* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] . [Call to Order] GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. IT'S FRIDAY. HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY. WE'RE CALLING TO ORDER AT 9 0 1 ON, UH, FRIDAY. AND THEN NUMBER TWO, IS THERE ANY CITIZENS COMMENTS? ANYBODY GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE? NO. ALL RIGHT. QUORUM INTRODUCTIONS. UM, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR A QUORUM? WE DO. HOW ARE YOU? YES, WE DO. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. BUSINESS [BUSINESS - A] ITEMS, A APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD NOVEMBER 8TH, 2024. LOOKS LIKE THE MOTION WAS MADE BY KIMBERLY BO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 8TH, SECOND. SECOND BY LEAH SMITH. THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY MRS. RIDGE. SO WE'RE APPROVING, WE'RE APPROVING THOSE MINUTES. OH, OKAY. JANUARY THREE, THE JANUARY 10TH MEETING. SO WE JUST APPROVED THESE MINUTES. I MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 10TH, 2025. I SECOND THE RECORDING. THE SECOND. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. NEXT PART IS, UH, CITY COUNCIL UPDATE FROM LIAISON. JASON OPPE. ANYBODY HEAR FOR A MOMENT? OH, CAN Y'ALL GO BACK TO A AND VOTE ON THE APPROVAL? SO YOU HAD THE MOTION IN THE SECOND, OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. YES. SO WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO A APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2024. THE MOTION WAS MADE BY KIMBERLY BOW TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 8TH, SECOND BY LEAH. THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY RIDGE RILEY BOW, MILLIGAN, MCCLOY, AND SMITH CORRECTION. SORRY. AND I KNOW THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, SO NO WORRIES. THE, SO YOU'RE WORKING OFF OF ITEM A, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL FOR JANUARY 10TH, WHICH WAS THE MOTION WAS MADE BY RAMONA, UM, SECONDED BY SARAH. OH, AND THEN YOU JUST NEED TO CALL FOR THE VOTE. YES. SORRY, YOU DON'T HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA. THIS ONE IS YOUR MINUTES FROM THE LAST ONE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON APPROVING. GOTCHA. SORRY. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS HELD JANUARY 10TH, 2025. AND B IS CITY COUNCIL UPDATE FROM COUNCIL ONE A. SO WE HAD A FIRST AND WE HAD A SECOND ON, UH, ACTION ITEM A. SO NOW WE ALL HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. OKAY. ALL IN AGREEMENT. ALL IN FAVOR OF AYE. WE'RE SO HAPPY YOU'RE THE CHAIR. WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU. WE'RE NOT GONNA LEAVE YOU OUT, I PROMISE. WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU. ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION PASSES. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO BACK TO B. WE'RE DOING GOOD. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT . OKAY. B CITY COUNCIL UPDATE FOR COUNCIL LIAISON. JASON OPPY. HE HAS BUSINESS MEETINGS. APOLOGIES FOR NOT LETTING US KNOW ANYTHING. I'LL LET HIM SLIDE. [BUSINESS - C] LETTER C UPDATE REGARDING THE FIELD USE OF EAGLE LANDING PARK. THANK YOU. SO AT THE, UH, AS SHARED AT THE LAST PARKS BOARD MEETING, UM, THE ITEM WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AT OUR LAST, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN JANUARY. UH, A LITTLE BIT OF POSTPONING DUE TO THE WEATHER THAT WE HAD, BUT, UM, COUNCIL, UH, MADE THE DECISION TO, UM, PROVIDE, UH, THE A RSA, WHICH IS THE RECOGNIZED SPORTS ASSOCIATION TO HTX, UH, SOCCER ORGANIZATION. SO WE WILL, UH, WORK WITH THEM. UH, WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THEM TO KIND OF GO THROUGH WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, ITS TIMELINE, UM, AND WHAT THEIR, UH, SEASON TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE. I GOT A QUESTION ON THAT. ARE THEY GONNA BE, ARE THEY GOING TO, I THINK WE NEED SOME TRANSPARENCY ON, ON HOW MUCH TIME'S ALLOCATED TO WHICH ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SPREAD OUT PRETTY MUCH EQUALLY. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU WHENEVER THEY GET TO THAT POINT? SO WHEN WE MEET, ONCE WE, UM, I, I PLAN TO MEET WITH THEM VERY SOON. IT'S SCHEDULED. I, I BELIEVE IT'S NEXT WEEK. BUT, UM, JUST TO KIND OF, UH, REINTRODUCE, WE'VE MET SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT, UM, JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE GOING, UH, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. IT'S, IT'S GOING TO LARGELY DEPEND ON, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, WHICH IS STILL ANTICIPATED FOR COMPLETION THIS SUMMER. BUT, UM, KNOWING WHAT THE, WHAT THE GRASS GROWING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND HOW LONG, UM, WE WILL NEED THE GRASS TO REST BEFORE IT CAN BE OCCUPIED. UM, AND THEN WE WILL WORK WITH THEM AS WE GET CLOSER IN KNOWING KIND OF [00:05:01] WHAT THEIR SEASON, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY PAUSE SOME, AND THEN WHAT THEY START BACK UP, UM, OR HOW THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, BASED OFF OF THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE. ONCE I KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE IS, WHEN THEIR SEASONS ARE THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND HOW ALL THAT KIND OF LINES UP, THEN WE WILL KNOW WHAT THEIR, UM, WE'LL GET INTO THEIR APPLICATION AND EVERYTHING OF, OF WHAT THEIR REQUEST IS FOR THE RENTAL. YEAH. SO A LITTLE TOO SOON. OKAY. AND I THINK THERE WAS, SOMEBODY SAID AT THE MEETING, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN YOU, UM, THERE'S WILL ALWAYS BE A FREE FEE, A FIELD THAT STAYS FREE FOR THE PUBLIC. YES. WE, THE CITY PLANS TO, UM, RESERVE UP TO TWO FIELDS, UH, FOR PUBLIC COMMUNITY USE. UM, IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT FIELD SIZES. SO, UM, ONCE A PARK COMES TO LIFE A LITTLE BIT MORE, THEN I'LL BE ABLE TO BETTER DECIDE. UM, I THINK IT'S MAYBE IMPORTANT TO KIND OF KEEP IT NEAR THE PLAYGROUND JUST FOR SO MM-HMM . FAMILIES IF, IF THEY ARE TRYING TO JUST DO AN INDIVIDUAL PRACTICE WITH THEIR CHILD OR SOMETHING, BUT THEY MIGHT HAVE A SMALLER ONE ON THE PLAYGROUND. AND SO TRYING TO KEEP ALL THOSE THINGS IN MIND, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT HOPEFULLY SERVES BEST. I LIKE IT. AND I WAS OVER THERE THE OTHER DAY, I SAID, TIFFANY, MAYBE I, I DON'T THINK I'M ALLOWED TO SEND ALL THE OTHER PARKS BOARD MEMBERS THE PHOTOGRAPHS, RIGHT. UH, FOR OPEN MEETINGS, I WOULD ADVISE NOT TO. EXACTLY. SO IF YOU WANNA SEND THEM, THE BATHROOMS LOOK REALLY GOOD. THEY'RE WELL UNDERWAY, AND THEY HAD THE LIGHTING, UH, POLES DELIVERED IN THE PARKING LOT. SO IT'S, IT'S MOVING ALONG. AWESOME. OKAY. [BUSINESS - D] D UPDATE REGARDING THE PARKS BOND. SO AT THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEETING, IT WAS, THE PARKS BOND WAS DISCUSSED, UM, AND THEN STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO COME BACK, UM, THE FOLLOWING WEEK, WHICH WAS FEBRUARY 4TH, I BELIEVE. UM, AND THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL MADE A DECISION TO CALL FOR THE BOND. UM, SO I WILL PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT PRIMROSE AND ITS SPECIFICS RELATED. UM, BUT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, YOU KNOW, [BUSINESS - E] SAY WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM SO BYRON CAN SHARE, UH, ALL THE RULES AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS OF WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT TALK ABOUT AND HOW THAT LOOKS. GOOD. MORNING BOARD. HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY. SO, UM, YES, AS YOU HEARD, UH, SINCE CITY COUNCIL HAS ORDERED THE ELECTION FOR MAY 3RD, UH, ON THE BOND, UM, IT HAS BECOME, UM, KIND OF RELEVANT FOR US TO DISCUSS WHAT, UH, THE LAW PERMITS AND PROHIBITS YOU FROM SAYING AND DOING, UH, REGARDING THE BOND. UM, AND THE REASON FOR THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT THERE'S A STATUTE IN THE ELECTIONS CODE. IT'S FOUND AT, UM, 2 5 5 0.003 OF THE ELECTIONS CODE, WHICH IS TITLED UNLAWFUL USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS FOR POLITICAL ADVERTISING. UM, I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SENT THE, UH, SLIDE DECK FROM OUR, UH, BOND COUNCIL, MCCALL, PARKER , AND, UM, HORTON. SO THEY HAVE, UH, DISTILLED IT INTO LAYMAN'S TERMS VERY GOOD IN THIS PRESENTATION AND GIVEN SOME, UH, KIND OF EXAMPLES. BUT I'M GONNA READ THROUGH YOU WHAT THE STATUTE ACTUALLY SAYS, AND THEN, UM, ADVISE YOU AS TO WHAT THE ETHICS COMMISSION HAS INTERPRETED THE STATUTE TO MEAN. UM, SO YOU GET KIND OF AN IDEA OF, OF WHERE THE, UM, THE ISSUES ARE. SO, UH, THE STATUTE SAYS THAT AN OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OF A PUBLIC SUBDIVISION, LIKE THE CITY, UM, MAY NOT KNOWINGLY SPEND OR AUTHORIZE THE SPENDING OF PUBLIC FUNDS FOR POLITICAL ADVERTISING. NOW, YOU GUYS ARE VOLUNTEERS. YOU'RE NOT REALLY OFFICERS OR EMPLOYEES. UM, BUT BECAUSE, UM, EXISTENCE AND YOUR, YOUR, UM, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AUTHORIZED BY OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES, IT'S KIND OF DERIVATIVE. SO, UM, THE SAME PROHIBITIONS THAT WOULD APPLY TO THEM, I WOULD SAY, UM, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER TO APPLY TO YOU. SO, UM, THE QUESTIONS HERE ARE PUBLIC FUNDS AND POLITICAL ADVERTISING. SO THERE'S A DEFINITION OF POLITICAL ADVERTISING, UM, AND THAT IS IN, UM, 2 5, 1 0.01 OF THE ELECTIONS CODE SAYS, POLITICAL ADVERTISING MEANS A COMMUNICATION SUPPORTING OR OPPOSING A CANDIDATE FOR NOMINATION OR ELECTION TO A PUBLIC OFFICE OR OFFICE OF A POLITICAL PARTY, A POLITICAL PARTY, A PUBLIC OFFICER, OR IN THIS CASE A MEASURE THAT IN RETURN FOR CONSIDERATION IS PUBLISHED IN NEWS. SO YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. UM, SO IS PUBLISHED IN A NEWSPAPER, MAGAZINE, OR OTHER PERIODICAL, OR IS BROADCAST BY RED OR TELEVISION, OR APPEARS IN A PAMPHLET, CIRCULAR FLYER BILLBOARD OR OTHER SIGNED BUMPER STICKER, OR SIMILAR FORM OF WRITTEN COMMUNICATION OR ON AN INTERNET WEBSITE. SO THE WAY THE ETHICS OPINION, UH, THE ETHICS COMMISSION IS INTERPRETED, THIS IS BASICALLY, UH, ALMOST ANYTHING, ANY COMMUNICATION THAT CAN BE REPRODUCED. SO IF IT'S WRITTEN, IT CAN BE COPIED, PASTED, OR XEROXED. UH, IF IT'S A, UM, A RECORDING, A VOICE RECORDING THAT CAN BE BROADCAST ON THE RADIO, UH, OR LINKED TO ON THE INTERNET, UH, OR OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S POSTED ON THE