[1. Call to Order ]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER OF THE TYPE A BOARD, UH, AT 6:01 PM ON NOVEMBER 13TH, AND WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER ALSO FOR THE RE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ON NOVEMBER THE 13TH, 2023 AT 6:00 PM TAKE ITEM TWO.
[2. Public Comments ]
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO.SO WE HAVE, UH, MS. NELSON TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SHORE FARMER'S MARKET ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
OKAY, MS. RAMONA, I CAN'T READ YOUR LAST NAME, SORRY.
UH, KAY COLIC 27 7 0 2 ROCKY CREEK COURT RE TEXAS.
UM, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT, WHICH I THINK BOTH BOARDS, UM, SHOWED A PREFERENCE FOR.
WAS IT SCENARIO FOUR? I FORGET WHICH.
UM, AND I, UM, HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I SAW THAT, THAT AN UPDATE ON THIS WAS PART OF THE AGENDA TONIGHT, SO I'M HOPING MAYBE THE QUESTIONS I HAD COULD BE POSSIBLY PART OF THE DISCUSSION, HELPED ME OUT WITH IT.
UM, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN PLAZA, UH, THAT WAS SHOWN IN SCENARIO FOUR.
UH, BOTH BOARDS OVERWHELMINGLY LIKED THAT IDEA AS WELL.
I JUST, UM, HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF WHERE THAT PLAZA IS, AND I KNOW IT WAS STATED THAT THEY WANTED IT CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN TO BE CLOSER TO SOME OF THE OTHER SHOPS AND RETAIL IN THAT AREA.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THAT CURRENTLY, IT'S ONLY, I THINK TWO BLOCKS LONG AND ALMOST HALF, OR MAYBE MORE THAN HALF IS CHURCH PROPERTY, WHICH WILL NOT GENERATE PROPERTY TAXES OR SALES TAXES, A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO, UH, IN THE, THE NEAR TERM ANYWAY, GENERATE ANY SALES TAXES.
AND SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I JUST, UM, THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN PLAZA SHOULD ACTUALLY BE THAT WOULD MAYBE, UM, START GENERATING ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
DID YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR WHERE THAT SHOULD BE? UM, I JUST THOUGHT FURTHER NORTH, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS FOUND ATTRACTIVE WAS THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY TAKE SOME ADVANTAGE OF THE CHURCH PARKING LOT, BUT IF YOU GO FURTHER NORTH, YOU'VE ALSO GOT, UM, WHAT'S GOING TO TURN INTO THE JP COURT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, USED TO BE THE LIBRARY THAT GOT CLOSED DOWN, AND THEY HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE PARKING LOT AS WELL.
SO IT'S LIKE IF YOU WENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH, YOU COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MAYBE BOTH PARKING LOTS.
UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT.
YEAH, IF YOU'LL HANG WITH US, ANELLE AND HAYDEN WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
AND I THINK YOU'RE READING THEIR NOTES, POSSIBLY
[3. Presentation of a Proclamation honoring Reverend Jackie Lee Gilmore. ]
ITEM THREE IS THE PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION HONORING REVEREND UH, JACKIE LEE GILMORE.AND I THINK EVERYONE ON THE BOARD IS AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOST REVEREND GILMORE ON OCTOBER THE 23RD, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NOT TWO OF HIM, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THINGS, BUT HE WAS ONE OF A KIND, AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE JUST A MINUTE TO HONOR HIM A LITTLE BIT PERSONALLY.
YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED WITH HIM A LONG TIME IN THE COMMUNITY, AS MANY OTHERS HAVE.
UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MOVE IN AND OUT OF SHORE ON A REGULAR BASIS,
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BUT TO HAVE SOMEONE HERE THAT'S BEEN HERE THEIR WHOLE LIFE AND THAT'S DEDICATED THEIR LIFE TO SERVING, UM, THEIR CHURCH, BUT ALSO THE CITY OF SHORE, IT'S, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO HOLD UP AND HONOR AND RESPECT.UM, THE PROCLAMATION IS, I THINK ANELLE'S GONNA READ THAT IN A MINUTE, THAT THE MAYOR PRESENTED AT THE FUNERAL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, HE SERVED THESE BOARDS FOR OVER 12 YEARS, AND THAT'S A LONG TIME TO SIT ON A BOARD AND TO FAITHFULLY ATTEND THE MEETINGS, UH, TO HAVE INPUT, TO GO THROUGH DIFFERENT ISSUES.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE DEFINITELY DID A GREAT JOB.
AND HE WAS ALWAYS, UH, VERY CAUTIOUS AND MINDFUL, CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY OF RE AND, YOU KNOW, OUR FINANCES AND WHAT WE WERE SPENDING MONEY ON.
SO I HOPE THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO TAKE HIS SPIRIT, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH US AS WE CONTINUE TO DELIBERATE AND WORK ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF SHORE.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE DID A LOT OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, PUT IN A ROAD, YOU CAN PUT IN A WATER LINE, BUT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HE WORKED ON REALLY HELPED BUILD THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S HARD TO ACHIEVE, UH, IT'S HARD TO ACHIEVE AND IT'S, IT'S EASIER TO JUST BUILD SOMETHING RIGHT, YOU KNOW, OUTTA CONCRETE, BUT IT'S HOW YOU MAKE PEOPLE FEEL.
UM, AND HE DID THAT THROUGH HIS CHURCH ORGANIZATION AND BEING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL LET ANELLE MAYBE, I THINK SHE WANTS TO GIVE THE PROCLAMATION THAT THE MAYOR PRESENTED.
I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL, UM, THE PROCLAMATION PRESENTED BY THE MAYOR TO THE GILMORE FAMILY, WHEREAS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SHORE, I WISH TO RECORD OUR DEEP SORROW OVER THE PASSING OF REVEREND DR.
JACKIE LEE GILMORE ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2023.
AND WHEREAS REVEREND GILMORE WAS A PROUD SON OF FULCHER AND ADVOCATED TIRELESSLY FOR HIS COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS HE WAS A DEDICATED MEMBER OF THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD FOR OVER 12 YEARS, ALWAYS PROVIDING CALM AND THOUGHTFUL PERSPECTIVE.
AND WHEREAS HE, FOR OVER 20 YEARS TENDED HIS FATHER'S FLOCK AND SERVED THE GREATER SARY MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH OVERSEEING ITS RESTORATION AND GROWTH AS A HISTORIC PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS REVEREND GILMORE ALSO WAS THE OVERSEER OF THE HISTORIC SRE BLACK CEMETERY AND DEDICATED TO ITS PERPETUAL CARE.
REVEREND JACKIE LEE GILMORE, THOUGH, HAS PASSED ON TO THE PROMISED LAND, HIS EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF THE FULL, SHE, HIS EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF FULL, SHE ALWAYS, FROM A PLACE OF GRACE, ALWAYS FROM A DEEP LOVE OF COMMUNITY, WILL LONG BE REMEMBERED HERE.
AND HIS LOSS LEAVES A DEEP VOID OF SADNESS SIGNED ON THE FOURTH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2020 THIRD BY MAYOR AARON GROFF.
UM, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD JUST INVITE ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS, IF YOU JUST HAVE A MEMORY OR, UM, SOMETHING IMPACTFUL THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE, UM, IN HIS MEMORY, PLEASE DO SO.
UH, I WAS ABLE TO SERVE ON TWO BOARDS WITH REVEREND GIL GILMORE.
AND, UH, WHENEVER I WAS THINKING OF THIS PROCLAMATION AND, AND PASSING THE, THE THING THAT CAME TO MIND WAS THE EXTRA QUESTION, THE EXTRA QUESTION THAT HE WOULD ASK FOR UNDERSTANDING THAT HE WOULD ASK FOR, UM, TO MAKE THAT LITTLE PIECE OF THOUGHT PROVOKING COMMENT THAT CAME IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION SOMETIMES.
AND, UM, SO I THINK THAT'S A LEGACY THAT HE WILL LEAVE WITH ME FOR A LONG TIME, IS THE EXTRA QUESTION.
AND, UM, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, YOU'LL BE THERE WITH US IN A MINUTE.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, LET'S JUST HAVE MAYBE ONE MOMENT OF SILENCE.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PRESENTATION
[4. Presentation and discussion on the status of the Harris Street project. ]
AND DISCUSSION ON THE STATUS OF THE HARRIS STREET PROJECT.[00:10:01]
UH, FOLLOWING THE LAST MEETING, UM, WE, WE ALSO HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OR WHERE THE, UH, THE PLAZA WAS GOING TO BE ALONG HARRIS STREET.UM, SO WE, UH, WE, WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND MET WITH THE CHURCH.
UM, WE KIND OF GOT THEIR FEELINGS ON THE PROJECT.
UM, AND AFTER SPEAKING WITH, UH, THEIR BOARD, THE PASTOR SHARED WITH US THAT, UM, IT WAS A PRETTY POSITIVE REACTION TO THE, TO THE PLAZA.
UM, AFTER FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND KIND OF SEEING THE, UH, FUTURE PLANS FOR EXPANSION OF THE CHURCH, AS MS. KAY MENTIONED, UM, IT, IT KIND OF CAME TO OUR REALIZATION THAT, UH, BASICALLY AN ENTIRE BLOCK OF PLAZA WOULD BE HELD DOWN, UM, BY THE CHURCH WITHOUT ANY ROOM FOR FURTHER, UH, COMMERCIAL EXPANSION.
