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ANYTIME YOU SPEAK, PLEASE TURN YOUR MICROPHONES ON.
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CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 9 0 4 AND THIS IS OUR FIRST RECORDED MEETING.SO THERE'S A BUTTON RIGHT HERE ON YOUR MICROPHONE WHEN YOU SPEAK.
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REGARD, DEPARTMENT.SO, UM, AS SHARED AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, THE CITY PUBLISHED A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS ON SEPTEMBER 11TH FOR THE EAGLE LANDING FIELD RENTALS.
UM, WITH SUBMISSIONS DUE ON OCTOBER 17TH, THE CITY RECEIVED THREE SUBMISSIONS FOR CONSIDERATION.
AN EVALUATION TEAM OF THREE CITY STAFF MEMBERS REVIEWED AND SCORED THE THREE SUBMISSIONS RECEIVED THROUGH THIS RFQ PROCESS.
THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UM, ENSURED THAT THE SCORING MEMBERS DID NOT HAVE ANY CHILDREN OR FAMILY MEMBERS, UM, PLAYING FOR ANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUBMITTED TO ENSURE THAT THERE WERE NO CONFLICTS THERE.
UM, TO ENSURE YOU HAD SUFFICIENT TIME TO REVIEW THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PACKETS AND BE PREPARED FOR TODAY THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PACKETS, UH, FOR EACH RESPONDING ORGANIZATION.
AND THE CITY'S EVALUATION SUMMARY WERE EMAILED TO YOU ON MONDAY.
UM, AND THEN WE DID JUST PRINT, UM, PACKETS FOR MOST OF YOU, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT PRINTED OUT AND NEEDED IT FOR THIS MORNING.
UM, OUR PLAN IS TO RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, UM, TODAY, AND THEN I WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UH, FOR CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.
UM, TODAY WE HAVE THE TWO TOP SCORING ORGANIZATIONS, UM, WITH US SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR EITHER ORGANIZATION.
UM, AND THOSE TWO TOP SCORING WERE THE ONES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE EVALUATION SUMMARY THAT WAS PROVIDED.
CAN I ASK ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? WE ARE NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCUSS WHO'S ONE AND TWO CURRENTLY, CORRECT.
UM, SO THERE IS NOT, WE DON'T, THERE'S NOT PROCUREMENT LAWS THAT WE ARE HAVING TO FOLLOW BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A PROCUREMENT, BUT, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE ONLY, THE EVALUATION TEAM IS ONLY ONE COMPONENT OF THIS AND Y'ALL ARE THE SECOND COMPONENT.
UM, I HAVE NOT SHARED THE SCORES WITH EITHER OF THE ORGANIZATIONS.
SO NEITHER OF THE ORGANIZATIONS KNOW IF THEY ARE NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, BASED OFF OF THE CITY'S EVALUATION TEAM.
SO JUST FOR OUR KNOWLEDGE, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST FOR US TO NOT REFERENCE NUMBER ONE
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AND NUMBER TWO, JUST ASK THE QUESTIONS AND TALK ABOUT THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS AS THEY ARE.DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES, BECAUSE Y'ALL'S SCORING COULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THE EVALUATION TEAMS, WHICH COULD THEN CHANGE.
SO THEN IT COULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL POTENTIALLY AS, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD ULTIMATELY MAKE THE DECISION.
SO TO CLARIFY, THIS IS A THREE STEP PROCESS THAT THE CITY'S DOING WITH THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS BEING EVALUATED BY A SELECTION COMMITTEE, THE SECOND BEING US CREATING A RECOMMENDATION FROM PARKS AND RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL'S FINAL DECISION.
JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND.
HAS IT BEEN DECIDED IF THERE'S GONNA BE ONE ORGANIZATION OR TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE GONNA SPLIT IT? MM-HMM.
SO, UM, MY INTENT IS THAT WE, WE HAVE A POLICY THAT I'VE CREATED, UM, THAT IS IN WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM FOR REVIEW, UM, BEFORE WE CAN FINALIZE THAT.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S, I'M, I'M WAITING ON THE POLICY AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE IT TO COUNCIL ULTIMATELY.
'CAUSE I WANT THE POLICY TO BE, UM, COMPLETED SO THAT, THAT BECAUSE THE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE TO AGREE TO THE POLICY.
UM, SO IT IS MY INTENT TO HAVE, UM, WHAT IS VERY SIMILAR IN THIS PROCESS TO BE CALLED WHAT IS AN, UH, A RECOGNIZED SPORTS ASSOCIATION, ALSO KNOWN AS AN RSA MM-HMM.
AND THEN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR INDIVIDUALS CAN ALSO USE IT.
UM, IN THE QUALIFICATION PACKET, ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WERE, UM, NOTIFIED THAT, UM, OF THE, SO EAGLE LANDING IS UP TO 12 FIELDS DEPENDING ON HOW YOU, UH, LAY THOSE FIELDS OUT AND HOW YOU UTILIZE THEM.
AND SO THE ORGANIZATIONS WERE ALL NOTIFIED IN THE, UH, REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS THAT THE CITY WOULD RESERVE TWO FIELDS AT ALL TIMES.
UM, SO THAT THOSE TWO FIELDS WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THE PARK COULD REMAIN.
AND SO MY INTENT IS FOR THOSE TWO FIELDS, UM, YEAH.
NOW, NOW THAT COULD BE THAT IT WAS, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A FULL SIZE FIELD.
IT JUST IS TWO FIELDS IS WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
AND THAT WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO AND, AND JUST UTILIZE THE PART PLAY MOM AND DAD OR, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR KIDS PLAY, PLAY A LITTLE GAME OR PRACTICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THOSE FIELDS ARE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS A COMMUNITY PARK, WAS WILL THERE BE A RESERVATION SYSTEM FOR THAT THROUGH THE CITY OR HOW WILL THAT WORK FOR THE TWO FIELDS? MM-HMM.
FOR THE TWO FIELDS? NO, IT WOULD JUST ALWAYS BE OPEN FIRST.
'CAUSE IF IT LEAVES 10 FIELDS, THAT'S A LOT OF FIELDS.
BUT THEY'RE ONE ORGANIZATION OR SOME OF 'EM ARE SMALL.
WHAT THE, IS THE FULL, WHAT'S THE FULL SIZE FIELD COUNT? LIKE IF THEY WERE SAY LIKE THIS WAS A FULL SIZE FIELD, HOW MANY FIELDS ARE THERE? THERE'S TWO, BUT COULD BE THREE.
IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW IT'S LAID OUT.
I CAN GO GET, UM, I CAN ASK SOMEONE TO GO GET A, A RENDERING THAT WE HAVE PRINTED OUT THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT FIELDS AND THE WAY THAT THE DESIGNER LAID IT OUT.
SO THEY'LL ALL BE STRIPED PERMANENTLY OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT THE CONFIGURATION CAN CHANGE? THE CONFIGURATION CAN CHANGE BASED OFF OF STRIPING.
IN A LARGE FIELD IT CAN BE SPLIT UP TWO.
I MEAN, YOU COULD PRACTICE ON A LARGE FIELD ON HALF AND HALF.
I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FULL PLAY.
I MEAN, YOU CAN DIVIDE IT UP BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF FIELDS FOR JUST ONE ORGANIZATION TOO.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT COULD BE REALISTICALLY TWO GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR TWO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS IS WHAT I WAS KIND OF GOING TOWARDS.
THAT IS MY INTENT IS THAT THERE WOULD BE ONE RSA AND THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR INDIVIDUALS SURE.
UM, THAT WANT TO RENT OUT JUST ONE FIELD OR A COUPLE OF FIELDS.
UM, IT IS, THAT IS MY HOPE AND, AND MY PLAN, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE POLICY WILL ALSO GO TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, FOR ADOPTION.
I'M, I'M NOT SURE HOW ALL OF THAT WILL WORK.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS CITY HAS DONE THIS, SO, UM, THAT, THAT IS MY HOPE AND INTENT.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CAPTAIN AND THE CO-CAPTAIN OF, OF, OF, YOU KNOW THE TEAMS, YOU KNOW, THE ORGANIZATION.
THE ONE'S GONNA KIND OF TAKE THE LEAD ROLE AND THE OTHER ONE'S GONNA KIND OF, HOPEFULLY THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO, OKAY.
WELL, THE FIELDS THAT ARE GONNA BE FOR COMMUNITY ONLY, ARE THOSE GONNA HAVE A SIGN LIKE FOR COMMUNITY ONLY? 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL TENNIS COURTS.
WE'RE PRIVATE COACHES WILL COME IN AND TAKE THE WHOLE COURTS AND THEN KIDS ARE GOING UP THERE TRYING TO PRACTICE AND COACHES TAKE OVER AND SAY, WE'VE ALREADY RESERVED THESE.
BUT IT'S NOT, NOT TRUE BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, BUT THEY KIND OF COME IN AND MONOPOLIZE THE COURTS.
SO ARE THERE, IS THERE GONNA BE SOME SORT OF SIGN? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE, THAT WE WILL LOOK INTO.
TO MAKE SURE THE ORGANIZATIONS WILL FOR SURE KNOW.
UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MY TEAM AS WELL AS MYSELF WILL MONITOR, UM, WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS AND, AND THEY HAVE
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TO AGREE TO THE POLICY WHICH HAS THAT.AND THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICY, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND, AND WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO AS WELL, IS JUST SOME SIGNAGE SO THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC KNOWS, RIGHT.
BECAUSE IF THE ORGANIZATIONS KNOW AND THEY FOLLOW, BUT IF THE PUBLIC COMES IN AND THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN PLAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE COULD HAVE SOME SIGNAGE UP THAT THAT HELPS TO ILLUSTRATE IT AND SHOW THAT THIS IS AN OPEN FIELD.
TIFFANY, JUST TO KIND OF REFOCUS US THOUGH, OUR CHARGE TODAY FOR POSSIBLE ACTION IS RECOMMENDING AN RSA TO THE CITY OF COUNCIL, CORRECT? YES.
JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND.
AND I DO HAVE THE, UH, RENDERING HERE THAT I CAN SHOW Y'ALL.
UM, SO Y'ALL CAN PASS IT IF YOU WANT.
BUT THAT'S, THIS IS HOW THE DESIGN TEAM, UM, LAID IT OUT AS FAR AS THE TWO.
BUT THIS COULD ULTIMATELY BECOME A LARGE
IF Y'ALL WANNA PASS THAT OR HOWEVER THEY WANT.
IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD PUT A, A LARGE VERSION OF THIS AT THE PARK RIGHT NOW SO THAT PEOPLE SEE WHAT'S COMING.
LIKE WE DID AT PRIMROSE MM-HMM.
IF WE COULD PUT A LARGE, SORRY, LARGE VERSION OF THAT AT THE PARK SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE I KNOW WE GET QUESTIONED ALL THE TIME AND THIS WOULD MAKE IT, SO THAT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF LIKE SPACE FOR PRAC LIKE PRACTICE, BUT LIKE FOR ACTUAL GAMES IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, MINUS THOSE SMALLER FIELDS, IT'S RIGHT.
SO DEPENDING ON THE ORGANIZATION'S NEEDS, UM, YOU KNOW, I, FROM MEETING WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS, THIS, THIS PARK IS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO MY KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED IS, IS, IS GREAT AND IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED.
AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S ADDITIONAL FIELDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BUT IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT THE END ALL FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE THERE'S A GREATER NEED.
ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, AND I'LL JUST SAY HAVING SERVED ON AD HOC, THIS HASN'T CHANGED.
THAT'S THE SAME DESIGN CONCEPT THAT WAS PRESENTED MONTHS AGO.
SO JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, CONCESSION CENTER DO, WHAT ARE WE NOW WE, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO NOW? SO, UM, I WAS AN EVALUATION MEMBER ON THE OTHER ONE, SO I'M TRYING TO, UM, KIND OF RESERVE MYSELF.
UM, SO MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL WOULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU EACH WERE, UM, EMAILED THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PACKETS, UM, AS ILLUSTRATED IN THE EMAIL, EACH QUESTION HAD A SCORE.
UM, AND THEN I GAVE YOU A BLANK QUESTION AND ANSWER JUST IN CASE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE YOU WANTED TO READ THE QUESTION FOR WHAT IT WAS VERSUS MAYBE WHAT, WHAT THEY TYPED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF THERE WAS ANY CHANGES.
UM, AND THEN, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU EACH EITHER, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STATE FOR YOUR, YOU KNOW, EACH OF YOU, UM, WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS, AND THEN YOU ALL TALK ABOUT IT AND MAKE A VOTE.
OR IF YOU ALL WANT TO REPORT TO THE CHAIR WHAT YOUR SCORE IS OR SOMETHING.
UM, ARE THEY PRESENTING ANYTHING OR ARE THEY THERE QUESTIONS THEY ARE NOT PRESENTING.
SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM? OKAY.
TIFFANY, ARE WE ABLE TO ASK BOTH GROUPS IN A MINUTE OR LESS WHY THEY FEEL THEY SHOULD BE THE RSA FOR EAGLE LANDING PARK? IS THAT PERMITTED? THEY ARE AVAILABLE HERE TO YOU TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
MAY I ASK THAT QUESTION OF BOTH GROUPS IN A A MINUTE-ISH OR LESS WHY THEY FEEL, UH, THAT THEIR ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE THE RSA AT EAGLE LANDING PARK? IF YOU COULD SEND ONE REPRESENTATIVE UP TO SHARE THOSE INSIDE, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
IT COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE SO EVERYONE CAN, HERE I CAN GO
UH, FIRST OF ALL, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
UH, MY NAME IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
UH, I'VE BEEN LIVING OUT HERE IN SHIP FOR EIGHT YEARS, SO I DON'T WANNA WASTE ANY OF YOUR TIME.
UH, I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF, BRIEF EXPLANATION AND BRIEF UNDERSTANDING OF FARS, UM, MISSION, OUR GOALS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DID HERE IN THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.
SO WE'VE BEEN A CLUB THAT IS IN THE HOUSTON AREA NOW FOR 15 YEARS, UH, WITH 9,000 PLAYERS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY IN THE FLU AREA.
WE CAME IN 2018 OCTOBER, AND WE ARE PROUD MEMBERS HERE OF, UH, OF, UH, KATIE AND FELLOW CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM VERY DILIGENTLY, AND WE ARE HOPING TO GROW THIS, THIS, UH, SPORT HERE EVEN MORE.
WE HAVE GROWN FROM 2018 TO 2024 FROM 250 KIDS TO 2000 PLAYERS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.
AND, UH, WE ARE HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE ARE ACCOMMODATING ALL ABILITIES, ALL GENDERS FROM THREE TO 19 YEAR OLDS.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR SPECIAL PROGRAMS, THE TOPS PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE, I THINK NOW 12, 12 PRO 12 PLAYERS THAT ARE COMING FROM AROUND THE AREA THAT ARE NOT ABLE, UNFORTUNATELY, TO DO A LOT WITH OTHER SOCCER ORGANIZATIONS.
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THAT.ALSO, THE REASON WHY I FEEL THAT, UH, WE CAN HELP THE CITY AND, UH, WE CAN, UH, HELP THE COMMUNITY HERE, I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HEAR ME WELL, IS, UH, THE PRUNE RECORD THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE HAVE WORKING WITH, UM, WITH, UH, OTHER SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS, OTHER LEAGUES LOCALLY, ORALLY AND NATIONALLY.
UH, WE ARE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY A LOT OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.
UH, A LOT OF COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE, UH, BEEN TO THAT WE HAVE, UH, SUPPORTED.
AND I THINK, I THINK WE ARE GOING BEYOND THE GAME.
I THINK WE HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, REAL SENSE OF THE, OF THE CLUB THAT REALLY PROVIDES WHAT COMMUNITY NEED.
UH, WE HAVE, WE ARE PROVIDING THE PROGRAMMING FOR THE PLAYERS WHO WANNA DO RECREATIONAL SPORTS FOR THE PLAYERS WHO WANNA DO SOMETHING MAYBE MORE, UH, REGIONAL COMPETITIONS, NATIONAL COMPETITIONS.
ALSO, UH, AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE THE CLUB THAT, I JUST WANNA BE CAREFUL WHEN I SAY THIS.
UH, WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF PLAYERS INTO COLLEGE.
WE ARE, UH, AT CURRENTLY MORE THAN 700 PLAYERS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED SOME KIND OF SCHOLARSHIP THROUGH OUR CLUB.
SO WHY I'M SAYING THIS IS, I THINK THE, THE SCOPE OF OUR CLUB IS SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S EXCEPTIONAL.
SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN HERE NOW FOR A WHILE, AND, UH, SOMETHING THAT HAS A PROVEN RECORD OF THE GROWTH AND, UH, AND THE FUTURE GROWTH, OF COURSE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE, WE ARE GROWING WITH THIS COMMUNITY NOW FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
OUR STAFF MEMBERS, 60% OF THEM ARE FROM THIS COMMUNITY.
WE KNOW, UH, WE ARE VISITING A LOT OF SCHOOLS.
UH, WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM REALLY FREQUENTLY ASKING WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS.
WE ARE HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO ADJUST, UH, OUR PROGRAMMING.
WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
WE ARE NOT HERE TO, UH, BE THE BIGGEST CLUB IN THE WORLD.
WE REALLY WANNA HELP THE COMMUNITY AND WE REALLY WANNA BE THE ONES WHO WILL, WHO WILL CONTINUE GROWING THE CITY, WHO WILL CONTINUE GROWING THE, THE PATH OF THE, OF THE, UH, CHILDREN HERE.
AND WE ARE HOPING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO AT THE, AT THE MANSION FACILITY OVER THERE.
I CAN TALK FOR NEXT 10 MINUTES, BUT I THINK IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT SENSE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT MINUTE-ISH.
WERE Y'ALL FORMALLY DYNAMO? WERE Y'ALL THE DYNAMO? CORRECT.
AND YOU'RE AFFILIATED WITH STICE O, RIGHT? YES.
WE ARE AFFILIATED WITH STIS ON THE LOCAL LEVEL, CORRECT.
STICE HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE I PLAYED.
AND ON THE REGIONAL LEVEL, WE ARE AFFILIATED WITH NEXT LEVEL ORGANIZATION, SO.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE HAD TO SPEAK INTO A MICROPHONE.
SO, UM,
UM, I THINK THAT ONE THING THAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT FOSTER SPORTS ASSOCIATION IS THAT WE, WE SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, WE'RE NOT PUTTING A LOT OF KIDS INTO COLLEGE AS A FORMER COLLEGE ATHLETE.
UM, I UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO MAKE A COLLEGE TEAM, UH, HOW DIFFICULT IT'S TO MAKE A HIGH SCHOOL TEAM A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEAM.
AND WITH THE OUTRAGEOUS NUMBERS IN THE SCHOOL RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS WHO WILL NEVER GET OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY SPORTS.
UH, NEVER GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY SOCCER, BASEBALL, BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL.
'CAUSE THEY'LL NEVER MAKE THAT TEAM.
UM, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO GO TO CLUB SPORTS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO TRY OUT FOR THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS WHO WON'T MAKE THOSE TEAMS EITHER.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'VE KIND OF FOUND OUR NICHES THAT WE SERVE THE BROADER COMMUNITY.