INTERNET. SO, UM, ALMOST ANY REPRODUCIBLE FORM OF COMMUNICATION, UM, IF IT'S, IF IT'S, UM, UH, PUBLISHED BY, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION, IF YOU, IF YOU PAY TO PUBLISH IT, THEN IT'S POLITICAL ADVERTISING. UM, SO THE OTHER QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS? THE ETHICS COMMISSION HAS INTERPRETED THAT TO MEAN BASICALLY NOT JUST THE [00:10:01] SPENDING OF MONEY. SO NOT JUST CREDIT CARDS, CHECKS AND CASH, BUT THE USE OF ANYTHING THAT IS A PUBLIC RESOURCE. SO, UM, THERE ARE ETHICS OPINIONS THAT SAY, USE OF A COPY MACHINE IS USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, EVEN IF YOU'RE PROVIDING YOUR OWN PAPER, WHICH ONE OF THE ETHICS OPINIONS ADDRESSED, EVEN IF YOU'RE USING PRIVATELY PURCHASED PAPER, THE, UH, THE MACHINE ITSELF HAS WEAR AND TEAR. IT'S USING TONER AND ELECTRICITY PAID FOR. SO, UH, THE ETHICS OPINION PROHIBITS THAT. UM, AND ALSO PERSONNEL TIME IS, UH, PUBLIC FUNDS. SO, UM, IF YOU'RE, UM, HAVING SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ON THEIR, ON THEIR PAID WORK TIME, UH, THAT'S, UH, POLITICAL ADVERTISING THAT'S ALSO PROHIBITED. UH, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN IS WHAT IS NOT PROHIBITED. UH, SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT YOU ALL HAVE A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT? AND BECAUSE YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING, UH, IN PUBLIC SERVICE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO ADVOCATE YOUR, UH, PUBLIC, YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN STILL, UH, SPEAK AND DO POLITICAL ADVERTISING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY. SO IF YOU, UM, GO AND TALK TO PEOPLE ON YOUR OWN, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT REPRESENTING YOURSELF AS SPEAKING FOR THE CITY OR FOR THE PARKS COMMISSION, UM, YOU SHOULD BE, UH, NOT VIOLATING THIS, THIS STATUTE THERE. UM, AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE USING ENTIRELY YOUR OWN RESOURCES TO, TO CIRCULATE ANY KINDA MATERIALS, THEN THAT WOULD BE FINE. UM, AND I OFTEN GET ASKED WHAT, UH, POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES CAN DO SAME KIND OF THING WHERE, UM, THEY'RE PROHIBITED FROM USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS. SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE ENTIRELY INDEPENDENT AND, AND PRIVATELY FUNDED, AS LONG AS THEY COMPLY WITH THE LAWS FOR POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES, LIKE, UH, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO REGISTER AND REPORT. SO AS LONG AS A POLITICAL POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE, UM, IS ENTIRELY SEPARATE FROM THE CITY, UH, IT CAN GENERALLY DO POLITICAL ADVERTISING AND NOT VIOLATE THE STATUTE. UM, A COUPLE OF THE THINGS WITH THE STATUTE IS, UM, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET KIND OF A PRE-CLEARANCE OPINION FROM THE COMMISSION. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, BACK WHEN THE CITY HAD AN ELECTION FOR THE, UH, ADOPTION OF THE HOME RULE CHARTER, UH, THE CITY WANTED TO PUT OUT KIND OF A, A PAMPHLET WITH LIKE A Q AND A FORMAT, INFORMATIONAL, UM, UH, BROCHURES. SO, UM, AS I RECALL, THAT WAS SENT TO THE, UH, THE, UH, ETHICS COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL OF THAT BEING EITHER, YOU KNOW, STRICTLY INFORMATIONAL, UH, OR, OR ADVOCATING FOR THE PASSENGER FAILURE OF MEASURE. SO, UM, THEY DETERMINED THAT IT WAS, UM, INFORMATIONAL ENOUGH WHERE IT DIDN'T VIOLATE THE STATUTE, SO WE WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT. UM, SO THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UH, INFORMATIONAL, UM, COMMUNICATION. SO IF YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE BOND WOULD FUND, UM, WHAT THE, UH, TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT IS, STRICTLY FACT FACTUAL INFORMATION THAT DOESN'T ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST A MEASURE IS PERMISSIBLE. UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S KIND OF AN EYE OF THE BEHOLDER ISSUE AS TO WHETHER YOU'RE ADVOCATING AND, AND YOUR, UM, PRESENTATION FROM, UM, PARKER SAYS THAT, UH, MCCALL PARKHURST, UM, IT HAS A FEW EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE COMMISSION HAS TREATED AS BEING ADVOCATING RATHER THAN INFORMATIONAL. AND SOMETIMES IT'S A VERY FINE LINE. UM, SO IF THERE'S EVER A COMMUNICATION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO, TO PUBLISH, UH, USING PUBLIC FUNDS, THEN UM, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND KIND OF GIVE YOU MY OPINION. BUT THE LAW ONLY GIVES YOU AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE FOR VIOLATING THE STATUTE IF YOU'RE LYING ON A COURT OPINION, AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION, OR AN OPINION, A PLEA PRE-CLEARANCE OPINION FROM THE, UH, THE COMMISSION. UM, SO EVEN IF I DON'T THINK IT'S, UM, VIOLATING THE STATUTE, IF, IF IT TURNS OUT THAT IT IS, THEN THAT'S NOT AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE. SO, UM, AGAIN, THE EASIEST THING I CAN SAY IS AS LONG AS YOU'RE DOING ANYTHING ON YOUR TIME WITH YOUR RESOURCES, YOU'RE, UH, YOU'RE ALMOST ALWAYS GOOD AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT BEING, UH, FRAUDULENT. SO THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER PROHIBITION, UM, OR EVEN IF YOU'RE BEING INFORMATIONAL, SO YOU'RE NOT VIOLATING THE STATUTE BY, BY PUBLIC, UM, I'M SORRY, BY ELECTION AND ADVERTISING, POLITICAL ADVERTISING, UH, YOU STILL CANNOT MAKE, UM, COMMUNICATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE FALSE AND, UM, MAY INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION. SO, UM, OF COURSE YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON YOUR, UH, PERSONAL TIME EITHER. SO THAT'S A SEPARATE, UH, VIOLATION OF THE STATUTE. SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE, UM, SANDBOX HERE. AND, UM, THE EXAMPLES THAT THE PRESENTATION GO THROUGH, SOME OF THOSE ARE DIRECTLY FROM ETHICS OPINIONS, AND THEN SOME OF THEM ARE KIND OF READING BETWEEN THE LINES AND COMING UP WITH, UH, WITH, UM, EXAMPLES, UH, THAT MAYBE HAVE NOT BEEN SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED BY THE ETHICS COMMISSION, BUT KIND OF COME CLOSE. SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF MY PRESENTATION. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY, ME TOO. YES. UM, SO IF ONE IS THE ADMIN OF A SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE AND THEY APPROVE A POST FROM SOMEONE ELSE TO BE POSTED ON THAT PAGE, DOES THAT COUNT IF THE APPROVAL IS COMING FROM OFFICIAL CAPACITY? SO IF, IF THE PAGE ITSELF IS SORT OF AN OFFICIAL PAGE, OR IF THE PERSON IN APPROVING IS ACTING IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY, UH, THEN THAT LIKELY WOULD, WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, PUBLIC FUNDS AND OBVIOUSLY SHARING SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE POSTED WOULD COUNT AS WELL, LIKELY, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . SO IF YOU WILL HUMOR ME, I'M GONNA WALK US DOWN JUST A HYPOTHETICAL, JUST SO THAT OKAY. WE ARE ALL CLEAR. [00:15:01] SO, IN THE CAPACITY THAT WE ARE TODAY, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE UTILIZING PUBLIC FUNDS FOR THE ELECTRICITY FOR THE PAPER, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTING IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS PARKS AND REC COMMISSION. THIS WOULD NEED TO STAY INFORMATION ONLY 'CAUSE WE'RE IN THAT CAPACITY WEARING THAT HAT, CORRECT? WELL, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR DELIBERATION AND WHAT'S COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC IS ADVERTISING. SO THERE ARE ETHICS OPINIONS THAT BASICALLY SAY, UM, IF ON THE DAIS YOU'RE DISCUSSING THE MERITS OF A BOND, WHETHER, UM, USING IT FOR THIS PROJECT OR THAT PROJECT WOULD BE BETTER AND WHY, AND THAT KIND OF THING, THAT DISCUSSION, AND EVEN ITS PUBLICATION ON THE WEBSITE, IF THAT'S THE CITY'S CUSTOM, LIKE I THINK WE'RE BROADCASTING NOW MM-HMM . UM, THAT IS NOT GONNA BE CONSIDERED, UH, PUBLIC ADVERTISING BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF YOUR OPERATING IN A, IN, UM, A TYPICAL FASHION OF DELIBERATION. FAIR. SO, UM, BUT IF WE GOT INTO THE DISCUSSION OF THE UPCOMING ELECTION, AND IF WE WERE FOR OR AGAINST THAT ELECTION, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED INAPPROPRIATE AS PERSUASIVE CONVERSATION, CORRECT? IT COULD BE. UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS STATUTE ISN'T MEANT TO, TO STYMIE YOUR, YOUR OFFICIAL BUSINESS AND DELIBERATION AS A, AS A COMMISSION. SO AS LONG AS YOU ARE DISCUSSING, UM, LEGITIMATE BUSINESS THAT, THAT YOU TAKE ACTION ON, UM, IT, IT COULD BE SEPARATE FROM, UH, POLITICAL ADVERTISING, BUT IF YOU'RE JUST DISCUSSING THE MERITS OF SOMETHING KIND OF WITH THE INTENTION THAT IT BE ON THE WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE TO FIND, THAT PROBABLY DOES COST A CROSS. GOTCHA. AND THEN WHEN WE ARE OUTSIDE OF THIS CAPACITY AND WE'RE STANDING IN OUR DRIVEWAY, AND WE'RE NOT ACTING IN ANY SORT OF CAPACITY, WE'RE JUST ACTING AS A RESIDENT CITIZEN OF FULCHER, WE CAN SAY WHATEVER WE WANT BECAUSE THE TEXAS, TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION ENCOURAGES YOU TO DO AS SUCH. CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. SO YOUR FREE SPEECH, RIGHT? POLITICAL SPEECH IS KIND OF THE MOST PROTECTED FORM OF FREE SPEECH. UM, SO YOU'RE, AS LONG AS YOU'RE ACTING IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY, UM, AS, AND YOU'RE NOT BEING FRAUDULENT OR DECEITFUL, THEN, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH FREE AND CLEAR. SO IF I WAS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND I SAID, I, KIMBERLY BO INSERT MY OPINION, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. BUT IF I SAID, I KIMBERLY BEAU AS VICE CHAIR OF PARKS AND REC, THAT'S WHERE I NEED TO KEEP IT INFORMATIONAL ONLY, RIGHT? YEAH. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WEARING THE APPROPRIATE HAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT OF A SLIPPERY SLOPE. MM-HMM . UM, BUT I THINK YOU ADDRESSED THIS, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S SUPER CLEAR IF OUTSIDE OF THIS, SAY I WANTED TO START A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE MM-HMM . THAT WAS ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST THIS BOND, BUT IN THAT CAPACITY, I AM SPEAKING AS KIMBERLY BOSE CITIZEN. THAT IS PERFECTLY FINE. I JUST CAN'T ATTACH VICE CHAIR PARKS OF, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. AND ONE OF THE THING IS THAT, THAT THE ETHICS COMMISSION GETS VERY, VERY, UM, KIND OF IMPLICIT AS TO WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY. SO IF YOU'RE ON YOUR DRIVEWAY TALKING TO SOMEONE AND YOU SAY, I SUPPORT THIS OR I OPPOSE THIS USING, I WOULD PROBABLY BE OKAY. BUT IF YOU START SAYING WE, THEN THE BOARD WOULD SAY, WELL, NOW YOU'RE IMPLYING OFFICIAL CAPACITY. MM-HMM . UNLESS YOU REPRESENT A PATCH WE, WHICH WE CAN SEE A FULL SURE PARKS AND RECREATION. RIGHT. ANY OF THOSE WORDS. RIGHT. SO THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S, UNLESS DUSTIN IS STANDING RIGHT THERE, YOU CAN SAY IT'S WE. YEAH. DUSTIN AND I, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, UM, AND SORRY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR AS DAY ON WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG ON THE ETHICS SIDE, IF WE WERE TO ATTEND A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND STAND UP TO SPEAK AS A RESIDENT, WE COULD SAY IN THAT TIMEFRAME, WHATEVER WE WANTED TO PER OUTLINE BY THE RULES, AS LONG AS WE ARE TALKING IN A CITIZEN CAPACITY. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. BYRON, FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, UM, LIKE IN OUR NEXT ITEM, HOW WE ALWAYS HAVE THE, UM, UPDATES FOR THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS SINCE MM-HMM . UM, PRIMROSE IS A PROJECT THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED POTENTIALLY FOR THE BOND, IS THAT, HOW DOES THAT, FROM A STAFF STAND STANDPOINT OF WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT SHARE, LIKE, CAN I STILL DO MY NORMAL MONTHLY UPDATE OF WHERE IT STANDS AND, AND WHAT WE'RE PROGRESSING THROUGH DESIGN OR YEAH. AMPHITHEATER, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS AROUND THAT PHASE. YEAH. SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE, UM, ORDINARY DELIBERATION KIND OF EXCEPTION TO POLITICAL ADVERTISING. SO, UM, AS LONG AS IT'S A LEGITIMATE AGENDA ITEM THAT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA, EVEN IF THE BOND WERE NOT REALLY CALLED OR ANYTHING. SO, UM, YOU'RE STILL FREE TO DISCUSS AND EVEN, EVEN THE DISCUSSION CAN EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO SAY IF THE BOND PASSES, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD DO, AND IF NOT, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD DO OTHERWISE. SO, UM, YOU CAN EVEN KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE, UH, SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF THE BOND. UH, BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ENTIRELY, UH, GERMANE TO THE, THE DELIBERATION OF THE BOARD HERE AND NOT, NOT REALLY KIND OF, UM, A PRETENSE FOR JUST GETTING THE DISCUSSION OUT THERE. OKAY. AND THEN FOR FUTURE AGENDAS, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST THAT, UM, AFTER THIS POINT OF SHARING THE RULES THAT WE JUST KIND OF DON'T HAVE THE BOND UPDATE ANYMORE AND WE JUST FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL PROJECT UPDATE AND WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, THAT WOULD BE ADVISABLE. YES. OKAY. [00:20:01] THANK YOU, SIR. AND I WOULD JUST ADD, I, IS IT FEBRUARY 4TH WHEN THE BOND WAS CALLED? IS THAT THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING? YES, MA'AM. I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE RECORDING TO DO SO, IT'S, IT WAS REALLY INSIGHTFUL TO HEAR, UM, CITY COUNCIL JUST DISCUSS IT IN ITS ENTIRETY BEFORE IT WAS TRULY CALLED. AND KIND OF SOME OF THE THOUGHTS AND SOME OF THE IDEAS, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, THE ACTUAL MOUNT, ALL THAT FUN STUFF. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T, IT, IT WAS A REALLY SHORT MEETING, I, I WOULD JUST SAY IT'S PROBABLY IN OUR BEST INTEREST JUST TO LISTEN TO IT TO HEAR THAT. UM, AND THEN JUST MOVING FORWARD, CLEARLY WE'RE ALL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT PARKS OR ELSE WE WOULDN'T BE SERVING IN THIS VOLUNTEER CAPACITY, BUT WHEN IN DOUBT, SPEAK FROM YOUR HEART AND AS YOURSELF AND YOU CAN'T GET IN TROUBLE, UH, JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT INSERTING ANYTHING ABOUT THE CITY PARKS AND REC OR YOUR POSITION. THAT'S VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? SURE. ON TO THE NEXT PART. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [BUSINESS - F] THANK YOU. UM, IN YOUR, UM, ITEMS FOR, FOR YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE, UM, A DOCUMENT THAT HAS THE FRANCIS SMART PARK, UM, AS WELL AS THE IRENE STERN PARK. UM, BOTH OF THOSE ARE UPDATES FROM THE LAST TIME THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. YOU ALL PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK AND, UM, SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED. THERE'S STILL SOME, SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING TO KIND OF IRON OUT. UM, BUT OVERALL THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE LANDED. UM, AND IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS ON FEBRUARY 18TH, NEXT TUESDAY. UM, SO IT, UM, THEY'LL SEE THESE TWO PROJECTS, BESSIE'S CREEK IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PACKET AND THAT'S 'CAUSE WE'RE, UM, STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME THINGS THERE. AND SO WE'RE JUST NOT READY AT A POINT, UM, TO HAVE AN UPDATED RENDERING OR CONCEPT. UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE MISSED OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU THESE UPDATED, UH, CONCEPTS AND UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT IT WILL BE ON THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UM, TIFFANY, I JUST WONDER, I KNOW, UM, I'VE HAD QUITE A FEW REQUESTS FOR A SKATE PARK, SMALL SKATE PARK, OBVIOUSLY INSTANCE. HOW BIG IS THAT AREA ON THE, UH, STERN PARK IN THE BACK? THAT NEW LAND THAT, UM, CROSS CREEK HAS JUST GIVEN US? LIKE WHERE THE SWINGS ARE OR SOMETHING? MM-HMM . COULD THAT, IS THAT LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE A SMALL SORT OF SKATE PARK AREA? I AM NOT SURE ON THE SIZING. UM, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE, UM, SURVEY HERE FOR, I KNOW IT'S TWO ACRES THAT THEY WERE GIVING US. UNLESS THAT'S CHANGED. THAT'S, BUT THAT'S, UM, I MEAN THAT'S LARGELY KIND OF FROM BEHIND THE EXISTING, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER, RIGHT. THAT TRIANGULAR PIECE, SO RIGHT. IF YOU KNOW, THAT'S CURRENTLY FROM THE LAST FEEDBACK OCCUPIED, UM, WITH THE THINGS, BUT I, I WAS TRYING TO FIND ON THE SURVEY WHERE THE, UM, SKATE PARK, IT HAD A 0.42%, UM, FEEDBACK FOR WHAT OR THE TOP THREE FEATURES THAT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN EXISTING OR FUTURE PARKS. BUT I DON'T THINK THEY WERE ASKED ABOUT SWINGS, WERE THEY, UH, PLAYGROUNDS GO WITH THAT. WELL, YOU'VE GOT A PLAYGROUND THERE. UM, SO THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND THAT'S THERE ON THIS CONCEPT, UM, DUE TO THE TIME AND, AND ALL OF THAT, THAT'S, UM, KIND OF WHERE THE BASKETBALL COURT IS. SO THE SWINGS AND UH, THE FEEDBACK Y'ALL PROVIDED LAST TIME WAS THAT IT, YOU WANTED IT TO NOT BE A TRADITIONAL PLAYGROUND. RIGHT. UM, BUT HAVE SOME OF THE OBSTACLES AND LOG CLIMBERS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THAT'S WHAT'S, UH, BACK THERE. BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. YOU HAVE THE LOG CLIMBERS AND OBSTACLE COURSE, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE SWING. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'VE GOT THE LOG CLIMBERS AND THE OB OBSTACLE COURSE AS A PLAYGROUND. YOU'VE GOT THE OPEN PLAY AREA THAT KIDS LOVE AND IF THAT SWING AREA COULD BE SMALL SKATE PARK, I JUST CAN'T TELL HOW LARGE IT IS FROM THE RENDERING. I DON'T THINK THERE'D BE ENOUGH SPACE THERE FOR SKATE, BUT I THINK IT'S A, AN AMENITY THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND FOR LIKE FUTURE PLANNING. BUT JUST WHERE THOSE SWINGS ARE, I DON'T THINK THERE'D BE ENOUGH SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. WELL THEY'RE GIVING, I MEAN IT'S BEEN ON COMING FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS NOW THAT THAT WAS, THEY WERE GIVING US TWO ACRES. SO I'M THINKING THAT'S THE TWO ACRES, UNLESS IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE MOUNT, IT IS THAT, THAT TRIANGULAR PIECE IS THE LAND THAT WAS GIVEN THAT'S CURRENTLY JUST WOODED. I, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ACREAGE IT IN PAST IT WAS TWO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGED. IS THE DETENTION, UM, UM, JUST REGULAR DIRT OR THAT LIKE A CONCRETE SITUATION. COULD YOU DO SOMETHING WHERE IT WAS A CON LIKE A DULL PURPOSE SPACE, LIKE A RETENTION TRUE PLUS CONCRETE? WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. I MEAN THIS IS JUST [00:25:01] CONCEPTUAL SO THAT THE, THOSE ASPECTS WOULD BE SOMETHING THROUGH DESIGN. YEAH. OTHER THING I WOULD THINK ABOUT WOULD BE SAFETY FOR A SKATE PARK CLOSE TO LIKE THE KIDS PLAYING RIGHT THERE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING REALLY FAST WHEN THEY'RE SKATING AND IF THE KID WANDERS OUT ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE PRETTY DANGEROUS IF IT'S THAT CLOSE TO LIKE A GENERAL KIDS PLAY AREA. JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. YEAH. ALSO IT SITS ALSO IN THE BACK CORNER OF THE PARK ALSO FROM WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WE WANNA HAVE A GOOD LINE OF SIGHT IF THE, THE SKATE PARK IS PREDOMINANTLY USED BY OLDER KIDS. IS THAT GOOD TO BE BACK IN THE CORNER LIKE THAT? THERE'S ONE IN NORTH KATY, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE PARK. I'VE BEEN THERE. THEY NEED A LOT OF SPACE 'CAUSE THEY REALLY SKATED THROUGH THERE AND THEY NEED A LOT OF, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE ENOUGH SPACE WITHOUT TAKING AWAY THE OPEN PLAY AREA OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THAT WOULD, I JUST, HAVING BEEN TO THAT ONE, IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH ROOM IN THIS PLAN. I DON'T THINK IT'D BE ANY BIGGER THAN THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD SKATE AROUND. AND I LIKE YOUR IDEA, THE DETENTION POND, IF YOU CEMENT IT IN THERE YOU GO. THERE'S A SKATEBOARD. YEAH. IT'S LIKE SKATING IN AN EMPTY POOL. YEAH. YOU KNOW? YEAH. IN THE EIGHTIES. JUST IN FAIRNESS THOUGH, THIS PLAN DOES REPRESENT THE FEEDBACK WE GAVE AT THE LAST MEETING. SO I DID JUST WANNA VALIDATE THAT THEY INCORPORATED WHAT WE SUGGESTED AT THE LAST ONE. I DO THINK THE SKATE PARK POTENTIALLY, OR THE SKATING FEATURE COULD GO IN TENSION AS YOU REFINE THE CONCEPT OR PERHAPS MAYBE BESSIE'S CREEK PARK AS THAT COMES ALONG. UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S GOOD JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THE VARIETY OF THINGS WE'RE OFFERING THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD JUST BE HESITANT TO TRY TO SQUEEZE IT IN THAT BACK CORNER OR READJUST THIS PLAY AREA. 