UM, WE APPROACHED AMB BCO AGAIN, UM, AND ASK THEM TO DRAW UP WHAT WE PRAY AND HOPE IS THE FINAL OPTION, OPTION NUMBER FIVE, UM, WHICH SHIFTS THE, THE PLAZA SPACE, UM, UP TO, UH, BETWEEN THIRD AND FIFTH STREET.
UM, SO JUST MOVES IT UP NORTH.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, IF YOU RECALL ON OPTION FOUR, UM, THE PLAZA SPACE THAT WAS SHOWN ONLY WENT ABOUT HALF A BLOCK.
THERE WAS KIND OF A SIDEWALK THAT LED IN FROM EITHER SIDE.
UM, AND WE ASKED THEM TO GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THAT, UH, IN PLACE OF, YOU KNOW, FULL PLAZA SPACE.
SO WE GET THE MOST USE OUT OF IT.
UM, WITH THIS, UH, THEY, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER, UH, TRUNK LINE, UM, FURTHER SOUTH.
UM, SO THE COST DOES INCREASE.
IT'S STILL ABOUT 400,000 UNDER BUDGET.
UM, AND THAT'S WITH A 10%, UH, CONTINGENCY, UH, BUILT IN.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL IN GREAT SHAPE.
UM, WE'RE HOPING THIS IS, THIS IS THE FINAL, UH, GO AHEAD.
WE'VE, UH, ASKED AMBI O TO, UM, KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL.
UM, FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, THE ONLY, UH, REAL HURDLES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS, UH, AS YOU CAN TELL, THERE ARE A COUPLE PROPERTIES, UM, ALONG THE PLAZA SPACE THAT WIND UP IN THE CENTER OF THE BLOCK.
UM, SO THE CITY IS WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, UM, ALONG WITH LEGAL AND, AND OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THEM ACCESS ON THOSE CROSS BLOCKS, UM, WITHOUT CAUSING ANY DETRIMENT TO THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS SURROUNDING.
UM, WE FEEL THIS IS A GOOD SPOT FOR US.
IT KIND OF CONNECTS WITH THE, ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT UP NORTH FOR THE FIRE STATION RIGHT THERE, AND GIVES US EASILY ACCESSIBLE PARKING AT THE LIBRARY ALONG WITH A LOT OF SPACE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF YOU, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL DO MY BEST TO, UH, TO RESPOND.
UH, I DEFINITELY, IS IT POSSIBLE, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADD A LEGEND,
WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE, UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AMICO, UH, PROVIDED TO US, UM, I CAN KIND OF RUN IT THROUGH WITH YOU RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO IS THE ONE IN THE PACKET THE LATEST? YES, SIR.
UM, SO TH THIS IS, THEY SENT THIS TO US.
UM, WE ASKED FOR A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NO TREES DELINEATED ON THERE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, IT'LL, IT'LL BECOME A LITTLE BIT CLEARER, BUT THE MAGENTA UP TO THE NORTH, THAT WILL BE A, UH, UH, DETENTION POND, UM, AFTER WALLACE STREET.
AND, UM, UH, THE OTHER DRAINAGE PROJECTS, HOPEFULLY WE CAN SHRINK IT OR ELIMINATE IT IN THE LONG TERM.
UM, THE YELLOW ALONGSIDE OF IT WILL BE THE EXTENSION OF A, UM, UH, SIDEWALK ALONG HARRIS.
UM, IT'LL GO STRAIGHT UP INTO TO THAT PROPERTY, UH, TO THE NORTH.
UM, THE GREEN, UM, IS UNDERGROUND DETENTION, UM, ALL THE WAY DOWN.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, DETENTION, UH, TOWARDS THE SOUTH.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE MAYBE
UM, WE DO HAVE ON STREET PARALLEL ON STREET PARKING, UM, FOR THE AREAS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PLAZA.
UM, BUT WE CAN GET A, UM, SOMETHING WITH A, A LEGEND THAT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, FINAL
AND I THINK I WAS, I THINK I WAS PAYING ATTENTION, BUT, SO BASED ON THE FEEDBACK, UH, AND THE CONCERN ABOUT WITH THE CHURCH AND POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I DON'T THINK, FOR ME PERSONALLY, UM, I THINK HAVING A PLAZA NEXT TO THE CHURCH PRETTY COOL.
RIGHT? DOESN'T NEED TO BE, DON'T NEED TO BE STORES ALL
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ALONG THESE PLAZAS.AND 'CAUSE IT'S JUST PART OF THE CITY.
UM, BUT YOU'VE MOVED IT A BLOCK NORTH, RIGHT? SO NOW IT'S BETWEEN THIRD AND FOURTH AND FOURTH AND FIFTH INSTEAD OF SECOND, THIRD, AND THIRD AND FOURTH.
AND, AND ALSO, UM, LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS CERTAINLY A FACTOR.
THOSE TWO BLOCKS WERE ALSO, UM, IN THE LIVABLE CENTER STUDY ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED TO BE, UM, PLAZA SPACE, UM, TO SOME EXTENT.
UM, SO THIS KIND OF SOLIDIFIES IT ALONG WITH THE, UH, THE LIVABLE CENTER STUDY.
UM, AND IT ALL KIND OF WORKED OUT IN THE END, UM, BUDGET WISE AS WELL.
I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT I DEFINITELY LIKE THE ADDED PLAZA SPACE INSTEAD OF KIND OF JUST THE SIDEWALK AND SOME GREEN SPACE.
SO I THINK THAT ADDS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR BIGGER EVENTS AND WHATNOT.
SO YOU WERE MENTIONING THOSE LOTS TO THE WEST SIDE.
UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE AN ALLEY BEHIND THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO EXPLORE EITHER SOME SORT OF AN ALLEY OR AN EASEMENT, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE ACCESS? THERE'S, THERE'S THREE PROPERTIES IN PARTICULAR THAT THIS WOULD BE AFFECTING.
UM, I THINK THE MOUSE IS CAUGHT UP.
THERE'S THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
PROPERTY ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS AND THEN ONE IN THE CENTER THERE AS WELL.
UM, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN, WE CAN COME TO A SOLUTION, UM, TO GET EVERYBODY ACCESS, UM, WHICH WILL BE NEEDED IN THE LONG TERM.
UM, ESPECIALLY AS COMMERCIAL IS BUILT OUT, UM, YOU'LL WANT SOME SORT OF REAR ACCESS BEING THAT OUR BUILDINGS AND DOWNTOWN DISTRICT ARE GONNA BE PULLED UP TO THE STREET.
UM, THERE WON'T BE ANY, UH, PARKING OR OFFLOADING OR ANYTHING.
SO THEY WOULD NEED SOME SORT OF REAR ACCESS, UM, BY THE CITY.
AND, AND LEGALS, UH, LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR THAT AS WELL RIGHT NOW.
WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED IMMINENT DOMAIN? THAT IS BEYOND MY, UH,
THAT'S PROBABLY ALWAYS A LAST RESORT THOUGH.
HOPEFULLY, UH, THEY WOULD SEE THE BENEFIT OF THE PLAN AND, UH, WORK WITH US
IS THAT RIGHT OF WAY SOMETHING THAT WOULD DELAY THIS PROJECT? I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE CERTAINLY WOULD BE MORE OF A PROCESS TO IT.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS TIMELINE AND IF IT'S GONNA BE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
WILL THE PLAZA BE OFFSET IN SOME WAY VISUALLY? OBVIOUSLY I'M GONNA BE THINKING THAT WAY.
LIKE BRICK STREETS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT REALLY OFFSETS IT SEPARATELY, YOU KNOW, SEPARATES IT FROM THE REGULAR STREET.
SO THE, I BELIEVE THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS, UH, STAMPED CONCRETE.
UH, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE BRICK AND I'VE, I'VE BEEN, UH, FIGHTING FOR BRICK.
UH, IT IS AN AWFUL MAINTENANCE, UH, HASSLE FOR DOWNTOWN ESPECIALLY.
UM, BUT WE WOULD WANT TO KIND OF, UH, KEY THAT OFF AS WELL AS ON THE CROSS STREETS ALONG THE PLAZA.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME WAYS TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT, UM, THAT ACCESS THROUGH, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S NOT, NOT PAINTED INTO THE CONCRETE, BUT I GUESS SEALED INTO THE CONCRETE OR A STATUE OR SOMETHING THAT KIND OF BRINGS THE PLAZA SPACE TO LIFE WHILE STILL GIVING CROSS ACCESS.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO.
SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE, AND I MAY BE WAY AHEAD, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF PLAN FOR KEEPING THE BIG TRUCKS OFF OF THIS AREA, THE TRASH TRUCK? LIKE ARE WE, IF WE DEVELOP AN ALLEY SITUATION, SO THE TRASH TRUCKS ARE GONNA STAY IN THE ALLEYS AND LIKE TO KEEP THE BIG TRUCKS OFF OF THIS MAIN THOROUGHFARE? YES, MA'AM.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THEM OUT OF PEDESTRIAN SPACE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
LIKE POST AT THE DECORATIVE POSTS, EXACTLY.
THE CORNERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
DISCOURAGE ANY SORT OF HIGH SPEED OR, UH, YOU KNOW, LARGE VEHICLES COMING THROUGH.