SO IF YOU'RE A KID WHO'S 12 YEARS OLD AND YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED VOLLEYBALL BEFORE AND YOU WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY, WE'LL TAKE YOU.
IF YOU ARE 12 YEARS OLD, YOU'VE PLAYED VOLLEYBALL YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, WE'LL TAKE YOU, WE TAKE EVERYBODY THAT REGISTERS.
UH, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE ON THE BAND LIST THAT'S NOT BECAUSE OF OUR DOING THIS, THEY'RE DOING, UH, BUT OUR DOORS ARE OPEN TO EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO REGISTER.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE, UM, HIGH FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES EITHER.
UM, OUR SOCCER LEAGUE THIS YEAR WAS LESS THAN $200, AND THAT'S NOT PER MONTH.
UM, THOSE KIDS GET EIGHT WEEKS OF SPORTS.
UH, WE DO CROWN CHAMPIONS, OTHER TEAMS GET REWARDS, UH, MEDALS.
BUT, UM, WE'RE KIND OF THE FOUNDATIONAL OF THE ECOSYSTEM OF SOCCER IN, IN, IN, IN, IN THE AREA.
SO, UH, THE 3-YEAR-OLD, THE 4-YEAR-OLD, THE FIVE, THE 6-YEAR-OLD WHO HAS NEVER PLAYED BEFORE, UM, THEY GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN A LOVING COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY GET TO LEARN THE SPORTS FOUNDATIONALLY.
AND THEN WE, OUR GOAL IS TO PREPARE THEM FOR THE NEXT LEVEL.
SO, UM, THE KIDS WHO DO WANT TO GO INTO CLUB SPORTS OR HIGH SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO HELP YOU MOVE THROUGH US TO GET TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.
THEN WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE A FUN AND INVITING ENVIRONMENT TO, TO ENGAGE IN SPORTS.
UM, I, I LOOK AT SPORTS AND IMPACT ON MY, MY PERSONAL LIFE.
AND THE ONE THING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT WAS THAT, UM, IT WAS PRACTICE FOR LIFE.
UM, IT WAS A WAY TO KIND OF ENGAGE IN A COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT THAT, UM, ALLOWED ME TO FAIL, BUT NOT HAVE THE CONSEQUENCES OF FAILURE.
SO THAT WHEN I GOT OLDER AND I FAILED, I WAS BETTER ABLE TO, TO DEAL WITH IT.
AND AS A BASEBALL PLAYER, YOU, YOU FAIL 70% OF THE TIME, YOU MIGHT GET IN THE HALL OF FAME.
BUT IN LIFE, WHEN YOU HAVE FILL, YOU
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HAVE TO GET UP AND GO BACK TO WORK THE NEXT DAY, UH, TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS THE NEXT DAY.AND THE ONE THING I REALIZED THAT WHEN I STRUCK OUT IN THE BOTTOM OF THE NINTH THEN, AND TO LOSE THE GAME WHEN I WAS NINE YEARS OLD, I, I HAD PIZZA AFTER, UM, BUT I HAD TO WAKE UP THE NEXT MORNING AND STILL DO THOSE THINGS.
AND THOSE THAT PRACTICES WERE REALLY MADE ME INTO A BETTER PERSON.
SO, UM, MAYBE NOT EVEN 20% OF OUR KIDS EVER PLAY SPORTS IN COLLEGE.
UH, BUT THEY WILL BE PREPARED FOR LIFE ONCE THEY GET DONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
UM, AND WE DO SERVE APPROXIMATELY, UM, PER SEASON ABOUT 1800 KIDS JUST THROUGHOUT OUR SPORTS.
AND I WANNA SAY IN SOCCER THIS YEAR WE HAD ABOUT CLOSE TO 900.
I KIND OF GO TO MY STAFF WITH THAT ONE.
UH, BUT WE HAD ABOUT 900 KIDS THAT PLAYED IN OUR SOCCER LEAGUE THIS YEAR AND OVER 20 U 17.
SO, UH, WE'RE SERVING THE BROADER COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE THAT OP THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO ENGAGE IN SPORTS, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO, UH, NOT ONLY SOCCER, BUT JUST THE SOCIAL COMMUNITY AS WELL.
LAST THING I'LL SAY, UM, THIS YEAR WE HAD, ABOUT THIS SEASON WE HAD ABOUT 200 VOLUNTEERS FOR THE COMMUNITY COACHING TEAMS. UH, SO WHAT WE'RE ALSO DOING IS BRINGING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NEIGHBORS WHO MAY NEVER TALK, OR COWORKERS WHO MAY NEVER TALK, UM, ON THE WEEKENDS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADVERSARIES.
UH, SO WE'RE BRINGING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND WITH THAT AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEER SUPPORT, IT SHOWS HOW MUCH WE'RE CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW MUCH, UH, WE'VE KIND OF INGRAINED OURSELVES OVER THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS TO BE A REAL, UH, INTEGRAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
IS FSA THE, THE ONE THAT ROBERT RICE STARTED, SHAWN, UH, JUST THE ONE THAT SEAN, SEAN STARTED.
IT WAS ROBERT USED TO BE A PARKS COMMISSIONER.
IT, IT WAS CALLED ONE SPORTS NATION BEFORE THAT WAS ROBERTS.
UM, SO WHAT IS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PLAYERS THAT YOU HAVE ARE UNDER THE AGE OF LIKE EIGHT YEARS OLD? IS IT MOSTLY THE FIVE SIX? MY SON PLAYED FOR FSA WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE GUY.
SO RIGHT NOW OUR TWO LARGEST LEAGUES WHERE I USED SEVEN LEAGUE AND I USED NINE LEAGUES, SO I USED SEVEN.
HAD ABOUT, IT HAD OVER 200 KIDS IN THAT LEAGUE.
UH, WE HAD 20 TEAMS OF ABOUT 10 EACH.
UM, THE U NINE LEAGUE HAD ABOUT 16 TEAMS, SO THAT WAS OVER OVER 200 KIDS AS WELL.
SO OUT OF MAYBE THE 867 KIDS THAT WE HAD REGISTERED, I WANNA SAY OVER 50% WAS PROBABLY BETWEEN THAT U SEVEN, U NINE RANGE, U SEVEN, U NINE, YES.
C CAN I ASK A QUESTION AS WELL? AND ALSO I JUST WANTED TO DISCLOSE, I HAVE ATHLETES KIDS IN FSA AND HT X, SO I JUST WANT THAT TO BE ON THE RECORD.
SO EVERYTHING THAT I SAY IS BOTH WAYS.
BUT IN FACT, I COACHED WITH FSA FOR LIKE EIGHT SEASONS FOR SOCCER.
SO WITH THE GROWTH THAT YOU'RE SEEING, MM-HMM.
WE ACTUALLY HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THIS YEAR THAT REALLY IMPACTED THE, THE KIDS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
SO ONE IS THAT, UH, OUR U 11 FIELD, WE HAD TO CUT IN HALF.
UH, WE HAD TO PUT A, I'M SORRY, A DOUBLE SIDED GOAL AT HALF COURT SO THAT WE COULD PLAY TWO GAMES AT ONE TIME.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT YOU HAVE BALLS THAT ARE GOING FROM ONE FIELD TO THE OTHER.
UH, BUT WE RAN OUTTA DAYLIGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF GAMES IN.
UM, IF YOU GO LOOK AT OUR FIELD LAYOUT IN THE STRIPING, UM, WE HAVE MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS OR SPORTS STRIPE ON ONE FIELD.
SO IF YOU GO TO OUR U OUR U OUR U FIVE AND OUR U SEVEN FIELD, YOU'LL SEE THREE CIRCLES IN THE MIDDLE.
THERE'S ONE CIRCLE FOR FOOTBALL, AND THEN ONE CIRCLE FOR OUR U FIVE LEAGUE, AND THEN TWO CIRCLES FOR U FIVE, AND THEN ONE CIRCLE.
THIS SOUNDS CONFUSING IN YOUR HEAD.
IT LOOKS AS CONFUSING TO THE KIDS AS WELL, I PROMISE.
SO THERE'S ONE IN BLUE THAT MAY BE FOR SOCCER, ONE IN RED, THAT'S FOR FOOTBALL.
UH, SO WE'VE HAD TO GET REALLY, UH, STRATEGIC IN HOW WE USE THE FIELD.
WE HAD TO START BRINGING KIDS STARTING GAMES AS EARLY AS SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, UH, BECAUSE WE LITERALLY RAN OUTTA SPACE AND TIME TO GET ALL THE GAMES IN.
BUT WAS THAT ALSO AN ELEMENT WITH THE FOOTBALL CO COMBINING WITH SOCCER? THE SAME, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SOCCER BY ITSELF.
SO IF YOU TAKE FOOTBALL OUT, WE STILL DON'T GET DONE TILL ABOUT SIX 30 AT NIGHT.
UH, JUST WITH THE DIFFERENT SETUPS AND THE DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS.
SO WE HAVE A U 13 LEAGUE THAT PRETTY MUCH MONOPOLIZES THE WHOLE FIELD.
SO WHILE U 13 IS, WHILE U 14 IS PLAYING, WE CAN'T PLAY ANY U SEVEN OR U NINE GAMES BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING THAT, THAT FULL SPACE.
SO, UM, IT JUST BECOMES A, A HOW WE UTILIZE THE SPACE.
ARE Y'ALL STILL AT, UH, SIMONTON CHURCH OR LAYMAN? NO, THAT WAS TEMPORARILY.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS DURING COVID.
WE'RE ACTUALLY AT, WE'RE STILL AT LEHMAN.
UM, FOR MY ONLY GUYS, I, I'M A BIG FAN OF FFSA.
UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE SOCCER TOURNAMENTS? BECAUSE MY SON'S ALREADY KIND OF AGED OUTTA THAT PART.
LIKE IS IT LIKE MORE JUST GAMES ON SATURDAYS OR IS IT, DO Y'ALL ACTUALLY HAVE SOCCER TOURNAMENTS ON THE REC LEVEL? NO, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST GAMES ON SATURDAYS.
I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF INTER INTER LEAGUE.
UM, EVERYBODY PLAYING AGAINST, EVERYBODY PLANS AGAINST EACH OTHER WITHIN THE FSA
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UMBRELLA.WE DON'T HAVE ANY OUT OF TOWN OR REGIONAL EVENTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S REALLY JUST SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
ANYONE ELSE? TIFFANY, I HAVE A QUESTION.
I RE I KNOW WE HAVE A LIGHT ISSUE AT PRIMROSE IS, ARE THE EAGLE LANDING LIGHTS GOING IN RIGHT AWAY? YES, THERE ARE SOME FIELDS THAT WILL BE LIT WITH JUST THE BIG FIELDS.
OH, WORSE, THEY COULD, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, SHINE OVER UNLESS SOMETHING, UH, HAS CHANGED AND I CAN VERIFY THAT WITH THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT'S BUILDING IT.
BUT, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT WAS JUST THE LARGE FIELDS.
CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING? SURE.
I THINK, YEAH, I THINK IT'S BEST TO HAVE A KIND OF OPEN FORM LIKE THAT TO REALLY GET TO THE, I I ALSO JUST GOT TOLD WITH MY STAFF TO MENTION THAT WE DO, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE EMPLOYED ABOUT A HUNDRED LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, UH, TO SERVE AS REPS AND CONCESSIONS AS WELL.
SO, UM, IT'S A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL KIDS ARE GETTING THEIR FIRST JOB, UH, LEARNING HOW TO WORK IN A PROFESSIONAL ENVIRONMENT, LEARNING HOW TO DEAL WITH PARENTS YELLING AT 'EM AND HAVING TO COME BACK THE NEXT DAY.
SO, UM, WE'RE ALSO HAVING AN IMPACT ON THAT AS WELL.
AND THE GOAL IS TO KIND OF HAVE MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE THE SCHOOLS CAN ACTUALLY START DRAWING DOWN, UH, CTE FUNDING.
UH, 'CAUSE WE CAN ACTUALLY OFFER IT AS A COURSE TO WHERE THEY MAYBE LEARN ENTREPRENEURSHIP OR KIND OF BUSINESS MANAGEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, IT'S A WAY FOR THE STUDENTS TO KIND OF GET CREDIT WHILE THEY WORK AS WELL.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A LONG-TERM PLAN.
UH, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CONNECTION WITH THE DISTRICT, I'LL TALK TO YOU AFTER.
BUT, UM, IDEALLY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, THOSE KIDS THAT WE EMPLOY ARE GETTING THE BEST OUT OF IT AND GETTING PREPARED FOR LIFE AS WELL.
SO, UM, IS YOUR MAIN INTEREST TO HAVE PLACES FOR GAMES TO BE PLAYED ON SATURDAYS? OR IS YOUR MAIN INTEREST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PRACTICE FIELDS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WEEK FOR ALL THE TEAMS TO PLAY ON? IDEALLY IT'D BE BOTH.
UM, BUT WE ARE OPEN TO WHATEVER WE CAN KIND OF, WHAT KIND OF WORKS OUT.
BUT RIGHT NOW OUR TEAMS ARE REQUIRED TO FIND THEIR OWN PRACTICE SPACE.
SO, UM, MY SON'S TEAM, WE PRACTICED LAST NIGHT.
THEY PRACTICE JUST IN AN OPEN FIELD.
THE COACH BRINGS THEIR OWN GOALS FROM OUR HOUSE.
SO, BUT EVERY COACH DOESN'T HAVE GOALS.
SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE SOME KIDS JUST TRYING TO PRACTICING ON THE FIELD WITHOUT A GOAL OR HAVING TO, UM, GET THERE EARLY TO RESERVE IT BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE GETS ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ANY RESERVATION PROCESS.
SO, UH, RIGHT NOW OUR, OUR KIDS DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PRACTICE THE COACHES WHO ARE VOLUNTEERS, ACTUALLY, WE GIVE THEM A LIST OF ALL THE GREEN SPACES AND THEY TRY TO GET THERE EARLY AND, AND RESERVE IT SO THEY DON'T HAVE A DESIGNATED PLACE TO PRACTICE RIGHT NOW.
WHICH IS, THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR YEARS.
AND AT A CERTAIN AGE, FIVE, SIX YEARS OLD, THAT'S PRETTY EASY.
THEY ONLY NEED LIKE THAT MUCH TO PRACTICE.
BUT WHEN YOU START GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIZED, IT HELPS HAVE PRACTICES AND WHATNOT OR IT DESIGNATED FIELDS.
THEY HAVE THE LINES AND EVERYTHING TOO.
JUST KIND OF KNOW HOW TO PLAY ON THE FIELD.
WE DO HAVE SOME KIDS WHEN THEY FIRST GET OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY IN THE 7, 9 11 YEAH.
THEY'RE NOT STEPPING ON, I'M SORRY, I'M TOO MUCH HAND MOVEMENT.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT, UM, THEY'VE NEVER STEPPED ON AN ACTUAL SOCCER FIELD UNTIL THEIR FIRST GAME BECAUSE THEY PRACTICE KIND OF JUST IN OPEN SPACES, SO.
BUT I THINK I'LL SIT DOWN NOW.
WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? UH, JEREMY THOMAS.
DO WE HEAR FROM YOU VENUS, OR, UM, I INVITED THE TOP TWO SCORING.
IS THERE ANY LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE THAT GOES WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S GOING TO BE THE, THE LEAD ROLE? THE FSA OR YEAH, WE R-S-A-R-S-A.
SO, UM, AND I KNOW THERE IS, BUT I WHAT LEVEL, BECAUSE THAT'S A FINANCIAL, IT USUALLY COSTS MONEY TO MAINTAIN STUFF.
SO THE CITY WOULD, UM, I, I MEAN THERE, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS.
I KNOW I'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ORGANIZATION HAS OFFERED SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT IF IT WERE THEM, UM, WHEN WE MET PRIOR TO ALL OF THIS GOING OUT, UM, AS WELL AS, SORRY, I FORGOT TO PUT MY MIC ON.
UM, SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS OF THAT.
I'VE READ SOME STUFF ONLINE OF SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE MADE COMMENTS REGARDING THAT AS WELL AS, UM, WHEN WE, UM, PREVIOUSLY WERE MEETING WITH ORGANIZATIONS WHEN THEY WERE EXPRESSING THEIR INTEREST BEFORE, UM, THE PARK WAS EVEN IN CONSTRUCTION MAINTENANCE WAS BROUGHT UP.
UM, SO PART OF THE RFQ IT, IT, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UM, QUESTIONING NUMBER EIGHT, YES.
IT, IT, IT ALLUDED TO THE MAINTENANCE ASPECT.
I DON'T RECALL THE SPECIFIC TERMS OF THE QUESTION, BUT, UM, SO PART OF THE POLICY, UM, THAT WE HAVE IN REVIEW GOES INTO THE MAINTENANCE ASPECT OF IT FOR THE MOST PART.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE NEGOTIABLE DEPENDING ON, UM, THE COMPANY.
BUT, UM, PART OF THE POLICY, UM, ALLUDES TO THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE CITY OF SHORE MAINTAINS THE
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PARKS, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE PUBLIC PARKS, BUT THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS, UM, WHETHER IT WAS THE RSA OR AN ORGANIZATION USING IT, UM, JUST AS A RENTAL, THAT UNLESS THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STRIPING, UM, YOU KNOW, AND PAINTING OF THE FIELD LINES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.UM, IT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT ANY ORGANIZATION WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MOWING THE PARK, MAINTAINING THE BUILDING, UM, REPAIRING ANYTHING IF IT BROKE, OTHER THAN LIKE, OF COURSE, UNLESS THEY BROKE IT OR, UM, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, NEGLIGENCE ON THEIR PART OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO ON NUMBER EIGHT, IT DOES SPECIFY IN ONE RESPONSE VERSUS THE OTHER THAT SOMEONE'S TALKING ABOUT MOWING THESE OTHER THINGS AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT CITY OF RE WILL BE MOWING IT REGARDLESS, OR IS THAT A DIFFERENTIATOR BETWEEN THESE TWO BIDS? UM, THAT ONE ORGANIZATION DID REFERENCE THAT THEY COULD MOW AND THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT TO US.
UM, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE'S A, I THINK THE CITY HAS A RESPONSIBILITY, UM, TO, TO MAINTAIN PARKS.
UM, AND THEN I THINK THAT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL WHEN THEY'RE UTILIZING THOSE.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THE MOWING PART GETS A LITTLE TRICKY.
UM, IF WE ARE RESERVING A SECTION, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERING, THERE'S A PIECE OF THAT THAT'S OPEN SPACE, THAT THERE'S A PIPELINE ON.
SO WE CAN'T PUT ANY STRUCTURES ON THAT.
AND, AND, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, LIKE THAT PART IS NOT NECESSARILY OWNED IN A WAY.
UM, I'LL HAVE TO VERIFY SOME OF THAT.
BUT THE, YOU KNOW, SO IF, IF, IF THAT'S PART OF THE PART BUT NOT PART OF AN AREA THAT THEY USE, THEN DO, ARE THEY RESPONSIBLE FOR MOWING ALL OF IT? ARE THEY ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MOWING THE PIECES THAT THEY USE? UM, THEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE'S COMPANY AND YOU KNOW, ANOTHER COMPANY SLASH ORGANIZATION, UM, WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT AND THEIR DIFFERENT THINGS ON CITY PROPERTY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MAINTAINING IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT.
