE A 100% BACKUP. I THOUGHT IT WAS 60. YEAH, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT. LEMME DOUBLE CHECK THAT NUMBER. BUT I REMEMBER ONE TIME IF THEY TURN THE VALVE OFF, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SERVE US, IF THEY CAN'T SERVE US WATER, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE ENOUGH WATER TO, TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS. I REMEMBER ONE TIME THE, IT WAS EITHER THE MAYOR OR SHARON SAYING IT WAS 90%, BUT THEN I, UM, HAD A MEETING, WELL, IT WASN'T A MEETING, IT WAS SOME SEMINAR WHERE, WHAT IS HIS NAME? MIKE TURCO WAS TALKING AND HE'S THE ONE THAT GAVE ME THE 60% NUMBER. LET ME, LET ME GO BACK AND VERIFY WITH THEM BECAUSE I, I ASKED BOB PATTON THAT VERY QUESTION ON THURSDAY AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, HE MENTIONED, AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING PRIOR TO THAT, THAT, UH, WE TO SUPPLY THE WATER IF THEY CAN'T. AND SO, UM, THAT IS THE WAY WE ARE PROGRESSING IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ANTICIPATING US NEEDING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, PROVIDE THE WATER. AND I GUESS IS THERE A REASON THAT THESE WELLS WEREN'T DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WENT IN? YES. SO, UM, AS PART OF PECAN KNOLL WATER PLANT, WE DID A, A PILOT HOLE. UM, AND WE, WE DRILLED A, A HOLE AND THEN THEY, THEY PUT IN THE, THE, THE WELL, AND THEN THEY PUT A TEST MOTOR ON IT TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH WATER WE COULD DRAW OUT OF THE GROUND. UM, [00:35:02] AND IT UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT MEET THE CAPACITY THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GET OUT OF THE GROUND. SO WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE RUNNING, UM, WE WERE ANTICIPATING 28, 2800 GALLONS A DAY A MINUTE, AND IT'S 1500 GALLONS A MINUTE. BUT I GUESS, BUT WHY DIDN'T THAT HAVE AN IMPACT IN PREVENTING THE DEVELOPMENT FROM OCCURRING? 'CAUSE THOSE STUDIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN. SO THEY, THEY KIND OF RUN SIDE BY SIDE. WE WERE, WE WERE BUILDING THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. WE, WE HAD THIS LAND, UH, GIVEN TO, NOT GIVEN TO US, BUT IT WAS PART OF A, YOU KNOW, IMPACT FEE EXCHANGE, I BELIEVE, OR SOME KIND OF FEE EXCHANGE FOR THE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN PECAN KNOLL IN PECAN RIDGE FOR THE WATER PLANT. UM, IT'S, IT, YOU NEVER REALLY CAN TELL, BUT ONCE WE GOT INTO THE GROUND, THEY DID DRILLED THE PILOT HOLE, WE'D ALREADY HALF BUILT THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AND, UH, STARTED PUTTING PIPE UNDER THE GROUND. IT ALL KIND OF COINCIDED TOGETHER AS THEY WERE DOING THE, THE TEST. WELL, WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA GET WATER AND THEY ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD GET UP TO 2,800 GALLONS, BUT, UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T FIND THE SANDS WHEN WE DRILLED DOWN THERE. THAT PRODUCED ENOUGH, THE 2,800 GALLONS A DAY. DO YOU KNOW IF IT WAS A CASE OF LESS NET PAY THAN THEY WERE EXPECTING? OR WAS IT JUST A CASE OF LESS POROSITY AND PERMEABILITY? SAME, UH, PAY THICKNESS. I, I, I, I, I'M, I, I, I DON'T LOWER PRESSURE . I, I THINK THAT I, AND I, I, I DON'T KNOW THIS FOR SURE, BUT BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS, I, I SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT IT WAS, THE SANDS WERE JUST THINNER AS YOU MOVE WEST. OKAY. AND SO WE WEREN'T JUST, WE JUST WEREN'T GETTING ENOUGH AS MUCH CAPACITY OUT OF THOSE. I REMEMBER TRYING TO ASK THAT TO ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS THAT WAS HERE ONE NIGHT, AND HE DIDN'T, THE GEOLOGIST WASN'T, WASN'T THERE. HE WAS, YEAH. I'M, I'M NO GEOLOGIST. YEAH. AND I, I HATE TO SPECULATE . I THOUGHT OF ONE OTHER QUESTION. SURE. OKAY. SINCE WE'RE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT WE HELP THE CITY WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND STUFF, BUT PRIMARILY WE HELP WITH INFRASTRUCTURE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND I KNOW THERE IS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT UP HERE WHERE THESE WELLS ARE, BUT A LOT OF IT IS ALSO RESIDENTIAL. UM, AND SO I'M WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE, IF THE COMMERCIAL DEMAND FOR WATER FROM THESE WELLS IS ONLY 10 OR 20% OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPLY, UH, IS IT PROPER FOR THE EDCS TO FUND LIKE A PORTION OF THIS AS OPPOSED TO THE WHOLE KITTEN CABOODLE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, . SO, NO, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO FUND ANY PORTION OF A PROJECT THAT DOES NOT PROMOTE OR EXPAND NEW, PROMOTE NEW OR EXPANDED BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. SO TO THE EXTENT ANY PARTS OF THESE PROJECTS DO NOT PROMOTE THE EXP PROMOTE THOSE PURPOSES, IT WOULD NOT BE, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR THE DDC TO FUND THOSE PORTIONS. SO MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF ENGINEERING ANALYSIS ASSOCIATED WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE UTILIZED FOR THE PROMOTION AND EXPANSION OF NEWER EXISTING BUSINESSES. THE CITY OR THE EDC THEN CAN LEGALLY UNDER THE LAW FUND THOSE PORTIONS. AND WHENEVER THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS COME UP, UM, WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS IN CITY, IN OTHER WORDS WHERE THE EDC IS ASSISTING THE CITY AND FUNDING SOME TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, WHETHER IT BE ROADWAY WATER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, I ALWAYS RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE BETWEEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THE CITY DETAILING EXACTLY HOW MUCH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS GONNA FUND. SO IT'S ALL IN WRITING. SO THERE'S NO DISPUTE IN THE FUTURE WITH REGARDS TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND HOW IT'S GONNA BE FUNDED. SO ANELLE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF CAN GO TALK WITH THE CITY AND LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP AND TRY TO COME UP WITH LIKE AN APPROPRIATE SPLIT ON THIS? UH, YES MA'AM. IT, IT COULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE TO TRY AND DETERMINE THAT, UH, MORE CLEARLY. OKAY. I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. IS I GUESS THE WATER IS ALL INTERCONNECTED AT THE END OF THE DAY, RIGHT? SO WHICHEVER PLANT THE WATER SPECIFICALLY COMES OUT OF, IT'S ONE BIG THING. SO [00:40:01] I GUESS THE QUESTION COULD BE, AND JUST A SUGGESTION IS THAT, IS THIS IS THE CITY, UH, AT THE CORRECT CAPACITY OF WATER FOR ALL OF THE EXISTING APPROVED DEVELOPMENT WITH OR WITHOUT THESE WELLS? AND AT WHAT POINT DOES WELLS ONE, TWO AND THREE SORT OF MEET THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, BECAUSE, UM, IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY LIKE PECAN RIDGE, LIKE THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S MOSTLY DONE. I THINK THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD THEN BE FULL SURE. JUNCTION POTENTIALLY, WHICH IS A MIX OF BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND, AND CO. YEAH. AND SO I THINK WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT, THAT MIGHT FEED INTO IT IN TERMS OF, AT THAT POINT, IF YOU COULD SAY, OKAY, WELL PAST, WELL ONE, WE ARE TECHNICALLY AT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MEETING ALL OF THE NEEDS OF THE CITY, UM, THROUGH DEVELOPMENT. THEN ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AT THAT POINT IS PRETTY MUCH COMMERCIAL. AND WE WOULD SAY IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL WATER FOR THAT ADDITIONAL TO SUPPORT THAT ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT, THEN THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL, UM, OR SUPPORT OF, OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEREFORE APPROPRIATE. IT COULD JUST BE A WAY TO GET TO A PERCENTAGE EASIER. I DON'T KNOW ALONG THESE LINES OF FUNDING FROM, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE EDCA BOARD, WHAT IS THE ASK WHAT, WE DON'T HAVE $24 MILLION AND THAT'S JUST ON ONE PROJECT, LIKE IN THE CHECKING ACCOUNT. SO WHAT'S, I MEAN, ARE YOU, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC ASK? I DON'T, I DON'T THINK AT THIS TIME WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR ANY OF THE FUNDING BEYOND 2026. SO, UM, I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING WAS MORE SHOVEL READY PROJECTS. UM, THE SANITARY LINE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW. YEP. THIS, THIS ONE IS, UM, NEARING DESIGN COMPLETION AND COULD, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION START AS EARLY AS 20 JANUARY, 2026. SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE LEANING TOWARDS MORE. WE WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE Y'ALL A BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT THE WHOLE PROJECT IS BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS ONE PROJECT, BUT IT'S IN TWO PHASES. SO IT WAS, IT WAS VERY CHALLENGING FOR US TO SPLIT OUT ONE PORTION VERSUS THE OTHER AND KIND OF EXPLAIN IT THAT WAY. SO, UM, UH, THIS IS JUST THE PORTION THAT WOULD BE GOING WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD IN 2026, WHICH IS A SHALLOW WELL ON ONSITE SHALLOW. WELL, OKAY. I MEAN, BUT IF I LOOK AT THE, I MEAN, IT'S ROUGHLY AN $8 MILLION ASK IN TOTAL BETWEEN THE THREE PROJECTS AND YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ANTICIPATED THAT Y'ALL WOULD FUND ALL THREE. I THINK WE'RE JUST WANTING TO GIVE Y'ALL SOME OPTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'D LOVE IT IF YOU FUNDED ALL THREE OF COURSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT. UH, OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THE FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM WE CAN GO UP TO ON THE, ON THE ECONOMIC PROJECTS. RIGHT. I ALSO WANTED, WHICH IS AUTHORIZED BY STATUTE. YEAH. I MEAN, THESE AREN'T EVEN OUR DECISIONS. THIS IS JUST WHAT IS THE LAW ALLOW US TO GO UP TO AND ON THAT THERE ARE LIMITS ON WHAT THE ABOARD CAN DO WITH REGARDS TO WATER. UH, SO I DON'T, LET'S SEE. IT'S 5 0 1, OH, LET ME SCROLL TO IT HERE. IT'S, AND, AND CHARLIE, WHILE YOU LOOK THROUGH THAT, I DO JUST WANT TO ADD THAT WE DID SEND, UM, THE DESCRIPTION OF THESE THREE PROJECTS, UH, OVER BEFORE WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. AND DAN SANTI, UM, DID RESPOND TO THAT EMAIL AND SAID THAT, UM, HIS LEGAL OPINION WAS IF, IF WE COULD TIE THE PROJECT TO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THE BOARD FOUND THAT IT'S VERY RARELY, UM, CHALLENGED, BUT I KNOW THAT NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE DETAILS FROM CHARLIE ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THAT VERY CLEARLY, PUT IT IN AN AGREEMENT AND FIGURE OUT THE PERCENTAGE. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, THAT WE TRIED OUR BEST TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE BEFOREHAND AND FIND OUT, UM, BEFORE IT WAS EVEN BROUGHT TO Y'ALL. YEAH. THE, THE, SO THE TYPICALLY WHEN THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE BROUGHT FORWARD, SO HERE'S WHAT THE, THE LAW SAYS. SO I COULD GO TO IT AND READ IT AND NOT PARAPHRASE IT. IT'S SECTION 5 0 1, 0.103 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. AND IT SAYS, UH, PROJECT INCLUDES [00:45:01] EXPENDITURES THAT ARE FOUND BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO BE REQUIRED OR SUITABLE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO REMOTE OR DEVELOP NEW OR EXPANDED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES, LIMITED TO STREETS AND ROADS, RAIL SPURS, WATER AND SEWER FACILITIES, ELECTRIC UTILITIES OR GAS UTILITIES, DRAINAGE SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S ALL THAT'S RELATED TO Y'ALL. SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE, WHAT WE RECOMMEND IS THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE EXPENDITURES ARE FOR. UM, WE DETERMINE AND ENSURE THAT THEY, THAT THIS BOARD MAKES THE PROPER FINDINGS THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION THAT THE PROJECT WILL PROMOTE OR DEVELOP NEWER, EXPANDED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES. IT'S A LITTLE MORE, IT'S A LITTLE MORE REFINED THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT HAS TO PROMOTE OR DEVELOP NEWER, EXPANDED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES. AND THEN WE MAKE THOSE FINDINGS, UM, AUTHORIZE THE PROJECT. IT'S JUST, IN THIS CASE, IT'S A PROJECT THAT IS A, THAT THE CITY'S BRINGING FORWARD FOR PURPOSES OF, OF, OF FUNDING AS OPPOSED TO SOME COMMERCIAL ENTITY THAT'S BRINGING FORWARD A REQUEST THAT IT, THAT, THAT IN INFRASTRUCTURE BE, BE FUNDED. AND, UM, THEN LIKE ANY OTHER, LIKE ANY OTHER EXPENDITURE AGREEMENT, WE RECOMMEND THAT THERE'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE EDC AND THAT'S MOSTLY TO ENSURE THAT BOTH, BOTH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING ON PAPER THAT SAYS, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'RE FUNDING, THIS IS WHAT'S THIS, IS, THIS IS WHEN THE FUNDING IS DUE, THIS IS HOW THE FUNDING WILL BE PAID, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO THAT, SO THAT EVERYBODY EVERY, SO THAT IN CASE Y'ALL AREN'T HERE OR HE ISN'T HERE, OR I'M NOT HERE, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WAS AGREED TO AND THAT'S, THAT, THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. SO WE CERTAINLY NEED, UH, USUALLY IT'S AN ENGINEERING STUDY IS MY EXPERIENCE THAT ESTABLISHES, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA PROMOTE NEWER, EXPANDED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES. UM, UH, AND THEN THIS BOARD CAN MAKE THAT DETER BASED ON THAT THEY COULD, THIS BOARD CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO FORWARD AND WITH A, YOU KNOW, OKAY, HOW ARE WE GONNA FUND IT? YEAH. AND WITH HARRIS STREET, WE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S GONNA BE PRETTY MUCH ALL COMMERCIAL ON HARRIS STREET. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A QUESTION THERE LIKE IT IS ON PEON. A ANOTHER QUESTION THAT JUST POPPED INTO MY MIND FROM SOMETHING THAT BRIAN JUST MENTIONED, UH, ON HOW MUCH OF THIS COULD WE TAKE ON AND WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC ASK? THE OTHER, THE OTHER QUESTION, UM, THE FINANCIAL REPORT WE GOT TONIGHT SAYS THAT OUR ENDING BALANCE CURRENTLY BETWEEN BOTH THE OPERATING AND THE PROJECT FUNDS IS CURRENTLY ABOUT $6.2 MILLION. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NUMBER STILL HAS MONEY TO BE TRANSFERRED OUT FOR THE EAST SIDE DRAINAGE AND FOR YES MA'AM. IT DOES. IT'S ALREADY TRANSFERRED OUT. IT IS NOT. IT IS NOT. SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE 6.2 MILLION. WE HAVE LESS MONEY THAN THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY COMMITTED, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ON 10 93 PAYMENTS AND TEXAS HERITAGE PARKWAY PAYMENTS AND THE EAST SIDE DRAINAGE, UH, PROJECT AND YES, NO, NO, 10 93 IT IT'D BE THE ILA FOR, UM, YEAH, THP, THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT. UM, AND THEN OUR COMMITMENT TO EAST SIDE, UH, WITHOUT HAVING AN EXACT NUMBER, IT'S ROUGHLY A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION THAT WOULD BE LEFT OVER IN THE FUND BALANCE. IF YOU WERE TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND TRANSFER ALL THAT MONEY OUT, ALL THE THINGS WE'RE ALREADY COMMITTED ON. YES, MA'AM. OH, SO WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO PLAY WITH . THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE CONCERN THAT I'VE HAD FOR A WHILE NOW IS WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY AGREED TO PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE US. AND IF YOU KEEP DOING THAT, YOU RUN OUT OF MONEY . AND THE QUESTION FOR ME, WHICH IS THE QUESTION I'VE POSED MULTIPLE TIMES IS IF WE GIVE MONEY NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO COME TO SOMEONE IN A YEAR FROM NOW AND SAY, WHAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT CAN'T GO FOR WHATEVER REASON, GO FOR A BOND THAT CAN'T, UH, THAT ONLY SERVES COMMERCIAL, THAT'S ONLY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE PERFECT FOR US, UM, TO SUPPORT. UM, 'CAUSE YOU COULDN'T GET THE MONEY SOME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE POTENTIALLY. UM, YOU KNOW, IT, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ONLY HAVE 2 MILLION LEFT, UM, WITH, THAT HASN'T BEEN GIVEN OUT. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS, THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL FOR US TO UNDERSTAND. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE [00:50:01] IN A POINT IN A POSITION LATER WHERE WE CAN'T FUND SOMETHING THAT REALLY FITS WITH EXACTLY WITH WHAT WE'RE, UH, CHARGED TO DO. I, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, WE HAVE HEARD THAT REQUEST AND WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING TO THE BOARD KIND OF A FUTURE OUTLOOK OF PROJECTS BASED ON WATER, WASTEWATER, DRAINAGE, UM, ROADWAY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO, UM, MAYBE NOT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS 'CAUSE OF BUDGET, BUT WE ARE ANTICIPATING BRINGING THAT TO Y'ALL SO Y'ALL CAN GET A KINDA AN OUTLOOK. AND IF Y'ALL SEE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT Y'ALL THINK IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN THE RIGHT IN THE WHEELHOUSE, WE COULD REALLY KIND OF HONE IN ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS. YOU KNOW, THE REASON IS SO THAT YOU DON'T, IF IT BECOMES A BETTER USE OF YOUR TIME OF KNOWING WHAT REALLY FITS IN OUR WHEELHOUSE VERSUS WHERE YOU MIGHT NEED TO GO AND, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIFFERENT LEVERS TO PULL. YEAH. I GOT ONE MORE AND THEN I'LL LEAVE Y'ALL ALONG. I'M, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT OF ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE CONDO. UM, IF, IF FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE A AND B BOARD CAN HELP TO SOME EXTENT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT WE'RE EVEN ALLOWED TO FUND FOR 2026, DOES THAT MEAN THE 16 MILLION YOU NEED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027, IS THAT TURN INTO REVENUE BONDS FOR THE CITY OR IS THERE A FUNDING SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCE BESIDES WATER RATES AND IMPACT FEES TO PAY FOR THAT? THAT IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED. IT IS CERTAINLY, UH, ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER AT THAT TIME, BUT AS OF TODAY, I, I JUST CAN'T TELL YOU FOR SURE IF WE WOULD GO THAT ROUTE. WELL IF YOU TAKE, IF, IF IT'S NOT BONDS AND IF IT'S NOT WATER RATES AND IF IT'S AN NOT IMPACT FEES, WHAT'S LEFT? OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU ASKED IF WE WOULD DO A REVENUE BOND. YEAH, IT WOULD, YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE THOSE OPTIONS AND SEE WHICH ONE, BUT THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE. YES MA'AM. OKAY. UNLESS WE CAN FIND SOME, UH, REALLY GREAT FEDERAL GRANT ON IT. BUT THOSE SEEM TO BE PRETTY RARE RIGHT NOW. YES, YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. RIGHT. AND THE LAST PROJECT IS KATIE FULCHER LIFT STATION EXPANSION. AND SO THIS PROJECT CONSISTS OF EXPANDING THE CURRENT LIFT STATION CAPACITY FROM HALF A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO 1.2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF SANITARY FLOW FROM THE DOWNTOWN WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY TO THE CROSS CREEK RANCH WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. THIS PROJECT INCLUDES REHABILITATING THE EXISTING WET WELL AT KATY FULCHER LIFT STATION AND THE ADDITION OF NEW ELECTRICAL PUMPS, PIPING AND APPURTENANCES ADDIT. ADDITIONALLY, A NEW EIGHT INCH FORCE MAIN WILL BE CONSTRUCTED FROM THE KATY RE LIFT STATION TO THE CROSS CREEK RANCH WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY TO DIVERT THOSE FLOWS. THIS PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES AN EIGHT INCH SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION BEGINNING AT WILSON STREET AND FIFTH STREET THAT WILL SERVE THE BLACKBURN PARCEL TO THE NORTH BY EXPANDING THE LIFT STATION CAPACITY AND DIVERTING FLOWS FROM THE DOWNTOWN WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. THIS PROJECT WILL INCREASE SYSTEM CAPACITY IN BOTH THE DOWNTOWN AND THE KATY, KATY FULCHER ROAD SERVICE AREAS. UM, AS THESE AREAS ARE PRIMARILY DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE, THE ADDED CAPACITY DIRECTLY SUPPORTS FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS PROJECT ALSO, UH, MARKS THE FIRST PHASE OF A SERIES OF STRATEGIC IMPROVEMENTS INTENDED TO ULTIMATELY DECOMMISSION THE DOWNTOWN WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY PAVING THE WAY FOR MORE EFFICIENT AND MODERNIZED WASTEWATER SYSTEMS THAT PROMOTES LONG-TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH. AND IT'S NOT WRITTEN ON THERE, BUT ALSO ALLOW THE EXTENSION OF THE WEST PARKWAY. AND SO IT'S CURRENTLY IN DESIGN IN THIS YEAR? IT STARTED FEBRUARY OF 2025. OH, IT WENT BACKWARDS. WHY DID IT DO THAT? IT'S GOING BACKWARDS. , I'M DIRECTIONALLY CHALLENGED ON THE KEEP AD HERE. OKAY. SORRY. WELL, OKAY. I USE THE PAPER. THERE IT GOES. JUST TOOK YOUR TOUCH. ALRIGHT, SO DESIGN STARTED IN OCTOBER OF 2024. UH, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, BID STARTING IN JANUARY OF 2026. ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION START OF MARCH, 2026 AND ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION OF JUNE OF 2027. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE MENTIONED, OR IT SAYS IN HERE [00:55:01] THAT THIS IS PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL, THE SERVICE AREAS, UM, BUT DOWNTOWN CAN BE ANYTHING, RIGHT? YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE IN DOWNTOWN? NOT ANYMORE. NOT ANYMORE. NO. I THINK, I THINK YOU CAN'T DO SINGLE FAMILY DOWNTOWN ANYMORE. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. SO I, MY OVER MY OVERARCHING POINT IS WE WILL NEED A, UH, TO DO THE ACTUAL MATH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE MAX THAT WE WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO CONSIDER. YOU CAN DO TOWN HOMES AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF LIKE THAT. JUST NO SINGLE FAMILY USE. OKAY. YEAH, WE, I, WE GONNA LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU SAY THIS, UM, IS PRIMARILY DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE AND WITH, UH, MR. ZACK'S ADVICE TO US FOR EXPANDING EXISTING OR BRINGING IN NEW BUSINESSES. UH, THIS WOULD ALSO HELP WITH ANY NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG 10 93 BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO THE CROSS CREEK RANCH. YEAH. . SO, SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE YOU WOULD FIT THE DEFINITION OF EXPANDING EXISTING BUSINESSES OR NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR ANYTHING NEW OR EXPANSION ALONG 10 93 BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND BASICALLY THE CROSS CREEK RANCH MAIN ENTRANCE. ANYTHING OUT OUTSIDE OF THE CROSS CREEK RANCH SYSTEM? YES. TO UM, PROBABLY JUST WEST, I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO THINK MY HEAD OR TO THE WASTEWATER FACILITY UP TO ABOUT KATY FULCHER NORTH AND THEN OKAY. YEP. YEAH. OOPS. SO THIS NEW MCKENNAN, UM, THAT WAS REZONED, THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS COMMERCIAL AREA, UH, CENTRAL, UH, RE CENTRAL IS INCLUDED IN THIS AREA. OKAY. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, THE, THE BO ARC AREA, EVERYTHING EAST AND WEST IS INCLUDED IN THIS, IN THIS AREA UP TO, UP TO THE CA, UP TO KATY RE ROAD ROUGHLY, AND PROBABLY TO ABOUT THE TEXAS HERITAGE PARKWAY BECAUSE THE WASTEWATER PLANT FOR CROSS CREEK IS CLOSE, CORRECT. TO THAT NORTHEAST CORNER. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . SO IT SOUNDS LIKE LEGAL NEEDS TO HELP US WITH SOME THINGS BEFORE WE CAN EVEN REALLY GIVE YOU AN ANSWER. YEAH, YEAH. WE NEED SOME INFORMATION REGARDING WHICH OF THESE, I THINK Y'ALL NEED INFORMATION. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ALL YOU NEED YET OR NOT AS TO WHICH OF THESE PROJECTS WILL APPROPRIATELY PROMOTE AND EXPAND NEW, NEW EXISTING BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, THEN MAKE A DECISION ON AMOUNTS AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER AGREEMENTS. THOSE ARE VERY SIMPLE TO DO ONCE WE DETERMINE AMOUNTS AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE FUNDED. AND Y'ALL CAN APPROVE THOSE. THE, I FEEL CONFIDENT THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT IS 100% COMMERCIAL. UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. THAT IS, UM, BUILDING ON AN INVESTMENT WE'VE ALREADY MADE, WE COVERED THE TOTAL COST AT THE TIME OF HARRIS STREET. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE IF YOU ALL FELT COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH, UM, SUPPORTING, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS. YEP. YEAH. UM, AND IF WE SPLIT THAT, IF IT WAS 50 50 BETWEEN US AND THE B BOARD, THEN OUR SHARE WOULD BE ABOUT, UM, 200, 200 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND TWO 30 . THANK YOU. SO, BUT WE CAN FUND AS MUCH OF OF THAT AS WE WANT. YES. AND I, AND WE, AND WE HAVE MONEY TO COVER 236,000. WE, WELL, WE, I MEAN, BUT WE HAVE, WE COULD DO, WE COULD FUND THE ENTIRE 400. YES. I'D RATHER SPLIT IT, BUT YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S JUST ME. I, UM, I, I LIKE, I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION AT LEAST WHEN A, THE A BOARD FUNDS INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT SUPPORTS [01:00:01] BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IN FOR SURE. UM, WHILE THE B BOARD HAS, UH, MORE LEVERS THAT THEY CAN PULL WHILE WE'RE LIMITED. UM, THE OTHER PROJECTS, I, I JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL, I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT OUR MAXIMUM FUNDING IS AND WE DON'T HAVE AN UNLIMITED, I MEAN IF, EVEN IF WE, SO IF WE DID THE ALMOST $500,000 FOR HARRIS STREET, THAT NOW LEAVES US AS ONLY 1.5 MILLION, YOU KNOW, FOR AN ASK OF EIGHT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, THAT'S GONNA HAMSTRING US. I KNOW, UH, THAT THIS CAN'T BE PART OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT, BUT, UM, WHICHEVER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE DO END UP FUNDING, UM, WE WOULD APPRECIATE SOME UPDATES FROM YOU GUYS. UH, I THINK WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR AN UPDATE ON HARRIS STREET FOR A LITTLE BIT AND WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ONE HERE AT THIS MEETING. UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, FULL WORK WEEKS AND UH, WE ARE ASKING YOU GUYS TO STAY LATER, BUT, UM, WE WOULD APPRECIATE REGULAR UPDATES ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE FUNDING. OKAY. ON THAT, ON THAT TOPIC. LIKE IT DOESN'T, WE HAVE YOUTUBE, YOU CAN MAKE A VIDEO AND SEND US THE LINK . I MEAN, I WANT, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO JUST IMPOSE A BUNCH OF RULES ON PEOPLE AND MAKE YOU SHOW UP TO A THREE HOUR MEETING AND STAY TWO HOURS. I, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE THIS AS EASY FOR YOU AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE, WE WOULD LIKE THE INFORMATION. WE DO HAVE DRONE VIDEOS THAT WE, THAT WE ROU ROUTINELY. YEAH. WE POST 'EM ON FACEBOOK. BUT THAT SEND US THE LINK OR I FOLLOWED LIKE EVERY FILTER PAGE THERE IS. AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT IN MY FACEBOOK FEED. I DON'T KNOW IF MY ALGORITHM IS MESSED UP, BUT, OH, I'M JUST TELLING. SO WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT EARLIER THIS WEEK. UM, WE DID PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, UH, FOR Y'ALL AND NAIL'S GONNA COVER IT. I THINK SHE, SHE EMAILED IT OUT TO Y'ALL. UH, WE ARE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, UH, AND UH, WE REALIZE THAT IT CAN BE KIND OF A, WE CAN MAKE SOME FINE TUNES IF Y'ALL ARE NOT SATISFIED OR IF IT'S TOO MUCH INFORMATION. UH, THAT'S USUALLY NOT THE CASE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, I DID, I DID SEE THE EMAIL THIS AFTERNOON AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. SO, YEAH, IT WAS BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT WE, WE TALKED TO BRIAN A. LITTLE BIT. I THINK IT WAS TODAY'S MONDAY, SO IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN LAST WEEK 'CAUSE IT WASN'T EARLIER THIS WEEK. , , YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, THIS KIND OF ALL RUNS TOGETHER. UM, SO YEAH, LAST WEEK. SO AS SHE GOES THROUGH IT, IF THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TWEAK OR CHANGE, WE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR Y'ALL. THANK YOU. IS THERE, UM, ANY ACTION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE AT THIS MEETING OR IS THIS, UH, JUST A DISCUSSION? THE AGENDA ITEM IS, UM, LISTED AS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ACTION, YOU CAN, I'LL JUST REMIND YOU TIMELINE WISE TONIGHT, UM, FOLLOWING THIS, YOU'LL HEAR THE, UM, DRAFT OF OUR BUDGET. UM, AND THEN BUDGET ADOPTION FOR THE BOARD IS NEXT MONTH. SO I'M, SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BY NEXT MONTH. THAT'S A DROP DEAD DATE FOR US, BASICALLY. YES. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET A, THAT ENGINEERING STUDY BACK IN TIME FOR THAT? OR WOULD BE, WILL YOU BE MAKING SOME GUESSTIMATE? I, I, I CAN WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH OUR WATER WASTEWATER TEAM TOMORROW? I CAN ASK THAT QUESTION, SEE WHAT MAYBE IT WOULD TAKE AND IF, UM, IF WE CAN THEN YEAH, WE WILL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET IT DONE. IS THERE ANY REASON FOR US TO NOT SAY WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SANITARY SEWER AT SOME DOLLAR AMOUNT? BECAUSE AS WE'VE ALL STATED, THAT'S HARRIS STREET, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PROJECT. UM, IS THERE ANYTHING KEEPING US FROM SAYING THAT WE'LL DO AT LEAST HALF ALL WE NEED IS A MOTION? I'M HAP WELL, I, I, YEAH. AND WE CAN DO THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET AND DOING THE NUMBERS FOR THE BUDGET NEXT MONTH ANYWAY. BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO GO HABS THESE ON IT. , IS THAT A MOTION? NO, IT, IT IS AN EMOTION. 'CAUSE I FIGURE WE'VE GOT ALL THE NUMBERS TO APPROVE NEXT MONTH AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IT [01:05:01] AS PART OF THE WHOLE, WHOLE BUDGET. BUT YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION. YEAH. WHATEVER YOUR INTENTION IS. IF YOU'LL JUST LET US KNOW TONIGHT. IF YOU SAY UP TO THIS PERCENTAGE IF ALLOWABLE OF THIS PROJECT, THEN WE CAN PUT A PLACEHOLDER INTO THE BUDGET FOR THAT AND BRING IT. 'CAUSE WE CAN REMOVE IT. BUT IT'S HARDER TO ADD IT, IT'S EASIER TO JUST GO AHEAD AND HAVE ALL OF OUR RESOLUTIONS FOR PROJECT DECLARATIONS AND ALL OF THAT DRAFTED AND READY AND JUST MOVE THE AMOUNT, UM, THAN IT IS TO CREATE IT OUTSIDE OF THE SCHEDULE. SO INSTEAD OF A MOTION I'D BE, I'D, I WOULD PREFER JUST GIVING STAFF GUIDANCE TO STAFF ON WHAT TO DO WITH THIS. YES. SO, SO I WOULD BE HAPPY FOR HARRIS STREET TO PUT 50% OF THE COST IN THE BUDGET AND CROSS MY FINGERS THAT MAYBE THE B BOARD WOULD PICK UP THE OTHER 50%. BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANNA TAKE OUR, UH, BALANCE DOWN TO IF, IF WE'RE 2 MILLION WITH THE TOTAL OF BOTH OPERATING AND I MEAN WE HAVE TO HAVE MONEY TO OPERATE NEXT YEAR. SO WE NEED TO KNOW JUST WHAT IS IN THE PROJECTS FUND, I GUESS. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANNA DRAIN THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ZERO, I THINK. I THINK IT'S, UH, WISE TO HAVE SOME MONEY IN THE HIP POCKET IN CASE SOMETHING COMES UP THAT WE REALLY WANNA FUND NEXT YEAR. SO, BUT I, BUT ON, UH, PECAN NOEL, I THINK THAT NUMBER NEEDS TO BE WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS, WHAT IS EVEN WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, HOW MUCH COULD WE DO? AND THEN COMPARE THAT TO HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE IN THE PROJECTS FUND AND HOPEFULLY NOT TAKE IT TO ZERO. OKAY. THIS, IN OUR MEETINGS, WE RARELY HAVE JUST DISCUSSED A TOPIC THAT WE CONTINUE DISCUSSING FOR ANOTHER EIGHT HOURS AND WE HAVE JUST SIMPLY MOVED ON TO THE NEXT LINE ITEM. SO TECHNICALLY, DO I NEED A MOTION TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LINE ITEM OR CAN I JUST MOVE? YOU CAN MOVE. OKAY. UNLESS IT'S THAT. OKAY. I THINK WE'VE GIVEN YOU GUIDANCE ON THE BEST GUIDANCE WE CAN FOR NEXT MONTH. AND THEN, AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE UP TO US YEAH. NEXT MONTH TO DECIDE HOW MUCH DO, ARE WE COMFORTABLE SPENDING, LOOKING AT WHAT DOLLARS WE STILL HAVE? YEP. LEFT FOR I'LL SAY CONTINGENCY. YEAH. AND THAT'LL BE THE QUESTION IS WHAT WILL OUR, WHAT, WHAT IS OUR ANTICIPATED ACCOUNT BALANCE FOR NEXT YEAR AND WHAT DO WE WANT, HOW DO WE WANT TO CHANGE IT? OKAY. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE SUGGESTING B BOARD COVER THE OTHER HALF. WE'RE PUTTING IN THE PLACEHOLDER TO COVER HALF OF THE HARRIS STREET. UM, ASK FRONT THAT WE HEARD FROM CLIFF TONIGHT, AND THEN WE'LL BRING YOU THE EXACT AMOUNT, WHAT WOULD BE LEFT IN THE FUND BALANCE AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND COMPARE THAT TO WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL, UM, COST THAT WE COULD COVER FOR THE OTHER TWO BASED ON THE SPLIT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL SLASH COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE SPLIT. SO THAT'S GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP AND I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET AN EXACT NUMBER. I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO OFF OF WHAT'S THE BEST GUESSTIMATE BECAUSE SOME OF THIS IS UNDEVELOPED AND WE DON'T HAVE PLATS AND WE DON'T HAVE, UM, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND, AND ALL THAT STUFF. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE BEST EDUCATED GUESS WE CAN COME UP WITH ON THAT. YES MA'AM. [Business - E] OKAY. SO LET'S MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM E DISCUSSION ON A YEAR THREE ADDENDUM TO THE FULL SURE FAST TRACK CONTRACT. AND THANK YOU VERY, VERY, VERY MUCH TO CLIFF AND TIFFANY AND KELSEY FOR, UH, BEARING WITH US AND ANSWERING ALL OUR QUESTIONS. MUCH, MUCH, MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK Y'ALL. SORRY. NO, YOU'RE GOOD. JUST ONE MY EARS. ? NO, THERE'S A LOTION. YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY THAT WE CAN'T FIX THAT. OKAY. SO I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A SUMMARY OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL AT OUR LAST MEETING FOR, UH, FULL SHARE FAST TRACK YEAR THREE OPTIONS, AND THEN, UM, HIGHLIGHT THE ADDITIONAL TWO THAT WE'VE INCLUDED. SO, AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, UM, THE CANON HAS PROVIDED EDC STAFF WITH THREE OPTIONS FOR A YEAR. THREE ADDENDUM TO THE FULL SHARE FAST TRACK CONTRACT. THE FIRST OPTION IS SIMILAR TO OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE, UM, WITH THE ONLY SHIFT BEING TO TAKE HIM FROM THE PART-TIME HOURS TO A FULL-TIME ONSITE. UH, THIS BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THIS OPTION WOULD BE $216,850. [01:10:02] AND THAT AMOUNT IS A 2.4% INCREASE OVER WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. OPTION TWO, UM, MOVES AWAY FROM A CANON REPRESENTATIVE SERVING AS MANAGING DIRECTOR AND INSTEAD WE WOULD SHIFT TO AN IN-HOUSE EMPLOYEE FILLING THAT ROLE. SO THE COST FOR THAT OPTION, UM, WOULD BE $71,500, UH, FOR CANON SERVICES, PLUS THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR NEW EDC STAFF. SO I'LL TAKE A PAUSE THERE TO SAY THAT ADDITIONAL COST FOR OPTION TWO, WE CREATED THAT JOB DESCRIPTION WITH HELP FROM OUR HR TEAM, AND THE SALARY FOR THAT POSITION WOULD BE $61,214 PLUS AN ESTIMATED 22,000 FOR THAT EMPLOYEE'S BENEFITS. SO THE TOTAL COST FOR THAT BRINGING THAT POSITION IN HOUSE WOULD BE RIGHT AROUND $83,000. NOW, UM, AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING, YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT AN OPTION WHERE WE CONTINUED WITH THE MANAGING DIRECTOR TO ENSURE CONTINUITY OF THE PROGRAM WHILE ALSO BRINGING SOMEONE ON BOARD AND ALLOWING A FULL YEAR OF THAT TRANSITION TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T LOSE THAT MOMENTUM AND THE RELATIONSHIPS BUILT WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. SO OPTION, UH, THAT WE SENT THAT BACK TO THE CANNON, THEY REVISED THEIR PROPOSAL, THEY, UM, CREATED OPTION THREE. SO THAT WOULD, UH, REDUCE CURRENT HOURS AS OUTLINED IN YEAR TWO OF THE AGREEMENT FROM 32 HOURS TO 20 HOURS. SO THIS MEANS TAKING OR KEEPING MATT WHERE HE WAS THE FIRST YEAR, UM, AND THEN HIRING THAT NEW PERSON. SO THAT NEW PERSON IN-HOUSE WOULD BE THE COST THAT I JUST STATED. THE 83, UH, ABOUT $83,000. UM, OKAY. AND THEN THERE IS A FOURTH OPTION THAT, UM, WE'VE CREATED AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AND THIS OPTION, UM, WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE THE CANNON CONTRACT NOT RENEWED AND NO NEW STAFF ADDED TO THE EDC TEAM. SO IT WOULD BE MYSELF AND HAYDEN TAKING ON WHATEVER PORTIONS OF THE CURRENT PROGRAM WE ARE ABLE TO MANAGE AND CONTINUING GOING FORWARD WITH THAT. SO IT WOULD LOOK LIKE US LEADING AND PLANNING DEVELOPMENT OF PROGRAMMING SUCH AS EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS AND NETWORKING EVENTS AND THEN DEVELOPING PROGRAMMING BASED ON JUST THE LOCAL NEEDS OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY'RE SHARING WITH US. SO COORDINATING SPEAKERS, ALL OF THAT. AND THEN DOING THE MARKETING AND THE OUTREACH FOR THOSE EVENTS. SO CREATING THE CONTENT AND ENSURING THE DISTRIBUTION OF ALL THAT. I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT COST FOR THIS OPTION BECAUSE IT WOULD BE VERY DEPENDENT ON HOW, WHAT ROUTE WE TAKE WITH MARKETING, HOW MANY EVENTS WE DO, WHAT DO THOSE EVENTS CONSIST OF, WHAT'S THE RATE OF THOSE SPEAKERS. ALL OF ALL OF THOSE FACTORS WOULD REALLY DETERMINE KIND OF THE COST OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE FOUR OPTIONS WE HAVE AND THE NUMBERS WITH THEM. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE OR NEED ANY CLARIFICATION? UM, SO THE OPTION FOUR, I GUESS, IS THERE ANY BACKGROUND ON WHAT LED THIS REQUEST TO ADD THIS FOURTH OPTION? NOT ANY OTHER THAN IT WAS REQUESTED , I GUESS. SO MATT IS CURRENTLY WORKING AROUND 32 HOURS A WEEK. SO THIS REQUEST IS ESSENTIALLY THAT WE EITHER REDUCE WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING OFFERED BY THE FULL SURE FAST TRACK OR THAT THE TWO OF YOU TAKE ON AN ADDITIONAL 32 HOURS OF WORK PER WEEK IN ORDER FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THE LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE TO GET THAT SAME LEVEL OF BENEFIT OUT OF THE SHORE FAST TRACK. SO WHEN I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY BOSS, AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT DIRECT BOSS EXETER, BUT WHEN I, MY BOSS ASKED ME TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF CAPACITY, MY REQUEST IS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO STOP DOING SO THAT I CAN NOW DO THIS? SO I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION IS THAT THEY ARE, ARE THEY ASKING THIS TO BE ADDITIONAL LABOR? ARE THEY ASKING IT TO REPLACE WORK THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING DONE? CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE? OH, PERFECT. , ABSOLUTELY. UH, NO. SO WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD REQUESTED THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM MEMBERS LOOK INTO THIS, [01:15:01] IT WAS JUST TO PROVIDE ANOTHER OPTION FOR IT. 'CAUSE THE THREE OPTIONS WERE PRIMARILY CON, UM, CENTERED ON SOME CONTINUATION WITH THE CANNON. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE ANOTHER OPTION OF WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE DID COMPLETELY INTERNALIZE IT. UM, AND SO IT'S REALLY JUST TO PROVIDE ANOTHER OPTION TO BOTH THE EDCS AND THE CITY COUNCIL. UM, WHEN WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH MS. GUADALUPE AND, UH, MR. FARR ON THIS, WE REALIZED THAT THERE IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU COULD TAKE AN ENTIRE PERSON WHO MAY BE DOING 32 40 HOURS OF WORK AND THEN COMPLETELY JUST DROP THAT ONTO TWO UH, FTES. AND SO PART OF WHAT I HAD ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT WAS TO SAY, WHAT CAN YOU DO IF YOU'RE DOING IT IN HOUSE, NOT STOPPING WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY DROPPING, BUT WHAT KIND OF ITEMS COULD YOU ADD ON KEEPING THE HIGHLIGHTS, THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR REALLY GOOD THINGS ABOUT WITH FULL SURF FAST TRACK, BUT MAYBE NOT THE ENTIRE $200,000 FULL-TIME PERSON LOOKING INTO IT. AND SO THAT WAS HOW WE CAME TO THIS. JUST ASK WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AS A POSSIBILITY KNOWING THAT IT'S JUST ONE OF SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER. SO I GUESS WAS THE CONCERN OR THE, I WOULD SAY THE DRIVING FORCE MORE ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CANNON AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING THE, THE, THE CURRENT SESSIONS AND WORKSHOPS AND SUCH THAT ARE OCCURRING WITHIN THE SHORE PASS TRACK? I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. I GUESS THERE, 'CAUSE THE REQUEST ALSO EXCLUDES ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL MM-HMM . UM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS, RIGHT? SO I GUESS IS, IS THE, IS THE DRIVING FACTOR MORE ABOUT THE EXPENSES RELATED TO WORKING WITH THE CANON ORGANIZATION OR IS THE, IF MORE JUST ABOUT LIKE WHAT ARE JUST SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN CUT EXPENSES? THE LATTER. OKAY. SO NOT ANYTHING AGAINST THE CANON. I THINK THEY'VE PROVIDED A VALUABLE SERVICE AND IF THE DECISION IS TO CONTINUE MOVING WITH THEM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL. BUT JUST LOOKING AT, AGAIN, DIFFERENT PRICE POINT OPTIONS TO BE PROVIDED WAS THE INTENTION ON THIS. OKAY. WELL I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THAT'S A LOT TO PUT ON HAYDEN AS ANELLE IS ABOUT TO STEP AWAY WITH BABY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE THAT. I APPRECIATE WHAT HAYDEN DOES AND HE CAN'T BE THREE PEOPLE . WELL, AND I CERTAINLY HOPE MS. GUADALUPE IS BACK BY THE TIME THAT THIS WOULD START AS WELL. THAT IS THE INTENT AS WELL. BUT YES, NOTED. WELL TO, TO ME OPTION FOUR SOUNDS, WELL HOLD ON, MAYBE I'M NOT LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY. OPTION FOUR IS MAYBE KIND OF SORTA A VARIATION ON OPTION TWO WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE A TRANSITION AS OPPOSED TO JUST A, UM, COMPLETE DISCONNECT. IT