IS THERE ANY SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THIS OPTION? COMMU FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS? FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS, THAT'S STILL THE PROBLEM THAT PERSIST IS, IS PARKING.
UM, BUT THIS GIVES US WAY MORE SPACE THAN, THAN WE'VE EVER HAD DOWNTOWN.
UM, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THERE AS WELL, IT'S KIND OF THERE, VERY, VERY SMALL.
THERE ARE BOLLARDS IN PLACE AT THE END OF EACH STREET, AND WE'RE, UM, ALSO EXPLORING HAVING THE OPTION TO PUT BOLLARDS
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TO BLOCK OFF HARRIS ENTIRELY, UM, IN CASE OF, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT EVENT.STREET CLOSURE, UM, SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT THAN, THAN BARRICADES, UM, MORE SOUND.
SO AT THE, WHAT IS IT, FOURTH STREET INTERSECTION, UM, ARE THERE GONNA BE PERMANENT, LIKE BULLETS THERE OR ARE THOSE GONNA BE REMOVABLE TO KEEP THAT INTERSECTION OPEN? SO THE INTERSECTIONS, THE, THE CROSS ACCESS WILL STILL BE THERE.
UM, BUT WHERE THE PLAZA SPACE BEGINS, THERE WILL BE, IT'S VERY SMALL, LIKE AT THAT INTERSECTION WILL TRAFFIC OR LIKE TRAFFIC WILL, WHEN THERE'S NOT EVENTS, THEY'LL STILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE THROUGH.
THEY'LL STILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE THROUGH.
UM, THE ENGINEERS ARE LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, PLANTER IN THE CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, BUT THEN AT THE PLAZA SPACE THERE WILL BE BALLARDS AND THOSE WILL BE PERMANENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO RIGHT NOW YOU JUST NEED TO KNOW, YOU'RE JUST GIVING US AN UPDATE AND THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WHAT CAN WE EXPECT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING? HOPEFULLY, UH, SOMETHING FINALIZED WITH THE, THE CROSS ACCESS WOULD BE, WOULD BE OUR GOAL.
UM, SO WE CAN, WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN AMBI O THE, THE DIRECTION TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WHILE CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, UH, ACCESS FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY BY NEXT MEETING WE CAN COME BACK AND HAVE A, UH, A MORE CONCRETE TIMELINE AS WELL AS SOME SOLUTION FOR ACCESS.
[5. Consideration and possible action on the adoption of an MOU between the City of Fulshear Development Corporation and the Fulshear Katy Chamber of Commerce for Special Community Events and integration of new local businesses into the business community of Fulshear. ]
FIVE IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ADOPTION OF AN MOU BETWEEN SHORE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THE SRE KD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR SPECIAL COMMUNITY EVENTS AND INTEGRATION OF NEW LOCAL BUSINESSES INTO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY OF RE ALL RIGHT.UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAD HAYDEN AND I MET WITH, UH, DON AND RACHEL, UH, A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH WHAT OUR PARTNERSHIP WOULD LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD, UM, USING THAT FRAMEWORK.
WE SENT THAT OFF TO OUR LEGAL TEAM AND THEY DRAFTED AN MOU FOR THEM TO REVIEW.
WE DELIVERED THAT TO THEM, UM, ALMOST, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO FOR, FOR THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
UH, ON THURSDAY MORNING, DON CAME BY CITY HALL AND WE HAD A MEETING.
HE INFORMED ME THAT THE CHAMBER IS NO LONGER INTERESTED IN PURSUING ANY KIND OF MOU, UM, WITH THE EDC OR, OR THE CITY.
UM, WE WEREN'T EXPECTING THAT.
UH, IT WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING, UM, CONSIDERING WE HAD MET WITH THEM AND INCLUDED WHAT THEY HAD REQUESTED IN THERE, SUCH AS THE MEMBERSHIP, SPONSORSHIPS AND ALL OF THAT.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LETTER FROM HIS BOARD, UH, PRESIDENT AND HIMSELF IN YOUR POCKET FOR YOU TO LOOK AT THAT OUTLINES KIND OF THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS AND WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THIS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, AND I DID DURING MY MEETING WITH DAWN THAT THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF THE FIRST PAGE, UM, DOESN'T REALLY ACCURATELY DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENED.
UM, THERE WAS CONFUSION THERE FOR, FROM THE TYPO IN ONE OF THE BOARD'S, MOU THAT HAYDEN AND I PRESENTED, UM, OUR VERBAL PRESENTATION AND THE, WHAT THE BOARD'S APPROVED WAS A ONE YEAR COMMITMENT FOR THAT MOU, AND WE SAW IT THROUGH, UM, THROUGH ITS END AND UNTIL, UNTIL IT ENDED WITH THE SCARECROW FESTIVAL.
SO WE FULLY PARTICIPATED, PAID FOR ALL THE INVOICES, UM, FOR ALL THE VENDORS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE SCARECROW FEST THAT DON SENT OUR WAY.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
UM, DON IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE DID ASK IF Y'ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS TO, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND, UM, WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING WITH THEM AND KIND OF REDEFINING WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.
UH, WE DID SEND AN INVITATION FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING.
WE SENT ONE TO THE CHAMBER, WE SENT ONE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE ESD, AND BOTH K-D-I-S-D AND LAMAR, CISD.
UH, AND DON ALSO INDICATED THAT HE WILL NOT BE PARTICIPATING, UH, IN THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING OR ANY EVENT HOSTED BY THE CITY INTO THE FUTURE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD CHANGE THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE'S LET US KNOW.
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UH, THANK Y'ALL FOR WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO TRY TO CRAFT SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP.I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS GONE THROUGH A EVOLUTION OF SORTS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CHAMBER HAS GONE THROUGH SOME EVOLUTION OF SORTS.
UM, BUT I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAVE AGREED TO TAKE ON, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ADDITIONAL WORK AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL HAVE GREAT EVENTS AND, UM, SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, BUT, AND IN READING THROUGH THE SORT OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE PROPOSED MOU, CONSIDERING THE WAY THAT IT USED TO WORK VERSUS THE WAY THAT IT WOULD WORK IN THE FUTURE, I'M NOT COMPLETELY SURPRISED THAT, THAT, UH, THE CHAMBER DIDN'T WANT TO TO PURSUE THAT.
UM, THAT'S NOT A NEGATIVE STATEMENT, IT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION, UH, ON MY BEHALF.
AND, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW IS, UM, SO GOING FORWARD, ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE, THE CITY WILL HAVE AND THE CITY WILL SPONSOR, ORGANIZE, COORDINATE, WILL BE DONE BY THE CITY.
IF THE CHAMBER WANTED TO PUT ON SOME SORT OF AN EVENT, UH, IN SHORE, HOW WOULD THEY GO ABOUT DOING THAT? WOULD THEY HAVE TO HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE CITY? THERE'S A SPECIAL PERMIT THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE AN EVENT AND ALL THESE SORTS OF THINGS.
SO THEY COULD ACTUALLY HYPOTHETICALLY DO SCARECROW TWO
ANY ENTITY WITHIN THE CITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON AN EVENT, A LARGE GATHERING OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, AND THAT'S THROUGH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE A VERY THOROUGH EVENT PERMIT TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE SAFE AND EVERYTHING'S ACCOUNTED FOR.
UM, I WILL SAY FROM THE RESPONSE THAT WE RECEIVED IT, IT SOUNDED LIKE, UM, THE LARGER EVENTS WERE A BIT MORE OF THE, THE IMPETUS TOWARDS NOT HAVING A, A RENEWED PARTNERSHIP WITH US.
DO WE THINK THAT WE COULD RE-APPROACH THEM BASICALLY ON SORT OF THE ITEMS ON THE BACK PAGE THAT WE WOULD STILL REALLY LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED? AND TO ME, THAT'S THE, THE PARTNERSHIP OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE MEMBERSHIP, BUT THAT COULD BE, UH, REALLY SOMETHING REALLY ATTRACTIVE FOR A NEW BUSINESS COMING INTO SHORE.
SO SOMETHING THAT WE STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AND WORK WITH THEM ON, EVEN IF THEY DON'T PARTNER WITH US ON SOME OF THE LARGER EVENTS.
UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
BONNIE, UM, I DID EXPRESS TO DON, AND IN THE LETTER HE HIMSELF STATES THAT, UM, HE'D LIKE FOR THE CITY TO SEE THE CHAMBER AS MORE THAN EVENT PLANNERS AND ORGANIZERS, WHICH YES, I WOULD LOVE THAT TOO.
UM, SO WE CAN DEFINITELY RE-APPROACH AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST AT ALL.
AND THAT WAS OUR IDEA BEHIND THAT, IS TO FOCUS MORE ON, UM, WHAT THE ROLE OF THE CHAMBER IS SUPPOSED TO BE WITH PROMOTING AND EQUIPPING OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, NOT ENTREPRENEURS WITH THE SKILLS AND MAYBE FILL OUT THE GAPS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE MISSING FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT, WHETHER IT'S, UM, THROUGH THE SPONSORSHIPS.
UM, WE'VE ALSO TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT PUTTING ME AND HAYDEN THROUGH A, YOU KNOW, CHAMBER 1 0 1, WE WANNA KNOW ALL THE INS AND OUTS SO THAT WHEN OUR NEW BUSINESSES GET HERE, WE CAN STILL CONNECT THEM, UH, WITH DAWN AND GET THEM PLUGGED INTO THE NETWORK SO THAT THEY REALLY FEEL PART OF THE FUL FAMILY.