LIKE THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS WHEN IT GOES INTO THAT.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY, UM, A COMPLETE FACTOR OF, UM, ONE COMPANY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE.
BUT I KNOW ONE BIG ISSUE WOULD BE IF THE FIELDS ARE BEING PLAYED ON WHEN IT'S SLIGHTLY MUDDY AND THE GRASS GETS ALL MESSED UP AND, UM, THERE ARE HOLES IN THE MM-HMM.
SO I THINK BOTH, BOTH ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THAT.
SO THERE'S ASPECTS TO SAY SOMETHING IN OUR POLICY ABOUT THAT.
AND THERE'S PART OF OUR POLICY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RSA WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO REFERENCES, UM, PLAYING CONDITIONS.
SO WHEN WE WOULD CANCEL A GAME, A TOURNAMENT PRACTICE BASED OFF OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE FIELDS AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE ASPECTS, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO.
AND, AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, DAMAGES BECAUSE THEY 'CAUSE AN ORGANIZATION DIDN'T FOLLOW OR BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS OF THE GROUND WAS TOO WET AND IT DESTROYED SOME THINGS, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CITY AND THE ORGANIZATION WOULD TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS TO REPAIR THAT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, IF THEY PLAYED ON IT AND WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'M SORRY, TELL ME YOUR NAME AGAIN.
IS THE RUST
WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTENANCE, UH, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST, I DON'T WANNA SAY ISSUES, BUT THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT THAT CITY AND ORGANIZATION ARE HAVING ARE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FIELD.
IT GOES, WE CAN GO BY SECTIONS.
HOW MANY THINGS NEEDS TO BE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? IS IT RYE GRASS? IS IT MOWING? IS IT, UH, EVEN, EVEN, I'M NOT SURE IF THE PARK IS GOING TO HAVE THE, THE IRRIGATION UNDER IT.
SO WE TOOK CARE AT THE RIVER BY BAPTIST CHURCH WHEN WE USED TO USE, AND I THINK, I THINK JUST THE PROGRESS OF WHERE IT WAS SEVEN YEARS AGO, WHERE IT IS NOW AT THE MOMENT, CAN SHOW THAT, THAT, UH, WE HAVE THAT SUPPORT AND WE ARE, WE ARE, WE ALSO WANNA OFFER IT TO THE CITY.
AND WHEN I SAY TO THE CITY, I MEAN TO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY THAT CAN USE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ALSO TO SUPPORT WHATEVER IT'S NEEDED WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING SURE THAT THE FIELDS ARE MAINTAINED AT THE, AT THE, AT THE BEST POSSIBLE LEVEL.
EVEN EVEN IN SUPPORTING WITH THE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PORTABLE LIGHTS THAT WE USED TO USE THAT CAN HELP AGAIN, WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY.
AND, UM, YOU CAN SEE OUR OUTSIDE THE PARKS WHEN IT'S NOT MAINTAINED.
UH, I LIVE NEAR AMY CAMPBELL SCHOOL AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN IT'S NOT MAINTAINED, WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO THE FIELD.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHAME THAT, THAT THAT GOES TO WASTE WITHOUT PROPER MAINTENANCE.
SO WE HAVE, WE ARE DOING IT FOR MAJORITY OF THE PARKS IN THE CITY THAT WE USE.
AND AGAIN, UH, IT'S BEEN REALLY PARTICULAR, IT'S BEEN REALLY, REALLY, UH, UH, USEFUL FOR EVERYBODY.
UH, WE ARE NOW USING A COUPLE OF FIELDS HERE IN KATIE AND
SO I EVEN LISTED ON THE, ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE OVER THERE, I THINK IT'S BY BULLET POINTS WHAT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WITH FULL SOCCER, IT, IT, AND I DON'T THINK HE HAD MUCH OF AN OPTION 'CAUSE YOU'RE PLAYING ON THE SAME LITTLE BEHIND LEHMAN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IT WAS JUST A HORRIBLE QUALITY BECAUSE IT, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
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AND THAT'S JUST PART OF IT.BUT SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF SOCCER IS LIKE MAINTAINING THE, HAVING THE ABILITY AND THE WARES AND THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE MM-HMM.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL, RIGHT? 'CAUSE SOCCER'S NOT FUN TO PLAY WHEN IT'S TALL GRASS OR IN THE GROUND OR HOLES IN THE GROUND AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THAT'S GOTTA GET DIALED IN ON BECAUSE FULLER'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO, THEY'RE GONNA MOW IT.
THAT'S ALL THEY'RE GONNA REALLY, I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA DO BASIC STUFF.
UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION TOO IS THAT WE CAN DO ALL THAT.
WE JUST HAVE TO INCREASE OUR PRICES TO KIND OF MATCH OUR, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THOSE THINGS THAT WE DON'T.
SO THE REASON THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO IS BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY A COMMUNITY BASE DIRECTLY.
UH, WITH THAT WE KEEP OUR PRICES LOW SO THAT WE CAN BE OPEN TO EVERYBODY.
UM, AND WITH THAT COMES LIMITATIONS WITH FINANCIAL.
BUT IN ORDER, IF THAT WAS TO BECOME A PART OF WHAT WAS NEEDED, THEN WE JUST HAVE TO INCREASE OUR RATES TO KIND OF MATCH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS CHARGING.
AND ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE CHARGING LESS FOR EIGHT WEEKS THAN A LOT OF PLACES ARE CHARGING MONTHLY.
UM, WHICH CREATES A DIFFERENTIATION WITH THE ABILITY TO DO MAINTENANCE.
SO, UM, I THINK WITH ONE END, YOU MAY HAVE LESS PEOPLE THAT CAN USE IT 'CAUSE LESS PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THOSE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND CLUBS.
UH, BUT THEY CAN MAINTAIN IT, BUT NOT FOR SERVING THE GENERAL POPULATION THAT HAVE THE OPENNESS TO ACTUALLY USE IT.
SO I THINK THE ONE THING THAT KIND OF LIMITS US IN THAT SPACE IS REALLY WHAT KIND OF IS THE REASON WHY I FEEL LIKE WE'RE THE BEST ONE IS BECAUSE WE'RE OPEN TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE OUR PRICES AND THE AVAILABILITY OF ACCESS TO THE ORGANIZATION IS, IS LOW.
UNLESS, ONCE AGAIN, YOU GOT BANNED BEFORE.
SO, UM, IT'S VERY LOW, WHICH IS COOL FOR A LOT OF PLACES THAT, THAT NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE THAT LOW.
BUT I THINK THAT MAY BE A CONSIDERATION TO BE MM-HMM.
BECAUSE IF YOU DO THE MATH 200 DIVIDED BY EIGHT WEEKS, IT'S LIKE NO.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MAY WANNA BUDGET THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG RESPONSIBILITY FOR, TO MAINTAIN.
AND I, I THINK THE PART OF THAT ALSO IS THAT, UM, IF YOU'RE AND I, I HAVE TWO KIDS, SO YOUR KID'S REALLY INVESTED IN SOMETHING, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO PUT PUT FORTH THE MONEY.
WE'RE NOT THAT LEVEL TO WHERE LIKE, THIS KID IS DEFINITELY WANNA PLAY SOCCER AND GONNA GO TO COLLEGE AND WANTS TO, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT, HEY, I THINK I LIKE SOCCER MOM.
WHERE CAN I GO? DO I WANNA PAY $400 A MONTH TO SEE IF YOU LIKE SOCCER? OR DO I WANNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TOUCH THE WATERS? AND IF YOU DO LIKE IT, BUT NOT ON THAT LEVEL OR YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE YOUR TEAM, THERE'S ALWAYS A PLACE FOR YOU TO GO TO.
UM, IF WE KIND OF, IT'S IMPORTANT, PUSH THIS OUT, THEN WHAT YOU LEAVE IS THAT THERE'S KIDS WHO CAN'T PLAY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE A CLUB TEAM.
THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR MIDDLE SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL TEAM.
AND THERE'S NOT ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT'S SERVING THEM AT THAT, AT THAT, AT THAT PRICE POINT, AT THAT SIZE THAT HAS SHOWN TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT AMOUNT OF KIDS YEAR IN, YEAR OUT.
I MEAN THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
KIDS NEED TO HAVE AN AN OUTLET TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AND JUST 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERM, GIFTED TO BE ABLE TO PLAY A CERTAIN SPORT DOESN'T MEAN THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO.
I HAVE A FRIEND THAT DRIVES A BUS AND HER HUSBAND'S A POLICE OFFICER AND HER KIDS GREW UP DOING
BUT THEY MADE THE LAYMAN AND HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS MM-HMM.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SCHOLARSHIPS TOO.
SO I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE AREA AND THAT, THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT, HONESTLY.
SO WE, WE'LL DO SCHOLARSHIPS AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, PROGRAMS TO HELP THEM PAY, PAY FOR THE REGISTRATION FEES AS WELL.
AND GRANTED THIS IS A MUCH MORE AFFLUENT AREA AND WE COULD CHARGE A LOT MORE FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT IT'S PURPOSELY KEPT LOW, UM, FOR A REASON.
WE KIND OF RAISE OUR RATES ONLY WHEN OUR COSTS KIND OF INCREASE.
UH, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT RUN TO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF WHAT WE COULD BE CHARGING FOR WHAT WE DO.
WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING BEHIND A-A-A-A-A-A HIGH SCHOOL, I THINK THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE, 'CAUSE THOSE, DOESN'T MATTER IF THOSE GROUNDS GET RUINED MM-HMM.
BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE, IT'S A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.
THINK ABOUT JUST MOWING YOUR OWN YARD.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WITH THE FY WITH THIS BUDGET PROCESS THAT WAS APPROVED IN OCTOBER, UM, I REQUESTED A PARK MAINTENANCE WORKER AND THAT POSITION IS DEDICATED STRICTLY TO THE PARKS.
WE ALSO HAVE COVERAGE 'CAUSE OUR PARKS ARE CURRENTLY MAINTAINED BY OUR STREETS CREW.
UM, THAT TWO MOWS EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW FOR ALL OF OUR RIDE AWAYS AND OUR PARKS.
UM, SO THAT'S A BACKUP FROM WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, NEED ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE OR HELP IS WHERE OUR STREETS COME IN.
UM, SO AND I I, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE TOO THAT WHILE THE MAINTENANCE PART IS A COMPONENT OF THIS QUESTION THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR INTEREST WITHIN THE CITY OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAINTENANCE ASPECT OF THE FIELD IS REALLY AN OPERATION THING.
SO I, YOU KNOW, UH, TRUST OR I HOPE THAT YOU ALL TRUST THAT I CAN MAKE THAT DECISION OF WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR PARKS, UM, AS THE PERSON WHO'S RESPONSIBLE OF THE OPERATIONS OF THAT.
UM, SO I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A BOGGED DOWN FOR A DECISION OF Y'ALL.
'CAUSE THAT'S OPERATING THE PARK.
WHEN YOU SAY OUR STREETS CREW, DO YOU MEAN OUR MAINTENANCE GUYS? YES.
THAT'S OUR STREETS AND RIGHT AWAY DIVISION.
SO YOU HAVE THREE THERE, RIGHT? WE NOW HAVE THREE.
WE JUST GOT A NEW EMPLOYEE AND GUIDE THAT.
AND THAT'LL BE FOR ALL PRIMROSE AND
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ALL OF EAGLE LANDING? YES.BUT IT WAS PUT INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THERE WAS A NOTE, UM, IN MY REQUEST THAT ONCE PRIMROSE WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD REEVALUATE AT THAT TIME THE NEEDS BECAUSE PRIMROSE IS VERY DIFFERENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EAGLE LANDING, THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN AREA.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FENCING TREES.
UM, WHEN YOU GO TO SOMETHING LIKE PRIMROSE, ONCE IT'S BUILT OUT FOR BASEBALL FIELDS, YOU'RE TALKING FOUR FIELDS WITH A LOT OF FENCING AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THAT WAS NOTED THAT WITH PRIMROSE IT WOULD BE REEVALUATED, BUT FOR THE THIS PROCESS, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, OUT OF FAIRNESS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT ANSWER.
I, I SAW THAT YOU HAD A REBUTTAL, UM, AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT REBUTTAL IN.
AND THEN I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, OR WE MAY BE UP AGAINST TIME.
UH, I JUST WANNA MENTION A FEW THINGS.
UH, WHEN IT COMES TO PRICE POINT IN OUR CLUB, UH, WE HAVE TO, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS HERE THAT NOT ONE PLAYER GOT REJECTED BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT TO PLAY FOR OUR CLUB.
THERE IS A HUGE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM WE HAVE ACROSS THE AREA THAT WE PROVIDE FOR OUR PLAYERS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE ALSO HAVING THE RECREATIONAL PROGRAM, YOUTH ACADEMY AND COMPETITIVE PROGRAM.
WHICH IF YOU WANT TO TRY THE GAME HERE, YOU CAN TRY IT.
AND, AND, AND I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF, A LOT OF REVIEWS WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
ON THE OTHER POINT, WHEN IT COMES TO, WHEN IT COMES TO LIGHTS AND, UH, FIELD MAINTENANCE, THE LIGHTS CAN ACTUALLY HELP A LOT WITH THE FIELD ROTATION, THE FIELD USAGE.
BECAUSE IF ONLY ONE FIELD IS LIT, THEN THAT FIELD CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OVERWHELMED.
UH, I MENTIONED EARLIER, I REPEAT AGAIN, WE ARE WILLING AND HAPPY TO SUPPORT AND TO PROVIDE LIGHTING LIGHTS ALSO IF NEEDED BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM AND, AND THEN THEY ARE, UH, WE ARE USING AT THE MOMENT.
BUT WE HAVE SOME THAT THEY CAN HELP.
AND I THINK IT'LL HELP A LOT WITH THE MAINTENANCE WHEN IT COMES TO FIELD ROTATION.
I CAN SEE AS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WE HAVE, WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE FIELDS.
LIKE EVERYBODY HERE I CAN SEE IN FOOLISH HERE.
SO USING THE ONE FIELD FOR ALL THESE THINGS CAN REALLY TEAR UP THE FIELD AND, AND THE LIGHTS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, NOT DIRECTLY MAINTAINING THE FIELDS, IT CAN REALLY, REALLY COME AS A, AS A HUGE HELP FOR THE, FOR THE FACILITIES.
SO YOUR, YOUR REC PROGRAM, YOU HAVE A REC PROGRAM? CORRECT.
WHAT AGE DOES THAT REC PROGRAM GO UP TO? IT GOES TO U 11, U 11, UP TO THE REC PROGRAM.
WHAT'S THE COST OF THE REC PROGRAM FOR $250 PER SEASON.
OH, AND YOUR SEASONS ALSO EIGHT WEEKS.
AND IN FALL, IN SPRING IT'S 12.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS? MM-HMM.
HOW SHALL WE DO THIS, TIFFANY? UM, UM, IF EACH MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO STATE WHO THEIR, YOU KNOW, OR IF Y'ALL WANT TO, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON, I THINK HOW IF YOU, EACH OF YOU SCORED THE PACKET, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU, AND THEN WE TALLY THE SCORES.
OR IF YOU DIDN'T SCORE THE PACKET AND YOU JUST REVIEWED IT AND HAVE YOUR, UM, CHOICE FROM THERE, THEN YOU KNOW, I, YEAH.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US JUST EACH OF US MAKE OUR PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION AND SEE WHERE WE LAND AND IN, IN, IN THAT CONVERSATION.
AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THE ACTION.
ARE YOU SAYING WITH LIKE, COLOR COMMENTARY OR LIKE THIS OR THIS? I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COUPLE SENTENCES AS TO WHY I MADE MY DECISION.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE COMMENTARY.
AND THEN I THINK AFTER WE ALL SAY HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
BUT THEN WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION OF WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS MOVING FORWARD.
HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT TIED, UH, BUT THAT COULD BE LIVELY.
DO YOU WANNA START SARAH? DO YOU WANT ME TO START? WELL, I PROBABLY HAVE A LOT TO SAY.
DO YOU WANT ME TO START? I CAN BE THE LAST IN WHATEVER YOU WANT.
I WOULD SAY, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE WHAT FSA DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT THAT THE IDEA OF IT BEING LIKE THE BE BEGINNING THE BASE ROUTE FOR SOCCER IS, IS IMPORTANT.
ESPECIALLY FOR OL THEY ARE THE CHOICE OF REC SOCCER AS IT IS FOR OUR LITTLE AREA.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, DOES THAT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY, THIS SHOULD BE HAVING THESE FIELDS FOR REC SOCCER? AND THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF HAVE MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION FOR THAT.
BUT I DO THINK, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT IN DEPTH ABOUT WHAT'S THE POTENTIAL FOR BRINGING TOURNAMENTS IN AND BRINGING, BEING
I DON'T THINK THAT FSA SHOULDN'T NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE FIELDS AT SOME POINT IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO DO THAT.
THE HYBRID WHERE THERE'S LIKE EXTRA FIELD AVAILABLE OR SOME SORT OF SITUATION THERE.
I'VE LITERALLY JUST BEEN ON A TOUR OF SOCCER OF HOUSTON 'CAUSE WE'VE JUST MOVED FROM RE TO HCX THIS FALL AND I'VE BEEN ANY SOCCER FIELD, YOU COULD PROBABLY BE IN THIS, IN THIS CITY.
AND THE FIELDS THAT WERE MANAGED
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OR WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU CALL, LIKE PARTNERSHIP WITH A BIGGER ORGANIZATIONS.THOSE FIELDS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BETTER.
THE QUALITY OF THE FIELDS, WHAT THE KIDS ARE PLAYING ON AGAIN, DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT? NO, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED.
AND UM, SO I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A HUGE GROWTH THAT'S GOING OUT IN SOCCER IN GENERAL, JUST ALL YOUTH SPORTS.
SOCCER IS GROWING QUITE A BIT AND I THINK WE ARE MISSING THAT IN THIS AREA.
WE DO NOT HAVE A FACILITY THAT'S CAPABLE OF DOING ANYTHING AT THAT HIGHER LEVEL FOR, FOR SOCCER.
AND IT'S A TRAVESTY BECAUSE OUR PLAYERS ARE HAVING TO TRAVEL TO THE WOODLANDS, TO CONROE, TO CLEAR LAKE, TO ALL THESE OTHER PLACES BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE EQUIVALENT OR NECESSARY FOR THAT LEVEL SOCCER PLAY.
WE DO NOT HAVE THAT HERE CURRENTLY.
AND SO IF WE DO NOT BUILD IT HERE, WE WILL NEVER HAVE IT HERE.
THOSE PLAYERS WILL ALWAYS BE COMING FROM THOSE OTHER REGIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW IS THAT THE CITY OF RE'S PROBLEM? NO, IT'S NOT.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY, MY RECOMMENDATION OF BHTX.
UM, I'M GONNA, EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M A NUMBERS PERSON, SO JUST BASED ON THE FEES AND THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN SERVED, I WOULD PROBABLY LEAN TOWARDS, UH, FS
UM, I'M A NUMBERS PERSON TOO, OBVIOUSLY I DO THAT.