'CAUSE IT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE FEEDBACK WE GAVE. I MEAN, JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. BUT IT'S A GOOD AMENITY TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH FOR TEENAGERS, FOR THE OLDER KIDS. WE'VE GOT PLAYGROUNDS AND POCKET PARKS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS FOR THE YOUNGER KIDS. WE JUST DON'T HAVE MANY THINGS FOR THE OLDER KIDS. BASKETBALL'S A GOOD START, BUT THAT WILL ALSO BE TAKEN BY ADULTS. SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE KIDS, OLDER KIDS. ARE YOU READY? ALL RIGHT. ONTO, I'M SORRY, DAX TO DO THIS. ARE WE GIVING FEEDBACK ON FRANCIS PARK, ON THE PRIMROSE PARK ON ALL OF THESE PARKS? OR WHICH ONE ARE WE IN? THIS JUST THE, UH, FRANCIS AND IRENE FOR THIS ITEM. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE PERME PAVERS IN GOOD FOR GOOD. THAT THAT'S PART OF SOME THINGS THAT WE STILL HAVE TO IRON OUT. UM, I ASKED THEM IF THERE WERE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT SITE, UM, AND THEY PROVIDED IT BACK WITH THE PERMEABLE PARKING. SO I, THE IT THEY HAVEN'T, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH IF THERE ARE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS. 'CAUSE IF THERE ARE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS, THEN THAT WOULD CHANGE SOME THINGS. I KNOW. UM, THEY WORK REALLY WELL. IF, YOU KNOW TINIES COOKIES IN HOUSTON AND MEMORIAL RIVER OAKS AND THEN WABASH FEED THEIR, THEIR PARKING LOTS ALL HAVE PERMEABLE FAVORS. AND I WONDERED WHEN THEY PUT THEM IN, HOW THEY HOLD UP AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS NOW AND THEY LOOK GREAT. SEEMED EASY TO MAINTAIN. OKAY. READY. SO, UH, THINK FOR THE UPDATE ON THE MASTER [BUSINESS - G] PLAN AND THE NEXT IS GONNA BE PARK DEVELOPMENT UPDATES. THE ART BOX PROJECT. YEAH. SO, UM, AFTER THE LAST PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KNAPE SPOKE TO ME ABOUT THE ART BOX PROJECT AND I SHARED, UM, THE EMAILS AND THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT I HAVE HAD WITH TXDOT, UH, THROUGH SOME TIME. AND, UM, SO HE WAS ABLE TO FIND A CONTACT THAT HE WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE AND REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY DIFFERENT. AND WITH THAT, UM, THEY HAVE EMAILED BACK STATING THAT IT IS APPROVED. UM, THEY DID NOT SIGN OUR AGREEMENT. AND UH, SO WHAT WE DID ADDITIONALLY WAS WORK THROUGH, UM, HOW THAT AGREEMENT WOULD BE SIGNED. IT'S THEIR AGREEMENT, SO HOW THAT WOULD BE SIGNED. UM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH THAT. BUT FOR NOW, THEY SAID THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THE, UH, EMAIL AS APPROVAL. SO I HAVE, UM, REACHED OUT TO MISS EVANGELINE WITH THE, UH, RE ARTS ALLIANCE AND UM, WE'RE WORKING TO KIND OF GET, UM, A MEETING SCHEDULED AND KIND OF SEE THIS KICKED OFF AGAIN, UM, THROUGH THE, UH, OTHER AGREEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR, TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT WE'RE GONNA USE THE ART THAT WE ALREADY VOTED ON, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. YES. THAT'S AWESOME. HUGE UPDATE. . YEAH, I THINK LONG TIME COMING, IF YOU CAN GET APPROVED WITH ONE, YOU MAY, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT EASIER TO GET APPROVED WITH MORE. YEAH, I THINK THE HARDEST THAT'S, THAT'S THE HURDLE IS GETTING THE, THE APPROVAL WITH, UH, SO THAT'S GREAT. UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD? TAKE A PICTURE NEXT TO IT WHEN IT COMES UP HERE. UH, EAGLE LANDING PARK. YES. ANOTHER UPDATE ON THAT. I THINK WE ALREADY DID. MM-HMM [00:30:01] . GET MIND. OKAY. JUST KIND OF TOUCH BASE. IT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, AS MR. RAMONA SAID, IT IS PROGRESSING AND THE CONCESSION STAND IS, UH, CONTINUING. UM, YOU'LL SOON LIKELY SEE SOME STONE GO UP AROUND THE CONCESSION AND RESTROOM BUILDING. UM, AND THE, THE LIGHTING HOPEFULLY FOR THE FIELD. WE'LL GO IN SOON. UM, AND UH, I SAID LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY THE SUMMER COMPLETION. EXCITING. GREAT. VERY EXCITING. UM, PRIMROSE PARK, PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE. YES. SO, UH, LAST WEEK I BELIEVE IT WAS ALL THE WEEKS ARE RUNNING TOGETHER . UM, BUT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD GROUNDBREAKING, UM, WE HAD VERSUS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD IT SCHEDULED. UH, THE WEATHER FOR WHEN WE HELD IT WAS GREAT. UM, I KNOW SOME OF YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE AND, UH, I DO APOLOGIZE. NAVIGATING A LOT OF PEOPLE AND SCHEDULES IS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING, BUT, UM, I THINK WE HAD A REALLY GREAT, UH, EVENT. WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT, GREAT WEATHER. AND UM, THEY ARE, UH, THE PARK IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED. IT'LL REMAIN CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC, UH, WHILE IT IS IN CONSTRUCTION. UM, WE DID PUT SOME STUFF OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THAT. UM, THAT WAS THE DAY OF THE GROUNDBREAKING. SO FEEL FREE TO GO FIND THAT POST AND SHARE IT. UM, IF THAT, YOU KNOW, ON ANY OF THE COMMUNITY PAGES OR HOWEVER YOU MAY LIKE TO. UM, BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, SOON SEEING SOME PROGRESSION. UNFORTUNATELY THE RAIN WE'VE HAD THIS WEEK JUST HASN'T BEEN, UH, IN FAVOR OF REALLY STARTING CONSTRUCTION, BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE SOME, UH, PROGRESSION SOON. I HAVE A QUESTION, TIFFANY, OR HAVE YOU ALL PUT OUT, YOU SAID YOU PUT SOMETHING OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT WAS THE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY, RIGHT? THERE WAS ONE FOR THE PARK BEING CLOSED. DO WE HAVE ONE? UH, I'D, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SHARE THAT SECONDLY MM-HMM . I SAW THAT ALL OF THE BOULDERS THAT WE BOUGHT AS SEATING MM-HMM . WERE JUST LINED UP ALONG THE TRAIL. MM-HMM . THOSE, THOSE ARE, THEY THEY WERE PUT THERE WHILE IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT JUST YES. BECAUSE PART OF WHERE THE TRAIL IS, UM, IT WILL HAVE TO BE MODIFIED SOME. SO THOSE WERE IN THE WAY AND THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT UM, THE CITY AGREED TO TO SAVE MONEY WITH THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR THAT WE WOULD DO OURSELVES BEFORE, UH, CONSTRUCTION STARTED. SO, UH, WHEEL STOPS, UM, THE BOULDERS FOR THE, UH, AROUND THE TRAIL AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS, REMOVING SIGNAGE AND SUCH WERE PART OF WHAT WE WERE TO DO BEFORE CONSTRUCTION STARTED. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . CAN YOU REMIND ME THE ESTIMATED, UM, COMPLETION OF PHASE TWO WHEN WE'RE TARGETING PENDING NO RAIN? YES. BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT WE GET ASKED OFTEN, UH, WITH THE ELECTION COMING UP. UH, DETAILS ON PHASE TWO. SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, UM, WINTER OF THIS YEAR AND THAT'S COMPLETION OF LETTING GRASS GROW AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. OR COMPLETION WINTER OF 25 WITH USE IN SPRING OF 26. THE GRASS WILL BE THE INTERESTING PART AT THAT TIME OF THE YEAR. . YEAH. SO MORE LIKE SPRING OF 26 PROBABLY FOR UTILIZATION. I WOULD THINK I WOULD'VE, THAT WOULD BE MY BEST GUESS AT THIS TIME. DO YOU KNOW WHICH GRASS THEY'RE PLANTING? I DO NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. AND ALL OF THAT IS, OF COURSE WEATHER DEPENDENT. LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, THIS WEEK ALONE HAS KIND OF DELAYED THINGS AND SO THAT THE MORE RAIN WE GET, THE HARDER IT WILL BE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND ALSO, SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A QUESTION THAT'S GONNA COME UP. WHAT DID WE END UP DECIDING ON THE DESIGNS OF THE FIELD? IS IT ALL GRASS? IS THERE ANY TURF, INFIELD? WHAT WAS THE MIX OF THAT? IF YOU REMEMBER? THERE IS NO SYNTHETIC TURF AT THIS TIME. IT IS A SOMETIMES A TOPIC ON THE, UH, PRIOR PROJECT. SO, UM, SO MANY PARKS YOU CAN'T USE 'CAUSE IT'S MUDDY AND RAINY. MM-HMM . YEAH. I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PRIOR PROJECT IT'S, IT'S A TOPIC AND, AND PEOPLE ARE INQUIRING AND I THINK THIS PROJECT IT WILL BE ONE AS WELL. UM, AND IT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT IF THERE'S, UH, MONEY, UM, SHOULD WE EVER BE ABLE TO CONVERT THAT? YEAH. IT WOULD JUST BE THE INFIELD TURF. MM-HMM . IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A WHOLE FIELD. RIGHT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT I THINK THAT GIVES US A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE FOR GREAT. ONCE IT'S COMPLETED, ONCE IT'S COMING TO FRUITION. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT UH, WE END UP RAISING MONEY FOR FUNDS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IF WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO GO THAT ROUTE, WE COULD ALWAYS GO THAT ROUTE. YEAH. CORRECT. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE ALL NATURAL, BUT SOMETIMES FOR, FOR BASEBALL, THE INFIELD CAN REALLY HELP OUT. AND THE OUTFIELDS NATURAL, SO IT JUST HELPS OUT WITH THE PLAYABILITY. YEAH. IT MAKES IT PLAYABLE A LOT LONGER, MORE OFTEN. UM, WHICH MEANS RENTABLE. SO IT'S REVENUE, UM, IF, IF IT IS RENTED OUT. AND THEN IT, UH, ALSO SAVES ON MAINTENANCE IN THE LONG RUN. OH, FOR SURE. ABSOLUTELY. DO WE, AT WHAT POINT IN TIME ARE PEOPLE GONNA START SUBMITTING STUFF TO YOU THE WAY THEY DID AT EAGLE FOR A CONSERVATIVE SHIP FOR LEAKS? LIKE A, A [00:35:01] LITTLE LEAGUE IF YOU WILL. I THINK AT SOME POINT THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING, RIGHT? YES. UM, I, I WOULD IMAGINE SO. UM, A A TIMELINE HASN'T BEEN ESTABLISHED. UM, AND IT'S, I I HAVEN'T BEGAN DRAFTING ANY OF THE PAPERWORK OR ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD ASSUME WE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE COMPLETION LATER, YOU KNOW, VERY END OF THIS YEAR, UM, IN POTENTIAL OF PLAYABILITY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SUMMERTIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE MIGHT START LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN, IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT. YEAH. 