BUT ANELLE, I MEAN, YOU COULD DO THAT WITHOUT ANY SORT OF AN AGREEMENT.
I MEAN, IF THE CITY AND, AND YOU AS THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY, IF YOU WANTED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR X AMOUNT OF, UH, UH, AND SPONSOR X AMOUNT OF NEW BUSINESSES A YEAR, RIGHT.
BASED ON AS AN INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN, BECAUSE I KNOW EVEN AS A SMALL BUSINESS, $250 A YEAR, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE AN LLC, YOU JUST STARTED, THAT CAN BE A CHALLENGE.
UH, AND THAT'S SORT OF THE MINIMUM MEMBERSHIP.
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UM, BUT, BUT THE CITY AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT COULD SPONSOR SOME X NUMBER OF NEW BUSINESSES AND DO THEIR, THEIR MEMBERSHIP FOR THEM, RIGHT.AND MAKE THAT OFFER WITHOUT ANY SORT OF AN AGREEMENT WITH JUST THAT, THAT YOU WOULD BE PAYING FOR IT.
I THINK JUST THE IDEA OF DOING IT IN AN AGREEMENT WITH SOME OF THE OTHER IDEAS WE HAD WAS JUST TRYING TO SOLIDIFY MORE OF THE PART A PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER.
UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE BUSINESSES IN SHORE, SO, AND THAT'S WHO WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
AND WE, WE'VE TRIED AS BEST AS WE CAN AND AS OUR SCHEDULE ALLOWS TO SUPPORT THE CHAMBER AT ALL THE ROPE CUTTINGS AND SENDING THAT TO YOU ALL TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, FOR A FEW OF THEM, SOME OF YOU HAVE JOINED ME.
SO, UM, WE JUST, WE PLAN TO CONTINUE DOING THAT AND SUPPORT IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.
OUR NEXT EVENT IS THE CHRISTMAS, THE CITY'S NEXT EVENT IS THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING.
AND YOU'RE ALL SET TO GO? UH, YES.
[6. Consideration and possible action on continued support of the Fulshear Farmers’ Market for weekly entertainment. ]
ITEM NUMBER SIX, EDC SUPPORT OF THE SHORE FARMERS MARKET.UM, THE BOARDS HAVE PREVIOUSLY SUPPORTED THE FULCHER FARMER'S MARKET WITH A ONE-TIME DONATION AND, UH, A WEEKLY AMOUNT FOR LIVE MUSIC DURING FISCAL YEAR, UH, 23.
TODAY, THEY'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUATION OF THAT SUPPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
UM, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD NOW AND THEY'LL SHARE SOME OF THE IMPACT THAT YOUR ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION HAD WITH YOU ALL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US BACK, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET.
SO WE'RE HERE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK REPORT ON YOUR INVESTMENT INTO THE SHORE FARMER'S MARKET, AND TO ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, WE HAVE ADDED TANGERINE CROSS VINE, A NATIVE EVERGREEN VINE TO THE PLANTER BOXES ON THE FM 10 93 SIDE OF THE MARKET.
SO THEY'RE UP HIGH, UM, ON THE, ON THAT PERGOLA.
AND AS IT GROWS, IT WILL NOT ONLY BEAUTIFY THE MARKET AND ENTRY TO DOWNTOWN, BUT IT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROTECTION FROM THE ELEMENTS FOR OUR PATRONS.
SO PLEASE JOIN US IN SENDING QUICK GROW VIBES TO THE VINES.
AS A RESULT OF, OF YOUR INVESTMENT IN FUNDING ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE MARKET, WE HAVE SEEN A SEVEN TO 10, AN INCREASE OF SEVEN TO 10 VENDOR BOOTHS WHEN WE HAVE ENTERTAINMENT AND AN ADDITIONAL 100 TO 150 PATRONS ON THE WEEKS THAT WE HAVE LIVE MUSIC OVER OUR NINE AND A HALF YEAR HISTORY OF BRINGING THOSE VISITORS TO TOWN FROM SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES THAT HAS, THAT HAS PROVIDED A SIGNIFICANT BOOST TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
UM, AND IN RECOGNITION TO ED C'S SPONSORSHIP OF THE MUSIC, I'M GONNA HAVE RAMONA AND MAYBE ANELLE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS THERE.
SO WE'VE DONE, UM, SMALL BROWN SIGNS THAT WILL GO IN FRONT OF THE MUSICIANS WHEN THEY PLAY ON THE WEEKENDS WITH THIS ONE, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, THEN THESE, THAT ONE, ALTHOUGH IT WILL SIT PORTRAIT SIDES, IT'S AT THE PRINTER, WE DID NOT, THAT WILL GO ON EITHER END OF THE PERGOLA IN A PERMANENT SIGN, UM, SO THAT PEOPLE APPRECIATE WHERE THEY CAME FROM.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR YOU TO CONTINUE FUNDING THE LIVE MUSIC FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE 2324 FISCAL YEAR, UM, THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR 300 PER WEEK TO FUND THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THE PAST AND FORWARD TO YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR RAMONA? OR IS THAT AN APPROVED LOGO? UH, YES SIR.
IT MEETS THE BRANDING GUIDELINES FOR, UM, THE CITY OF CHER'S FOCUS.
SO WE'RE DOING THAT WITH ALL THE, WE CAN DO IT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN DO IT WITH, I MEAN THE, THE ECONOMIC
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DEVELOPMENT PIECE OF IT.UH, IT IS ONLY, BUT I THOUGHT WE WEREN'T GONNA DO BRANDING FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
THAT IS THE ONE PIECE THAT WE CAN, AND IT CAN ONLY HAVE, UM, EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY.
IT CAN'T HAVE LIKE, SUB POSITIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR PUBLIC WORKS, UM, HUMAN RESOURCES.
YEAH, WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON YEARS FOR BRANDING, SO WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO ROLL NOW AND WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GET UP THERE AND SING.
ARE WE PLACE FOR 300 BUCKS? YOU MIGHT WANNA
YOU WANT CUSTOMERS TO COME THERE? NOT LEAVE.
I THINK I WOULD COME IF YOU, IF YOU WERE RIGHT.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF WE'RE READY FOR THAT.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE AG, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE, UH, YES.
THE AGREEMENT EXPIRED AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
UM, SO IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE AGREEMENT? UH, WE'RE GOOD WITH THE AGREEMENT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN, I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND, WHICH IS GREAT.
UM, I THINK LAST WE SPOKE, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE TOOK IT OUT OF THE, UM, MARKETING BUDGET.
SO UNDER THE PROMOTIONAL RIGHT, OF COURSE THE S DOESN'T, OKAY, MY, I'M GONNA GO OFF OF MEMORY HERE, BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE DID NOT PAPER SOME OF THIS AS WELL AS WE COULD HAVE.
UM, BUT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO SUPPORT, UM, THE FARMER'S MARKET, UM, WE HAD LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO COME IN TO FULCHER.
AND ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE ONE REASON WHY ANYONE COMES TO FULCHER, AND IT IS FOR THIS FARMER'S MARKET.
SO MAYBE WE DIDN'T PAPER THAT VERY WELL, BUT THAT WAS THE RE THE RATIONALE FOR SUPPORTING, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET.
IS THERE A BETTER WAY FOR US TO PAPER, FOR US TO PAPER THIS? UM, WELL, CERTAINLY I THINK WE, YEAH, WE NEED TO HAVE, OKAY.
AND, AND YOU HAVE EVIDENCE THAT WE'RE BUY WHATEVER, IT'S WHATEVER METRICS.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING AND IS, I MEAN, WE ARE, WE AGREED TO SUPPLY MONEY TO BRING IN ENTERTAINMENT AND FOR THE PLANTERS, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD LOOKED AT INFORMATION BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GOT THAT INFORMATION.
I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT I REMEMBER WHAT IT TOLD US WAS THAT PEOPLE COME TO SRE FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET.
IT, THE NUMBERS WERE PROVIDED BY RAMONA.
WE ALL HAD IT, UH, IN OUR POCKETS.
UM, IT WENT AS FAR AS SURVEY THE MARKET THAT WE PUT SURVEYS OUT ON ALL THE TABLES AND THE PATRONS THAT CAME THROUGH FILLED THEM OUT OVER A, YEAH, IT WAS ABOUT FOUR WEEKS WE PUT THEM OUT.
PEOPLE WOULD FILL OUT THEIR ZIP CODE, HOW OFTEN THEY CAME, UM, METRICS LIKE THAT, AND THEN WE COMPILED THEM AND GIVEN YOUR PACKET.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT IT WOULD BE USEFUL IF WE HAD AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT ALSO CAPTURED, UH, MAINTENANCE OR GROWTH OF THE ME OF THESE METRICS THAT WE COULD THEN LOOK AT EV ON AN, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
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UM, WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, HOW IT HAS TO GIVE THIS SPECIFIC, UH, PROMOTIONS.IS IT ENOUGH FOR US TO HAVE THE SIGN THAT SAYS MAYBE IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE ANOTHER PROMOTION SUPPORTED BY CHER'S, EDC.