UM, HTXI THINK WOULD BE A BETTER FIT FOR THE CONSERVATIVE SHIP OF BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE REC FOR $150 A POP.
I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SO THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY.
THEY ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THE NEXT LEVEL, I THINK.
I THINK, UH, FSA IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
UM, I LOVE THE ASPECT OF IT, BUT I ALSO LIKE THE ASPECT OF, UM, TAKING THINGS TO THE NEXT LEVEL, UH, STRIVING AND, AND, AND I JUST THINK THAT THE CONSERVATORSHIP SHOULD BE A BIGGER ESTABLISHED ORGANIZATION THAT CAN ACTUALLY OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
I ABSOLUTELY 100% THINK THAT FFSA SHOULD HAVE RIGHTS TO THE FIELD AS WELL.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BOTH HAVE RIGHTS FOR THE FIELDS, BUT I THINK THAT HTX IS BETTER EQUIPPED FOR THE LONGEVITY FOR THE NEXT 10, 15 YEARS OR HOWEVER LONG IT IS TO, TO DEVELOP SOCCER AS A WHOLE.
BUT, UH, HTX IS GONNA BE MY DECISION FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS FOR MAINTAINING THE FIELDS FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR, UH, THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. BUT HOPEFULLY THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER IN COMBINATION TOGETHER.
I DON'T SEE WHY THEY SHOULDN'T WORK TOGETHER.
I THINK AFTER THIS MEETING THEY SHOULD TALK AND TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE BOTH OF 'EM.
I, YOU, I I AGREE WITH BOTH OF THEM.
I THINK IF AT ALL POSSIBLE THAT FSA COULD RUN THE YOUNGER PROGRAMS BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN CHILDREN ARE DECIDING IF THEY WANT TO PLAY SOCCER OR THEY HATE IT OR WHATEVER.
IT'S THOSE YOUNG AGES THAT THEN COULD GRADUATE TO HTX AND MORE SERIOUS GAMES, MORE SERIOUS PLAY.
BUT YOU DIDN'T, YOU NEED THAT INITIAL TRY TRYOUT.
UM, SO IDEALLY FOR ME, FSA WOULD RUN THE, THE WHAT, U SEVEN TO NINE U SEVEN TO NINE OR YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT AGE YOU START FOUR TO THE LITTLE GUYS, THE LITTLE GUYS, LITTLE GIRLS, LITTLE GUYS.
AND THEN GRADUATE TO HTX AS MORE SERIOUS COMPETITIVE SPORT.
SO I WOULD SAY HTX AND, AND IN COOPERATION WITH FSA IF POSSIBLE.
UM, FIRST I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT THE CITY HAS BROUGHT US IN TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY OF SHORE AND OUR, OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE GETTING TO VOICE WHAT WE FEEL OUR RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE.
UM, AND ALSO I THINK HTX AND FSA ARE BOTH GREAT ORGANIZATIONS.
SO I THINK WE ARE IN A WONDERFUL PREDICAMENT THAT WE HAVE TWO GREAT ORGANIZATIONS SITTING IN FRONT OF US TODAY.
UM, PERSONALLY I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PARK FOR SO LONG ABOUT IT BEING REVENUE, GENERATING IT, SERVING THE COMMUNITY, PROVIDING, UM, THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOCCER HERE IN SHORE.
AND, AND PERSONALLY I FEEL THAT I WANNA SEE THE RESIDENTS OF SHORE BE SERVED FIRST AND FOREMOST WITH THAT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NO RE KIDS IN HTX.
I THINK THAT, UH, FSA PROVIDES A COMMUNITY SERVICE TO THOSE KIDS THAT ARE WANTING TO TRY OUT SOCCER AND WANTING TO GET THEIR FIRST, UH, TRY AT IT.
AND, AND AS A MOM THAT HAS A FOOTBALL PLAYER, I'M NOT IN SOCCER.
I UNDERSTAND THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS OF SHARING FIELDS FROM MULTIPLE DIFFERENT SPORTS,
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THE DIFFERENT LINES.AND ALTHOUGH IT IS AN ENTRY LEVEL, UM, EXPERIENCE, IT GETS VERY CONFUSING.
IF IT'S THE RED LINE, THE BLUE LINE, THE THE ORANGE LINE, THE YELLOW LINE, UM, SOMETIMES YOU JUST GO WITH THE LINE THAT BENEFITS YOU, BUT TOMATO, TOMATO.
UM, SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, LOCAL ACCESS HAS BEEN IMPORTANT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT OFTEN.
I WOULD LOVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO WORK TOGETHER.
I THINK THE, THE TOURNAMENT PIECE OF HTX COULD BRING THAT REVENUE GENERATION.
UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, FOR THE SPORTS SKILLS FOR THE SERVICE TO THE CITY OF COMMUN OF OF SHORE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RSA BE WITH FSA.
THAT'S A LOT OF ACRONYMS, UM, FOR THE, THE SIMPLE BENEFIT OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR SRE KIDS.
UM, I THINK AS A TOURNAMENT COMPETITIVE MOM IN BASEBALL, I EXPECT TO TRAVEL AROUND THE LOVELY, UH, TOWN OF, OF HOUSTON.
UM, BUT I THINK FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S GETTING STARTED AND, AND LEARNING FUNDAMENTALS, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THAT COULD BE IN THEIR BACKYARD, UM, ON FIELDS THAT ARE, ARE, ARE APPROPRIATE.
SO THEREFORE MY RSA VOTE IS FOR FSA.
AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR COMING BOTH OF Y'ALL.
WE APPRECIATE, UM, YOUR PRESENTATION.
THEY PLAYED FOR BOTH OF Y'ALL.
UM, I THINK KIMBERLY PRETTY MUCH SAID SHE'S VERY MUCH MORE ELOQUENT THAN I, UM, KIND OF SAID.
I, I, I THINK I'D PROBABLY GO WITH FSA JUST FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, HTX HAVE ACCESS TO THE FIELDS TOO.
I, AGAIN, TRAVEL A LOT FOR BASEBALL AND OTHER SPORTS AND IT'S NEVER IN THIS AREA.
SO, UH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF TOURNAMENT WITH HTX SET UP.
SO, AND I, I DID, 'CAUSE THE TOURNAMENT WORD HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES.
SO, UM, TOURNAMENT IS AN ASPECT OF THE POLICY AS WELL.
UM, AND, AND THAT CAN BE WHETHER IT'S, UH, HTX, UM, REGARDLESS OF WHO THE RSA IS.
BUT, UM, IF HDX WANTED TO HOST A TOURNAMENT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD ALWAYS PARTNER WITH THE CITY ON, WHETHER THEY'RE THE RSA OR NOT.
UM, AS WELL AS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY HOST TOURNAMENTS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED TO BRING TO THIS AREA.
UM, WE'RE, I'M, I'M TRYING TO BUILD LIKE A FEE STRUCTURE THAT'S FOR THE RSA FOR INDIVIDUAL GROUPS, UM, OR, OR INDIVIDUALS OR USER GROUPS, AND THEN AS WELL AS TOURNAMENT PLAY.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD ALWAYS BE AN OPTION, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHO THE RSA IS, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH TAKE IT OUTTA THE EQUATION.
IF, IF EVERYBODY'S PLAYING ON, IF SOMEONE'S PLAYING ON SATURDAYS, YEAH.
BUT IT, IT'S GONNA BE OUTTA THE EQUATION FROM THE PACKETS.
THE, SOMETIMES THEY PLAY AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
UM, HDX, IF I'M NOT, IF I DIDN'T MISUNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THEY PLAY FOR A LOT LONGER TIME OF SOCCER THAN, UM, FSA DOES.
IF I, FROM MY MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE AND THINGS, UM, THEIR SEASONS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
UM, AND THEN AS WELL AS, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT RESERVING IF YOU RESERVE, UM, SOME CITIES HAVE TOURNAMENTS OPEN FOR LIKE THREE YEARS IN ADVANCE THAT IF YOU WANT TO RENT FOR A TOURNAMENT, YOU CAN DO THAT THREE YEARS IN ADVANCE.
SO IF SOMEBODY DOES THAT, THEN THAT JUST MEANS THAT THAT WEEKEND'S NOT AVAILABLE TO SOMEONE TO WORK ON THE SCHEDULE.
SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO NOW? YEAH.
WHAT DO WE DO, TIFFANY? THE QUESTION WOULD BE WITH THE TIDE.
DO WE HAVE TO, AND I'M JUST EXPLORING, DO WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION MAKING A RECOMMENDATION? OR CAN THE RECOMMENDATION BE THAT WE WERE SPLIT FOR CITY COUNCIL? WHAT IS EXPECTED OF TODAY? UM,
I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE CAN ASK THIS QUESTION.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA CHANGE THEIR VOTE? I THINK THE ANSWER'S GONNA BE NO.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE A MEMBER MISSING, UM, WHO UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CAST THEIR VOTE.
UM, AND MIGHT EVEN HAVE TO ABSTAIN.
SO THEREFORE, I'M JUST CURIOUS.
I MEAN, WE ARE A RECOMMENDATION.
THIS IS NOT, UH, WE ARE TAKING ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION.
CAN THE ACTION BE THAT WE WERE SPLIT THREE AND THREE? OR MUST WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE? I'D LIKE TO, TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WERE SPLIT.
AND, UM, IF, IF NOT, I CAN HAVE SOME INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS.
IF IT'S NOT OKAY, THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH AND, UM, MAKE A FINAL, ASSUMING THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE PRESENT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
WELL, AND I, I APOLOGIZE TO BOTH GROUPS 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF FINALITY.
I KNOW IT'S STEP TWO OF STEP THREE.
SO, UH, I, I I JUST THINK APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU AND THE INPUT AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR SOCCER AND OUR KIDS AND OUR YOUTH, UM, APPLIES TO BOTH OF YOU.
UM, BUT UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SPLIT.
I, I GOT ANOTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTION.
I, UM, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PLAYERS FOR HTX OVER HERE ARE FULL SURE RESIDENTS? HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO FIND THAT OUT? IT'S, UM, CAN
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I SPEAK FROM HERE OR DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THERE? GO TO THE MIC, PLEASE.I'M JUST CURIOUS THAT OUT ONE THINGS IS RECORDED.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT FULL HERE AND, AND NO KNOCK AGAINST ANYBODY OR H CX WE WANT, I THINK THE, THE, AND ME INCLUDED, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS PART JUST FOR FULL SURE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, BECAUSE I PLAY A LOT OF SOCCER, YOU DON'T WANNA LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT IT TO BE PRIMARILY ER KIDS.
UM, WHAT, WHAT PERCENTAGE, UH, WOULD YOU SAY THAT MOST OF THE KIDS, OR AT LEAST RE THE GENERAL AREA IS IS, IS HCX? IT'S A MAJORITY OF OUR MEMBERS ARE FROM ER AREA.
WHEN I SAY MAJORITY, I MEAN MORE THAN 60%.
AND IT'S, THAT PART HAS BEEN ONLY GROWING.
MY DAUGHTER'S TEAM IS LIKE 80%.
LIKE WE, WE TRANSFERRED LIKE ALMOST HALF OF OUR REC TEAM TO HT X THIS FALL.
WELL, AND ONCE WE HAVE FIELDS, THEY'LL ALL COME IN.
I MEAN, IT'S, A LOT OF THEM HAVEN'T PLAYED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DRIVE TO CONROE OR WHEREVER.
BUT I WANNA SAY, BECAUSE, AND I'LL BE REALLY CONFIDENT, CONFIDENT ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE OFFER, WE ARE ATTRACTING MORE, MORE PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE AREA, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, BUT ALSO FFSA ALSO SUPPORTS STUDENTS OR ATHLETES THAT ARE NOT IN THE RE RESIDENCE.
THEY ARE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
I MEAN, WHAT THEY OFFER FOR A REC LEAGUE IS A COMPETITIVE REC, WHICH IS VERY HARD TO FIND OTHERWISE.
AND SO PEOPLE FROM, I, I HAVE PEOPLE ON MY TEAM THAT WERE FROM ALL THE WAY ACROSS KA YEAH.
AND SO SAME, IT'S LIKE THIS RICHMOND, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY THAT THEY'RE BOTH OFFERING A SOCCER SOLUTION, BUT THEY'RE NOT ONLY FULL RESIDENTS BY ANY MEANS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY FAIR COMMENT.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I THINK FROM THE, UM, INITIAL EXPERIENCING SOCCER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MOST LIKELY AN INDIVIDUAL START WITH HTX.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S UNIQUE TO, TO KATIE.
IF YOU GO UP TO THE WOODLANDS, THEIR REC PROGRAM.
HTX IS THE, THE, LIKE THE CHOICE OF REC SOCCER.
HERE WE'VE HAD SUCH A GREAT SOLUTION WITH FSA, THAT TRANSITION HAS NOT HAPPENED.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT PERVASIVE ACROSS ALL OF THE FAIR, THE TOWN FAIR.
I, I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE THOUGH, IF WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF SOLIDIFIED AND HAVE A LONGSTANDING WITH THAT GROUP, WHY FORCE KIDS OR FAMILIES TO NO LONGER BE ABLE TO USE US AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE WANT ALL YOU GUYS TO GO TO HTX.
THAT'S KIND OF BEEN WHAT WE DO AND WHO WE ARE.
UM, THEY HAD THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO BRAND A LABEL OR TO SERVE THAT COMMUNITY, AND THEY CHOSE NOT TO.
BUT THAT'S THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CHOSE TO SERVE, AND THAT'S WHO WE SERVE EVERY, EVERY, EVERY SEASON.
SO, UM, ONCE AGAIN, THAT WASN'T BY, UH, HAPPENSTANCE.
THAT WAS THE CHOICE THAT WAS MADE.
THAT THIS IS THE POPULATION, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE, THE SAME CHOICE THAT THEY MADE WHEN THEY MOVED HERE AS WELL.
SO, UM, WE, WE BUILT THAT STANDING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THEN TO SAY, WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHO YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE LAST FIVE, SIX, OR SEVEN YEARS OF WHO YOU'RE OLDEST PLAY WITH.
UM, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S JUST, UH, SOMETHING WE TAKE HAPHAZARDLY OR KIND OF, BUT WILL Y'ALL BE LOSING YOUR FIELDS IN THE, ARE YOU LOSING THE CONTRACT WITH THE, THE SCHOOLS TO BE ABLE TO STILL USE LEHMAN GOING FORWARD? NO, WE'RE NOT.
SO THE SOLUTION WOULD STILL BE AVAILABLE.
SO, BUT I, I WILL SAY THIS THOUGH.
THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE WITH, WITH USING THE SCHOOLS IS THAT IT'S A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE PROCESS.
SO IF SOMEONE, UM, SAW OUR, OUR LEAGUE DATES, UM, AND DECIDED THAT, HEY, WE WANT TO BOOK THOSE SAME DATES, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR.
WE HAD A DISGRUNTLED COACH WHO DECIDED THAT HE WANTED TO GO BEHIND US ONE AFTER WE POSTED OUR DATES AND RESERVED THE SAME DATES.
SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIGHT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
'CAUSE WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO USE THOSE FIELDS BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT DIDN'T LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE DID THAT NOW WANTS TO KIND OF DISRUPT OUR WHOLE PROCESS.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY, FOR OUR SPRING SEASON, MAY NOT HAVE A FIELD TO USE TO ACTUALLY SERVE THE KIDS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE PARTNERSHIPS.
AND REALLY WHAT IT IS, IS A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS.
SO, UM, ANYBODY, IF YOU DECIDED YOU WANTED TO START UP A LEAGUE WITH 20 KIDS AND YOU RESERVED THE FIELD BEFORE WE DID, WE CANNOT USE THOSE FIELDS.
UM, AND THAT'S, THIS, THAT'S IN NO REGARD TO HOW MUCH, UH, WE PAY FOR, UM, THE RENTALS AT THE SCHOOLS OR HOW LONG THAT PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN IN PLACE.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A CHECK-IN EVERY DAY TO SEE IF THE DATES HAVE BEEN POSTED ON
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T RESERVE 'EM FIRST, WE CAN'T USE IT.
I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS JUST A MATTER OF CONSERVATIVE SHIP.
WE ALL LIKE BOTH, THEY ALL BOTH HAVE THEIR, THEIR THEIR THINGS.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHO BOTH.
HOW, HOW LONG IS A CONSERVATIVE SHIP FOR RSA? IS IT PER PER YEAR OR, AND I'M SORRY IF I DON'T, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT, BUT IS IT NO, IT'S OKAY.
IT'S, UM, NOT NECESSARILY DETERMINED JUST YET.
UH, SOME DO IT EVERY THREE YEARS.
UM, WHAT'S DIFFERENT WITH OTHER CITIES VERSUS US IS, UH, A LOT OF OTHER CITIES, UM, FROM MY RESEARCH AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE, UH, HAVE A LOT MORE FIELDS AVAILABLE.
SO THEY HAVE, UM, LIKE A LIST OF
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RSAS THAT THEY ACCEPT.AND SO MULTIPLE, THERE'S MULTIPLE RSAS AND THEN THEY, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ONES USE DIFFERENT FIELDS OR DIFFERENT PARKS, DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE HERE, UM, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE EVERY YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT MUCH, UM, TO GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS OF THE QUESTIONS AND, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT I JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REALLY NAIL DOWN WHAT IS, WHAT IS LONG ENOUGH.
BUT NOT TOO LONG, AT LEAST TWO YEARS TO GET YOUR, GET YOUR FEET WET AND LOW, WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND GET THE ROPES A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEN YOU DON'T WANT TOO LONG.
'CAUSE THEN WE'RE LIKE, GOD, THIS IS A DISASTER.
WELL, AND IT'S, IT'S A, A GROWING PROCESS, RIGHT? RIGHT.
THIS IS NEW FOR THE CITY, SO WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL FIGURING OUT WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
I THINK IF WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITH THESE TWO ORGANIZATIONS, WE'VE GOT TWO GREAT ORGANIZATIONS OF DOING GREAT THINGS FOR OUR KIDS.
UM, WELL, AND I DON'T THINK EITHER ARE GOING TO TURN ANYONE AWAY BECAUSE THEY LIVE SOMEWHAT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I MEAN, NAH, I I DID WANNA NOTE ON THAT TOO 'CAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
SO PART OF THE POLICY WILL HAVE A RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENT THAT IS VERY COMMON FOR CITIES.
UM, SO IN AN EXAMPLE, TO TAKE IT, TO USE A COMPARISON THAT IS NOT RELATED TO FIELDS
UM, SO THE CITY I CAME FROM IN OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE, UM, SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S PROGRAMMING THAT THEY OFFER OR IF THEY HAVE A RECREATION CENTER THAT THEY HAVE MEMBERSHIP BASED AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, IF YOU ARE A TAXPAYER, RIGHT, THEN YOUR TAX PAYING DOLLARS WENT INTO BUILDING THAT OR PAYING FOR THAT PROGRAM OR WHATEVER THE SERVICE MAY BE.