'CAUSE PRETTY QUICK. 'CAUSE THERE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS, THERE'S NO, AND KATIE, THERE'S KATIE LITTLE LEAGUE, THERE'S NO FULL LITTLE LEAGUE PER SE. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WHOEVER'S GONNA SPEARHEAD THAT NEEDS TO GET STARTED ON THAT PRETTY QUICK. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK TO FILE FOR ALL THAT. 'CAUSE IT'S, THIS IS GONNA BE LIKE A, IN MY MIND, A LITTLE LEAGUE KIND OF DEAL, NOT A SELECT BALL DEAL. SO THAT'S GONNA BE, SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO STEP UP ON THAT PRETTY QUICK. SO I BET THEY DO. IT WOULD BE THE SAME SITUATION LIKE THE RSA AT EAGLE LANDING, RIGHT? WHERE WE'D HAVE TO GO OUT IN THAT REGARDS. UM, I WILL POSSIBLY, YES. POSSIBLY. WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE YOU COMMIT TO THAT . YEAH. OKAY. I, YEAH, JUST, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AT SOME POINT WE PROBABLY NEED TO ADVERTISE, I GUESS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING OR HOW DOES THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ON, ON WHAT THE, UM, WHAT MANAGEMENT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE. AND I CAN, I CAN DO THAT AND, AND YEAH, LET ME KNOW 'CAUSE UH, YOU KNOWS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, I ALSO JUST WANNA COMMENT ON THAT. I KNOW WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, I KNOW OUR INTENT AND DESIRE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS MORE OF THAT LITTLE LEAD TYPE FEEL. BUT I DO THINK BEING ABLE TO RENT, UH, ONE OF THE FIELDS FOR, IF YOU HAPPEN TO NEED A PRACTICE FOR THE COMMUNITY, ANY, YOU KNOW, SELECT TEAMS THEY'RE TRYING TO RENT, UM, DIAMONDS ALL THE TIME. THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF SIGN UP THAT PEOPLE COULD SIGN UP FOR AND PRODUCE REVENUE IN ADDITION TO. SO JUST AS WE CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH, I KNOW THERE'S A HUGE DESIRE IN RE FOR THERE TO BE SOME SORT OF RENTABLE BASEBALL, UM, DIAMOND IN ANY CAPACITY, OR AT LEAST FOR TOURNAMENT PLAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SHORT SEASON. YEP. SELECT GOES MUCH LONGER. YES. AND THERE'S A TIME WHERE IT'S JUST GONNA SIT THERE SO THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT CAN BE OPENED UP FOR LIKE A, A TOURNAMENT PLAY, UM, TO GENERATE REVENUE, TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER STUFF, TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE IT TO TURF OR BLEACHERS OR WHATEVER TO GENERATE INCOME. SOMETHING. DOES THE SIZE OF THE FIELDS AFFECT, LIKE, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LITTLE LEAGUE PLAY HERE, BUT IF THEY WERE LIKE FOR THE RENTAL PIECE FOR THE SELECT TEAMS, CAN THE OLDER TEAMS, WOULD THEY STILL BE INTERESTED IN THAT SORT OF A SMALLER FIELD? 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO PRACTICE OR WHATEVER? PER MY UNDERSTANDING, IT DEPENDS ON THE AGE, THE AGE GROUP. SO I THINK, UH, THE YOUNGER, THE SELECT TEAM, THOSE FIELDS WILL WORK JUST FINE. BUT AS YOU GET OLDER, I BELIEVE THAT, THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME IMPACT THERE. YEAH. THEY'D PROBABLY NEED TO BE 13 AND LOWER. OKAY. YEAH. ANYWHERE THAN THAT THEY'RE GONNA START HITTING. AND THEN AGAIN, FOR PRACTICE THE SAME SIZE, ARE ALL THE FIELDS THE SAME SIZE? NO, TWO OR 200 FOOT AND TWO OR 2 25. YEAH. YEAH. BUT I THINK FOR PRACTICING 13 ALL DAY LONG. YEAH, FOR SURE. AND FOR PRACTICING, I MEAN THEY, I THINK THE LO LOCATION WILL BE VERY DESIRABLE FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOCAL. AND SO IF IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE, THE LENGTH THEY NEED, I DON'T THINK THAT WILL MATTER HOW MANY? 2 2 2 2 2. UHHUH 200 IS A STANDARD LIKE LITTLE LEAGUE. IT WAS TWO, TWO HUNDRED AND TWO TWO TWENTY FIVE. YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF TWOS. IT'S . AND THEN LAST QUESTION FOR ME AT LEAST ON THAT, UM, FOR THE PHASE TWO, REMIND ME ON THE LIGHTING OR THE, ARE WE, IS IT WIRED IN FOR LIGHTING? WAS THE LIGHTING INCLUDED? WHAT IS THE LIGHTING SITUATION? WE WERE ABLE TO ADD IN THE ALTERNATE FOR THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR TO RUN THE, UM, THE ELECTRICAL. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE, UM, THE SPORT FIELD LIGHTING INSTALL. WE WERE ABLE TO ISSUE THAT AS A SEPARATE CONTRACT. OKAY. SO WE, UH, PART OF, PART OF THE GC IS, IS A COMPONENT OF IT. AND THEN WE WENT SEPARATE TO SAVE MONEY VIA A COOPERATIVE. PERFECT. THIS MIGHT BE A SILLY QUESTION. WHY IS ONE OF THE DIAMONDS NOT HAVE GREEN IN THE MIDDLE? IS THAT JUST IT'S A FLEX FIELD SO THAT GIRLS CAN USE IT AS WELL? SOFTBALL. OH, OKAY. MM-HMM . THE SMART, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ASKED THE OTHER DAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA TOO. SO THIS MIGHT BE AN OBVIOUS STATEMENT, BUT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PHASE TWO AND POTENTIAL RENTABILITY AND EAGLE LANDING AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF, I, I, I BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE COMING A POINT WHERE SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO BE MANAGING THE SCHEDULES OF ALL OF THESE PARKS, WHICH IS AMAZING. SO I JUST WOULD LOVE FOR PEOPLE TO KEEP IT ON THEIR RADAR. IT MIGHT ALREADY BE IN THE PLANS, IT MIGHT ALREADY EXIST, BUT I COULD JUST FORESEE THAT BEING A PERSON'S ROLE JOB WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR EYES OPEN FOR. YES, IT WAS, UH, REQUESTED AS PART OF OUR LAST BUDGET CYCLE FOR A SIX MONTH POSITION, BUT IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT OF ALL OF OUR COMPETING NEEDS. IT JUST WAS NOT ONE THAT [00:40:01] MADE IT. SO IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT IS REQUESTED AGAIN THIS YEAR IN REGARDS TO THE, BECAUSE THE ITEMIZED BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE STUFF FOR THE FIELDS WAS LAID OUT. UM, IS THERE A PARTICULAR COMPANY THAT, THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR COMPANY THAT HANDLES ALL THE ITEMIZED STUFF THAT YOU WERE GONNA BE PURCHASING FOR, LIKE THE, THE MOUNDS AND THE PLATES AND THE BASES AND THE FIELD, THE FLAT POLES AND THINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT. ALL THAT HAS TO BE, IS IT ALL PURCHASED THROUGH THE, THE CONTRACT COMPANY OR IS THAT PURCHASED THROUGH A DIFFERENT BUNCH OF VARIETY OF DIFFERENT VENDORS? I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WAS, UM, AWARDED TO THE GC. IF ON THE FIELD, UM, THE MOUNDS AND SUCH WERE AWARDED, IF SO, THEN THE, UH, IT WAS AWARDED TO THE GC SO HE PURCHASES AND ACQUIRES IT. HOWEVER HE DOES, VIA THE SPECS, AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE SPECS. UM, IF IT'S NOT AWARDED TO THE GC, THEN IT WILL BE TO THE CITY TO UH, TRY AND FUND IT IF POSSIBLE. IS THAT, AT WHAT POINT IS THAT, LIKE WHAT POINT, I MEAN, IS THERE FLEXIBILITY ON THE PRICING WITH THE GC OR IS THAT ALREADY SET? IT'S, IT'S SET, IT'S BID OUT. WE HAVE A PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. YEAH. AND SO YOU HAVE TO PUT IT OUT EITHER FOR A BID OR FOR A PROPOSAL. YEAH. UM, AND THAT'S HOW THIS WAS. AND, AND IT GOES OUT TO MULTIPLES. WE RECEIVED SEVERAL, UM, AND NEGOTIATED WITH THIS ONE, UH, THAT WAS AWARDED, WHICH WAS MILLIS AND UM, SO SO IT'S ALREADY SET. OKAY. YES. AND I WOULD JUST SAY SOMETIMES THOSE NUMBERS THAT ARE PUT FORWARD ARE PADDED WITH, UM, EXTRA DOLLARS TO MAKE SURE THAT PRICE INCREASES DON'T SPIKE. I MEAN, PERFECT EXAMPLES LIKE IN 20, RIGHT? NOBODY THOUGHT PRICES WERE GONNA DOUBLE. SO SOMETIMES THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, PADDING THERE. DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WILL SPEND THAT, IT JUST MEANS THAT THEY'RE NOT, THAT THE THE PRICING IS, IS ANTICIPATED NOT TO GO OVER THAT AMOUNT. OKAY. SO A LOT OF TIMES THAT NUMBER COMES IN UNDER YEAH. UM, SOMETIMES THAT NUMBER COMES IN UNDER NOT A LOT OF TIMES. SO I MEAN, TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE THAT PRICE FOR SURE. YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. 'CAUSE THERE WAS SOME STUFF THAT WAS DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WOULD NORMALLY BE. AND FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE FLAG POLE, IT'S LIKE THREE OR $4,000. I'M LIKE GATES. AND THE GATES. I WAS LIKE, SO YOU'D, YOU'D HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THOUGH THAT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE CITY, YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO, UM, ANY LOCAL STORE AND BUYING THAT. YEAH. THEY HAVE A MATERIAL THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET, POTENTIALLY A GAUGE THAT THEY POTENTIALLY HAVE TO MEET. YEAH. THE SIZES IS ALREADY DETERMINED. CODING IS DETERMINED. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT AS WELL AS IF THE GC IS PURCHASING IT. THEN LIKE WITH ANYTHING, THERE IS A MARKUP THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, KIMBERLY WAS ALLUDING TO SOME AS WELL. SURE. UM, SO THERE, THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS THAT GOES THROUGH THAT. AND, UM, PART OF THE CITIES IS THAT YOU, YOU DON'T, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT FOR A SOLICITATION AND THE THEN, THEN WE, THE RESPONSES WE GET, WE VALIDATE IT. UM, IT'S VERIFIED VIA ENGINEERS THAT THEY LOOK AT, UM, CURRENT PRICING. THEY LOOK AT ALL OF THE PROPOSALS OR, OR MANY OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WE WOULD'VE RECEIVED OR BIDS THAT WE WOULD'VE RECEIVED. AND THEY DO A COMPARISON. SO, YOU KNOW, PRICING CHANGES EVERY DAY. THEY'RE WHO THEIR VENDORS ARE, WHO THE, WHERE THEIR MARKET IS. UM, THAT'S FOR THEM TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SEE IS, IS WHERE IT'S AT. IF WE FELT LIKE IT WASN'T, UM, OVERALL IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO AWARD IT, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE. UM, BUT THROUGH THE DUE DILIGENCE IT WAS DONE. IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT WAS GOOD JOB. YEAH. YEAH. AND, AND I GET IT. I MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH CERTAIN, CERTAIN TYPES OF COMPANIES THAT ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, SUPER REPUTABLE AND SO THERE'S A PRICE TAG THAT COMES WITH THAT. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, LIKE BUILDING A HOUSE LIKE THE PENTAGON, LIKE BUILDING A HOUSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. LIKE THERE'S DIFFERENT MATERIALS FOR WOOD AND SHEET ROCK AND ANYTHING ELSE. UH, I CAN GET A LOT CHEAPER, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT I GO WITH THIS COMPANY. 