LIKE, IS THAT ENOUGH TO, TO ACTUALLY EARMARK THAT? UH, I'M GONNA, SO UNLESS YOU GUYS ARE LIKE SO OFF, I'M, UM, I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE BOARD SAY THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE A COURT'S GONNA LOOK AT WAY COURT, LOOK AT WHAT THEY BELIEVE.
THERE ISN'T A OPINION OUT THERE THAT SAYS SHOULD BE RIGHT,
AND JUST ANOTHER, BECAUSE CAN I SAY THAT
AND SO, SO, UM, IF, UM, I THINK IT'S VERY LOW RISK, BUT, BUT WE SHOULD ALWAYS DO WHAT'S, WHAT'S RIGHT.
AND, BUT IT IS, IT IS, I BELIEVE WITHIN YOUR DEFERENCE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHAT PROMOTIONAL MEANS FOR PURPOSES OF, OF PROMOTING, YOU KNOW, NEW AND EXPANDED BUSINESSES, ENTERPRISES.
AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT WE BRING FOLKS INTO, AND LET ME ALSO BACK UP.
I'M A LAWYER THAT SAYS, I'LL MAKE AN ARGUMENT FOR MY CLIENT SO LONG AS I DON'T HAVE TO PUT A BAG OVER MY HEAD, RIGHT? IT'S 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE EMBARRASSED, UH, IN FRONT OF A COURT.
UH, BUT CERTAINLY TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE BRINGING FOLKS INTO THE CITY OF RE AND THAT'S PROMOTING THE LOCAL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND WE CAN HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT, UM, THAT REQUIRES THE FARMER'S MARKET TO PROVIDE US MET MATRIX AND METRICS, WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD? MATRIX.
THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING.
AND TWO DIFFERENT WORDS BY THE WAY.
UH, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, OUR BUSINESSES BEING VISITED AND WHAT BUSINESSES ARE BEING VISITED AND HOW IS THAT PROMOTING THOSE? I I THINK THAT'S PERFECT.
I THINK THAT THAT IS, I CAN ABSOLUTELY LIKE MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT THAT'S ACCEPTABLE, BUT I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE SO ESTABLISHES SO THAT WE CAN PROVE, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ASKED.
THIS IS WHAT'S BEING DONE WITH RESPECT TO THE PROMOTION OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
UH, IN OUR JULY MEETING, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE CONTRACT THAT WE ARE, WE'VE ALREADY SIGNED, IT'S THE JULY MEETING IF ANYBODY HAS THEIR, UH, AGENDA UP, IT'S PAGE 26 OF IT.
AND I REMEMBER Y Y'ALL PROVIDED US SOMETHING THE FIRST TIME WITH THE HEAT MAP AND YOU KNOW, IF WE, UM, IF WE CAN JUST GET AN UPDATE, UPDATE ON THAT WHERE, I MEAN I, I'M, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THIS EXPENDITURE AS FAR AS MARKETING IS CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, UM, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, IS THERE A DIFFERENT BUDGET LINE THAT IT WOULD BETTER FIT UNDER? NO, NO, NO.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITH.
SO FOR ME, I WOULD, UH, MY DIRECTION TO YOU WOULD BE TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH LEGAL AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO AGREE TO FITS AND HAS THE FRAMEWORK THAT LEGAL FEELS, UH, IS, IS DEFENDABLE.
UM, AND BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING ELSE, WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ONLY HAD SIX SATURDAYS OF MUSIC BECAUSE, UM, BY THE TIME IT WENT THROUGH LEGAL AND I THINK THAT TOOK ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS.
NO, I DON'T THINK IT WAS ALL YOUR OFFICE, IT WAS NO, DEFINITELY NOT ON CHARLIES SENT
I THINK, UH, MAYBE CAN WE BUILD ON WHAT
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WE PREVIOUSLY HAD AND COULD WE HAVE SOMETHING YOU THINK BY OUR NEXT MEETING THAT WOULD YES.BE ACCEPTABLE? I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
AND, UM, IN MY CONVERSATION WITH LEGAL, UM, I WOULD JUST URGE THE BOARD TO THINK BIG PICTURE.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WATCH OUR MEETINGS AND WE ARE STARTING TO GET MORE REQUESTS AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGING POSITION TO BE IN WHEN MULTIPLE NONPROFITS ARE APPROACHING US TO FILTER THROUGH THAT AND KNOW WHAT GETS TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE PERCEIVED AS AN UNFAIR PROCESS.
AND SO WITH THAT, WE, WE WILL BEGIN WORKING WITH LEGAL TO CREATE A POLICY TO KIND OF FILTER THOSE THROUGH THAT CHARLIE FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT WE FEEL, UM, WOULD REALLY BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY FOR IN DEFENSE OF THE FARMER'S MARKET BEING A WORTHY, UM, CAUSE IS, IS I DON'T THINK ANY OF US CAN COME UP WITH ANY OTHER EVENT THAT BRINGS MORE PEOPLE INTO THE CITY OF WILSHIRE ON A WEEKEND TO GO HAVE COFFEE, TO GO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BURRITO.
UM, SO ON, ON A HISTORIC, UM, WE'VE PROVEN, UH, PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF DOING THAT TOO.
SO AS YOU CONSIDER THAT, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY AMAZING CRITERIA TO SAY, OKAY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU AGREE THIS TASK? YEAH.
SO, SO FOR ME, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT LEGALLY THE WHAT WE'RE, HOW WE ARE AGREEING TO SPEND THE SALES TAX DOLLARS QUALIFIES UNDER THE DEFINITION OF ADVERTISEMENT.
RIGHT? AND, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, BY THE CREATION OF A POLICY, YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE AGREED TO THAT IS OUT THERE THAT EVERY, THAT ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS CAN SEE.
AND SO THAT WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS ON WHEN OR HOW TO FUND A PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION, IT IS BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE CREATED AND IS NOT PERCEIVED AS BEING ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS, WHICH IS SOMETHING I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE.
SO IT'S NOT THE ISSUE OF WHETHER YOU ARE OR NOT.
IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE BIG PICTURE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET SPECIFICALLY.
I, I GUESS WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT IS FOR, FOR NONPROFITS LIKE
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD REITERATE IT'S NOTHING AGAINST THE, THE FARMER'S MARKET.
WE ALL LOVE THE FARMER'S MARKET.
UM, WE JUST HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT.
UM, NOT JUST FOR YOU GUYS, BUT FOR THE FUTURE OF RE YEAH.
THE METRICS ARE COVERING US IN THE BACKSIDE.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NEVER HAVE TO DO IT, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE BY YOUR METRICS ON THE BACKSIDE THAT IT WORKED OR IT DIDN'T WORK.
AND SO MY QUESTION THEN IS YOU SAID IT INCREASED ATTENDANCE AT THE FARMER'S MARKET WHEN YOU HAD A BAND.
DID YOU PROMOTE THE BAND BEFOREHAND? YES.
HOW DID YOU KNOW THOSE NUMBERS? DID YOU TAKE ANOTHER SURVEY LIKE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE OR DID YOU JUST COUNT? THEY COUNTED CARS.
COUNTED CARS, AND WE COUNT HOW MANY, WE KNOW HOW MANY VENDORS WERE THERE.
BUT THE ONLY DOWNSIDE THAT I SEE TO THIS, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND ABOUT POLICY IS THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, TO, TO RIDE THE WAVE OF PEOPLE KNOWING THAT WE HAVE LIVELIHOOD AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, OH, SORRY.
AND NOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO CREATE POLICY.
AND I MEAN THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE, I'M NOT SUGGESTING, UM, UM, UM, OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE BEST PRACTICE, RIGHT? UM, UM, BUT I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED IF WE CAN GET AN AGREEMENT TOGETHER, UM, FOR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE NOW THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, THAT WE ALL KNOW WOULD PROBABLY FALL IN LINE WITH WHAT WE EXPECT OUR POLICY TO LOOK LIKE OR IS.
IF IF STAFF'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE POLICY, FOR THE RECORD.
I, I I'M NOT HAPPY IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT I, I KNOW IT'S RIGHT HERE.
WE HAD A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR THIS AND,
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AND SO WE CAN ACT UPON IT.HOPEFULLY WE CAN JUST DO AN UPDATE FOR THAT AND BE ABLE TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO ON THIS CONSIDERATION TONIGHT WITH, WITH THAT THOUGHT IN MIND THAT THERE'S A DRAFT OUT HERE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WE'RE APPROVING DOLLAR AMOUNTS? YEAH, THE AGENDA ITEM IS WRITTEN AS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
SO IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU ALL, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO FUND THEM FOR ONE MONTH AND, AND THEN IN THE NEXT OKAY, GREAT.
WELL, I, I NEED CLARIFICATION.
I MEAN, SO THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM, UM, ITEM AND THE WAY THE AGENDA ITEM IS PRESENTED IS CONTINUED FUNDING, BUT THERE IS NO AGREEMENT.
UH, SO THERE, UH, YES, THERE IS AN AGREEMENT.
THERE WAS AN MOU AGREEMENT EXPIRED.
SO THERE'S NO AGREEMENT CURRENTLY? NO.
SO YOU'RE ASKING ME TO APPROVE CONTINUED FUNDING, BUT THERE'S NO AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
SO THE ONLY WAY I WOULD AGREE TO DO THAT IS IF WE SAID SOME CONTINGENCY ON THAT.
RIGHT? SO THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM.