UM, IF YOU'RE NOT A TAXPAYER, IF YOU'RE NOT A RESIDENT, THEN YOU, YOU HAVEN'T PAID FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. UM, SO THEY HAVE RESIDENT RATES AND NON-RESIDENT RATES.
AND, UM, WITH THAT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE FIELD, SO LIKE IN AN EXAMPLE OF PROGRAMMING, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT WAS A, UM, AN ART CLASS THAT WAS BEING TAUGHT BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE, THERE'S A RESIDENT RATE AND A NON-RESIDENT RATE, AND THERE'S A PERCENTAGE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE RESIDENT IS ALREADY PAYING FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW, IS CONTRIBUTING TO THOSE THINGS BY THEIR TAX DOLLARS VERSUS A NON-RESIDENT IS NOT PAYING FOR ANYTHING.
UM, RELATED TO THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A RESIDENT.
SO IN THE, UM, ASPECTS FOR FIELDS, THERE ARE, UM, CITIES THAT HAVE THAT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
UM, SOME CITIES HAVE UP TO LIKE 70%, WHICH IS A LITTLE STRONG, I THINK, BUT, UM, EASIER BECAUSE IN THAT CITY IT'S A MUCH LARGER POPULATION.
UM, BUT SOME CITIES DO LIKE 50 TO 60%.
TO MAKE SURE THIS FULL PEOPLE PLAYING ON THE FULL FIELDS, RIGHT.
BUT YOU WANT, LIKE FOR AN AREA WHERE WE ARE, IF THERE WAS A CHILD FROM SIMONTON OR WALLACE OR SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CLOSE, BUT THERE'S JUST NOTHING OFFERED IN THEIR COMMUNITY, UM, THEY, THEY WOULD BE STILL BE ABLE TO PLAY WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS.
AS LONG AS THOSE ORGANIZATIONS COULD MEET THAT THERE'S LIKE A 50 OR 60%, UM, RESIDENCY OF THEIR WHOLE ORGANIZATION BEING IN SHORE OR OF THEIR LOCAL PART, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT OF THE KIDS THAT ARE HERE, AT LEAST 50 TO 60%.
AND I THINK FROM SOME OF THE STUFF THAT I'VE SEEN, LIKE, I FEEL LIKE BOTH ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET THAT, OKAY, WELL ARE WE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION NOW OR ARE WE JUST TRYING TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND HAVE OUR FINAL DECISION OR WHATEVER WE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON IF WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, ACTION OR JUST ANY COUNCIL WITH THAT WE SPLIT.
SHOULD WE MAKE SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RE WE ARE SPLIT ON THE RECOMMENDATION AND VOTE ON IT.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE A MOTION? WOULD THAT BE WHAT WE NEED TO DO, TIFFANY? YEAH.
'CAUSE WE DID ASK FOR AN ACTION THAT WAY.
IF THAT IS THE ACTION THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT IS THAT Y'ALL WERE SPLIT, UM, 50 50 WITH ONE ABSENT MEMBER, THEN UM, I CAN AT LEAST RECORD THAT AND, UH, Y'ALL VOTE ON THAT.
AND THEN THAT CAN BE MY, MY CHARGE FORWARD.
UNLESS, UM, INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS FEEL LIKE WE, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO COME UP WITH A SOLID VOTE.
I THINK BEFORE WE DO THAT, I THINK IS THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT AND THINKING THROUGH? BECAUSE IF WE SEND US A SPLIT VOTE, WE'RE BASICALLY PUTTING IN A NO VOTE, THEY'RE GONNA GO WITH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
BUT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE PRESENT FOR THE MEETING TO HEAR ALL THIS STUFF TOO.
I GUESS THEY'RE GONNA WANT LISTEN TO THE RECORDINGS.
YEAH, THEY, BUT WE ARE RECORDED SO THEY CAN GO BACK AND THEY CAN LISTEN, WHICH IS LOVELY.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THAT WOULD SEEMS TO ME THEY NEED TO BE TALKING TO THOSE PEOPLE.
THIS, THAT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA MAKE THE DECISION.
WILL THESE ORGANIZATIONS BE GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING? UH, WE WOULD EXTEND, I'M SURE, AN IMITATION TO LET THEM KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW,
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WHICH ORGANIZATION WE WOULD BE, UM, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, AND, AND WHAT MEETING IT WOULD GO.UM, I'M SURE THAT I WILL COMMUNICATE THAT WITH EACH OF THEM SO THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO BE PRESENT, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS ANYTHING, SHOULD IT BE NECESSARY.
SO TO SARAH'S COMMENT, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE ADDRESSED WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND UNLESS SOMEBODY IS FEELING LIKE THEY WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE, WHICH IF IT'S HAPPENED, IT'S HAPPENED, THAT WOULD SWING US ONE OVER BEING SPLIT.
I'M NOT HEARING THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE.
UM, ARE THE FIELDS FOR FSA, WOULD THEY BE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR SOCCER OR WERE YOU GONNA UTILIZE THEM FOR FOOTBALL AS WELL EXCLUSIVELY FOR SOCCER? DO YOU AND WHAT, WHAT ARE THE AVERAGE SIZE FIELDS ON THIS? I I JUST, I JUST FEEL LIKE YOU, YOU, I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU WOULD ONLY NEED THAT THE SMALLER GROUP OF FIELDS.
I FEEL LIKE YOU WOULD ONLY NEED A SMALLER GROUP OF FIELDS FOR THE MOST PART.
UNLESS, UH, HAVE YOU SEEN THIS MAP? I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT MAP.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I'M THINKING YOU WOULD NEED THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS MAYBE OCCASIONAL THIS, THIS IS RARE.
LIKE UNLESS YOU GOT A LOT OF OLDER KIDS REC AND SO I WOULD SAY WITH THIS SIZE, WE WOULD PROBABLY, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 70 TOTAL SOCCER TEAMS. 70 TOTAL SOCCER TEAMS? YES.
SO THAT'S FROM U FIVE TO U 14.
SO THAT'S KIDS AGES THREE TO 14 YEARS OLD.
UM, THE LARGEST GROUP IS THE SEVEN U GROUP.
SO THAT, THAT'S KIDS THAT ARE FIVE AND SIX.
THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE THIS SIZE HERE.
UH, THE NEXT GROUP IS, THE NEXT LARGEST GROUP IS GONNA BE U NINE.
THAT'S ABOUT 16 TEAMS. UH, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ABOUT 212 KIDS.
WHAT, WHAT SIZE IS THAT? THAT'S GONNA BE MORE THIS, IT'S PROBABLY BE MORE THIS SIZE.
WELL, YOUR CURRENT U NINE FIELDS ARE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS YOUR U SEVEN FIELDS, EXCEPT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
SO WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO MAKE THE U NINE FIELDS LARGER, SO WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP THEM THE SAME SIZE, WHICH IS REALLY THIS FIELD RIGHT HERE.
BUT I DON'T THINK EVEN THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE U NINE AGE IS A LARGER FIELD AT THAT SAY, AGE.
LIKE IT, THAT IS A PRETTY APPROPRIATE AGE FOR THAT SIZE FIELD FOR THAT AGE.
U NINE FOR, FOR CLUB SOCCER AND U NINE FOR REC SOCCER CAN PLAY ON DIFFERENT FIELDS.
I KNOW TOO, BECAUSE WELL, AND THE WAY THAT THEY SET UP THESE LARGER FIELDS, THEY SET 'EM UP SO THAT THEY COULD BE TWO OF THE MEDIUM FIELDS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE UTILIZE AS WELL.
UM, SO THEN WHEN YOU GET TO U 11, U 14, WE'RE TALKING MORE DEFINITELY THIS SIZE.
MORE THIS SIZE FOR U 14, UH, WE DO OFFER U 15.
UH, IT DOESN'T MAKE EVERY SEASON, SO WE COMBINE SOME OF IT AT TIMES.
UH, BUT EVEN WITH THAT GROUP YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE EIGHTEENS WITH THAT AS WELL.
IF THAT, THAT'S EIGHTEENS PLAYING AGAINST EACH OTHER.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE A, THAT'S ONLY FOUR GAMES.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT, UM, YEAH, YOU'D BE ABLE BEFORE LUNCH.
SO, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FIELD UTILIZATION FOR LIKE PRACTICES DURING THE END SEASON, IT'S LIKE A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME.
YOU'RE TALKING SEPTEMBER THROUGH NOVEMBER FOR FSA? YEAH.
SO WE HAVE, OUR SEASONS GO FROM SEPTEMBER TO NOVEMBER, AND ALSO WE GO FROM UM, MARCH TO MAY.
SO THEN FOR, FOR HT X, THERE'S THEIR START AND IT'S AUGUST THROUGH DECEMBER AND THEN JANUARY THROUGH MAY.
FROM A FIELD UTILIZATION PERSPECTIVE, SO ARE ALL OF THESE TIMES IN EACH ONE OF THESE US USER OR ORGANIZATIONS ARE USING THE FIELDS? IS IT PER DAY PER, LIKE, HOW WOULD THOSE RATES BE ACCOMPLISHED FOR, BECAUSE AGAIN, LIKE I KNOW WHAT WE'RE SAYING, BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UTILIZATION, HCX WILL DEFINITELY HAVE LONGER TIMES ON THOSE FIELDS.
EVEN IF IT IS DURING THE WEEK FOR PRACTICE OR IF IT IS FOR, FOR GAMES FOR THE SEASONS, I THINK SHOULD, GETTING AT, FOR THE MOST PART, RE'S GONNA PRACTICE ONCE A WEEK, MAYBE TWICE IF THAT, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY PRACTICE TWICE A WEEK BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY JUST LIKE MM-HMM.
IT'S TO STAY IN SHAPE AND FOR YOUR KID TO GET OFF THE XBOX, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT REC IS GONNA BE FOR.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE PRACTICE FIELDS WILL BE USED DURING THE WEEK VERSUS LIKE COMPETITIVE SOCCER MORE AND MORE OF HTX.
THOSE KIDS ARE LIKE, THOSE KIDS ARE LIKE GOING TO BE THERE LIKE'S GONNA BE THERE.
LIKE IF YOU'RE IN THE, IF YOU'RE IN THE COMPETITIVE, THEY'VE, IT'S REC ONE WEEK, ONE DAY A WEEK, THREE DAY A WEEK FOR COMPETITIVE.
AND THEN FOR FSA IT'S UP TO THE COACH'S DISCRETION.
IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE MULTIPLE PRACTICES OR WHATNOT.
BUT WELL, AND I'LL JUST SAY RESPECTFULLY, RESPECTFULLY, I DON'T MEAN THIS IN ANY ILL INTENT.
I THINK THE OPERATIONS PROBABLY WOULD ACCOMMODATE FOR BOTH BEING ABLE TO PLAY.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, YOU'RE MAKING THAT HTX WOULD UTILIZE IT MORE, RIGHT.
BUT IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE FOCUSING ON QUALIFICATIONS HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT ORGANIZATION WE FEEL IS MOST QUALIFIED, I THINK WE NEED TO STAY OUT OF OPERATIONS
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LAND AND KEEP THE CONVERSATION TO WHO WE THINK WHICH PLAYS INTO IT.BUT I THINK OPERATIONS AND WHO'S PLAYING WHEN AND HOW THE FIELDS ARE UTILIZED IS KIND OF STEP 20.
WELL, I ALSO SAY TOO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RFQ WITH THE NUMBERS, I MEAN THE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF SPEAKS TO ITSELF.
UM, WE SERVE THE FOLKS COMMUNITY AND WE'RE OPEN TO OTHER PARTS, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE APPROACHING 70% OF ALL OUR KIDS KIND OF BEING FROM THE FOSIA AREA.
AND AS WE'VE SEEN AS THE CITY GROWS, WE GET MORE KIDS FROM FOSIA.
SO IT WASN'T THAT WE RECRUITED OR MARKETED, WE DIDN'T MARKET IN ANY OF THOSE AREAS WE MARKET HERE.
THOSE AREAS DON'T HAVE PROGRAMS THAT SERVE 'EM.
SO THEY, THEY COME TO US BECAUSE WE, WE CAN SERVE THEM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.
AND YOU, YOUR KIDS AGE OUT AT 1415.
BUT THE ONES WHO SHOW THE TALENT TO MOVE ON, USUALLY EDGE, AGE OUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
HOW, HOW MANY TEAMS DID YOU HAVE AT D 11 AND THEN H TX U AGE OUT AT 19 U 11? I WANNA SAY MAYBE 14 TEAMS. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE OFF TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT HE DOES NOT.
SO WE'RE TALKING, UM, AND THEN THAT NEXT LEVEL UP, HOW MANY TEAMS FROM, ARE YOU 11 UP? UH, FOR U 14, I THINK WE HAD SIX OR EIGHT TEAMS. I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE CLOSE TO 250 KIDS, JUST BETWEEN THOSE TWO? THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO GROUPS.
UH, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THOSE KIDS, IF YOU'RE PLAYING, UM, AND JUST IN ALL HONESTY, IF YOU'RE PLAYING AT FSA AT 14, YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T MAKE YOUR MIDDLE SCHOOL TEAM.
SO YOU'RE PROBABLY JUST NOT GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME FINDING SOMEONE ELSE TO PLAY AT AT THAT AGE GROUP.
YOU'RE ENJOYING THE SPORT AND YOU WANNA PLAY.
YOU'RE ENJOYING THE SPORT AND YOU WANNA PLAY IT, BUT YOU'RE USUALLY NOT ABLE TO MAKE ANY OTHER CLUB TEAM OR, OR, MM-HMM.
SO Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT TEAM NUMBERS AND STUFF AND, AND THIS IS WHY SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED IN THE PACKETS THAT YOU WERE PROVIDED, UM, WERE ASKED.
AND, UM, QUESTION ONE, UNDER THE OPERATIONS SIDE, UM, ASKED THEM TO ESTIMATE THEIR NUMBER OF TEAMS, UM, FOR REC LEAGUE AND COMPETITIVE LEAGUE, IF THAT WAS WHAT THEY HAD.
SO IF YOU GO TO, UM, FOR FSA, HE TOLD YOU THAT IT'S AT ABOUT 70, WHICH IS ILLUSTRATED UNDER OPERATING, UM, OF HIS SECTION OF OPERATIONS.
QUESTION ONE, UH, HE SHOWS THE GROWTH FROM SPRING OF 22 TO FALL OF 2024, WHICH TIES BACK TO HIS STATEMENT OF 70 TEAMS. AND THEN HE SHOWS THE PROJECTED GROWTH FOR SPRING 25 THROUGH FALL OF 26.
IF YOU GO TO HTX PACKET, WHICH IS PAGE THREE OF THEIR PACKET, THEY TELL YOU HOW MANY TEAMS THEY HAVE FOR REC TEAMS AND, UH, COMPETITIVE TEAMS. AND THE REASON I POINT THIS OUT IS FSA SAID 70 AND YOU TAKE THEIR, UM, HT X'S 18 TO 22 REC TEAMS AND 44 TO 48 COMPETITIVE TEAMS. AND, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY AT THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW, THEY BOTH HAVE ABOUT 70 TEAMS EXCEPT FOR THE, THE SKEW OF THE TEAMS. LIKE FSAS, BULK OF THEIR TEAMS ARE U FIVE, WHICH IS A SMALLER TEAM.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH.
YOU SAID THERE WAS, YOU HAD 24 U SEVEN UU, I'M SORRY, U FIVE, U SEVEN, U FIVE IS U FIVE IS U SEVEN, BUT THOSE KIDS TYPICALLY STAY FROM U FIVE TO U 14.
SO THAT'S THE WHOLE PATHWAY WITH IT.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME KIDS THAT GO OVER TO CLUB SPORTS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR KIDS DON'T.
SO THAT U FIVE GROUP KIND OF MATRICULATES ON THROUGHOUT THE REST OF OUR AGE GROUPS.
UM, THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT I KNOW HT X MENTIONED HAVING A REC LEAGUE, UH, I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW THE SIZE OF IT, UH, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, UM, THERE'S NOT AN A LOT OF KIDS THAT MAKE IT TO THAT CLUB SIDE.
SO, UM, FROM THE REC TO THE CLUB, YOU'RE SAYING FROM THE REC TO THE CLUB SIDE? EXACTLY.
SO, UM, AND I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HCX, BUT UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE REC SIDE, WE'RE MUCH LARGER AND SER SERVING MUCH MORE.
UM, I THINK, I THINK PORTION OF, I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY THOUGH IS THE TEAM COUNT ISN'T ONLY THE THING.
IT'S LIKE HOW MANY PLAYERS ARE ON THAT TEAM? 'CAUSE THE U MM-HMM,
HOW MANY PLAYERS ARE ON THAT ON THE FIELD? UH, U SEVEN IS 10 NO, ON THE FIELD.
SO A A MAX TEAM WOULD BE 10 YES.
AND THEN LIKE THE U 11 IS LIKE 15 OR 16 ROSTERED.
SO, BUT LIKE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE, UM, OLDER TEAMS, IF THE BULK OF HCX TEAMS ARE OR OLDER, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE BIGGER TEAMS ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO THEN IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A USER BASE, JUST FROM A NUMBER PERSPECTIVE OF KIDS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN SOCCER, IT COULD BE SKEWED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
WELL, I I, I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE OLD, YOU DON'T GET THE OLDER KIDS UNLESS YOU SERVE 'EM WHEN THEY'RE YOUNGER.
AND I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE FSA IS NOT THE CHOICE FOR REC SOCCER.
I DO THINK THAT IS THE ANSWER, BUT I, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE BILLS I, HOW MUCH YOUR THING IS UTILIZATION.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
A U 11 TEAM AND UP REQUIRES MUCH BIGGER SPACE FOR PRACTICE AND FOR THEIR GAMES AS OPPOSED TO U FIVE, YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED U SIX MORE SOCCER FIELDS.
YEAH, MORE LAND, MORE SOCCER FIELDS RIGHT THERE WOULD BE HELPFUL.
DID YOU WANT SAY SOMETHING? JUST, JUST ONE, ONE LAST THING I I'LL SAY, UM, WITH THE GROWTH, UM, FROM 2022, WE HAD MAYBE 44 TEAMS. UH, IN 2024 WE HAVE 70.
UM, IT'S, IT IS BEEN GROWING EXPONENTIALLY.
AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE DON'T HAVE A PERMANENT SPACE.
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RENT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.AND ONCE AGAIN, UH, LIKE I SAID, THIS YEAR WE HAD SOMEBODY ELSE WHO RENTED THE SPACE BEFORE US.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND IF WE CAN EVEN USE THAT SPACE THIS YEAR.
UM, THE SECURITY AND KIND OF HAVING A PLACE THAT TO CALL OUR OWN ISN'T THERE.
UM, AND WE, WE GO THROUGH THAT EVERY, EVERY SEASON.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLACE TO PLAY.
UH, I WANNA POINT, UM, I WANNA GO TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROSTER NUMBERS.
BASICALLY BECAUSE U 5, 6, 7 PLAYERS U 1718 PLAYERS, OUR, OUR TEAMS ARE, BULK OF OUR PLAYERS ARE YOUNGER PLAYERS.
U 14 AND YOUNGER U 15 AND, AND, AND U 15 AND OLDER ARE ALSO BIG NUMBERS.