WOULD BE SMOOTHER THAN OPTION FOUR. SO OPTION FOUR IS US ABSORBING THE COMPONENTS OF THE EVERYTHING PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR. YEAH. YES. UM, AND THEN JUST LETTING THE CURRENT CONTRACT END WHEN IT ENDS WITH NO RENEWAL. AND SO YOU LOSE THE ACCESS TO ALL THE CANON ADVISORS AND, UM, WHAT THEY KNOW AND WHAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE ON POTENTIAL INVESTORS AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS WELL. YES MA'AM. AND IF WE EVER DID GO TO, UH, IF WE EVER DID FIND A BRICK AND MORTAR TO HAVE AN ACTUAL HUB WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME IN AND HAVE LIKE A COWORKING SPACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ALL OF THAT THEN WOULD FALL ON YOU GUYS AS OPPOSED TO THE CANNON WHO'S DONE IT SIX OR SEVEN OR EIGHT TIMES AND HAS KIND OF OPTIMIZED THAT PROCESS IN A WAY, YES. IT WOULD JUST KIND OF FRACTURE THAT RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE THE, THE GOAL IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO ESTABLISH A PHYSICAL LOCATION. CORRECT. UM, AND TO HAVE THAT PERSON REPRESENT THE CITY THERE TO SERVE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST OF, UM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS WITH THE FACT THAT THE PROGRAM SERVES PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT AT THAT TIME WHEN THERE IS A PHYSICAL LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY, IT WOULD BE A DRAW INTO SHORE FOR BUSINESSES TO ESTABLISH THEMSELVES. UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE TO SPEND THEIR DAY WORKING, UM, SHOPPING HERE WITHIN THE CITY. AM I, AM [01:20:01] I UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY? I UNDER, I MEAN, OPTION NUMBER ONE, IT'S REAL EASY TO UNDERSTAND THE 206 16,000 OPTION TWO, THE 71,000 THAT'S SHOWN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER TO SHOW THE TOTAL COST. WOULD YOU ADD 83 TO IT AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE 154? THAT'S RIGHT. YES. OKAY. AND THEN ON OPTION THREE, DO I NEED TO ADD 83,000 TO THE 160 THERE TO GET THE TOTAL COST? YES, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT'S REAL EXPENSIVE. THAT, SO YOU KINDA WANNA THROW THAT ONE OUT 'CAUSE THAT'S 243,000. SO I GUESS QUESTION, THE PART OF THE IDEA WAS THAT THIS ADDITIONAL PERSON WITH IN YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD BE SORT OF 50, 50, 20 TO 30 HOURS WORKING ON SHORE FAST TRACK AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL 10 HOURS OF LABOR TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM AS NEEDED. SO I GUESS IS IT THE FULL 80 OR IS IT 65% OF THAT, OR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S, IF IT'S 32, IF WE'RE TRYING TO, IF THAT PERSON WOULD ESSENTIALLY THE IDEA BEING OF REPLACING MATT WHO'S CURRENTLY PUTTING IN 30 YEAH. 32 HOURS, THEN IT WOULDN'T BE THE FULL 83, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE WHATEVER PERCENTAGE THAT IS OF. SO YOU'RE SAYING, UH, THE, A NEW FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE IF THEY'RE TAKING ON WHILE MATT IS STILL HERE, WOULD BE DOING HALF FAMILIARIZING THEMSELVES WITH FULL STREET FAST TRACK AND HALF OTHER DUTIES AS NEEDED BY THE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? YES. THAT, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD ONBOARD THAT PERSON. I KIND OF LIKE THE, LIKE THE COMMUNICATIONS LADY WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW. YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO MAYBE 1 54 ISN'T THE CORRECT NUMBER. MAYBE IT'S, UM, 70 AND 60 AND MAYBE IT'S 130. OKAY. BUT ISH KEEP, KEEP IN MIND THAT IF WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY THIS PERSON'S ENTIRE SALARY, THEN SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CITY IS GOING TO EITHER HAVE TO PAY THIS PERSON'S THE REST OF THEIR SALARY OR THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE. AND NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO HR ISSUES THAT I'M NOT SURE, SORRY, THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS WOULD BE TO MAKE THEM A FULL-TIME YEAH. CITY EMPLOYEE WITHIN THE EDC DEPARTMENT OR A PART-TIME CDC EMPLOYEE WITHIN YEAH, THE C SORRY, MY QUESTION WAS NOT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE, THAT IT WOULD, WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT WOULD TECHNICALLY FALL UNDER THE LINE ITEM OF FULL SURE FAST TRACK. YEAH. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THIS CONTRACT DOLLAR AMOUNT BECOME THAT WE THEN TAKE TO CITY COUNCIL BUT RECOGNIZING THAT WE WOULD STILL, THE EDC WOULD STILL BE PAYING THE REST OF THE, THE REST OF THE SALARY. GOTCHA. IT WOULD JUST FALL UNDER A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM ON THE BUDGET. OKAY. YEAH. SO THE, SORRY, THAT WAS THE CANNON WOULD REFLECT THE $71,000 THAT WE'D CONTINUE TO PAY THEM. AND THEN WITHIN OUR EDC BUDGET, OUR PERSONNEL BUDGET WOULD REFLECT. SO FOR, WE ARE JOINING THESE NUMBERS TO CLARIFY TO YOU WHAT THE TOTAL INVESTMENT IS, BUT IT WON'T BE REFLECTED IN THAT CANON CONTRACT. IT'LL BE TWO SEPARATE THINGS. LOOKING AT OPTION THREE, IT ALSO STATES THAT, UH, THE BUDGET TOTAL WOULD, WOULD AN, WOULD BE AN ANNUAL DECREASE OF $51,400. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, $28,000 INCREASE OVERALL IF YOU ADD IN THAT 80 THOU $83,000 SALARY. YEAH. UM, SO IT'S NOT AS LARGE OF A DIFFERENCE, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT YEAR OVER YEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BUDGETED. YEAH, IT'S A DECREASE OF THE MONEY TO THE CANNON, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN AN YEAH, I AGREE. I LIKE THE THIRD OPTION SOLELY BECAUSE THEN IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, UM, WE THEN COULD STEP AWAY AND THAT ROLE COULD BE A STAFF MEMBER. UM, BUT THAT ALSO ALLOWS SOME TIME FOR THAT STAFF MEMBER TO HELP WITH OTHER EDC ITEMS. UM, GRANTED NEXT YEAR THEY MAY ONLY DO, YOU KNOW, 50% FULL FOR FASTTRACK TYPE THINGS. UM, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE LEARNING AND THEY ALSO WILL GET MORE EFFICIENT DOING EDC THINGS IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR. UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT FIRST YEAR EMPLOYEES ARE NOT THE QUICKEST, BUT WE WANT FOLKS TO LEARN. I, UM, I FIR MY, FIRST OF ALL, AT A HIGH LEVEL, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THIS DECISION AT OUR NEXT MEETING WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THE BUDGET NUMBERS. THAT'S MY, AND, AND WE NEED TO HAVE AS MANY APPLES TO APPLES AS WE POSSIBLY, AND WE NEED TO HAVE AS MANY APPLES TO APPLES AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IMPACTS, NO MATTER WHAT LINE [01:25:01] ITEM IT COMES FROM, HOW IT IMPACTS THE, THE, THE TOTAL BUDGET. UM, SO YOU DO GET TO SEE THE, THE BUDGET, THE REST OF THE BUDGET TODAY. UM, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, THIS PRESENTATION WITH THESE OPTIONS IS GOING TO OUR CITY COUNCIL NEXT TUESDAY. SO IDEALLY FOR US, IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE YOUR CHOICE OF WHICH OPTION YOU FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE WITH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FULLY AGREE WITH IT, BUT WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK, UH, ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM WITHOUT LOSING THAT MOMENTUM AND DOES THE BEST WITH SPENDING THESE TAX DOLLARS? UM, SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL ON THAT NEXT TUESDAY, THE 17TH MEETING. OKAY. SO BETWEEN THE FOUR OPTIONS, UM, WE NEED TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE NOW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DO YOU ALREADY HAVE AN IDEA ON DEVIN LIKES NUMBER THREE, BONNIE? UM, I ALSO LIKE NUMBER THREE. I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IF, IF THE LONG-TERM GOAL IS THAT THIS BECOMES SOMETHING THAT IS MANAGED INTERNALLY, I THINK THAT IT IS REASONABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON NEEDED WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE ON THAT WORK. AND THEN I THINK OPTION THREE ALSO ALLOWS THAT PERSON THE TIME TO COME IN, BE TRAINED UNDER MAT, AND ALSO TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY CAN GARNER FROM THE CANON RESOURCES. AND THEN AS WE, I KNOW WE'RE NOT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE, NOT FOUR YEAR FOUR, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REASONABLENESS THAT YEAR FOUR LOOKS MORE LIKE OPTION TWO OR MAYBE EVEN CLOSER TO OPTION FOUR, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A THING. IF, IF WE FEEL AT THAT POINT THAT I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UH, WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CANON AND, AND HOW, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE RESOURCES VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE FEEL THAT WE COULD TAKE ON, UM, WITHIN OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, PERSONNEL. BUT I, I, I THINK THAT OPTION THREE SETS SHORE FAST TRACK UP FOR THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE, UM, BY MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE, THAT WE BRING IN THEIR APPROPRIATE STAFFING AND THAT WE GIVE THEM THE APPROPRIATE TRAINING TO MAKE THE PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL. OKAY. WHEN I LOOK AT OPTION TWO, AND IT'S PROBABLY ALSO SOMEWHERE ON OPTION ONE, I LOOK AT, UM, THE CANNON IS GOING TO PROVIDE, AND MATT IS PRIMARILY THE ADVISORY SUPPORT AND THE COORDINATOR AND, YOU KNOW, EVENTS AND MARK, WELL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE DOES MARKETING, UM, OR IF THAT'S SOMEBODY ELSE BACK ON BRIMORE IN HOUSTON THAT DOES THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK MATT HANDLES DIGITAL PLATFORM ACCESS. I DON'T THINK HE DOES ANYTHING WITH THE WEBSITE INFRASTRUCTURE. I DON'T THINK HE DOES MUCH OF ANYTHING WITH DIGITAL SOCIAL MARKETING OF FFT. I DO THINK HE DOES GUIDANCE ON PROGRAMMING ACTIVITIES, BUT THAT, THE REASON I'M TALKING ABOUT THE IS IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HIRING SOMEBODY, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, I DON'T THINK, UNLESS YOU GET EXTREMELY LUCKY, YOU'RE GONNA FIND SOMEONE THAT CAN DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO PART OF IT TOO IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM IT PEOPLE AT THE CITY STAFF THAT CAN DO THESE THINGS? ARE WE GONNA BE STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO BUILDING ANOTHER WEBSITE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? I'M, I'M JUST QUESTIONING WHETHER WE THINK WE CAN EVER COMPLETELY DISCONNECT FROM A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CANNON OR IF WE'D EVEN WANT TO, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THE ADVISORS, THEY DO KNOW THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY. THEY DO HAVE EVENTS AT BRIMORE, THEY HAVE THE BOOT CAMPS, THEY HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PRETTY DOGGONE HARD TO RECREATE. THEY HAVE THE WEBSITE, THEY HAVE THE MARKETING, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GET UPGRADES TO THE WEBSITE OR NEW INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE IN A MATTER OF PROBABLY HALF AN HOUR. UM, SO PART OF IT IS CAN WE REALLY FIND ONE PERSON TO DO ALL OF THAT, UH, OR WHAT CAN OUR IT STAFF DO? AND WE, I I CAN SEE WHERE YES, YOU CAN PROBABLY FIND SOMEONE TO BE THE NEXT MATT YELVINGTON, ALTHOUGH I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT PERSON IN AND OF HIMSELF [01:30:01] IS NOT AN EASY JOB TO LOCATE. I COULD BE WRONG. IT'S NOT MY SPECIALTY AT ALL. MAYBE THESE PEOPLE ARE GROWING ON TREES. I, I JUST HAVEN'T, I I I DON'T, I DON'T HANG OUT WITH THAT CROWD. UM, SO ARE YOU LEANING TOWARD OPTION ONE? NO, I'M, I, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF TRANSITIONING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO AN IN-HOUSE. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE EVER GOING TO COMPLETELY, IF WE, IF WE WANT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE CANON BRINGS TO THE TABLE, I THINK THERE'S ALL ALWAYS GONNA BE SOME COMPONENT THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR ON THAT. WELL, AND THAT, AND MAYBE THAT'S A YEAR THREE OR A YEAR FOUR, AND WE SHOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT FOR THIS COMING BUDGET. AND THAT COULD STILL WORK WITH THE OPTION THREE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. YEAH. IT'S JUST WE HAVE LESS OF AN INVESTMENT IN THE CANON BECAUSE MATT IS, OR THAT ROLE IS LESS NEEDED. YES. AS A, YOU KNOW, A GUY OR IF HE'S TRAINING, TRAINING SOMEONE ELSE AND TRANSITIONING AND, AND THIS OPTION FOUR, I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THAT JUST FOR LIKE COMPLETE THOROUGHNESS TO LIKE THROW EVERYTHING UP AGAINST THE WALL. BUT OPTION FOUR, IT KIND OF MAKES ME THINK, WELL IT'S, WE'RE NOT THAT BOUGHT INTO IT AND WE'RE DESTINED FOR FAILURE EVENTUALLY. 'CAUSE I CAN'T SEE YOU TWO BEING ABLE TO DO ALL THIS IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER YOU'RE CURRENTLY DOING, UNLESS THEY DOUBLE YOUR SALARIES AND YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK 16 HOURS A DAY. I DON'T KNOW IT, I WAS GONNA SAY, IT DOES SAY THAT IF AT ANY POINT AFTER THE MIDPOINT OF THIS YEAR THREE AGREEMENT THAT WE FEEL THAT THE FAST TRACK COORDINATOR IS EQUIPPED TO TAKE OVER FULL-TIME MANAGEMENT, UM, THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE CANON WITH 30 DAYS NOTICE TO END MATT'S ROLE. SO WHEN WE SAY, UH, WHAT WAS IT, TWO 40? UM, I MEAN THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S A MAX AMOUNT BECAUSE IT COULD BE LESS. YEAH. I MEAN IT'S SIX MONTHS INTO THIS, THE, YOU KNOW, THIS PERSON COULD BE A ROCK STAR AND WE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD END THAT, THAT RELATIONSHIP AND, AND SAVE THEM MONEY THERE. SO, UH, THERE'S, I I THAT'S A CEILING. I THINK I I WILL, I'M, I'M JUST GONNA SAY WHEN WE'VE LOOKED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS, WE'VE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING ROCK STARS IN THE PAST, SO WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL RIGHT NOW. BUT THE, IS THERE WHEN, BECAUSE WE, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT BRINGING THIS IN HOUSE. ONCE WE BRING IT IN HOUSE, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CANON IS OVER. IS THAT CORRECT? SO OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM WOULD BE OVER FOR THOSE SERVICES, IDEALLY IN A PERFECT WORLD, THEY WOULD BE ACROSS THE STREET, UM, OR OKAY. IN TOWN SOMEWHERE. YEAH. BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S YEARS AWAY WHAT I'M ASKING. KAY. KAY JUST LISTED OFF ABOUT 10 THINGS THAT THE CANNON PROVIDES THAT MATT DOES NOT PROVIDE DIRECTLY. SO MY QUESTION IS, IF WE BRING THIS IN HOUSE, DO WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE 10 THINGS THAT MATT DOES NOT CURRENTLY PROVIDE DIRECTLY? MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DO NOT, WE WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS. OPTION TWO ALLOWS US TO KEEP THAT WHILE ONBOARDING THAT PERSON IN EVENTUALLY WHILE ONBOARDING, BUT ONCE THEY'RE, ONCE THEY'RE ONBOARDED. HAYDEN, YOU GOT THE ANSWER? YES. SO OPTION TWO IS A CONTINUATION OF THOSE SERVICES SUCH AS THE WEBSITE, THE MARKETING BACKBONE THAT THE CANON PROVIDES WITH A 90 DAY OVERLAP FOR MATT HERE. OPTION THREE IS A CONTINUATION OF ALL THOSE SERVICES. MATT'S HERE JUST ALMOST AS MUCH AS HE IS NOW, AND WE HAVE THAT, THAT NEW PERSON. SO UNDER ALL OF THE OPTIONS, EXCEPT FOR OPTION FOUR, WE STILL HAVE THE CANON SUPPORT ON THE, ON THE BACKEND FOR ONE YEAR. FOR ONE YEAR. I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. IF WE DO THAT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSITION FOR YEAR THREE, BUT THE POINT OF A TRANSITION IS THAT MATT'S NO LONGER HERE. RIGHT. SO IN YEAR FOUR, WOULD WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE 10 THINGS THAT KAY MENTIONED FROM THE CANNON? I, I WOULD THINK SO. I THINK IT WOULD, IT WOULD LOOK A LOT CLOSER TO WHAT OPTION TWO LOOKS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT THE, THE CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CANNON WOULD ONLY ALLOW FOR A, A YEAR EXTENSION TO YEAR THREE. SO NO MATTER WHAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT. MY GUESS IS THE WAY THAT IT'S STRUCTURED FOR THE OPTION TWO, IT WOULD LOOK A LOT LIKE THAT, BUT A, A LITTLE BIT LESS COST BECAUSE THERE WOULDN'T BE THAT OVERLAP BUILT IN. UM, AND AND, AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WOULD NEED A NEW CONTRACT AND OPTION FOR CORRECT. TO KEEP THOSE THINGS CORRECT. SURE. BUT I IF, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S CORRECT IN THEORY, BUT IS THAT EVEN SOMETHING THAT THE CANON DOES? Y YEAH, [01:35:01] SO THEY, OKAY. THEY ACTUALLY, UM, NOT FLU. I'M THINKING PFLUGERVILLE, BUT IT'S NOT PFLUGERVILLE, UH, PEARLAND, PEARLAND INNOVATION HUB. THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S WORKING ON THERE. UM, IT IS STAFFED BY, BY PEARLAND EMPLOYEES. UM, THEY MAY HAVE SOME CANON EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT THE BACKEND AND THE, AND THE BACK CORE OF THAT PROGRAM IS FUNNELED THROUGH THE CANNON, JUST LIKE RE FAST TRACK. IF YOU GO LOOK ON THEIR WEBSITE, IT LOOKS JUST LIKE RE FAST TRACK, JUST WITH A PARA LAND FLAVOR. UM, AND, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE ENTITY. THEY HAVE A PHYSICAL LOCATION, UM, AND, AND ALL OF THAT, BUT STILL PLUGGED INTO THAT NETWORK ON THE BACK END. SO THEY'RE GETTING THAT SUPPORT. UH, THEY'RE GETTING WEBSITE SERVICES AND MARKETING PUSH AND, AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF THING AS WELL. OKAY. AND ON THE TIMING OF THE DECISION, YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK? CORRECT. HAVE YOU ALREADY MET WITH B BOARD? NO. SO, SO B BOARD WILL MEET NEXT MONDAY, THE DAY BEFORE COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL, OKAY. CORRECT. OKAY. SO, KAY, WHICH, WHICH ONE DID YOU WANT TO GO WITH? UH, OPTION TWO IS 90 DAYS AND OPTION THREE IS JUST A WHOLE YEAR. IS THAT THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM? THAT IS CORRECT. OPTION THREE WOULD BE, UH, A DECREASED HOURS FOR, SO MATT RIGHT NOW IS SITTING AT 32 HOURS A WEEK. THAT WOULD PUSH IT BACK TO THE YEAR ONE HOURS, 20 HOURS A WEEK, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. OKAY. OKAY. I AM KIND OF LIKE, UH, BONNIE AND DEVON THAT I, I THINK I LIKE OPTION THREE THE BEST. AND IF WE CAN STOP IT SOONER, I'M HAPPY TO STOP IT SOONER. BUT THAT WOULD GIVE US THE BUDGET DOLLARS IF WE NEED THEM. AND THEN IF THE TRANSITION HAPPENS IN 90 DAYS OR 180 DAYS, WE CAN SAY SO LONG, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CALL YOU ON THE PHONE WHEN WE NEED YOU, BUT WE DON'T NEED YOU OUT HERE IN PERSON ANYMORE. SO I'M, I'M, I'M HAPPY WITH THAT. AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING IN, IN REGARD TO OPTION FOUR, I'LL ALSO JUST REMIND PEOPLE THE LAST TIME WE TRIED TO DO A WEBSITE WHERE THEY SAID IT WAS GOING TO TAKE LIKE NINE MONTHS, I THINK IT TOOK ALMOST THREE YEARS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE IT STAFF THAT CAN, THAT ARE ON THE PAYROLL THAT CAN DO A WEBSITE A WHOLE LOT FASTER THAN THAT. BUT TO ME, OPTION FOUR JUST KIND OF THROWS A WRENCH INTO EVERYTHING AND IT SAYS, WE DON'T CARE IF THIS SUCCEEDS OR NOT. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS TO ME. THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY BLACK AND WHITE AND PRETTY, PRETTY DEPRESSING. BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I SEE FROM THAT. WHETHER THAT WAS THE CITY'S INTENTION OR NOT, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THAT WAS THEIR INTENTION, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. YOU'RE SAYING IT COMES ACROSS TO YOU. I, I CAN SEE PRESENTING IT JUST TO BE THOROUGH, JUST TO COVER ALL THE BASES, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT SCREAMS SUCCESS. OKAY. DID YOU GET THE, THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR? SURE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE YOUR PREFERRED OPTION? SURE. I'M NUMBER ONE. OPTION NUMBER ONE, KEEPING IN MIND, I'M, I WAS THE ORIGINAL VOICE WHO DIDN'T WANT TO DO FAST TRACK TO START WITH . UM, BUT IF MY OPINION, IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, WE DO IT. WE DON'T HAVE THE YET. AND I, UM, AND WE DO IT FOR THE THREE YEARS. I MEAN, ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, YOU CAN'T SEE ANY BENEFIT AND YOU CAN'T, ME, YOU CANNOT ACT, YOU CANNOT ACCURATELY MEASURE ROI IN LESS THAN THREE YEARS ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS. SO I, IN MY OPINION, WE CHOOSE OPTION ONE, WE KEEP DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING, AND THEN WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION A YEAR FROM NOW ON, ARE WE GOING TO, THEN WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION THAT, AND AGAIN, THIS IS COMING FROM THE ORIGINAL PERSON WHO , I, I WILL SAY, I WILL SAY THAT OPTION ONE IS A CLOSE SECOND TO OPTION THREE. I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO OPTION ONE, NEITHER WOULD I. UM, I, I THINK THAT OPTION ONE STILL GETS US DOWN THE SAME ROAD. UM, IT JUST DELAYS ANY OPTION TO BRING IT INTO THE HOUSE A YEAR. SO. [Business - F] OKAY. I REMEMBER. AND ITEM F REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET PROCESS SCHEDULE AND DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. SO, OKAY. [01:40:01] UM, SO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET PROCESS, UM, IN YOUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, THAT MID-YEAR BUDGET REPORT, UM, IT SHOULD SAY AS BUDGETED THROUGH APRIL, 2025. UM, JUST THE FINANCIALS. YEAH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE JUST THE, THE FINANCIAL REPORTS. BUT IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE A PRINTOUT OF THE 180, UM, ACCOUNT AND THE 606 0 1 AND 6 0 1. SO SIX HUNDRED AND SIX OH ONE ARE TYPE A, UM, ACCOUNTS. AND THEY USUALLY MIRROR B BOARD. BUT I HAVE, UM, IN THE NOTES COLUMN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEET, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO READ DIGITALLY, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EASIER, UM, TO HAVE PRINTOUTS. BUT, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NOTES COLUMN, ANYTHING, ANY AMOUNT, UM, THAT WAS CHANGED COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S BUDGETED AMOUNT HAS A NOTE NEXT TO IT ON WHAT IT WAS AND WHY. SO IF YOU'RE OKAY, WE CAN GO THROUGH JUST THOSE LINE ITEMS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING CHANGES ON, AND THEN YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION. UM, AND THEN I CAN TAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. UM, OR WE CAN START WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON ITEMS THAT DON'T HAVE A NOTE. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? LET'S JUST START AT THE TOP AND WORK OUR WAY DOWN. OKAY. SO I'LL START WITH, UM, SALARIES AND WAGES. SO I DO HAVE, UM, IN THESE NOTES WE HAVE PUT IN A REQUEST TO RECLASSIFY HAYDEN'S POSITION, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR TO AN E ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION. SO THE FISCAL YEAR 26 PROPOSED OF 317,134 INCLUDES THAT REQUEST PLUS A PROJECTED AMOUNT TO BRINGING THAT FULL SHARE FAST TRACK PERSON IN HOUSE, WHICH MIGHT NOT HAPPEN. AND THEN THE RECLASS POSITION IS ALSO IN DISCUSSION. SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A, A PLACEHOLDER RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WILL, THAT THAT EXACT AMOUNT WILL MOST LIKELY CHANGE. BUT WE JUST WANNA INCLUDE IT IN THERE FOR WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING. SO THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A MAXIMUM, AND IF ANYTHING IT MIGHT GO DOWN SLIGHTLY. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . AND HELP ME OUT WITH PROCESSING HERE, BECAUSE WE ARE A BOARD AND Y'ALL HAVE HR, SO IS IT, WE PAY FOR IT, BUT WHO MAKES, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE JUST CAN'T GO OUT. THE EDC BOARD CAN'T GO OUT AND HIRE FIVE PEOPLE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S A PROCESS AND SO ARE WE WAITING OR IS THIS AN HR ISSUE? IS THIS A YES, YOUR LIKE BUS EMPLOYEE MANAGEMENT ISSUE, OR LIKE HOW DOES THAT, UH, SO THE PROCESS, UM, RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, EVERY DIRECTOR, SO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE CITY. SO WE ARE CITY, FULL-TIME CITY EMPLOYEES, AND WE, UM, AS A DIRECTOR, WE PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DIRECTOR, INCLUDING THE POSITION, THE CLASSIFICATION, THE SALARY WE SUBMIT, UM, AND THEN THAT BECOMES A DISCUSSION BETWEEN HUMAN RESOURCES, UM, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SO IT HAS KIND OF THAT THREE-PRONG ASSESSMENT ON, YOU KNOW, FAIR AND, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE AND ALL OF THAT. SO THAT'S, UM, OUR BUDGET MEETING IS ACTUALLY THIS COMING WEDNESDAY WHERE WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE REQUESTS THAT THIS SAME DRAFT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE SENT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO FINANCE. AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH ALL THOSE REQUESTS. GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. SO I'LL MOVE ON, UM, DOWN TO PUBLICATIONS AND REFERENCE MATERIAL. SO WE, UM, A LOT OF THESE CHANGES ARE JUST BASED ON US TRACKING WHAT WE'RE SPENDING AND, SORRY. SURE. UM, DID, DID YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH BENEFITS IS AT ZERO? SO THOSE, I DON'T KNOW. UM, THOSE ITEMS ARE ALL PUT IN BY HR FINANCE, SO PERSONNEL, SO THE, YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW, IT MUST BE SOME KIND OF, MAYBE IT'S JUST WAITING FOR HR AND FINANCE TO ACTUALLY POPULATE IT INTO THE BUDGET, THE NUMBER SPREADSHEET, THE POPULATIONS. OKAY. PENDING POPULATIONS. OKAY. UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE GREATER THAN ZERO. UM, OKAY. , GOOD QUESTION. OKAY. SO I'LL MOVE DOWN TO PUBLICATIONS AND REFERENCE MATERIAL. WE ARE JUST REDUCING THAT ITEM BY A HUNDRED DOLLARS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SPENT THERE. UH, SAME FOR UNIFORMS AND SHIRTS, THANKFULLY [01:45:01] HAYDEN AND I HAVE EACH BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER, UM, WAIT AT A HUNDRED. UM, UH, WE ARE PRETTY WELL STOCKED UP ON OUR SUPPLIES HERE, SO WE'RE JUST, UM, REDUCING ONE 50. YEAH, THAT AMOUNT, IT, IT ACTUALLY SHOULD BE ONE 50 TOTAL. SO SORRY, THAT 300 YOU SEE ON UNIFORMS AND SHIRTS SHOULD BE ONE 50. SO WE'RE JUST CUTTING THAT IN HALF. UM, ARE WE INTENDED TO, I GUESS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT TO ASTERISK THAT LINE WHERE IF YOU ARE BRINGING ON ADDITIONAL PERSON THAT THEY MIGHT APPRECIATE YOUR SHIRT TOO? , SO YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. I'M OKAY WITH AN EXTRA $150 . UM, OKAY. I'LL KEEP MOVING DOWN FOR DUES AND MEMBERSHIPS FOR THE ORGANIZATION. AGAIN, THERE'S UM, THIS KIND OF HISTORICALLY WE'VE PAID INTO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, UM, OVER THE YEARS. THOSE KIND OF THERE, IT DEPENDS ON THE LEADERSHIP OF THE BOARD, WHAT MEMBERSHIPS YOU ALL WANNA CONTINUE. UM, SO JUST BASED ON THE MEMBERSHIPS WE HAD LAST YEAR, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE REDUCING THAT BY $2,500. CAN YOU SEND US A LIST OF WHAT WE ARE MEMBERS OF? I ASSUME IT'S THE, UM, WELL, IT USED TO BE WHATEVER THEY CALLED THE, UH, FORT BEND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL OR WHATEVER IT WAS CALLED. AND I THOUGHT MAYBE THE CHAMBER OR, BUT, AND THERE WAS THE WALLER COUNTY THING. UH, BUT CAN YOU JUST SEND US A LIST? YES, WE CAN. YEAH, I'LL SEND THE LIST. IT'S, IT'S LIKE FIVE OR SHORE REGIONAL CHAMBER, THE FORT BEND CHAMBER, THE, CAN YOU JUST SEND US THE LIST? YES, YEP, YEP, I'LL SEND IT. THANK YOU. UM, MOVING ALONG, UH, TRAVEL AND TRAINING, WE HAD THAT AT 15,000. SO AGAIN, JUST PROJECTING UPCOMING CONFERENCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. TRAININGS WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, THAT'S A REDUCTION OF 6,500 FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH JUST COMPLETING TRAININGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED TO REDO. WE'LL STILL BE ABLE TO GO TO THE BASTROP CONFERENCE IF WE WANT TO. THE BA, THE TML? YES. SO THIS IS FOR STAFF. WE STILL HAVE, UH, THAT LINE ITEM IN THE BOARD'S BUDGET SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE OPTION TO ATTEND. THOSE SPEAKERS ARE FABULOUS. THEY ARE, THEY ARE , THEY'RE PRETTY GREAT . UH, SO THAT, THAT'S IT HERE. UM, THE A SA REIMBURSEMENT WE WILL ALL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE THAT ALL CALCULATED WHEN FINANCE PROVIDES IT. SO I'LL MOVE TO THE 600 ACCOUNT AS FAR AS, UM, SALES AND USE TAX. I KNOW WE SHARED WITH YOU, THERE'S STILL NOT A NUMBER POPULATED THERE. WE'RE KIND OF USING THE 10% OVER, UM, PROJECTED ACTUAL WHY? NO, NO. THE, THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING FROM THE 600 ACCOUNT IS THE SAME. TRAVEL AND TRAINING FOR 600 IS ACTUALLY THE LINE ITEM THAT COVERS OUR BOARD MEMBERS. SO IF YOU WOULD GOT IT OPT IN FOR ANY OF THE CONFERENCES, WHEN WE SEND THOSE EMAILS, THAT'S WHAT COVERS PERFECT. THE COST OF YOU ATTENDING. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND I'M, I'M SO SORRY. I'M JUST REALIZING THAT IN THIS PRINTOUT IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T PUT ALL THE COMMENTS IN HERE. LEGAL . SORRY, JUST GIMME ONE. OKAY. SO HERE WE GO. I'LL START WITH LEGAL. SO LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE COST OF LEGAL, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE SEPARATED OUR BOARD MEETINGS. SO OUR THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THAT IF, IF IT TOOK THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TWICE A MONTH INSTEAD OF ONE, IT WOULD INCREASE. HOWEVER, WE FOUND THAT MOST OF OUR MEETINGS ARE ACTUALLY MUCH SHORTER IN LENGTH, SO IT DECREASED THE COST SIGNIFICANTLY. , SORRY, Y'ALL, Y'ALL ARE ADDING VALUE. THANK YOU. . THEY ARE AN EFFICIENT TEAM. SO WE LOWERED THAT FROM 55 TO 30,000, UM, FOR, FOR OUR LEGAL COST. AND THEN YOU'RE WELCOME. , FOR, UH, CONSULTING. WE, UM, I THINK WE, OUR INTENT HERE IS WE ALREADY HAVE A CONSULTING, ANOTHER CONSULTING LINE. SO WE JUST ZEROED THIS ONE OUT AND UM, WE'LL USE THE CONSULTING FUNDS WITHIN THE 180 ACCOUNT. UH, MEETING SECURITY, THE SAME, LEMME SEE. [01:50:02] EVENTS WILL STAY THE SAME. IT'S LIKE DUES AND MEMBERSHIP. YEAH. YEAH. DUES AND MEMBERSHIPS. SO THIS, UM, THIS ITEM JUST FOR Y'ALL TO KNOW IS, AGAIN, IT JUST MIRRORS WHAT WE ALLOW FOR STAFF. SO IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD MEMBERS OF TYPE A OR TYPE B THAT SAY, HI, COULD YOU REGISTER SO I CAN BE A MEMBER OF THE TEXAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, UM, AND KIND OF RECEIVE THOSE RESOURCES FOR YOUR EDUCATION, FOR YOU TO BE UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THINGS LIKE LEGISLATION AND SUCH. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT DOES. IF THERE ARE ANY RELEVANT ORGANIZATIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A MEMBER OF, JUST LET US KNOW. UM, BUT WE ARE, WE WE'RE JUST REDUCING THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TEND TO GET USED AS MUCH. UM, AND THEN SAME FOR TRAVEL AND TRAINING. WE, UM, HAD PREVIOUSLY BUDGET $8,000. WE'RE JUST LOWERING THAT TO 5,000. UM, A LOT OF TIMES OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE JUST NOT ABLE TO ATTEND WHATEVER THE CONFERENCES. OKAY. SO THAT COVERS THE 600 ACCOUNT. AND I'LL MOVE ON. SO 6 0 1, AND I'LL START WITH OUR, UH, TARGETED INCENTIVES. SO WE KEPT THE 50,000 JUST LIKE LAST YEAR. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. WE'VE HAD, UM, WE HAVE ACTUALLY A SECOND MEETING ON A SMALL BUSINESS GRANT POLICY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON DEVELOPING. UM, HOWEVER, IT, RIGHT NOW IT'S LOOKING LIKE THAT'LL APPLY MUCH MORE TO B BOARD THAN IT WILL TO A BOARD. UM, SO WE WILL SEND THAT OVER FOR LEGAL REVIEW TO SEE WHAT TYPES OF GRANTS WE CAN COVER WITH ABOARD AND IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. SO, UM, ALL THAT TO SAY THIS LINE, IF IT'S NOT AN ALLOWABLE EXPENSE BASED ON THAT POLICY, WE MIGHT RECOMMEND TO COMPLETELY REMOVE. IF THERE ARE CERTAIN, UM, THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED, THEN IT'LL BE UP TO YOU ON WHAT YOU WANNA SET ASIDE FOR THAT. BUT WE'RE JUST LEAVING THE 50,000 THAT YOU HAD ASKED FOR LAST YEAR AND THAT WE HAD AS A PLACEHOLDER. UM, PROMOTIONAL EXPENSES, THIS SHOWS ZERO HERE. UM, IN THE, IN THE NOTES IT SAYS THIS AMOUNT IS BASED ON 10% OF THE PROJECTED SALES TAX COLLECTIONS PLUS WHAT'S LEFT IN THIS AMOUNT THAT ROLLS OVER. SO AGAIN, WE JUST NEED TO WAIT ON THAT CALCULATION TO BE POPULATED IN THERE. IS THAT 24, 25? YEP. OH, FY YEAH. I THINK I JUST COPIED FROM THE PREVIOUS, YEP. YEP. TWICE . UM, THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT. AND THEN, UH, STUDIES EXPENSE, WE'RE JUST AGAIN GOING BASED OFF WHAT, WHAT WE USED. SO WE WENT FROM 60,000 DOWN TO 50,000 THERE. UH, THERE ARE SOME STUDIES KIND OF, THAT ARE IN DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW THAT MIGHT CAUSE THAT NUMBER TO INCREASE, BUT WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED AND, UM, SHARE THAT ON OR BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. AND THEN THE TEXAS HERITAGE PARKWAY, ILA, WHERE DID IT GO? IT'S STILL DOWN BELOW. UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT AMOUNT INCREASED TO 91,000 606 7. THAT NUMBER COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE AGREED TO SCHEDULE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY. SO WE JUST PLUGGED THAT NUMBER IN THERE. AND THEN ANY, UH, TRANSFERS OUT. THE CURRENT NUMBER THERE IS ZERO, BUT IT'S JUST, UH, IT'LL REFLECT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO. THAT WASN'T TRANSFERRED OUT THIS FISCAL YEAR, THAT MIGHT ROLL OVER OR THEY MIGHT JUST GO AHEAD AND TRANSFER IT OUT, UM, BEFORE THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR. SO WE'LL JUST SEE THAT REFLECTED IN OUR FUND BALANCE. LET'S GO THROUGH THE, AND THEN, UM, AGAIN, YOU HAVE JUST A COPY OF THE A SA FOR YOU TO BE FAMILIAR WITH AND WE WILL UPDATE. AND ON PAGE 73, IT HAS THE EXECUTION DATE. THIS IS THE COPY WE USED LAST YEAR. SO IT HAS 2024, BUT WE WILL HAVE ALL THAT UPDATED. DOES THE ACTUAL MONTHLY NUMBER SHOW UP IN HERE OR IS IT ATTACHED AS AN EXHIBIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? FOR THE A SA? YES. WHAT THE MONTHLY CHARGE IS OR WHAT THE ANNUAL CHARGE IS, WHICHEVER MIGHT BE APPLICABLE. WE, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE PACKET. IT SHOULD, IT WILL BE POPULATED IN THE BUDGET YEAH. ONCE THEY HAVE THAT CALCULATION. OKAY. SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE LIKE EXHIBIT A SAYS THIS IS WHAT THE NUMBER IS. WELL, WE HAVE THE, AND WE HAVE THE PERCENTAGE CHART, I GUESS THAT, UM, WE DO HAVE A CHART THAT GIVES [01:55:01] A PERCENTAGE AMOUNT OF WHAT GOES WHERE, WHICH WE CAN PROVIDE FOR YOU NEXT TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. AND I, I THINK THE DATE JUST NEEDS TO BE UPDATED ON PAGE FIVE. YES MA'AM. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OTHER LINE ITEMS OR ANY, ANYTHING THAT'S NOT THERE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ADD? I THINK THE ONLY REQUEST RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE OUT TO THE FINANCE TEAM IS TO INCORPORATE A LINE ITEM THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ANY, UM, FEES COLLECTED FROM THE SUBMISSIONS OF OUR, UH, APPLICATION FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN INCENTIVE. YEAH. OKAY. UM, ARE WE DONE WITH THAT ITEM? YEAH, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER FEEDBACK. EXCELLENT. WE'LL GO TO [Recurring Items - A] FOUR RECURRING ITEMS, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REPORT. OKAY. I'LL START OFF. UM, I JUST HAVE FOUR ITEMS TO UPDATE YOU ALL ON TODAY. THE FIRST IS RETAIL STRATEGIES. THEY DID SEND A REPORT FOLLOWING, UM, ICSE. UH, UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF THAT IS STILL, UM, BECAUSE IT IS IN THE WORKS, WE CAN'T SHARE EXACTLY, UM, WHAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE. BUT I WILL TELL YOU IT WAS A GREAT UPDATE. A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS WE'RE PART OF IT. UM, AS THINGS MOVE ALONG, IF THERE ARE TENANTS THAT ARE SECURED IN ANY OF OUR AVAILABLE LOCATIONS, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU'RE THE FIRST TO KNOW. UM, SO WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THAT, BUT JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THERE IS, UM, SOME COMMUNICATION HAPPENING THERE. UM, ITEM TWO FOR OUR THP MONUMENT SIGNED. SO META, WHICH IS THE REVIEWING AGENCY FOR JORDAN RANCH AND THP, LET US KNOW THAT WHILE THE BOARD GAVE THEIR FINAL APPROVAL FOR THE NEW PROPOSED LOCATION, UM, WE STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT A FORMAL APPLICATION WITH FEES. THERE'S LIKE A FOUR COMPONENTS TO THIS PROCESS. UM, ALL WITH THEIR OWN DIFFERENT FEES. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH KGA TO FOREST, WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FROM THE BEGINNING, UM, TO SEE IF THEY'RE GONNA FILL OUT THOSE FORMS AND SUBMIT IT ON OUR BEHALF. OR WE ARE JUST KIND OF WORKING THROUGH ALL THE ENTITIES TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE APPROVALS WE NEED BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT PROJECT STANDS. UM, UPCOMING EVENTS, SO I KNOW I'VE SHARED THIS WITH YOU BEFORE. UM, WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS ON , UM, WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER 11TH. AND THEN WE DID, UH, SCHEDULE THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING FOR THE FIRST SATURDAY IN DECEMBER, DECEMBER 6TH. SO JUST WANTING TO KEEP THAT THERE. AND UM, I KNOW YOU HAD REQUESTED JUST OVERALL CHRISTMAS PROGRAMMING. THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN SO FAR, WE'LL KEEP WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE REST OF, UM, OUR HOLIDAY EVENTS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS YEAR. SO WE'LL HAVE A MORE THOROUGH UPDATE FOR YOU ON THAT. AND THEN CIP PROJECT UPDATE. UM, CLIFF MENTIONED IT EARLIER, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A PHONE CALL, UM, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BRIAN PUBLIC WORKS, UH, AND THEN WE PUT TOGETHER, TIFFANY PUT TOGETHER A, UH, REPORT FOR YOU ALL. UM, THIS CONVERSATION HAPPENED LATE LAST WEEK AND SO WE, UM, WERE ABLE TO GET THIS EARLY THIS MORNING AND SEND IT OVER TO YOUR EMAILS. SO YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT YET. UM, BUT THE UPDATES FOR HARRIS STREET AND FOURTH STREET WERE ALL INCLUDED IN THE MEMO ALONG WITH THE CHART. UM, JUST KIND OF BREAKING DOWN WHAT Y'ALL ARE, WHAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN REQUESTING, THE AMOUNT OR VALUE OF THOSE CHANGE ORDERS THAT WE'VE KIND OF HEARD MENTIONED, UM, HOW, WHERE THAT MONEY HAS COME FROM, ALL OF THOSE DETAILS. SO I CAN, IF YOU WANT ME TO, I CAN READ THE UPDATE OR YOU CAN LOOK AT IT JUST GI GIVE ME THOSE QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SO THAT, UM, WE CAN ADJUST TO WHAT YOU EXPECT TO KNOW AND THE LEVEL OF DETAIL YOU WOULD LIKE. UM, AND, AND WE WILL DO THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR MY UPDATES. ITEM FOUR [Recurring Items - B] B, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, MURAL UPDATE. 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. UH, AND ONE THING THAT CHARLIE SAID TONIGHT, UM, MADE ME [02:00:01] MAKE A MENTAL NOTE. UM, I REMEMBER BACK IN 2017 WHEN THE WHOLE FM 10 93 EXPANSION WAS EITHER ON THE WAY OR GETTING DONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AT THAT TIME, I RECALL CITY COUNCIL ASKING THE EDCS TO, UH, PLEASE ANNIE UP. I THINK IT WAS 25% EACH AND THE CITY CARRIED THE OTHER REMAINING 50% OF THE COST FOR THE, FOR THE CITY SHARE OF FM TEN NINETY THREE. I RECALL THAT GOING TO EDC MEETINGS, I DON'T KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES ON AN AGENDA. AND I DO NOT THINK AN AN AGREEMENT EVER GOT SIGNED. SO THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I THINK POTENTIALLY IT FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS AND YOU MIGHT JUST WANNA TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF IT NEEDS TO BE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM OR NOT. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, BASED ON HIS ADVICE THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN AGREEMENT. SO THERE'S NO, UM, ARGUMENTS DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY. I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. OKAY. UH, ITEM FOUR [Recurring Items - C] C ANNOUNCEMENTS. ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? YES. THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF YOGA IS JUNE 14TH, SATURDAY AT IRENE STERN. UM, FOR THOSE PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT HAVE NEXT TO NO BALANCE OR FLEXIBILITY, THEY'RE HAVING CHAIR YOGA AT NINE 30 IN THE MORNING OR NINE, NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. AND THEN FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DO HAVE BALANCE AND FLEXIBILITY, THEY'RE DOING REGULAR YOGA AT 10 30. BUT, UM, THE CITY IS PARTICIPATING, THE, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS PARTICIPATING. I THINK THE, UH, INDIAN CONSULATE IS PARTICIPATING. THERE WERE, I DON'T KNOW, 150 BETWEEN THE TWO SESSIONS, PROBABLY AT LEAST 150 PEOPLE THERE LAST YEAR. SO IT'S, IT'S ALL ABOUT HEALTHY LIVING AND UM, HEALTHY EXERCISE. AND UM, SO THAT'S ANY, ANYONE AND EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ATTEND. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING. AND THE OTHER THING IS LIBERTY ON THE BRAZOS IS FRIDAY, JULY 4TH AT DAILY PARK AND YOU, YOU'RE PROBABLY, UM, WILL ADVISE TO BUY A PARKING TICKET AHEAD OF TIME ON THE FULL SHE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WEBSITE BASED ON THE TRAFFIC JAMS THEY HAD LAST YEAR. BUT THEY DO HAVE MORE PARKING THIS YEAR. THANK YOU. TONIGHT IS, UH, DEVIN, MR. DEVIN HOLMES'S LAST MEETING WITH OUR TYPE A EDC. SO WE DO HAVE A CERTIFICATE TO PRESENT HIM. THANK YOU SO MUCH, DEVIN, FOR THE YEAR THAT YOU'VE SPENT, THE TWO YEARS THAT YOU'VE SPENT, UM, JUST VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMITMENT, REVIEWING EVERY PACKET WE'VE SENT YOU AND, UM, ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS AND SHARING YOUR FEEDBACK. UM, WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE SAD TO SEE YOU GO, BUT WE UNDERSTAND. IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE. OKAY. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOVE. WE ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THE CITY IS IN ADJOURNED AT 8:33 PM ON JUNE 9TH, 2025. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.