'CAUSE THIS COMPANY WILL BE HERE TOMORROW AND THE NEXT DAY AND THE NEXT DAY. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT GOES WRONG, WE CAN RETURN IT, WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT PERSON. SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A PREMIUM FOR THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, AND WE HAVE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES DEPENDING ON HOW IT WAS WROTE, THAT STUFF COULD BE WRAPPED INTO IT. THERE'S BONDS THAT WE REQUIRE. UM, THERE'S MAINTENANCE PERIODS THAT WE REQUIRE. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I SAY LIKE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND WE CAN SAY, WELL WE CAN GO TO THIS X, Y, Z STORE AND BUY, UH, THIS GATE FOR THIS MANY DOLLARS. AND YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOU THINK IT'S APPLES TO APPLES, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT BUYING, YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR BONDS, YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR OVERHEAD, YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE STORAGE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT LABOR, THE LABOR AND ALL THAT STUFF. YEAH. COOL. I'M GOOD. I UNDERSTAND. WELL, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE NEED TO KEEP OUR EYES ON THE DOLLARS AND CENTS AND MAKE SURE IT'S BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. I THINK THE SPECIFICATIONS, IF YOU REALLY WANT AN INTERESTING READ OUTLINE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT INTERESTING. THEY'RE VERY [00:45:01] DETAILED OUTLINE EXACTLY WHAT ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE. SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE DIFFERENCES PERHAPS. KAYLA, WHAT DID YOU CALL THE, UM, THE TRASH CANS AND THE SIGNS AND ALL THATS APPURTENANCES . UM, ARE THE APPURTENANCES INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS? NO. GOOD BECAUSE I HAD, UM, UM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TALK ABOUT DOING MORE ARTISTIC THINGS, LOCAL ARTISTS AND ALL THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE ALL OF THE STREET SIGNS THAT WERE TAKEN DOWN TO PUT THE NEW ONES UP WITH OUR LOGO ON THEM THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING FUN WITH WITH THE TRASH CANS. I MEAN, JUST MAKE IT MORE, A LOT MORE PUBLIC ART OUT THERE RATHER THAN COMMERCIAL LOOKING. YOU CAN PAINT EVERYTHING OUT THERE. YEAH. IT'S OURS. SO WITH, WITH EAGLE LANDING, YOU ALL, UH, SAW THE APP APPEARANCES AND THAT WAS KIND OF SELECTED AS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A STANDARD SO THAT THE PARKS LOOK THE SAME. UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE RUN INTO STRUGGLES WHERE THINGS ARE NO LONGER POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE OR A MANUFACTURER MIGHT STOP, YOU KNOW, MAKING SOMETHING. UM, BUT WITH EAGLE LANDING, UH, YOU ALL SAW AND, AND MANY, IF YOU WERE ON THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, UM, SAW ALL THE APP APPEARANCES AND, AND YOU ALL PROVIDED FEEDBACK AND SELECTION IN THOSE AND SO THAT WAS, UM, MOVED FORWARD AS A STANDARD. YEAH, BUT I MEAN, THE MORE PUBLIC ART WE HAVE OUT THERE, THE MORE UNIQUE IT IS TO RE AND STAYS WITH OUR CHARACTERS. SO MAYBE IF WE COULD JUST THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE MOVE ALONG. UM, EVEN COVERING THE COMMERCIAL TRASH CANS, YOU KNOW, HAVE LOCAL ARTISTS COVER THEM WITH PAINTING OR WHATEVER, JUST TO KEEP SOME RE CHARACTER AND NOT LOOK LIKE EVERY, THE APPEARANCES IN EVERY OTHER PART. OKAY. THIS THOUGHT WELL, AND ONE THING I WOULD JUST ADD IS, UH, PENDING PHASE THREE MOVES FORWARD AFTER THE ELECTION COMING UP IN MAY, I WOULD THINK THAT, THAT THE PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THAT PLAYGROUND AREA COULD POTENTIALLY HOUSE SOME REALLY COOL ART PIECES OR SOME THINGS THAT ARE JUST MORE CREATIVE IN THAT AREA. UM, SO I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA KEEP OUR EYES OPEN FOR PHASE TWO AND, AND THE POTENTIAL PHASE THREE FOR THOSE UNIQUE MOMENTS. YEAH. BUT I THINK IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE 'EM IN, IN ALL THE PARTS. IT'LL BE LIKE, OH, WELL SURE. THE CREATIVE, UM MM-HMM . IDEAS. I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE AROUND JUST TO LOOK AT THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO IT'S A THOUGHT. YEAH, I AGREE. ANYBODY ELSE? I'M SORRY, ONE LAST THING 'CAUSE I THINK YOU'RE GETTING READY TO MOVE ON THIS, UM, MILLER AND CYNTHIA WOODS PAVILION LAWN DESIGN PRINTOUT THAT WE HAVE. IS THAT WITH G ITEM THREE? IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS? YES. SO PHASE THREE, UM, OH, GOOD ONE FOR AN UPDATE ON THAT. YOU HAVE, UM, THREE DIFFERENT DRAWINGS. UM, THE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, PHASE THREE HAS BEEN, UH, PRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION WITH THE BOND. UM, THE AMPHITHEATER BECAME A TOPIC I BELIEVE, UM, AT THE JANUARY 28TH COUNCIL MEETING, I WAS ASKED ROUGHLY HOW MUCH THE AMPHITHEATER WOULD COST, UM, AND IF IT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE IF IT WERE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE, UM, PRICE THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THE BOND. UM, AND THEN, UH, THE, THE STAFF WAS GIVEN DIRECTION. AND THEN AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, FEBRUARY 4TH, THE AMPHITHEATER WAS A, UM, TOPIC AGAIN. SO, UH, THROUGH THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE CONSULTANT HALF, UM, FOR PHASE THREE. UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SOME TWEAKS TO PHASE THREE AND JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS ALIGNED. UM, BUT WITH THAT, UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS OF DIFFERENT AMPHITHEATERS AND THEIR SIZE AND THERE WAS, THERE'S A LOT OF TOPIC AROUND THE SIZE OF THE AMPHITHEATER. UM, THE SIZE HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED. THE SIZE IS NOT DESIGNED. UM, THE SIZE IN MANY WAYS IS DETERMINED BASED OFF OF WHAT, UM, THE CITY WANTS TO SEE PROGRAMMED THERE. UM, SO WHAT KIND OF EVENTS WE WANT TO HAVE, WHAT THINGS WE WANT TO DO THERE, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE ON THE STAGE THAT DRIVES THE, UM, SIZING OF THE STAGE. SO THE STAGE OF THE AMPHITHEATER. SO, UM, WE DID ASK, UM, HALF TO PROVIDE US SOME FEEDBACK ON JUST A QUICK RESEARCH OF WHAT THEY COULD DO. UM, THEY WILL BE PRESENTING AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS PLANNED TO BE, UH, OR IS REQUESTED TO, UH, BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK, UM, ON I GUESS WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE AN AMPHITHEATER OR COULD BE AN AMPHITHEATER AT FA UH, PRIMROSE PHASE THREE. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UM, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE THE SIZING WAS, UH, A TOPIC, UM, THAT'S, UH, I BELIEVE WE WOULD RECEIVE FEEDBACK ON IF IT DOES REMAIN IN PHASE THREE, UM, WHAT POTENTIALLY THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE SO THAT WE CAN SIZE [00:50:01] IT APPROPRIATELY. UM, BUT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE A REPRESENTATION, UM, THE, THE, THIS PIECE HERE IS KIND OF JUST SHOWING PHASE THREE. IT IS STILL HAND DRAWN BECAUSE, UM, WE DON'T WANT TO DO A FINAL RENDERING, UH, AND SPEND THE MONEY FOR THE CAD DRAWING OF IT. UM, SHOULD IT CHANGE AGAIN. SO WHAT YOU SEE IS, UM, THE, IT'S ITEM 21, IT'S THAT LARGE RECTANGULAR BLANK BOX, UM, THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE CITY A WHILE BACK TO KIND OF HAVE THAT AS BLANK PAD SITES, UH, FOR THE FUTURE. UM, IF IT BECOMES NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S NOTHING BUILT THERE IN THE FUTURE, IT COULD ALWAYS BE CONVERTED BACK TO PARKING. YOU'LL SEE THE SOUTH PARKING LOT AROUND THAT. AND THAT'S WHERE IT KIND OF TIES INTO HUGGINS. UM, YOU'LL SEE ON THE CHURCH PARKING LOT WHERE WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL SHARED SPACE, UM, WHERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CHURCH THERE AS WELL AS A POTENTIAL DETENTION EXPANSION, UM, THAT'S RELATED TO THE CHURCH AS WELL. YOU'LL SEE THE AMPHITHEATER THERE IN THE MIDDLE. AS YOU WALK THROUGH, UM, KIND OF THE PARK, UH, HEADED NORTH. YOU'LL SEE THE, WE CALL 'EM BEANS RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY KIND OF LOOK, UM, DRAWN, UH, HAND DRAWN. BUT, UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE ARE KIND OF THE, THE, UH, RAISED LAWN PIECES. UM, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE 14, WHICH IS THE THIRD BEAN IS KIND OF A, UM, OPEN FLEX SPACE, WHETHER IT'S JUST PLAYING, WHETHER IT'S, UM, IF THE AM THEATER REMAINS AND, AND, AND THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON ON THAT SECTION, BUT THERE'S KIDS THAT WANNA THROW A FOOTBALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT ALLOWS FOR THAT KIND OF JUST OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS, UH, ANY GIVEN DAY OF THE PARK, IT'S JUST OPEN, UH, SPACE FOR KIDS TO GO PLAY. UM, THEN YOU KIND OF KEEP GOING. AND THIS IS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT THE FOOD TRUCK SPACES WERE DOWN AT THE OTHER PARKING LOT. WE MOVED THE FOOD TRUCK AREA, UM, KIND OF BETWEEN PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE SO THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE FOR BOTH. UM, BUT ALSO KEEPS THAT IF YOU WERE TRYING TO ORDER FOOD, EAT AND ALL THOSE THINGS, AND THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON MUSIC-WISE OR SOMETHING, UM, AT, AT THE AMPHITHEATER GIVES YOU THAT DISTANCE A LITTLE BIT FOR HEARING AND ALL THE THINGS OF JUST A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE. UM, BUT YOU'LL SEE THERE'S KIND OF LIKE AN AMBIANCE THERE THAT WE TRIED TO CREATE WITH, UM, THE SEATING AND OUTDOOR AREA. AND THEN IN THE BLUE AREAS YOU'LL SEE, WHICH ARE FOUR, UM, THAT'S WHERE THERE'S DIFFERENT PLAYGROUNDS, UM, FOR DIFFERENT AGE SIZES. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE, UM, ITEM NINE IS KIND OF AN OUTDOOR EDUCATIONAL AREA. UM, YOU, IF YOU REMEMBER IN ONE OF PARTS OF, UH, EAGLE LANDING, THERE WAS SOME EDUCATIONAL POSTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, ABOUT NATURE AND ALL OF THAT, AND WE HAD TO REMOVE THAT. UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING, UH, POTENTIALLY THERE AS WELL OF JUST, UH, SOME FORM OF OUTDOOR EDUCATION, UM, NATURE TYPE THING. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, THAT WE, THE NORTH PARKING IS WHERE WE ARE BASICALLY WHERE THE, THE PHASE TWO PARKING LOT IS, IS THAT THAT IS ADDING ANOTHER BANK OF PARKING TO CONNECT ONTO THAT PHASE TWO. UM, SO THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE PARKING, WHETHER IT WAS ON THE BASEBALL SIDE OR MORE PARKING, WHETHER IT WAS PHASE THREE, BOTH, UM, ALL THE WAY. UM, TIFFANY, WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE IN THERE WITH CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE OF THESE FIELDS, PROBABLY 15 WOULD BE IDEAL AS PLANTED WITH WILD FLOWERS, LIKE BLUE BONNETS. AND FOR THE, FOR THE SORT OF END OF APRIL MAY INTO EARLY JUNE, THE BLUE BONNETS WOULD BE BLOOMING AND PUT STEPPING STONES THROUGH THERE THAT PEOPLE COULD GO AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS WITH THEIR KIDS SO THEY'RE NOT ENDANGERING THEIR LIVES ON THE SIDE OF A ROAD SOMEWHERE. DID YOU SAY ITEM 15? 14? THE CURRENT 14? WELL, IT'S 14 AND 15 ON THIS ONE, AND IT'S 15 ON THIS ONE. THE BIG AREA THAT THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, THE MATERIAL, THAT'S THE DETENTION POND. YOU WANNA GO A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH. OKAY, SO I'M IN THE WRONG SPOT. SO WHERE IS THIS? IT'S HARD TO SEE BECAUSE THE TRAIL ISN'T ON, IS THE TRAIL ON HERE AT ALL POINT? JUST THE PHASE ONE TRAIL. THE THE QUARTER MILE TRAIL THAT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S RIGHT HERE. THIS IS ONE ONE. OKAY. WELL THEN, IS THAT IT RIGHT THERE? YES. SO TO HAVE THAT PLANTED AND JUST THINK ABOUT PUTTING THE CORRECT SOIL IN THERE FOR THEM TO GROW. SO IT WOULD BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT IT WOULD BE BLUEMONT STEPPING STONES THROUGH THERE. PEOPLE CAN WALK THROUGH THERE ALL THEY WANT, BUT THEY DON'T GET CRUSHED BECAUSE THERE'S STEPPING STONES IN THERE. AND THEN THE REST OF THE YEAR IT WOULD JUST BE PLAIN AND OPEN. OKAY. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S, UH, I THINK ANTICIPATED FOR OVERFLOW PARKING IF NEEDED. SO BLUE BONS ARE PRETTIER THAN PARKING. MM-HMM . SO I JUST WANTED TO JUMP OUT THERE AND SAY THAT, AND THIS IS LARGELY FROM THE, UH, FEBRUARY 4TH MEETING, THAT [00:55:01] HAVING BEEN INVOLVED WITH PARKS AND RECORD FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, THE INTENT, I BELIEVE HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOR THIS TO BE AN AREA IN WHICH THE WHOLE CITY COULD POTENTIALLY GATHER IF NEEDED. I DON'T THINK, AND I'M SPEAKING PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THE INTENTION WAS EVER A CYNTHIA WOODS TYPE HUGE, LARGE PAVILION TO HOST LIKE HUGE CONCERTS. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S BEEN KIND OF A TOPIC OF, OF CONVERSATION AND I APPRECIATE HALF PUTTING TOGETHER KIND OF WHAT THAT COMPARISON LOOKS LIKE. BUT FOR THE AMPHITHEATER, I THINK THE ONES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN SMALLER, MORE ARTISTIC, UM, HAVE THE CAPABILITIES OF BEING ABLE TO PLUG IN YOUR MICROPHONES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES HAPPENING THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM MY, MY UNDERSTANDING, OUR INTENT THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS IT WOULD BE PERHAPS FOR THAT ONE OR TWO TIMES A YEAR THAT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER, PERHAPS FOR OUR LOCAL, UH, SCHOOLS TO UTILIZE FOR THEIR ORCHESTRA CONCERTS IN THE SPRING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ENVISION SOME, SOME EVENTS SUCH AS ART IN THE PARKING LOT. IT COULD BE ART IN THE PARK IF THERE WAS A FARMER'S MARKET OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES THAT NEEDED AN OPEN AREA, BUT THEN ALSO HAD THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, CONTACT THE CROWD WITH SOMETHING IF THERE WAS LIKE AN EMERGENCY SETTING THAT EVERYBODY NEEDED TO BE CONTACTED QUICKLY. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT ALTHOUGH THIS IS VERY CONCEPTUAL, I THINK THE TIERED APPROACH IS SMART. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT DOESN'T NOT ALLOW FOR US TO HOST SOME EVENTS THERE THAT THERE'S NO TRIP ABILITY, BUT I WOULD PREFER SMALLER, ARTSY, NOT HUGE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS EVER, EVER THE INTENT OF OUR RECOMMENDATION. IF YOU LOOK AT CENTRAL PARK IN NEW YORK, THERE'S UM, A LITTLE AMPHITHEATER, I WOULDN'T EVEN CALL IT THAT. IT'S CALLED THE SHELL, AND I'M SURE YOU CAN LOOK UP PICTURES OF IT AND IT'S SMALL, BUT IT'S ENOUGH TO FIT A LITTLE FOUR PIECE BAND. IT'S SMALL, IT'S THERE ALL YEAR, AND PEOPLE JUST GET UP THERE AND USE IT. UM, WHEN, WHEN THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, KIDS ABOUT SKIRTS MM-HMM . AND, AND IT'S CUTE AND IT DOESN'T TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE. AND I REMEMBER FROM A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE HAD JUST LOOKED AT SOME POTENTIAL IDEAS OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE WHEN WE WERE ENVISIONING THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND ENOUGH ROOM. SO THERE'S SOME STORAGE OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, PROTECTED, BUT NOT THIS HUGE CYNTHIA WOODS TYPE SPACE. SO I JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE EDITS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON THIS CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR ME MAKES SENSE. BEING ABLE TO MOVE THE, THE PARKS, UH, THE LITTLE PLAY AREA AND THE FOOD TRUCK IN BETWEEN BOTH PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY ON BOTH SIDES. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME FUTURE THINGS THAT ARE PLANNED THAT, THAT MAKE MORE SENSE WHERE THEY ARE ON THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN. SO I THINK IT'S JUST MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND EXCITING. THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, THE, THE, THE, THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS OF WHAT YOU CAN OR CAN'T DO WITH THE, THE, UH, AMPHITHEATER, UM, FOUR PERSON BAND. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UM, UH, THERE'S SOME MINIMAL MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENTS, UM, THAT CAN GUIDE SOME OF THAT IS, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, UH, WE'LL WE WILL LOOK TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. UM, IF THE AMPHITHEATER STAYS, THEN, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT IT TO, UH, FIT FOUR PEOPLE, A FOUR PERSON BAND ONLY? UM, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A FOUR PERSON BAND, BUT ALSO A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE ON THE STAGE? UM, SHOULD WE, UM, EVER HAVE A, UM, ANY TYPE OF HOLIDAY CELEBRATION THERE IS THE CITY, UM, SHOULD PARKS AND RECREATION EVER GROW TO OFFER SPECIAL EVENTS? UM, LIKE SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES MAY, UM, YOU COULD DO CONCERTS IN THE PARK, UM, YOU CAN DO MOVIES IN THE PARK. UH, THERE'S A, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS YOU CAN RENT IT AND OTHER, UM, ORGANIZATIONS CAN HOST THINGS THERE UTILIZING THE AMPHITHEATER. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU BUILD IT AND YOU SIZE IT, UM, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. AND SO IF YOU, UH, BUILD IT VERY SMALL, UM, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE FOR THE FUTURE. UM, UNLESS IT'S EVER, YOU KNOW, REMOVED AND BUILT AGAIN. UM, AND, AND SAME FOR THE OPPOSITE. IF YOU BUILD IT TOO LARGE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY GROW INTO IT AND YOU MAY NOT. AND PLEASE TELL ME IF I, IF I DON'T REPRESENT US WHEN I SAY THIS, PLEASE TELL ME, BUT I DO NOT WANT CYNTHIA WOODS AND CULTURE. NO. AND I THINK NO INTEREST IN FIXED SEATING, CONCERT VENUE, LARGE SCALE. THIS IS MORE FLEXIBLE FOR THE FUTURE MULTI-EVENT, MORE NATURE INFUSED ARTSY, UM, BUT NO FIXED SEATING LIKE A CYNTHIA WOODS MITCHELL PAVILION WOULD HAVE THIS WOULD BE BRINGING IN YOUR LAWN CHAIR'S 25 ACRE PARK. THAT'S FOR GENERATING INCOME. THIS IS NOT CYNTHIA'S FOR GENERATING INCOME, THIS IS FOR LIKE FULL RESIDENCE FOR GATHERING. THIS IS JUST SUBMITTED FOR THE DESIGN OF THE STAGE BECAUSE THOSE THINGS ARE THE, THOSE VENUES ARE HUGE, RIGHT? YEAH. IT, THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF MENTIONED SOME AND SO WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO [01:00:01] REPRESENT WITH THE RED BLURBS THERE TO SHOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. I SEE. YEAH. YEAH'S AND FEBRUARY 4TH MEETING, IF, IF, UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, GO BACK AND LISTEN TO IT AND I'LL ADD MORE CONTEXT TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE JUST RAISED. BUT I DO THINK COUNCILMAN CANNOT BE, UH, REPRESENTED THE WILL OF WHAT WE'VE GIVEN AS RECOMMENDATIONS VERY WELL IN THAT MEETING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GONNA REALLY DICTATE ON WHAT YOU CAN DO THERE AND HOW BIG YOU CAN DO IT IS HOW MUCH PARKING YOU HAVE. YEAH. LIKE 4TH OF JULY MM-HMM . LIKE WHAT WE ALWAYS DO IN THE FULLER, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU COULD HAVE IT HERE IF YOU CAN SUSTAIN THE PARKING OR THE ST. PATTY'S DAY PARADE OR ST. PATTY'S DAY AND ALL THAT STUFF. YOU CAN HOLD A LOT IF THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING FOR ALL THAT. RIGHT. AND SO YOU'LL SEE OF HOW WE'RE ADDING THE NORTH BANK AND THEN, UM, LIKE I SAID, PAD 21, SO WITH A PARK, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT IT TO STILL BE A PARK. SURE. RIGHT. AND I THINK RAMONA'S SMILING, SO I KNOW SHE AGREES , UM, YOU WANT IT TO STILL BE A PARK AND SO TO, TO THE POINT OF A, A OUTDOOR THEATER, UM, THAT THAT IS ALL THAT THEY DO. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY HAVE A, A LARGE BANK OF PARKING AND IT ACCOMMODATES THE NECESSARY PEOPLE VERSUS, UM, WHAT THEY PLAN FOR THEIR OCCUPANCY. BUT FOR THE PARK LARGELY, IT'S STILL A PARK EVERY DAY AND THEN IT IS USED AS AN AMPHITHEATER OR FOR EVENTS ON, UM, HOW MANY EVER OCCASIONS THROUGH THE YEAR, WHETHER THAT'S 12 TIMES A YEAR, UH, WHETHER THAT'S FIVE TIMES A YEAR OR 20 TIMES A YEAR, I DON'T KNOW. UM, BUT YOU PLAN FOR, UM, THE BEST THAT YOU CAN IN THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE SURE. WITHOUT MAKING IT A PARKING LOT PARK. YEAH. UM, BUT STILL, STILL TRYING TO HOLD THE TRUE VALUE AND THE TRUE MEANING OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. UM, BUT SHOULD THE CHURCH EVER, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY BUILD OUT AND IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS POTENTIALLY WORK WITH THEM ON UTILIZING SOME OF THAT PARKING AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT SCHEDULING CONFLICTS MM-HMM . UM, PHASE TWO PARKING WOULD ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE. UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OPINIONS AROUND SHUTTLES, UM, BUT HUGGINS ELEMENTARY IS NEARBY. UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERING WITH THE SCHOOLS MM-HMM . UM, WHETHER THAT'S STAFF, WHETHER THAT'S STAFF AND OVERFLOW TO THE, YOU KNOW, IF THE PARKING LOT FILLS UP, UM, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA WITHIN THE, THE CURRENT, UH, QUARTER MILE TRAIL AS POTENTIAL OVERFLOW. SO THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS THERE TO, TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT IF IT IS A LARGER EVENT, UM, HOW TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, BUT WITHOUT MAKING IT, UM, A PARKING LOT PARK. SURE. AND PEOPLE WILL PARK ALONG THE SIDES OF THE ROAD ACTUALLY. THEY'LL PARK WHEREVER THEY FEEL LIKE PARKING WHEN THOSE EVENTS HAPPEN. SO I JUST THINK IT GOES BACK TO THE ROOT OF THE ESSENCE OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE SPACE TO HOST AN EVENT THAT THE CITY OF RE RESIDENTS CAN PARTICIPATE IN IS INVALUABLE, IN MY OPINION. SO THIS SPACE, I MEAN, I THINK PARKING WILL HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, DETERMINED FOR THOSE LARGER EVENTS, BUT TO BE ABLE TO HOST IT AND NOT HAVE TO RENT IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, I THINK IS, THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. I THINK THE MOVIES, YEAH, I THINK YOU CAN DO A LOT OF FUN STUFF. MM-HMM . A LOT OF FUN STUFF THERE. UH, THE, UM, YEAH, WE WANT IT SMALLER SCALE. WE DON'T WANT LIKE, PEOPLE DRIVING FROM THE WOODLANDS TO COME DOWN HERE AND KIND OF RIGHT. IT'S JUST LIKE NOT A MONEY MAKER, IT'S A STER COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY, YEAH. YEAH. MM-HMM . THE FUTURE OF HUGGINS ROAD EXTENSION, I KNOW WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT IS THERE ANY FURTHER DETAILS ON WHEN THAT COULD OR COULD NOT HAPPEN? THEY, UM, HAVE BIDED OUT AND THEY HAVE SELECTED A CONTRACTOR, UM, AND THEY ARE WORKING ON SOME MATERIAL STUFF BEFORE THEY ISSUE THEIR NOTICE TO PROCEED TO THE CONTRACTOR. UM, SO WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL IN THE, UH, COMING MONTHS THAT IT WILL BREAK GROUND. IS THEY COUNTY OR THE COUNTY? I APOLOGIZE. YES. SO THAT IS A FORT BEND COUNTY PROJECT, UM, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MANAGING THE PROJECT BECAUSE I DO, I JUST, IF WE ALL LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE RENDERING OR THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN HERE, THIS SO CLOSE, YOU FORGET THAT PRIMROSE IS SO CLOSE TO CONNECTING TO ANOTHER MAJOR ROAD THAT THERE COULD POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE BE SOME PARKING STRUCTURES OR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES THERE THAT IT PROVIDES MORE PARKING. PARKING AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE. AND WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROADS, TIFFANY, IS THERE ANY CHANCE WE CAN CHANGE THE ADDRESS TO DIXON ROAD THAT IS GONNA BE SO CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE? YES, I HAVE, UM, TALKED TO OUR GIS ABOUT THAT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, IT'S NOT ON PATTERSON. I KNOW I'VE, I'VE BROUGHT IT UP AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH. IT HAPPENED, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE CAN CHANGE, CHANGE IT. WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . CHANGING THE ROAD'S HARD. IT'S DIFFICULT. IT'S A LOT OF WORK, LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. IT'S JUST THE ADDRESS. SO PATTERSON IS A LITTLE BIT FOR IS A ROAD A LITTLE BIT PAST THE PARK? YEAH. AND FOR SOME REASON AT WHATEVER POINT IN TIME, THE PARK, UM, INSTEAD OF IT BEING BLAH, BLAH, BLAH NUMBER DIXON ROAD, IT IS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. PATTERSON ROAD. YEAH. FOR SOME REASON ON PATTERSON NO. [01:05:01] GO PAST PEOPLE FIND, YEAH, WE CAN PUT GOOGLE MAPS. THEY'RE GONNA BE LIKE WHERE WE, UM, PATTERSON. OKAY. SO I THINK WE ARE, WE'RE GOOD TO KIND OF TRY TO MOVE IT ALONG HERE. SO, UH, MONTHLY PARKS NUMBER, FINANCIAL BUDGET REPORT. ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ON THAT? NO. YOU WANNA BRING A PICTURE, SARAH, ANYTHING? NO. OKAY. [BUSINESS - I] ON TO THE NEXT, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING CURRENT OR FUTURE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES? I, I, I THINK WE NEED THAT ON THE AGENDA REGULARLY. ANYMORE SINCE IS HERE, WE CAN REMOVE IT. I MEAN THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE HAVE A GRANT WRITER NOW ON STAFF AND WE DID NOT BEFORE, SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHY THAT WAS THERE. THE PLACEHOLDER, IS THAT REGARDING FOR GRANTS FOR LIKE DONATIONS FOR THINGS FOR THE FIELDS AND PRIMROSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT? OR WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? NO, THIS ITEM WAS, UM, JUST BECAUSE IN THE PAST THERE WERE, UH, POTENTIAL GRANTS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT. AND UM, BEFORE, AT THAT TIME, LIKE MS. RAMONA WAS SAYING IS THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR. AND UM, SO SOMETIMES Y'ALL WOULD BRING GRANTS, UM, OR POTENTIAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, FOR US TO LOOK AT. AND BEFORE THE CITY PURSUED IT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PARKS BOARD AS A WHOLE WAS, UM, ON THE SAME PAGE WITH WANTING TO LOOK AT US PURSUING THAT THERE WERE PARK GRANTS LIKE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, THOSE SORT OF GRANTS THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT, BUT NOW NI WAS ON IT. WOULD WE MAKE LIKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT OR WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? WE CAN JUST REMOVE IT AND NOT PUT IT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M JUST CURIOUS. OOPS, SORRY. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE KEEP IT FOR FUTURE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS FOR PRIMROSE, WE COULD TALK, WE COULD JUST, WE COULD ALWAYS JUST ADD IT AT THAT TIME. SPONSORSHIP RATHER THAN GRANT. I MEAN, TRUE. WE CAN ALWAYS ADD IT TO THE AGENDA IF NEEDED. OKAY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS STALE. WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY ON STAFF WHO'S DOING THAT. SO. ALL RIGHT. ONTO [BUSINESS - J] GA, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. SO THIS IS J'S OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TALK ABOUT ANYTHING, UM, THAT MIGHT BE GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU WANTED TO SHARE, UH, WITH OTHERS FOR POTENTIAL ATTENDANCE. OKAY. WELL I HAVE TO SAY APRIL 5TH IS KE FULL. SURE. BEAUTIFUL. SO VOLUNTEERS WILL MEET AT IRENE STERN AT 9:00 AM FOR SUPPLIES, T-SHIRT, QUICK SNACK, AND A, UH, MAYOR, UM, MCCOY WILL SAY A FEW WORDS. SHORE POLICE, A REP FROM SHORE POLICE WILL, UH, GIVE A LITTLE SAFETY TALK AND EVERYBODY WILL BE ON THEIR WAY. WE'LL, WE'LL CLEAN, PICK UP THE LITTER DEBRIS ALONG THE ROADS AND WE'RE STILL IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING MAYBE AROUND CITY HALL. ZACH MENTIONED PLANTINGS BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY GARDEN'S GONE BACK HERE BEHIND THE IRON STERN. AND, UM, IN THE FUTURE, ONCE WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG, UM, IN PRIMROSE, WE NEED TO ID SOME LOCATIONS TO PLANT TREES AND WE CAN DO THAT AT A FUTURE. CUTE. BEAUTIFUL. HAVE THE VOLUNTEERS PLANT TREES AROUND THE TRAILS WHERE WE NEED TREES. I LIKE IT ANYWAY. APRIL 5TH, 9:00 AM OKAY. FUTURE. OOPS, SORRY, I WAS JUST GETTING MY DATES CORRECT HERE. SO SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE DO HAVE A MAY 3RD ELECTION COMING UP AND THERE'S SOME IMPORTANT STUFF ON THAT AGENDA AND EARLY VOTING, UM, STARTS ON APRIL 22ND, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL ON OUR AGENDAS. VERY IMPORTANT, VERY IMPORTANT TO GET OUT AND VOTE. OKAY. ON TO [BUSINESS - K] THE NEXT ONE. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, THAT I THINK. YEAH. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING Y'ALL WANNA ADD FOR THE FUTURE AGENDA, UM, THAT WE, THAT MAYBE ISN'T ON HERE, IF YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING DOES COME BACK. SO WE NORMALLY HAVE OUR ITEM G, UM, WHICH IS PRETTY, PRETTY MUCH A STANDING ITEM, UM, A, B AND THEN G, H, J AND K ARE THE NORMAL STANDING ITEMS. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU KNOW AROUND THE OTHERS OR BEYOND THAT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS FUTURE. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD? UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF D WITH THE PARKS BOND, MAYBE THERE BEING AN AGENDA ITEM NEXT, UH, MONTH. EDUCATING US ON PERHAPS SOME OF THE FAQS AND THE EDUCATION PIECES THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAYBE POSTING ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT WE'RE JUST AWARE OF WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. [01:10:01] UH, DISCUSSING JUST THE INFORMATION AROUND THAT BOND. OKAY. I'LL ASK BYRON. 'CAUSE I HAD ASKED HIM IF WE SHOULD JUST REMOVE BOND DISCUSSION FROM THIS AND HE SAID IT WAS ADVISABLE. SO I'LL SEE. I WOULD MAYBE HAVE IT AS UM, BOND INFORMATION RESOURCES JUST SO THAT WE'RE AWARE. UM, AND WE SHOULD ALL PROBABLY JUST BE WATCHING FOR THIS, BUT IF SOMETHING'S POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, UM, I WOULD THINK THAT CITIZENS WILL PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THAT STUFF. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE MOST FACTUAL AND, AND CORRECT INFORMATION AS A COMMISSION TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP TO US. OKAY. OR YOUR PHONE WILL RING MORE . ANYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS FUTURE ITEMS? SARAH? I FEEL BAD I'M NOT THAT TALL OVER THIS PODIUM. , I'M GOOD. THANKS. THANKS. PRESSURE NECK OUT. SHE'S A YEAH. MOTION TO ADJOURN. I MOVE. ADJOURN. I SECOND. YOU WANT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO HAVE IT? I'LL TAKE IT. I SECOND. AWESOME. THANKS CO-CAPTAIN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ADJOURN. NO. ADJOURN AT 10 12 ON FRIDAY, VALENTINE'S DAY. THANK YOU ALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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