UM, I COULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE CONTINUED FUNDING, UM, PROVIDED THERE'S AN AGREEMENT PRESENTED TO US, UH, BY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
WE'RE BOTH, BOTH PARTIES HAVE, UH, HAVE SIGNED OFF NEXT CC MEETING.
HE FORGETS WHERE HE IS AT SOMETIMES
EITHER WAY, YOU KNOW WHERE I'M AT AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, RIGHT? SO I MEAN, BUT, BUT FOR THIS TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM AND NOT ACTUALLY HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO LOOK AT, WE ASSUME THAT IT'S GONNA BE A CONTINUATION OF THE SAME AGREEMENT.
WERE GIVEN YOU WERE, WE WERE GIVEN SOME DATA TO HELP US MAKE A DECISION.
HOWEVER, THOSE ARE NOT METRICS, THOSE ARE NOT PERFORMANCE METRICS.
SO FROM AN ADVERTISING STANDPOINT TO CONTINUE TO FUND YOU THEN PERFORMANCE METRICS MEANS THAT WE WANT TO SEE ACTUAL DATA THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING AND FUNDING THIS THING IS CREATING THIS NEW BUSINESS.
IN OTHER WORDS, MY ADVERTISING DOLLARS, I'M GETTING A RETURN NOW MAYBE I DON'T AND IF I DON'T, THEN I STOP ADVERTISING.
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT? YOU TELL ME IT'S A FARMER'S MARKET.
I RUN, I HAVE A BUSINESS, RIGHT? I COME UP WITH MY OWN ADVERTISING PLAN, RIGHT.
AND MY OWN ADVERTISING BUDGET.
SO THAT'S UP TO YOU TO COME UP WITH AN ADVERTISING PLAN.
I JUST, HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE FARMER'S MARKET? I HAVE.
SO YOU UNDERSTAND THEY'RE INDEPENDENT VENDORS AND WE DO NOT KEEP UP WITH HOW MUCH EACH PERSON SELLS.
WHAT THEY, I MEAN, WE'RE NOW RAMONA, I I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF YOU WANT FUNDING MM-HMM.
BE HAPPY TO, IF YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE GUIDANCE.
'CAUSE IF YOU CAN'T, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT.
WELL, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T THEN IT'S NOT REALLY ADVERTISING.
UM, YOU SAID THAT YOU, UM, SPOKE WITH YOUR VENDORS, UM, I ASSUME THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF MUSIC AND THEY LOVE THAT.
SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GO TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE WANTING TO CONTINUE THIS.
400 AND ON THE MUSIC DAYS I DO SIX 50.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST GO TO YOUR VENDORS AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS.
LIKE, COULD YOU, ON THESE DAYS THAT WE HAD MUSIC, COULD YOU SHOW THAT THERE WAS AN UPTICK IN YOUR SALES? SURE.
AND THEN THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION I THINK THAT IT REALLY REQUIRES.
'CAUSE 'CAUSE EVEN COUNTING CARS DOESN'T SHOW THAT THEY MAY HAVE LINGERED A LITTLE LONGER TO LISTEN TO THE MUSIC.
THEY MAY HAVE SPENT A LITTLE MORE, LIKE THE COUNTING CARS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ENOUGH FOR ME WHEN I THINK THAT THERE'S DOLLARS THERE THAT REALLY SHOW THAT OUR SUPPORT WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK FOR IT FROM THE VENDORS.
I I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS ABSOLUTELY FAIR.
AND IF I WAS GIVING SOMEBODY MONEY, I'D ASK FOR IT TOO.
SO, AND IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE THE MUSIC, THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT, THEY'D BE LIKE, YEAH.
SO, SO WE, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE RAMONA ASKING FOR IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT WE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AS A
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BOARD, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE COME UP BRINGING YOU WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WANT TO COME UP WITH, WHAT WE THINK WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOW THAT YOUR DOLLARS ARE WELL FOR THE CITY OF.I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A FAIR, UM, REQUEST.
UM, AND IT'LL BE, IT'S GREAT INFORMATION FOR US TO HAVE.
SO THE MORE, THE MORE MARKET RESEARCH WE DO, THE MORE WE CAPTURE THOSE METRICS, THE BETTER WE DO RUNNING THE MARKET.
AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, PLEASE LET US KNOW THAT TOO.
I'LL REVISIT THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD AND I'LL REACH BACK OUT TO OUR LEGAL TEAM, UM, AND I'LL PUT TOGETHER A LIST FOR RAMONA OF WHAT INFORMATION WE NEED.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD, LIKE, ANSWERS TO PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE'LL HAVE THIS BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO THEN THE OFFICIAL POSITION IS NO ACTION, NO FUNDING IS I, THAT'S THE WAY I SAY IT IS THERE'S THREE, WE CAN EITHER EXTEND THE CONTRACT, EXTEND THE AGREEMENT FROM LAST, OUR LAST AGREEMENT, WE CAN PUT A NEW AGREEMENT PENDING OR, OR NEW FUNDING PENDING A NEW AGREEMENT OR NOTHING.
YOU KNOW, TO DIRECTOR PATTERSON'S, UM, POINT ACTION CAN BE DIRECTION TO STAFF AND LEGAL TO COME BACK WITH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPROPRIATE METRICS, UM, TO SATISFY THE BOARD FOR PURPOSES OF FUNDING AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY BE A MOTION TO BE MADE AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACT ON.
IS THAT ACCURATE? OR, OR DO NOTHING SAY NEVERMIND
I THINK THAT WITH THE HOLIDAY SEASON COMING UP, THAT THAT'S AN EXCELLENT TIME TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE, UM, OUR FULCHER FARMER'S MARKET AND BRING IN PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO MAKE, UH, PURCHASES SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE HOLIDAYS.
UM, SO I THINK MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO, UH, TO FUND WITH THE, ON THE CONTINGENCY THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AN AGREEMENT PRESENTED, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT, THAT MEETS THIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE LAID OUT HERE.
ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? I AM MAKING, I'M, MY MOTION IS, UM, THAT WE, UM, GO AHEAD AND APPROVE FUNDING, UM, THROUGH TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'LL HAVE AN, AN AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN, UH, SIGNED OFF BY BOTH SIDES.
BOTH, BOTH PARTIES, UM, FOR US TO HAVE APPROVAL FOR FUTURE FUNDING.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? DOES THAT MOTION ALSO DIRECT THE STAFF TO MAKE SUCH AN AGREEMENT? YES.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
ARE YOU ANTICIPATING, UH, SPLITTING THAT? I, I I AM FOLLOWING THE ROBERT RULES OF ORDER AT THIS POINT? UH, MY ONLY, MY ONLY THING WOULD BE, I THINK THAT BE GIVEN THE TIME OF YEAR TO TAKE AWAY THE SUPPORT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE WRITTEN DOCUMENT IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE FARMER'S MARKET AND THUS DETRIMENTAL TO FULCHER.
SO FOR THAT REASON I WOULD ALSO AGREE.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES FROM THE A BOARD.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY ACTION ON BEHALF OF THE B BOARD? I'LL MAKE A SIMILAR MOTION TO A BOARD AND, UH, THE CONTINUING SUPPORT OF STER FARMER MARKET FOR ONE MONTH PENDING, UH, LEGAL MATTERS ARE ADDRESSED BY STAFF IN, IN OUR LEGAL TEAM.
MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
JUST, YEAH, JUST LET AGENDA ITEM
[7. Economic Development Report ]
SEVEN IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REPORT.I'LL, UH, KICK US OFF WITH THE UPDATE FROM THE RETAIL COACH.
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SPOKE TO AARON LAST WEEK AND HE IS REPORTING THAT INTEREST IN FULL SURE IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH.UM, HE WAS SHARING WITH US THAT JUST COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES HE'S WORKING IN, UM, THE VOLUME OF CALLS HE'S GETTING FOR, UM, FULL SURE IS JUST, UM, SO, SO, SO MUCH HIGHER.
UM, WE HAVE VARIOUS RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR A PLACE HERE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE REPORT IN YOUR PACKET, SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE, UH, VOODOO BREWING, TACO DELI BOWLS WHO IS ACTUALLY SEARCHING FOR A FRANCHISEE.
SO IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED
SO, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO GET A LITTLE MORE DETAILS ON WHAT EXACTLY THEY'RE NEEDING AND SEEING IF WE CAN IDENTIFY A PROPER LOCATION FOR THEM.
UM, THE RETAIL COACH WILL BE ATTENDING RETAIL LIVE IN INDIANAPOLIS ON NOVEMBER 16TH AND REPRESENTING THE CITY OF RE THERE, UM, IT'S NOT IN TEXAS, BUT ALL THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT HE NEEDS TO SPEAK TO WILL BE THERE.
SO, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME GOOD NEWS OUT OF THAT.
UM, TODAY WAS THE FIRST OPENING DAY FOR CHIBA HUTT LOCATED AT 48 46 FM 1463.
UM, AND THEN OUR, UM, NEXT RESTAURANT THAT'S SET TO OPEN IS FIRST WATCH ON DECEMBER 11TH AND THEY'RE LOCATED AT 2 7 1 2 0 FUL FUL, SHERE BEND DRIVE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY HE'S STILL CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS WITH HTO AND KAVA.
UM, AND WE HAD PREVIOUSLY MET WITH A DEVELOPER WHO WAS INTERESTED IN BRINGING TARGET TO TOWN.