SO I THINK SERVICING COMMUNITY FROM BOTH ORGANIZATION, I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION.
I THINK WE ANSWERED THAT PRETTY WELL.
UH, THERE IS 12,000 CHILDREN IN FULL SHARE.
WE DID DEMOGRAPHICS COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
UH, APPROXIMATELY THERE IS 10% OF INTEREST IN SOCCER WHEN THEY DO THE MARKET RESEARCHES.
SO I THINK, UH, THE SERVICING PARTIES IS IS THERE FROM BOTH ORGANIZATIONS.
I JUST WANNA WANNA EMPHASIZE THE, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT.
THERE'S A LOT MORE BEHIND THE SCENES THAT, THAT, THAT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE TO DO.
TAKING CARE OF ALL OTHER THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO MARKETING, SUPPORTING THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE THE SOCCER AND ALSO SUPPORTING AND ALSO MAINTAINING THE FACILITIES.
AND I'M EMPHASIZING THAT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE SAW WHAT HAS IT BEEN WHEN IT'S UNMAINTAINED AND WE REALLY WANT TO HELP IT MAINTAIN NOT FOR OUR USAGE FOR USERS, OUR ENTIRE CITY OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
THERE IS, THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT WE WANNA WORK IN ACCORD WITH EVERYBODY ELSE INSIDE THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF OUR, UH, BIGGEST POINT WHEN DISCUSSING AND TALKING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, OTHER SIMILAR ATHLETES OR WHOEVER COMES HERE, BRINGING, MAKING THIS AS A, AS A HUB FOR THE, FOR SOCCER IS, IS THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
UH, RESEARCHERS, AGAIN, WE LIKE RESEARCHERS.
WE LIKE NUMBERS, WE LIKE DATA.
THE BIGGEST TALENT FROM IN HOUSTON IS COMING SOUTH OF I 10 AND WEST OF, UH, 45.
UH, THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE SHOWING 81 DIFFERENT NATIONALITIES HERE IN THIS AREA.
UH, THE SOCCER IS NUMBER ONE SPORT IN THE WORLD.
AND I THINK, I THINK I THINK BOTH OF US CAN SERVE A LOT, CAN HELP A LOT.
AND, AND WE ARE AIMING AND I THINK WE ARE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO, UH, WE ARE OPEN TO EVERYTHING, ALL DISCUSSIONS, ALL CONVERSATIONS, REGARDLESS OF THE, THE AMOUNT THAT SUPPORT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE.
WE WILL, WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO IT.
JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY, IF WE COULD HAVE IT ON RECORD THAT TWO OF THE THREE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HGX CURRENTLY HAVE CHILDREN THAT PLAY FOR HGX.
I ALSO HAVE CHILDREN THAT PLAY FOR FSA THAT, YEAH, FOR FSA AS WELL.
TWO, JUST FOR A TRANSPARENCY SAKE, THAT'S TWO.
JUST MAKE A NOTE OF IT THAT, WELL, IF WE'RE DOING TRANSPARENCY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT SEAN MILLIGAN SOLD THE COMPANY OVER TO HIM TO FSA AND HE'S ON HERE.
I MEAN, I SEE THAT, BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY, YEAH.
LEAH, THAT'S JUST TWO NUMBER THREE.
YEAH, LET'S DO ONE LAST THING.
UM, I I, THEY HAVE A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
UM, I THINK IT JUST COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE FIELD IS GONNA BE.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, WE HAD 200 VOLUNTEERS THAT HAD ABOUT 3,500 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER HOURS IN THIS ONE SEASON.
UM, THAT'S THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S THE PEOPLE THAT WE BRING TOGETHER THAT NORMALLY PROBABLY WOULD NEVER HAVE CONVERSATIONS TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
UM, AND THAT'S THE COMMUNITY IMPACT OF SAYING THAT, HEY, WE CARE ABOUT THIS LEAGUE SO MUCH THAT WE'RE GONNA VOLUNTEER 3,500 HOURS IN THE SEASON TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LEAGUE GOES WELL.
UM, BUT THERE, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING I CAN SAY POORLY ABOUT HTX.
UM, ACTUALLY PROBABLY AFTER THIS MEETING, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE CAN KIND OF DO SOME THINGS TOGETHER, MAYBE.
UH, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT'S THE CITY WANTS TO DO WITH THE FIELD AND WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH IT.
UM, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO GREAT ORGANIZATIONS TO CHOOSE FROM.
SO, UM, UNLESS I HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I PROBABLY MY LAST TIME SPEAKING, BUT I JUST WANT THANK YOU FOR THAT PERIOD FOR OPPORTUNITY
BOTH OF THEM ARE VERY NECESSARY.
SHOULD WE MAKE A MOTION? SOMEONE MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
TO SPLIT VOTE OR WHAT WE, HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY IT? THE PARKS AND REC BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED A SPLIT VOTE, OR WE VOTED.
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MOTION PASSES.I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR.
YOU'RE, AGAIN, YOU'RE BOTH WONDERFUL ORGANIZATIONS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
THAT WOULD BE MY IDEAL OUTCOME.
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REGARDING PARKS AND PATHWAYS MASTER PLAN ON FOUR D.SO PART OF YOUR, UH, DOCUMENTS THERE AT YOUR AREA, UM, IS THE SURVEY RESULTS.
SO THE PARKS AND PATHWAY SURVEY RESULTS, UH, CLOSED OR THE SURVEY CLOSED ON OCTOBER 13TH.
UH, WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 950 RESPONSES.
THE SURVEY RESULTS, UM, ARE PART OF YOUR PACKET.
AND I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT SINCE EAGLE LANDING AND PRIMROSE ARE BOTH IN CONSTRUCTION OR DESIGN, UM, THOSE PARTS WERE NOT PART OF, OR NOT PART OF THE MASTER PLAN UPDATE.
UM, SO WE'RE KIND OF FOCUSING MORE ON, UM,
UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RESULTS, UM, OF PAGE THREE OF THAT PACKET, UM, TRAILS, TENNIS COURTS, AND PLAYGROUNDS, WHERE THE TOP THREE ITEMS THAT ARE DESIRED, UM, IN CURRENT OR FUTURE PARKS FOLLOWED BY SOCCER, PICKLEBALL, BASEBALL, AND OUTDOOR EVENT SPACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK SEVERAL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE PLANNED FOR IN EAGLE LANDING AND PRIMROSE, UM, SUCH AS THE TRAILS PLAYGROUNDS.
UM, THE, UM, SORRY, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
DID ANYONE ELSE FIND IT FUNNY THAT RESTROOMS ARE ALMOST LAST ON THE LIST?
UM, SO I WANTED TO KIND OF LIKE ALLOW Y'ALL SOME OPPORTUNITY TO JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY GO THROUGH EACH OF THE QUESTIONS WITHIN THE PACKET.
UM, SO QUESTION ONE, THEY BASICALLY SUMMARIZED, UH, THE BULK OF THE RESPONSES THAT THEY RECEIVED ON THAT FIRST PAGE.
AND THEN THE ONES THAT HAD A VERY LOW RESPONSE, UH, THEY STILL WANTED TO PROVIDE THOSE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE ON THE SECOND PAGE.
AND THEN QUESTION TWO WAS, HOW IMPORTANT ARE THE TRAILS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY? UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT RANGE OF, UH, FROM VERY IMPORTANT TO NOT VERY IMPORTANT.
QUESTION THREE WAS, WHAT TYPES OF COMMUNITY EVENTS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HOSTED BY THE CITY OF SHORE? UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, MUSIC AND CONCERTS WERE, UM, VERY HIGH IN THE RESPONSES.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT THE, UM, AMPHITHEATER AT PRIMROSE FOR PHASE THREE IS A REALLY KEY COMPONENT AND, AND VERY IMPORTANT BASED OFF OF THESE RESULTS.
UM, HOLIDAY EVENTS WERE ONES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, UM, FAMILY FRIENDLY ACTIVITIES, UH, SPORTS AND FITNESS, ARTS AND CULTURE.
YOU CAN SEE THE VARIETY OF THE, UM, THINGS.
AND THEY TRIED TO SUMMARIZE, UM, THE, THE KEY WORDS THAT WERE MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES.
SO YOU'LL SEE LIVE MUSIC EVENTS, 40 MENTIONS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY, THEY TRIED TO SUMMARIZE EACH OF THOSE THAT HAD, UM, A LARGER, LARGER RESPONSE.
QUESTION FOUR WAS, UM, IF WE WERE TO ACQUIRE MORE PARKLAND, UH, WHAT TYPES OF PARKS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPED IN COMMUNITY PARKS? UM, WAS THE, THE LEADING COMPONENT WITH TRAILS VERY CLOSELY BEHIND THAT.
AND I THINK THOSE, UM, OFTENTIMES GO HAND IN HAND.
UH, SPORTS FIELDS, NATURE AREA, SPORTS COURTS AND EVENT SPACE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL OF THOSE RESPONSES REALLY TIE BACK TO THAT FIRST QUESTION AND, AND HOW THOSE ITEMS ARE IMPORTANT.
UH, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE BEST USE FOR IRENE STERN IN THE FUTURE? UM, RECREATION CENTER WAS A LEADING RESPONSE WITH A COMMUNITY CENTER AND INDOOR RENTAL SPACE BEING A VERY CLOSE, UM, SECOND, AND THE REASON I SAY IT THAT WAY IS THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN INDOOR RENTAL SPACE ARE REALLY KIND OF, UH, ONE AND THE SAME DEPENDING ON HOW AN ORGANIZ OR HOW THE CITY, YOU KNOW, PURPOSES THAT COMMUNITY CENTER.
BUT FOR WHAT WE UTILIZE IT AS IT IS AN INDOOR RENTAL SPACE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE, UH, VERY CLOSELY TO, UM, THE, THE FIRST RESPONSE OF THE RECREATION CENTER.
QUESTION SIX, HOW WOULD YOU, UH, HOW LIKELY WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SUPPORT A MUNICIPAL BOND? SO, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO SEE IN THERE.
UM, AND, AND WE WANTED IT TO JUST BE BROAD AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULDN'T REALLY PROVIDE DATA BEHIND THAT BECAUSE IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE DOLLAR AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THAT BOND LOOKS LIKE.
UM, SO, BUT JUST TO GET A GENERAL IDEA, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, IT, IT SEEMS THAT A LARGE PERCENTAGE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
QUESTION SEVEN, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE US TO KNOW ABOUT PARKS AND RECREATION? SO THIS WAS JUST KIND OF AN OPEN STATEMENT AND UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL WAS BROUGHT UP MULTIPLE TIMES.
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CONNECTIVITY.UM, AGAIN, ALL THOSE THINGS REALLY TIE BACK TO THAT FIRST QUESTION AS WELL.
AND IT, UH, CARRIES ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ENDING WITH, UM, COMMUNITY EVENTS, UH, SUGGESTED FACILITIES LIKE AN AMPHITHEATER AND, UH, FOR CONCERTS AND GATHERINGS, WHICH THAT TIES BACK TO THAT PRIMROSE COMPONENT.
SO I WANTED TO, UM, BASICALLY THE SECOND PACKET THAT YOU HAVE IS THE, UM, THE PRONOUNCED FROM THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN AND WHAT SOME OF THOSE PARKS ARE.
UM, SO I WANTED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE BASED OFF OF THESE SURVEY RESULTS.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING, UM, WITHIN THESE PARKS THAT ARE PRINTED OUT, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED, UM, SO THAT I CAN REPORT SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK BACK TO OUR CONSULTANTS SO THEY CAN, UM, MODIFY THESE, UH, PARKS WITHIN OUR MASTER PLAN FOR THE UPDATE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
AND THEY, BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVE AND THEY FELT VERY CONFIDENT IN THESE RESULTS, UM, BASED OFF OF THE POPULATION, WHICH IS WRONG.
AND I DO HAVE THAT AS A NOTE FOR THEM TO CORRECT WITHIN THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT THE, THEY TAKE A, A FORMULA BEHIND THE SCENES AND PREPARE THAT.
'CAUSE THEY'VE MENTIONED THAT TO US MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THEY WERE VERY CONFIDENT IN THE RESULTS.
BUT I CAN GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEHIND THAT AS WELL.
WELL, AND ONE THING I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY FOR QUESTION NUMBER ONE, I KNOW THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION FOR, FOR THE, THE PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD WITH FOLKS THAT TOOK THE SURVEY OF, WELL, WE KNOW BASEBALL'S COMING OR WE KNOW SOCCER'S COMING, SO I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THAT.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOCCER AND BASEBALL FIELDS MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY SKEWED DEPENDING ON HOW THE PERSON ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
LIKE, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THAT 'CAUSE I ALREADY KNOW IT'S COMING.
AGAIN, I, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, BUT I JUST THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE BASEBALL AND SOCCER FIELDS AND AMPHITHEATER, THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT BE BEST GUESS.
AND THEN JUST FROM MY STANDPOINT OF SEEING THE ACTUAL, UH, SURVEY RESULTS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BASKETBALL CONTINUES TO RANK REALLY LOW AS A REQUEST FROM OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE SURPRISED AT.
I, I DON'T KNOW THERE THAT ANY OF US HAVE EVER, UM, I MEAN I, I STILL THINK IT HAS ITS VALUE AND IT'S IMPORTANT, DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT I KNOW WE KEEP KIND OF LIKE IN SOME OF THESE PROTOTYPICAL COMMUNITY PARK.
WE KEEP PUTTING THEM IN, OH, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? SCHEMATIC DESIGNS.
WE KEEP PUTTING IN THESE BASKETBALL COURTS AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE CITY IN THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
I THINK THEY'D RATHER SEE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, THE BASEBALL, THE SOCCER, THE PLAYGROUNDS EVENT SPACE AND, AND AND PICNIC AREAS, OPEN SPACE.
SO FOR ME, I KNOW WE'VE GOT THIS CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN OF A PROTOTYPICAL FIVE ACRE COMMUNITY PARK.
PERSONALLY I'D LIKE TO SEE THE BASKETBALL KIND OF REWORKED THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN TO WESTIN, BUT THE BASKETBALL COURTS IN HOP AND ALL THE TIME.
MY BOYS ARE OVER THERE ALL THE TIME.
THEY, THEY'VE GOTTA GO TO WEST END.
BUT DOES THAT ALREADY EXIST AND IS THAT A NEED THAT WE HAVE? I THINK IT'S, HE DIDN'T GET INTO, CAN'T GET IN.
I MEAN YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A PASS TO GET INTO WEST AND LUCKILY THEIR FRIENDS JUST GIVE THEM PASSES SO IT'S NOT FULL.
I THINK IT'S AN ELEMENT OF OUR SOCIAL KIDS DON'T HAVE THAT 930 RESPONSES OR WHAT WAS THE NUMBER? NINE 50? I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CONSIDERED A SUCCESS FROM A RESPONSE RATE, BUT THAT DOES SEEM LOW IN GENERAL, BUT NOT, MAYBE IT'S LIKE PROBABLY WHEN PEOPLE VOTE IT'S THE SAME KIND OF THING.
BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE PEOPLE THAT WANT BASKETBALL COURTS AREN'T VOTING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WELL AND KIDS AREN'T GETTING TO VOTE.
OR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT ENGAGED.
YOUR VOTING JUNIOR HIGH KIDS, OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE GROWNUPS THAT ARE VOTING FOR TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL.
I WAS VERY SURPRISED BY THE WALKING TRAILS.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PEOPLE CONGREGATED HERE THAN YOU WILL OVER HERE.
THIS WHERE WE HAVE LIKE SPORADIC RANDOM PEOPLE MAYBE WALKING AROUND, BUT I PROMISE YOU YOU'LL HAVE MORE PEOPLE ON BASKETBALL COURTS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS.
LIKE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND.
BUT I MEAN, JUST BASED ON
WE SHOULD OBVIOUSLY CHANGE THE TENNIS COURTS OR A BASKETBALL COURT AND THEN HAVE TWO TENNIS COURTS.
I MEAN, JUST BASED ON, BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE ADULTS ARE THE ONES DOING THE TEST AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WENT TO PICKLEBALL.
THEY'RE NOT PLAYING BASKETBALL.
BUT WE CAN ONLY GO OFF OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED.
SO, WELL A LOT OF PARENTS WILL VOTE FOR WHAT THEIR KIDS WANT.
I MEAN I WAS OBVIOUSLY THE 0.21% THAT VOTED FOR LACROSSE.
I ACTUALLY TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR LACROSSE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD'VE BEEN INTERESTING IF WE COULD HAVE LIKE GOT IT INTO THE HIGH SCHOOLS TO VOTE.
THAT'S, YEAH, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT.
I LOVE TO PUT IT OUT TO THE KIDS.
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD WHAT THEY SAY BECAUSE HONESTLY, I, I DIDN'T, I PROBABLY VOTED FOR BASKETBALL COURTS 'CAUSE I KNOW, BUT LIKE I WAS THINKING, OH WHAT
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AM I GONNA, I WANT A WALKING TRAIL.I DON'T PLAY BASKETBALL ANYMORE.
BUT, BUT I DO THINK REQUEST, A PIECE OF THIS EQUATION WE'VE GOTTA KEEP IN MIND IS IF WE WANNA DO ANYTHING, WE NEED TO GO OUT FOR A BOND.
AND REGISTERED VOTERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA VOTE ON THAT BOND IF THEY WANT IT OR IF THEY DON'T WANT IT.
WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, AND I'M NOT SAYING I HATE BASKETBALL BY ANY MEANS, I'M JUST SAYING FOR SUCCESS.
I THINK WHAT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY IN THE WORKS YEAH.
WITH TRAILS AND PLAYGROUNDS AND WE'VE GOT SOCCER ALREADY WORKING AND WE'VE GOT SOME BASEBALL.
WE JUST NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND SUPPORT A POTENTIAL BOND, THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO SUPPORT WHAT'S IN IT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY 18 AND UNDER CAN'T VOTE.
SO IF WE CAN ON, UM, LIKE OF, OF THIS PACKET.
THE ONES FROM THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN, IF WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH EACH ONE.
AND IF WE CAN GO THROUGH WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS PICTURE, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR FRANCIS.
I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT I KNOW THAT, UM, A LOT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT MAKING THIS, UM, HAVE AN AREA FOR A SMALL FLAG GARDEN, UH, A VETERANS MEMORIAL AREA.
AND UM, SORRY, YOU KNOW, IS FRANCIS SMART YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES.
AND YOU KNOW FROM THE RESULTS THAT WASN'T BROUGHT UP AND, AND IN MANY WAYS I UNDERSTAND IT 'CAUSE I'M SURE PEOPLE WERE NOT THINKING OF A VETERAN'S MEMORIAL IN A FLAG GARDEN WHEN THEY WERE DOING THIS SURVEY RESULT.
UM, SO I WANT TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM LOOKING AT THIS SCHEMATIC, UM, FROM THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? DO YOU STILL WANT TO, FROM THE PARKS COMMISSION, DO Y'ALL STILL WANT TO SEE A VETERAN SMALL VETERANS MEMORIAL WITH A, YOU KNOW, BEING THE FLAG GARDEN IN THAT PARK? YES.