UM, WE SHARED THAT WITH AARON AND HE REACHED OUT, UH, TO TARGET AND THEY LET 'EM KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE INTEREST IN SHORE CURRENTLY, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THEIR EYES ON THEIR MARKET AND REALLY JUST THE ROOFTOPS HERE UNTIL WE MEET WHATEVER THRESHOLD THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON RETAIL COACH? WHO WAS, WHO WAS SO, WHO WAS INTERESTED IN BRINGING TARGET TO RE AN INDIVIDUAL? A DEVELOPER.
BUT OH, I'D LIKE TO BUILD A TARGET BUT HE HADN'T TALKED TO TARGET.
UH, WELL HE TYPICALLY WORKS WITH TARGETS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
SO AARON DID ADVISE US THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE DILIGENT IN IDENTIFYING THE PROPER LOCATION AND DISCUSSING WHAT KINDS OF INCENTIVES WE'D BE OPEN TO, IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT DEVELOPER COULD REACH OUT TO TARGET AND, UM, CONVINCE THEM THAT THIS IS THE PLACE TO BE AND THAT THEY WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL HERE.
OKAY, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UM, OUR EDC WEBSITE LAUNCH.
SO OUR WEBSITE SHOULD GO LIVE OVERNIGHT TONIGHT.
THERE WAS SOME HICCUPS ON THURSDAY NIGHT WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO LIVE.
AND WE HAVE THE HOLIDAY ON FRIDAY, BUT I WILL SEND YOU ALL AN EMAIL AND A, A TEXT WITH THAT LINK AS SOON AS IT IS LIVE.
UM, WE ARE HOPING EARLY TOMORROW MORNING AND THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE OUR LINKEDIN PAGE.
UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T SENT ME A HEADSHOT AND A BIO, PLEASE SEND ONE OVER
I WOULD LOVE TO HIGHLIGHT OUR BOARD MEMBERS, UM, AND JUST YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
SO PLEASE, UM, SEND THAT OVER.
AND THEN, UM, AS YOU GET THAT LINK AND YOU'RE LOOKING OVER THE SITE, IF YOU SEE ANY CORRECTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO BE MADE, LET ME OR HATE TO KNOW.
UH, AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU FEEL SHOULD BE ON THERE THAT ISN'T, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT.
UM, JUST SO I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT, UM, WHO IS THE DEVELOPER THE SAME AS THE ONE THAT DEVELOPED NO, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COMPANY.
AND THE URL IS, IF I GOOGLE, UH, FULL SHORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT WILL POP UP OR NOT? WILL IT? UH, HOW DO I, HOW, HOW WILL I, IF I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT URL, UH, HOW WOULD I EVER FIND THE WEBSITE? IT WILL BE LINKED, UH, ON OUR CITY WEBSITE UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PAGE.
SO IF I GO TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THERE WILL BE A LINK, A DIRECT LINK TO WEBSITE TO THE EEC? YES, SIR.
ALRIGHT, UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THERE IS THE SCARECROW FESTIVAL RECAP.
SO ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 28TH, UH, THE CITY AND THE CHAMBER HOSTED THE STER SCARECROW FESTIVAL.
UM, THANK YOU TO TOMMY WHO IS OUT THERE WITH US PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE EVENT HANDING OUT CANDY.
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IT WAS A REALLY FUN EVENT AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU STOPPED BY AS WELL.UM, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE.
UH, THERE WERE OVER 50 BOOTHS AND OVERALL IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL AND WELL ATTENDED EVENT, SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW AND WE ATTEND, INTEND TO CONTINUE PARTICIPATING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN ANY CHAMBER EVENTS, UM, INTO THE FUTURE AND HAVING A PRESENCE THERE.
PEOPLE DO COME UP TO US AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHAT DO Y'ALL DO? SO IT'S, UH, FUN TO JUST LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
WHAT WAS YOUR, UH, OPINION OF THE LOCATION? UH, THE LOCATION? OH GEEZ, CHIEF IS HERE.
UM, IT WORKED WELL, UM, IN MY OPINION.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME, SOME ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE WHEN IT, IT STARTED AND THEN AT THE END.
UM, BUT THE SETUP OF THE ACTUAL EVENT ITSELF WORKED REALLY WELL.
IT WAS VISIBLE AND I MEAN, IT WAS GREAT.
YEAH, I WAS THERE AND I THOUGHT IT WORKED REALLY WELL.
ALRIGHT, I'LL MOVE ON, UM, TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS REZONING REQUESTS.
UM, SO IN THE LAST MONTH THERE'VE BEEN A COUPLE OF REZONING REQUESTS BEFORE PLANNING, UM, AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND I WANTED TO SHARE THEM WITH YOU ALL.
UM, FIRST THERE WAS A REQUEST TO REZONE A GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, THIS IS A 17 ACRE PROPERTY, UH, BEHIND THE STARBUCKS ON 1463.
UM, THE SECOND REQUEST WAS FROM OWEN'S MANAGEMENT TO REZONE THE PROPERTY OFF OF 10 93 AND CHARGER WAY WHERE JUMPSTART DAYCARE IS.
AND, UM, THAT REQUEST WAS TO CHANGE FROM DOWNTOWN DISTRICT TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO PUT A GAS STATION THERE.
UM, BOTH OF THESE REQUESTS WERE DENIED BY PNC AND THEN, UM, ALSO BY COUNCIL.
I, I'M NOT SURE IF THE SECOND ONE HAS SET TO COUNCIL ONLY.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE 17 ACRES.
THE OTHER IS SET TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL TOMORROW.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.
HE, HE SAW THIS AND REACHED OUT, UM, AND SAID, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE THOSE UPDATES.
SO FROM HERE ON OUT I WILL, I DID SPEAK WITH OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR AND HE WILL KEEP ME IN THE LOOP WITH ALL OF THIS, UM, AND SEND SUMMARIES SO THAT I CAN UPDATE YOU ALL ON A WEEKLY BASIS ON WHAT THOSE TALKS ARE.
UM, IT WOULD BE PRETTY CONCERNING TO LOSE 17 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE HAVING ALL KINDS OF ISSUES WITH THE ETJ LANDOWNERS.
UM, SO WE DO KEEP OUR EYE ON THAT INTERNALLY AND WE WE'RE ALWAYS, UH, USUALLY PART OF THOSE MEETINGS WITH OUR PLANNING TEAM AND OUR, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
BUT I WILL KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED IN REAL TIME FROM NOW ON WHEN IT COMES TO THESE TYPES OF REZONING REQUESTS.
ARE THEY PRESENTING IT IN A WAY THAT DEMONSTRATES HOW IT WOULD BENEFIT THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY OF RE I THINK THEY PRESENT IT IN A WAY TO SHOW HOW IT WOULD BENEFIT THEM.
I GUESS THAT'S WHERE, UM, WE, WE DO, WE LEAN ON, DO YOU WATCH, WE LEAN ON COUNCIL.
DO YOU WATCH THE COUNCIL MEETINGS? I DO.
DO AND THE PNZ MEETINGS OR
SO I MEAN, ON THAT PARTICULAR 17 POINT, WHATEVER ACRES OF LAND, UH, THE DEVELOP, THE DEVELOPER THAT WANTED TO REZONE IT AND DEVELOP IT MADE A VERY CLEAR CASE FOR THE BOTH THE CITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU, UH, IMMEDIATELY PUT X MILLION DOLLARS, UH, ON THE GROUND AND YOU'RE GONNA GET TAX
THAT YEAR THEY START DEVELOPING IT, AND THE OTHER CASE WAS NOT DOING ANYTHING.
AND SO THAT WAS CONSIDERED, BUT I THINK IN GENERAL, AND I WAS GONNA GIVE AN UPDATE, SO I'LL JUST DO IT NOW, IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF FELT THAT WITH THE LACK OF COMMERCIAL LAND THAT THE CITY HAS, YOU KNOW, THEY FELT LIKE THAT IT SHOULD, WE SHOULD NOT REZONE IT.
THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT THAT LAND HAS BEEN THERE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, SINCE 2000, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, BUT 2014 OR, OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? AND IT DOESN'T HAVE REAL VISIBILITY AND IT DOESN'T HAVE REAL ACCESS.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHY HAS IT NOT BEEN DEVELOPED COMMERCIALLY.
UM, SO THERE WAS A WHOLE ARGUMENT AND A CASE PRESENTED ON BOTH SIDES.
UH, BUT THE, I WAS NOT HERE, BUT I WATCHED THE COUNCIL MEETING
SO THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS NO APPETITE FOR, UH, EVEN DISCUSSION ON THAT REALLY.
SO IT WAS A MOTION TO DENY AS SOON AS IT WAS, UH, PRESENTED BY STAFF.
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BUT THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED WAS THE, UM, THE ANNEXATION OF THE 2.3 WHATEVER ACRES AT TEXAS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND 10 93.SO THAT WAS A, A REZONING, UH, OH, SORRY.
AN ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY LIMITS.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, A ZONING FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
SO THERE'LL BE A, YOU PROBABLY SEE THE SIGN, THERE WILL BE A GAS STATION AT THAT NORTHEAST CORNER.
CHARLIE, IN THOSE CASES, CAN THEY DO A 0 8 3 AGREEMENT? NO, A REVERSE 3 80 0 8 3
THE, IT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED YET.