UM, AND WITH THE RESULTS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT? UM, YOU KNOW, KEEPING IN MIND THAT, UM, WHERE THIS PARK IS, IT, IT IS SMALL, UM, BUT WHERE WE ARE DOING HARRIS STREET AND, AND REVITALIZING THAT AND PUTTING THAT PLAZA, IT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM THIS PARK.
AND, AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE ONE DAY WITH SOME DEVELOPMENT AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MAYBE, UM, SOMEHOW MAYBE FRANCIS AND, AND, AND THE HARRIS STREET WILL, YOU KNOW, BE WALKABLE, UM, CONNECTIVITY THERE.
SO I HEARD A YES TO THE FLAG GARDEN, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS STILL ON, ON POINT WITH THAT IF EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE SO I CAN REPORT THAT BACK.
UM, SO WE CAN SOMEHOW INCORPORATE THIS INTO THAT RENDERING.
UM, TIFFANY REMIND ME, IS THAT'S, IS THAT HARRIS OR WALL? WHAT, WHAT STREET RUNS RIGHT HERE AT THE POINT OF THE TRIANGLE OF THE PARK? UM, LET ME PULL IT UP REALLY QUICK 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK BECAUSE IT DOES, THERE'S NOT A LOT STREET RIGHT DO WITH THAT SPACE.
IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S LIKE, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALMOST LIKE, IT'S JUST LIKE AN EXTRA LITTLE THING.
WHAT THIS SPACE, WHOLE PARK, THERE'S NOT A TON, BUT LIKE THERE'S NOT, WE JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE TO WORK WITH.
IT'S NOT, THERE'S, YOU CAN AT A PICKLEBALL COURT, THERE'S A STREET THAT RUNS RIGHT HERE AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT IS.
SO, SO THAT THERE BE ACCESS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT THIS IS WALLACE, THAT'S WALLACE'S COMING THROUGH, BUT FRANCIS ENDS IT LOOKS ABOUT RIGHT THERE.
SO GIVE OR TAKE, UM, FROM, SO THERE COULD BE ACCESS FROM WALLACE.
UH, THERE'S A A, A PROPERTY IN BETWEEN.
SO KNOW THAT POINT COME IT, IT TOUCHES A STREET, BUT I JUST DON'T, IS THERE A PROPERTY? I THINK THERE'S A DRIVEWAY FROM WALLACE THAT MAYBE TAKES TO THE GREATER ZACHARY MAYBE? I THINK, UH, JUST MY PERSONAL FEEDBACK, I, I DO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH VETERANS MEMORIAL WASN'T MENTIONED HERE, I THINK PEOPLE PROBABLY TRIED TO PICK FROM THE CHOICES THAT WERE THERE AND WHATNOT.
I, IT'S A SMALL SITE, IT'S VERY SMALL OF WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT.
AND NUMBER THREE BEING PLAYGROUNDS IN TERMS OF TOP THREE, WE'VE GOT A PLAYGROUND THERE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO STOP IN BETWEEN HARRIS IF SOMEONE'S TAKING A WALK DOING A BIKE RIDE.
SO TO ME WE'RE GETTING INTO A PURCHASES BUT LIKE A BIKE RACK, A WATER FOUNTAIN, YOU'RE WALKING YOUR DOG, YOU NEED TO STOP THERE WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE A PLACE IN FULL SHERE WHERE WE PAY, UM, OUR RESPECTS TO OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT SITE FOR IT PERSONALLY.
I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE COULD ADD THERE THAT'S FROM THIS LIST WOULD BE SOME PICNIC AREAS.
IF WE COULD ADD SOME PICNIC TABLES IN THERE AND THEN THAT WAY WE COULD SORT OF MARK THAT, AREN'T THEY THAT OFF? THESE LOOK LIKE PICNIC TABLES.
YEAH, THEY KIND OF DO LOT OF PICNIC TABLES, BUT I THINK THEY'RE JUST BENCHES.
SO I THINK THEY'RE PICNIC TABLES.
'CAUSE THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS TO MARK OFF THE LIST.
SO I HEARD VETERANS MEMORIAL PLAYGROUND PICNIC TABLES, BIKE RACK.
I FEEL LIKE YOU MENTIONED ONE OTHER THING.
WALKING YOUR DOG, YOU STOP, GET SOME WATER.
MAYBE A POOP STATION AND I THINK IT'S, I THINK WE'VE PUT ONE THERE YES.
SO I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH HARRIS PROJECT,
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THIS COULD BE A GREAT PLACE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME FUTURE EVENTS HOSTED WITH PARKING SPILLING OVER ELSEWHERE, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, VETERANS 4TH OF JULY LABOR DAY, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.BUT I JUST THINK IT'S A, IT'S A STOPPING POINT AND IN THE S OF LIKE PICNIC TABLE WATER, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THIS AREA WHILE HAVING A GREAT PLAYGROUND.
AND THEN WE COULD DO LIKE A 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION.
WATCH THAT ONE OFF THE LIST TOO BECAUSE THAT WAS HIGH.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK 6,000 PEOPLE ARE GONNA FIT IN THERE
WE CAN SQUEEZE IT ON WITH THAT AMPHITHEATER AT PRIMROSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET SIX, BUT THAT'S RIGHT.
THE NEXT PARK IS IRENE STERN PARK.
UM, SO THIS IS THE EXTERIOR COMPONENT OF IRENE STERN, NOT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ALREADY ON SOME RENOVATIONS JUST BECAUSE, UH, SOME, SOME RE UH, REORGANIZATION OF SOME OF THE THINGS HERE JUST BASED OFF OF THE SURVEY RESULTS OF THE TENNIS AND PICKLE BALLS BEING VERY, UM, VERY HIGH ON THIS ASPECT.
UM, SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I'VE GIVEN THEM IS, UH, OBVIOUSLY TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL REMAINING HERE.
UM, THE EXISTING PLAY AREAS, I ASK THAT THEY NOT REALLY FOCUS ON KEEPING THOSE WHERE THEY ARE.
UM, BY THE TIME THAT WE GET TO THIS ASPECT, IF IT DOES MAKE IT TO THE BOND, UM, AND IF IT PASSES RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT IF IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TO THE BOND ON THIS FIRST BOND PACKAGE THAT WE DO RIGHT.
BY THE TIME WE GET TO RENOVATING THIS PARK, THAT PLAYGROUND WOULD BE PRETTY OLD.
AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T LAST A LONG TIME, BUT I DIDN'T WANT THIS RENDERING TO BE STUCK TO, UM, MAKING EVERYTHING WORK AROUND WHAT WAS EXISTING.
UM, SO I'VE, I'VE SHARED THAT SO THAT THEY CAN KIND OF REWORK THINGS AND NOT MAKE, UM, EVERYTHING WORK AROUND WHAT EXISTS.
SO OF THE RESULTS, UM, OBVIOUSLY TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL WOULD REMAIN HERE.
UM, WHAT ELSE WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO SEE OR CHANGE IN THIS PARK? WE PUT IN THAT BUTTERFLY GARDEN.
WHAT, 12 YEARS AGO AND HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT AND, AND IT'S GETTING PUSHED TO THE BACK BECAUSE PERSONALLY AS A PARENT, I WOULD PREFER THE GARDEN IN THE FRONT THAT LOOKS NICE FROM THE ROAD AND HAVE PLAYGROUNDS NOT NEAR THE ROAD UHHUH BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS BUSIER AND BUSIER ALL THE TIME.
SO AND THAT'S WHY THAT WAS THE OTHER THING.
I I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THE, SO THIS IS STILL THE ONE OUT OF THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN.
THIS IS NOT ONE THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON.
JUST, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT I KNEW OUT OF THIS ONE.
UM, BUT THE EXISTING PLAY, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO AS FAR AS THE EXISTING ITEMS AND, AND THAT'S MY KEY THERE AS WELL IS THAT IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
UM, AND I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S REALLY SAFE.
AND SO, UM, SO I THINK MOVING THAT TO THE BACK IS REALLY THE BETTER COMPONENT.
I WOULD SAY WITH PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS BEING HEAVY IN THIS PARK, I'D TRY TO RECONFIGURE THAT CORNER TO MAYBE EVEN FIT ANOTHER TENNIS COURT.
PUT THE PICKLE BALL OVER THERE CLOSER TO THE ROAD AND THEN PUT THE TENNIS WHERE YOU HAVE ANOTHER TENNIS COURT.
I WOULD REWORK THAT CORNER TO JUST KIND OF REMOVE THE EXISTING PLAY.
'CAUSE TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN BY THAT TIME IT'S GONNA BE REALLY OLD AND RIGHT IN NEED OF REPAIR.
I WOULD PROBABLY SAY RECONFIGURING THAT SITE AND NOT KEEPING THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE THE MORE YEAH.
I'LL FIGHT FOR THE EXISTING RESTROOM THOUGH THAT THE ARTIST DID SUCH A BEAUTIFUL JOB.
WE'VE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THAT AND MAKE SURE IT'S, UH, KEEP, KEEP IT UP.
PUT THE POLYURETHANE ON IT EVERY COUPLE YEARS.
I WOULD VOTE TO ADD A BASKETBALL COURT AND SO DOESN'T MATTER.
WELL, I MEAN TOO, LIKE IF WE'RE ADDING THE PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS AT IRENE AT IRENE AND STERN, THEN THE, THIS PROTOTYPICAL THE FIVE ACRE ONE.
I MEAN THEN WE SHOULD DEFINITELY KEEP THE BASKETBALL COURTS THERE IF WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY ON IRENE.
IT'S CLOSE TO ALSO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND LAYMAN.
SO YOU'RE SAYING INSTEAD OF A, ANOTHER TENNIS COURT OR PICKLEBALL COURT THAT, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BASKETBALL COURT? YEAH, IRENE STERN.
I DO KNOW FROM WHAT THEY HAVE SHOWED ME SO FAR, UM, WE DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY CUT SOMETHING FROM THE, THE, WHAT THEY HAVE SHOWED ME IS THEY'VE KIND OF SPLIT THE PICKLEBALL, UM, INTO TWO AND TWO INSTEAD OF THREE AND PUT TWO WHERE THE, SOME OF THE EXISTING PLAY IS AND TWO WHERE THE TENNIS COURT IS AND THEN RESHIFTED, UM, THE TENNIS COURT.
UM, AND IN, BUT INDOOR AT IRENE STERN WILL HAVE BASKETBALL IF THE REWORKED INDOOR.
IF, IF, IF, IF, IF WE GET THE BOND.
I MEAN THIS IS ALL LIKE IF MM-HMM.
BUT THAT WOULD BE LIKE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, THE
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WALKING WITH THE BASKETBALL UNDERNEATH.BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE TIME LIMITS.
TIFFANY, WHAT ARE THESE DOTTED LINES RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT? IT'S A HILL.
THE, YES, THAT'S JUST SOME ELEVATION.
SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF SLOPED.
IS IT THE TENSION OR BELOW THE PICNIC THING? YEAH.
IT'S JUST FOR, UM, IT, IT, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOPE BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE OF JUST TO KIND OF SHOW, UM, WHAT IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? YOU CAN PUT AESTHETIC ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S SLOPED.
JUST TO KIND OF GIVE SOME DIMENSION.
SO LET ME THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE.
'CAUSE YOU OPENED MY EYES TO SOMETHING REALLY GOOD.
SO IRENE STERN POTENTIALLY COULD BE SOMETHING THAT GETS PROPOSED IN A FUTURE BOND.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL OR WON'T, IT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON WHATEVER'S PROPOSED GETS APPROVED OR NOT.
THIS PROTOTYPICAL PARK WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON PROPOSING IT TO GET THE LAND AND THEN PROPOSING IT TO ACTUALLY GET ALL THE STUFF TO PUT ON IT.
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF MORE OF A DREAM.
SO IF, IF TRULY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO APPEAL TO EVERYONE.
IF IN THIS IRENE TERM RENDERING WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IN SOME BASKETBALL, I THINK YOU'RE BRINGING IN A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IT.
AND I'D ALMOST SAY THAT EXISTING PLAY AREA AND ALL THAT FRONT STUFF DEDICATED TO BASKETBALL OR TENNIS OR PICKLE AT SMALL TENNIS COURT.
AND THEN IN THE BACK YOU'VE GOT THE OBSTACLE COURT IN, IN, IN THE PLACE WHERE THE KIDS WOULD PLAY BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOT PLAY IN EAGLE LANDING.
WE'VE GOT PLAY IN, UM, UM, PRIMROSE, WE'VE GOT PLAY AND KIND OF POP-UP PARKS ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
TO ME, TO GET MOST SUPPORT FOR THAT SPACE, I'D KIND OF LIKE IT TO BE VERY DIVERSE.
THE ONLY THING IS, I WOULD PREFER THE, THE PRETTIER THINGS, BUTTERFLY GARDEN LANDSCAPING AT THE FRONT AND PUT THE PAVED STUFF TOWARDS FOR THE BACK SO THAT IT LOOKS MORE APPEALING FROM THE ROAD.
I'M, I'M KIND OF THE OPPOSITE.
I'D LIKE TO GET LOST IN THE NATURE AS YOU WALK TOWARDS THE BACK, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE TRULY, AND I FEEL LIKE THE KIDS AWAY FROM THE ROAD IS WHAT YOU MEAN.
LIKE THE KIDS OUT OPEN PLAYING AND LIKE BEING IN THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN AND ALL THAT STUFF NEEDS TO BE FURTHER FROM THE ROAD.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T PLAY IN THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN.
WELL, LIKE LITTLE KIDS LIKE WALKING AROUND IN THERE WHILE THEIR PARENTS ARE DOING WHATEVER.
BECAUSE THE TENNIS BALL, LIKE TENNIS SCORES NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS BASICALLY CONTAIN STUFF AND MORE PAID STUFF AND MORE CONCRETE AND MORE AST IS WHAT I MEAN.
BUT IF IT IS PAVED HERE OR BACK, THERE'S STILL PAID GET WHAT IS THIS REALISTICALLY GONNA HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON? WELL, WE CAN CHANGE THIS A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT'S A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, BUT WE WANT PRICE EVERY TIME THE DEVELOPERS, YOU'RE ASKING FOR FEEDBACK SO THEY CAN READ AND THEN WE WILL PRESENT THE REVISED MASTER PLAN FOR ADOPTION.
SO WE, WE WOULD AGREE THAT WE WANTED TO SEE POTENTIALLY BASKETBALL COURTS, WE AGREE THAT WE WANNA SEE POTENTIALLY BASKETBALL AND THEN CONSOLIDATING THE KID PLAY ZONE SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHEREVER THEY FEEL.
WELL THE, THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS FOR THE IRENE STERN ARE GORGEOUS.
JUST THERE'S, SO FOR THE, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT BA BASKETBALL INDOORS.
SO YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PRESENTED THE BOND STUFF, THE IRENE STERN, UM, COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATION TO BECOME A RECREATION CENTER.
WHAT THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN HAS SHOWN IS BASICALLY EXPANDING THAT BUILDING, WHICH IS TAKING AWAY PARKING AND TAKING AWAY AREA.
UM, SO MY CONCERN AND ONE OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I WILL ASK THEM IS THAT, IF THAT IS STILL PROPOSED IN THE MASTER PLAN AS AN IDEA, IS WHAT DOES, JUST HOW LIKE, I MEAN, 'CAUSE I KNOW IT SHOWS HERE, BUT HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DID WE HAVE VERSUS WHAT IT'S BEING REDUCED TO AND IF THAT WERE BUILT PLUS THE PARK RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSION.
IS THE PARKING REALLY SUFFICIENT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS.
YEAH, IT'S NEVER, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE PARKING ON THAT ROAD EITHER.
'CAUSE THAT ROAD'S LIKE IT DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE TAKEN THE PARKING THAT WAS HERE AWAY TOO.
THERE WAS PARKING HERE AND DID, DID JOHNSON GIVE US TWO ACRES OR THREE ACRES BEHIND IRENE STERN? UH, THE WHOLE THING I BELIEVE IS THREE POINT SOMETHING THREE.
BUT THAT'S THE EXISTING AS WELL.
WHEN THEY START DEVELOPING, THEY NEED TO DIG DEEP BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH POISON IVY BACK THERE.
UM, WHILE I LOOK THIS UP, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE SPECIFIC THAT Y'ALL WERE WANTING? ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE NO LONGER INCLUDED? I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE OBSTACLE COURSE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS, THAT IT'S NOT NEEDED OR IS THAT FOR A BIKE BICYCLE? NO, IT'S LIKE THAT OBSTACLE COURSE.
REMEMBER WE WENT AND VISITED THAT ONE AND WE RODE ON THAT THING, TOOK PICTURES.
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I THINK ABSENT OF THE EXISTING PLAY, I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME AREA WHERE THE KIDS ARE.AND I LIKE PERSONALLY THE CONCEPT OF THE OBSTACLE COURSE, THE LOG CLIMBING AND THE SAND PLAY OVER THERE.
I THINK IT, IT OFFERS VARIETY IN, IN IN PLAY.
IT'S NOT JUST LIKE SWINGS AND A SLIDE.
I THINK AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE VERY RUSTIC IN NATURE INFUSED.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE A LARGE PLAYGROUND BE ADDED.
NO, BUT I MEAN LIKE THE STANDARD WITH PLAY STRUCTURE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT.
NO, I WOULD, I WOULD FEEL HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE GAGA BALL PIT? IT'S VERY POPULAR RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T, BUT THAT'S THE THING.
WE SEE A PICKLEBALL GAGA BALL, THEY'RE ALL POPULAR AND THEN THEY GO AWAY AND THEN SOMETHING ELSE IS POPULAR AND THEN IT GOES AWAY.
AND ALSO, LIKE AS A NON TENNIS PICKLEBALL PERSON, I HAVE A QUESTION.
CAN TENNIS COURSE NOT BE USED FOR PICKLEBALL? YES.
SO AT PRIMROSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS DESIGNED.
WAS THAT IT WOULD BE, IT COULD BE BOTH.
THERE IS SOME DIFFERENCES, BUT UM, AT, AT PRIMROSE WE HAD DESIGNED IT THAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD THOSE THAT IT WAS, UH, UNI IT WAS EITHER OR.
SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE TENNIS SLASH PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THEN A BASKETBALL COURT.
WITHOUT HAVING TO LOSE SO MUCH.
I MEAN I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM.
I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF, OKAY.
I MEAN IF WE HAD, IF WE HAD TO LOSE GAGA BALL TO, TO FACILITATE THE PICKLEBALL TENNIS AND BASKETBALL, I WOULDN'T CRY.
BUT I ALSO, I MEAN FROM A, A FINANCIAL, I THINK GAGA BALL'S PRETTY CHEAP TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW, IT'S VERY CHEAP.
IS THERE LIKE FOUR? WE PUT SOME IN WHERE THEY DO THE FOUR.
IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHICH ONE.
ON THE GROUND FITTING, THE GROUND COVERS ARE ABOUT 3000, $5,000.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY REASONABLE FROM LIKE AN YEAH, I AGREE.
IT'S NOT, BUT IT WOULD ALSO KIND OF GO WITH THAT AESTHETIC OF THE OBSTACLE COURSE.
LIKE ORGANIC PLAY OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
BUT LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE OTHER TREES AND LITTLE THINGS LIKE THIS THAT MAYBE TOWARDS THE BACK WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
IT, THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE CURVES AND, AND LIKE IT LOOKS GOOD, BUT ARE WE GONNA GET THE MOST OUT OF THIS SMALL SPACE IF WE ARE DOING THESE CIRCULAR SPACES AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO LIKE THAT'S WHY I SEE THIS LIKE WHOLE OPEN PLANE AND THEN THIS, THIS HILL WITH SOME TREES AND STUFF AND IT'S PRETTY, BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO LIKE REALLY MAKE THIS BE LIKE A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE'S GONNA GO, LIKE I THINK THE MORE WE CAN APPEAL TO A VOTER THE BETTER.
AND SO, I MEAN TO ME SEEING THE SAND, THE BEAM, THE OBSTACLE COURSE LOT, I'M LIKE, WOW, WHERE IS THAT? DO WE HAVE THAT LOCALLY? IT KIND OF EXCITES ME WHERE I'M LIKE, OH THAT'S COOL.
I THINK IF WE NEEDED TO MOVE SOME STUFF AND MAKE IT LINEAR AND NOT CIRCULAR, WE, I MEAN IT'S CONCEPTUAL.
JUST IF WE COULD TO PUT MORE, IT'S CONCEPTUAL IN THERE.
I FEEL LIKE MORE IN THERE WOULD BE BETTER THAN LESS.
SO I THINK MAYBE LIKE THE BASKETBALL'S REALLY IMPORTANT I THINK.
ADDING, IF WE COULD ADD IN A BASKETBALL THERE AND THEN REMOVE ALL EXISTING PLAY.
AND IT IS, UM, ALMOST FOUR ACRES TOTAL.
UM, SO WITH THAT ON THE UM, REC CENTER, LIKE I SAID, I I I WILL ASK THEM, UM, UNLESS Y'ALL'S OPINION HAS CHANGED, I KNOW PREVIOUSLY Y'ALL WERE UH, VERY INTERESTED IN THE RECREATION CENTER.
UM, BUT IN, I WILL INQUIRE WITH THEM AS FAR AS THE PARKING LIMITATIONS OF WHAT THAT, LIKE I SAID, COMING FROM WORKING IN A RECREATION CENTER FOR A CITY, UM, VISIBLY, THIS DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ENOUGH PARKING, MUCH LESS HAVING A PARK AS WELL.
UM, SO I JUST WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT.
SO HOW THAT, WHAT DOES THE ROAD LIKE? IS IT NOT AN EXPANDED ROAD WHERE THAT PEOPLE COULD PARK ROADSIDE? CURRENTLY THEY DO PARK ON, IT'S NOT, THEY DO CURRENTLY PRETTY TIGHT ROAD REMEMBER VERY, BECAUSE IT'S ON, THAT'S VERY TIGHT ROAD FOR THE RECORD.
THAT'S ALSO WHERE THE HUGGINS DROP OFF LINE IS A, IT'S A NIGHTMARE IN THEY SCHOOL.
I MEAN THEY HAVE TO EXPAND IT AT SOMETIME.
AND I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME THOUGHTS OR IDEAS OF MAKING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DROP OFF LINE FOR HUGGINS.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING COMING THERE.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HOST A LARGE EVENT.
WELL YOU HAVE THAT PRESCHOOL, WHAT'S IT CALLED? THERE'S THAT LITTLE, THAT'S EVEN WORSE.
PRESCHOOL CAN'T, IF YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD, YOU HAVE TO PLATE CHICKEN AND GO ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD TO GET AROUND EVERYBODY.
LOTS OF EMOTIONS ON THAT ROAD.
WHAT'S THAT? LOTS, LOTS OF EMOTIONS ON THAT ROAD IN THE MORNING.
WELL THE, THERE WAS A ROAD, I THINK THEY EVEN MAYBE ALREADY STARTED CLEARING, UM, BETWEEN UM, KATIE FULCHER AND THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT CUT THROUGH ROAD.
THAT WAS THE RANDALL'S PROPERTY.
QUICK QUESTION, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION COMING UP? 'CAUSE I PERSONALLY HAVE TO LEAVE IN SEVEN MINUTES.
I JUST WOULD LIKE, UM, FEEDBACK.
I MEAN IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE RECREATION CENTER THAT Y'ALL WANT TO SEE DIFFERENT? IF IT WERE REDUCED? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IF IT WERE TO EVER HAPPEN? I WOULD SAY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE HOW YOU STRIPE THE COURT, IF WE COULD DO
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MULTIPLE COURT TYPE STRIPINGS S ALL COURTS, BASKETBALL COURTS, INDOOR SOCCER.I THINK INDOOR BASKETBALL WOULD BE AMAZING THERE.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED A LOT.
AND I MIGHT BE CRAZY, BUT I THINK IT'D BE REALLY COOL KIND OF IN THE RENDERING IF THERE WAS AN INDOOR WALKING TREK.
I KNOW THAT'S LIKE A LARGE PIE IN THE SKY DREAM, BUT I THINK FOR OUR 65 PLUS GROUP, IF THEY WERE ABLE TO WALK INDOORS THE SUMMER, DURING THAT SUMMER IN THE SUMMERTIME MM-HMM.
THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT ADDED AMENITY.
WELL JUST THAT, THAT RENDERING THE BOTTOM RENDERING WITH THE WALKING.
IS THERE, I KNOW YOU'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT IT EARLIER.
SO WHAT CHANGES WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THERE? I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT CONCEPT.
I WOULD LOVE FOR RE TO HAVE THIS, BUT I MEAN THIS IS SO TENTATIVE ON WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT GETS APPROVED, WHAT DOESN'T MM-HMM.
AND IN THAT CASE, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANNA TIE US TO ANY CERTAIN CONCEPTUAL DESIGN BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE VOTING ON THE LAND BASED ON IF THEY LIKE THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OR NOT.
TO ME THAT'S SO DEPENDENT ON THE OTHER THINGS PASSING, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE STOCK OF LIKE, WHAT IS IT THAT WE DON'T HAVE AND NEED.
SO I, I KIND OF FEEL IGNORANT EVEN MAKING COMMENTS ON THIS CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN OTHER THAN ACKNOWLEDGING THE NEED THAT WE NEED LAND.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO AROUND BUYING FIVE ACRES HEARD.
BUT IN THE, IN THE INSTANCE OF, I'M JUST SAYING WHAT IF, IF WE HAD ALL TENNIS COURTS ON THIS MM-HMM.
WE NEED TO DIVERSIFY AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE HERE.
SO I, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE HESITANT OR DEPENDENT ON IF THEY PASS OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF FRANCES SMART MAKES IT INTO A POTENTIAL BOND AND PEOPLE VOTE THAT DOWN AND THEY VOTE IN THE, YOU KNOW, IRENE STERN PLAN THAT I MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF, LIKE, WE NEED TO PUT A PLAYGROUND SOMEWHERE.
I, I JUST, IT, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GIVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS OTHER THAN ACKNOWLEDGING WE NEED TO GET LAND INCLUDED SOMEWHERE AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.
OTHERWISE THIS LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PROTOTYPIC FIVE ACRE COMMUNITY PARK.
MY FEEDBACK WOULD BE KNOCK TREES IN THE GREEN SPACE BECAUSE WHILE WE MAY HAVE A FULL FIELD OVER HERE, IF YOU PUT TREES IN THE MIDDLE OF GREEN SPACE THAT YOU CAN'T USE THAT FOR ANY SPORTS.
WHETHER OR NOT LIKE I GET IT, THERE'S A BUTTERFLY MEADOW.
BUT IF THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE A, A ACTUALLY LIKE MOWED AREA, JUST KEEP THE TREES TO THE PERIMETER.
WELL THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR SHADE MOST MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR HERE, BUT MM-HMM.
SO ARE Y'ALL IN CONSENSUS OF JUST NOT REALLY, UM, THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE LAND BEFORE UPDATING THIS? OKAY.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE UPDATE UP.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE DESCRIPTIONS.
AND THEN, UM, THE LAST ONE HERE IS BESSIE'S CREEK.
UM, SO IN THE PREVIOUS MASTER PLAN, IT WAS PLANNED FOR THIS WALKING TRAIL HERE.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S, THERE WAS SOME PARKING HERE AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, UM, IN PECAN RIDGE.
THAT'S, UM, WHERE THIS LAND IS COMING FROM.
UH, BECAUSE THEY'VE, THEIR DETENTION THAT'S GOING TO THIS, IT'S UH, IT'S THIS ONE THAT THEY, THE WAY IT'S BEEN BUILT, THERE'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE UH, BE ABLE TO PUT PARKING UM, FOR WHERE THIS IS.
SO I'M TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
BUT WHAT I DID WANT TO KIND OF GET SOME FEEDBACK ON IS, UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS, IT WASN'T A HIGH ITEM BUT OF ANYTHING THAT COULD BE ADDED HERE BESIDES A WALKING TRAIL POTENTIALLY, UM, WAS THERE'S THE OUTDOOR FITNESS SPACE THAT HAD A UM, YOU KNOW, A DECENT PERCENTAGE ON IT.
UM, SOME, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME OF THOSE SMALL LITTLE OUTDOOR POCKET, YOU KNOW, IN ANY OF THE SPACES THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED THERE? SURE.
UM, OR JUST KEEPING IT TO THE WALKING TRAIL.
WELL, SOMETHING THAT WON'T RUST BECAUSE THAT IS, THAT WILL FLOOD.
AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S HERE IS REALLY REPRESENTATIVE ANYMORE.
BUT YOU, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS NOW, BUT WHAT I WAS THINKING IS JUST IF IT WOULD, COULD FIT IN ANY OF THE SMALLER AREAS AROUND THE TRAIL SO THAT WHILE YOU'RE WALKING ON THE TRAIL, THEN YOU CAN JUST KIND OF STOP, DO A LITTLE FITNESS MM-HMM.
ALSO A QUESTION AND SORRY I'M IGNORANT.
LIKE WHAT THE TRUE DETENTION IS HERE.
LIKE IS IT TYPICALLY DRY UNLESS IT FLOODS? TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT IS DRY BOTTOM BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY PUT IN THAT DETENTION, LIKE JUST
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A, A BASEBALL BACKSTOP FOR IF PEOPLE WANTED TO GO OUT AND DO SOME HITTING.I DON'T WANT IT TO INTERFERE WITH THE WALKING TRAIL, BUT IF IT WOULD FLOOD, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT GETS DAMAGED, RIGHT? IT'S JUST, IT'S THERE FOR MULTI-USE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRYING TO INCORPORATE TOO MUCH HERE.
UM, AND THE DETENTION, IF IT IS DRY BOTTOM, PEOPLE COULD END UP USING THAT JUST AS PRACTICE SPACE.
SO MAYBE IT'S JUST THAT THINK IT'S A PRETTY BIG DROP OFF, IS IT? ISN'T IT? I'M NOT SURE THAT'S, UM, AND THAT'S, I'VE SENT THEM SOME PLANS, UM, BIRD IT, SOME PLANS OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER, UM, PROVIDED.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY LOOK INTO THAT TO SEE UM, WHAT ARE SOME OF OUR OPTIONS, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE PUT DOWN THERE FOR ANYTHING SPORT RELATED? UM, AND DUMB QUESTION, 'CAUSE I'M NOT A BIG FISHER, BUT ARE YOU REALLY IN THEORY CATCHING ANYTHING OFF OF BESSIE'S CREEK OR NO? YES.
SO TO ME OUR INITIAL INTENT, INTENT OF THIS DETENTION SPACE WAS WALKING AND FISHING.
SO I JUST KIND OF WONDER IF THAT, THAT BOARDWALK FISHING PIER, SHOULD THAT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE? SHOULD THAT BE THE FOCUS? SHOULD IT BE MORE SUBSTANTIAL? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER THERE, BUT I JUST THINK THAT IF WE TRULY ARE TRYING TO PROMOTE THIS AS, YOU KNOW, WALKING AND FISHING, LET'S NOT TRY TO PUT TOO MUCH INTO IT AND FOCUS OUR DOLLARS THERE.
I THINK THE WORKOUT AREAS ALONG THE WALKING TRAILS, GREAT.
I MEAN THAT BENEFITS, BUT THE PICNIC AREA, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT ONE FAMILY FISHING THERE AND YOU'VE GOT LIKE ONE PICNIC TABLE THAT'S GONNA GET A LITTLE SCARCE, YOU MIGHT EXPAND ON THE PICNIC AND THE, AND THE FISHING.
AND THE ONLY THING WITH THAT IS IF WE HAVE, PLEASE GOD, NO ANOTHER HARVEY, BUT THAT'LL WASH THE FISHING PAIR AWAY.
SO WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE ONE AT SEABORN CREEK THAT'S BEEN THERE, PUT IT IN ABOUT EIGHT, NINE YEARS AGO AND IT'S A FLOATING PIER.
I GUESS JUST TO THAT POINT, THE DOLLARS INVESTED HERE, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON HOW TO MAKE THAT FISHING EXPERIENCE.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE WALKING TRAIL AND THEN THAT DETENTION IF PEOPLE WANNA, YOU KNOW, USE IT FOR SOMETHING PRACTICE WISE THEY DO.
AND ALONG THE WAY YOU CAN GET YOUR WORKOUT IN.
AND, AND LIKE I SAID, I, THE ONLY THING I WANNA REMIND AND CAVEAT IS THAT THE WAY THAT THIS IS SHOWN IN THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN IS NOT, UM, THE WAY THAT THE DETENTION HAS BEEN BUILT.
THE LAND WAS BUILT AND, UH, DESIGNED FOR THE DETENTION AND THE NEEDS THERE AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S ACQUIRING IT NOW, BUT PARKING IS AN ISSUE AND HAS TO BE WORKED OUT.
AND THEN SOME OF THIS MAY LOOK VERY DIFFERENT THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE IT.
SO I'LL INCORPORATE THOSE IDEAS AS FAR AS WHAT CAN BE, AND I'LL SHARE THOSE AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO KIND OF WORK AROUND NOW WHAT, WHERE WE'RE AT WITH IT.
WALKING, FISHING, POTENTIAL PRACTICE, WORKOUT, PICNIC.
WHAT YOU CAN DO IN THAT SPACE.
AND TO RAMONA'S POINT FISHING FIRST, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE FOCUS.
FISHING, WALKING WORKOUT, PICNIC.
THIS IS DOWN THE ROAD THAT I WOULD MAYBE MAKE A CUSTOMER RELEASE BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT AS NATURAL AS IT USED TO BE.
NOW YOU'VE GOT ALL THE PESTICIDES AND EVERYTHING COMING FROM POLAR RANCH.
IS THAT ALL YOU NEED FROM US ON THAT? YES.
I'M GONNA TRY TO ZOOM THROUGH, UH,
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ART BOX I THINK.THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS TEXT DOT HAS RESPONDED SAYING THAT THEY WILL SIGN IT.
THEY WILL, BUT THAT WAS A MONTH AGO AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING YET, SO.
UM, EAGLE LANDING, I THINK WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT.
YEAH, IT, I MEAN IT'S UH, CONTINUING.
THEY ARE, UH, THEY'LL SOON BE CONSTRUCTING THE RESTROOM AND, AND, UH, CONCESSION BUILDING.
UH, A LOT OF THE CONCRETE HAS BEEN POURED, SIDEWALKS ARE BEING POURED.
UM, AND WILL CONTINUE, UM, THERE WILL BE A, UH, PROJECT UPDATE COMING OUT, I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO ON SOCIAL MEDIA REGARDING THE UPDATE THERE.
AND PRIMROSE PARK PRIMROSE? YEAH.
SO PHASE TWO, UM, WE DID RECEIVE PROPOSALS AND WE ARE CURRENTLY EVALUATING THOSE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BEGIN NEGOTIATING WITH A POTENTIAL CONTRACTOR IN THE FU SOON.
UM, PHASE THREE, WE ARE, UM, BACK IN DESIGN MOVING.
WE'VE MET WITH, UM, THE AMPHITHEATER ARCHITECTS BASED OFF OF THE FEEDBACK THAT Y'ALL GAVE BEFORE WE PUT IT ON HOLD.
UM, SO THE DIFFERENT, UM, IDEAS THAT Y'ALL SHARED, WE'VE MET WITH THEM.
UH, WE'RE MAKING SOME ROTATIONS BASED OFF OF THE SUN AND, UH, WHERE IT, WHAT, WHICH WAY IT NEEDS TO FACE SO THAT SUN'S NOT IN PEOPLE'S EYES.
UM, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND HOPEFULLY SOON WE WILL HAVE, UM, THE UPDATED RENDERING, UH, FOR WHAT PHASE THREE WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH COMMENTS THAT Y'ALL FROM THE LAST TIME Y'ALL SAW IT, WHICH WAS LIKE IN JUNE I BELIEVE.
AND THEN THE AMPHITHEATER, UM, REVISIONS.
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REGARDING PARKS AND RECREATION, MONTHLY BUDGET REPORT.LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ABOUT 38,000 DISPENSED.
SO DO WE KNOW WHAT IT'S FOR? THAT SHOULD BE HALF.
YEAH, I KNOW I HAVE PAID SEVERAL INVOICES AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH, UM, ALL OF THE FINISHING THE DESIGN AND UM, THAT MAKES SENSE.
YOU GOOD WITH THAT, LEAH? YEAH, I MEAN AS LONG AS THERE'S AN EXPLANATION FOR WHAT WE SPEND MONEY ON, IT'S FINE, YOU KNOW.
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DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING CURRENT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OR FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES? I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING A NEW HIRE THAT IS, UH, A GRANT WRITER FOR THE CITY.SO IF YOU ALL FIND ANY, LET TIFFANY KNOW OR, UM, WHAT'S HER NAME? NIRA.
N-I-M-R-A-N-I-N OR M-N-I-M-R-R-A.
RH SOMEBODY I, I DON'T REMEMBER.
SO, AND SOMEBODY BACK THERE JUST GOT US A GRANT FOR RE BEAUTIFUL
UM, WE, UH, MARIAH GOT US A $3,000 GRANT FOR FROM KEITH, TEXAS.
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ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, I WILL SAY WE HAVE KEITH FULCHER BEAUTIFUL THIS SATURDAY STARTING AT 9:00 AM AT THE IRENE STERN AND DOZERS WILL SERVE LUNCH NEXT SATURDAY.[BUSINESS - I]
ITEMS? ANYONE? NOPE.WELL, WE, WELL WE HAVE A UPDATE BY THE NEXT MEETING FROM THE COUNCIL MEETING.
IS THERE IS THAT CYCLED? RIGHT? IF THE POLICY, UM, YOU KNOW, IS, HAS BEEN APPROVED AND REVIEWED AND EVERYTHING BY LEGAL AND WE ARE ABLE TO THEN NEXT MONTH I WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO COUNSEL IF IT'S PLANNED FOR DECEMBER OR, UH, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO THAT WILL ALREADY BE ON THE AGENDA OR DO I NEED TO ASK FOR THAT? OKAY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION I SECOND.
MOTION TO ADJOURN BY SARAH, SECONDED BY DAWN AT 1106.