UH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON WITH THE MARKET IN DEVELOPING, UH, LOAN DEMAND FOR CONSTRUCTION IS JUST FALLING OFF A CLIFF.
SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE WHILE, BUT IN THE LONG TERM, GIVING UP COMMERCIAL LAND IN, IN, IN OUR CITIES, UH, IS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE AVOIDED, UH, WHERE IT'S, AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN NOW.
AND WE DID, UM, FOLLOWING THOSE MEETINGS, WE DID TALK TO AARON FARMER AND LET HIM KNOW TO PLEASE MARKET THAT AS HEAVILY AS POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT, UM, HIS PRESENCE IN INDIANAPOLIS AND ANY OTHER CONVERSATION HE, HE HAS WITH PEOPLE INTERESTED IN COMING TO SHORE.
I'M SURE THAT THE EXPANSION OF 1463 HINDERS GROWTH RIGHT NOW, BUT WILL DO THE OPPOSITE ONCE IT'S ACTUALLY DONE.
'CAUSE WE CERTAINLY SEE A, A HIT ON OUR SALES.
GRANTED, WE'RE ON THE KATIE SIDE OF 1463, BUT YEAH, I CAN'T IMAGINE TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING AND START SOMETHING NEW WITH THE NONSENSE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
THE RE FAST TRACK IS WHAT WE ARE, UM, CALLING OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CANNON.
SO OUR AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SIGNED, AND THE OFFICIAL START DATE IS NOVEMBER THE 19TH.
WE HAVE A DESIGNATED WORKING SPACE FOR MATT.
UM, AND YOU WILL LIKELY RECEIVE AN INVITATION IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO NETWORKING SOCIALS.
SO THE CANON WILL BE ORGANIZING TO KIND OF GET THE WORD OUT THERE AND, UM, GET YOU ALL FEELING COMFORTABLE WITH HOW TO SHARE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT THAT'LL LOOK LIKE FOR OUR, UM, ENTREPRENEURS HERE LOCALLY.
UM, IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TOUR THE CANNON AND YOU HAVEN'T YET, LET US KNOW, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SET THAT UP FOR YOU.
UH, AND MAY I BRING UP THAT I TOURED THE CANNON DOWNTOWN, HAPPENED TO BE IN A, IN THE BUILDING AS A, UH, A BANK BUILDING.
UH, I WAS HAVING A, A SEPARATE MEETING AND I TOURED THE CANNON DOWNTOWN, AND IT WAS VERY BUSY FOR A TUESDAY AFTERNOON OR MORNING AFTERNOON.
AND, UM, IT WAS A PRETTY COOL EXPERIENCE.
SO I, UH, DEFINITELY RECOMMEND YOU, YOU GO OUT AND SEE ONE OF THEM.
I DIDN'T, I WASN'T AT THE BIG CAMPUS IN KATY.
IT WAS SMALL, BUT IT WAS, UH, OCCUPIED FOR SURE.
LIKE EVERY, EVERY OFFICE WAS OCCUPIED.
UM, UH, OUR LAST MEETING, YOU HAD ALL ASKED TO KIND OF HAVE THAT WE WOULD LOOK INTO PARKING STRUCTURES, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE? UM, WE JUST DID A, YOU KNOW, GOOD OLD GOOGLE SEARCH
AND, UM, THE NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR A PARKING STRUCTURE IS 9.75 MILLION.
UM, THEY RANGE FROM SEVEN TO 12 MILLION DEPENDING ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT USUALLY, UM, ANYTHING WITH, YOU KNOW, MULTI-LEVEL IS GOING TO GO ON THE HIGHER END.
AND THEN THERE'S A QUESTION OF IS IT UNDERGROUND OR ABOVE GROUND? SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS.
WHAT MATERIALS DO YOU USE THAT WOULD IMPACT THAT COST? BUT GENERALLY THAT'S, UM, THAT'S WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
SO IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 19,000 TO $30,000 PER PARKING SPACE.
UM, YOU HAD ALSO ASKED WHAT WOULD BE, UM, A GOOD NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES TO AIM FOR THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE FEASIBLE TO USE THAN NEW HARRIS STREET FOR AN EVENT.
SO I'VE ASKED, UM, CHIEF SEYMOUR TO COME SHARE HIS, UM, PROFESSIONAL OPINION WITH YOU ALL ON WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE INTO A PARKING SPACE AND OUT, UM, FOR AN EVENT DOWNTOWN AFTER HARRIS STREET IS COMPLETED.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M GONNA DISQUALIFY MYSELF AS ANY KIND OF ENGINEER.
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GUESS, UH, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO NELL, UM, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY, WE, WE'VE BEEN DOING EVENTS.UM, WE STARTED THE DOWNTOWN WHEN I STARTED IN 2009.
AND SO THERE'S NOT A WAY THAT WE'VE NOT DONE AN EVENT, AND WE'VE DONE THE REVERSE OF THAT EVENT.
AND WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, TO A POINT WHERE WE STARTED TO DO PARADES AND THEN I COULDN'T GET EVERYBODY OUTTA THE STREET.
SO WE JUST HAD AN EVENT IN THE STREET, AND IT WAS IMPROMPTU US.
UM, AND SO IN THAT, WE SEE ALL THE CHALLENGES AND, UM, SOME YEARS LATER WE, THE, THE CITY CAME UP WITH ITS EVENT PERMIT, AND THAT HELPED A LOT OF THINGS, UH, SUCH AS THE BIKING EVENTS, WHICH USED TO BE HUGE, UH, IN FULL SHARE AT, AT A TIME.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING TO HAVE, UH, TWO, THREE, 4,000 BIKES ON A SATURDAY MORNING, UH, IN THE CITY OF RE.
AND SO WE HAD TO KIND OF HELP WITH, WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE THERE.
SAFETY, WE, WE HAD, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD SOME, SOME, UH, AUTO PEDESTRIANS, HAD SOME PEOPLE KILLED, UH, DURING SOME BIKE EVENTS.
UM, AND, AND SO NOW THE SAFETY ISSUE BECAME, UH, UH, A PROBLEM.
UM, INEVITABLY WE GET TO PARKING.
AND WHAT I'VE ALWAYS DONE, AND THE MEASUREMENT THAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE FOR THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE ON THE UPWARDS, UH, 4TH OF JULY, I WOULD SAY, ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN TO 8,000 PEOPLE THAT ATTEND.
UM, AND I'VE JUST DONE BASICALLY SIMPLE MATH, JUST LIKE WE DO HOUSEHOLDS 3.2, YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 10,000 PEOPLE, AND THAT'S THE NUMBER OF CARS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ANTICIPATE.
SO ANYTIME WE ASK ON THE EVENT PERMIT, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ANTICIPATE? WELL, WE WANNA SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE OFFSETTING THAT PARKING, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE REAL ESTATE FOR THAT.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THEN PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
PARK IN PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS BLOCK, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, DRIVE-THROUGHS, UM, HINDER BUSINESSES AND OTHER THINGS THAT ACTUALLY CREATE BIGGER PROBLEMS. AND SO A LOT OF THAT JUST, JUST KIND OF THE HISTORY OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN GROWING PAINS, UH, TO A POINT WHERE NOW WE JUST MOVED THOSE INTO BIG PARKING LOTS, LIKE THE SCHOOLS, AND WE HAVE FILLED UP THOSE SCHOOLS.
UM, AND THAT IS A, MAYBE A PROBLEM.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE, BUT AGAIN, KIND OF OFFSETTING THE, THE, THE PARKING, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO REALLY JUST KIND OF MEASURE THE TYPE OF EVENTS AND ENVISION WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING.
UH, THE HEB PARKING THAT WE'VE USED, THE FIELD, OBVIOUSLY TODAY, WE COULDN'T BE PARKING THERE.
UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF DRIVEN BY THE WEATHER AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THAT PARKING LOT HOLDS ABOUT 800 VEHICLES.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT, AT 8,000 PEOPLE ATTENDING YOUR EVENT, AND THE OTHER ISSUE IS, UH, 4TH OF JULY, GENERALLY EVERYBODY LEAVES AFTER THE FIREWORKS.
SO THEY MIGHT GET THERE FRAGMENTED, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE AS SOON AS THE LAST FIREWORKS POP.
WELL, THAT'S 8,000 PEOPLE TRYING TO LEAVE AT ONE TIME.
SO NOW WE HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES.
SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE TRIED TO DEAL WITH, AND WE TRIED TO OFFSET, UM, TO A POINT WHERE THE LAST, UH, 4TH OF JULY EVENT WHERE WE HAD AT, UH, JORDAN, AND WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COULDN'T GET IT.
WE COULDN'T GET ANYBODY ELSE IN THE SCHOOL, UH, DIDN'T THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT NOW WHAT WE HAD IS OFFSET PEOPLE BARKING ON THE STREETS, CREATES MOBILITY.
THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO GO TO OUR EVENTS.
AND SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND OF THAT AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOUNT FOR PARKING.
UH, AND WHAT IS THAT PARKING GONNA LOOK LIKE? WE JUST HAD AN EVENT HERE SATURDAY, UH, WHICH WAS THE POLICE FOUNDATION.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF FIGURING THIS IS PROBABLY THE LAST TIME WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT THERE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE EVENT'S GOTTEN BIGGER TO A POINT WHERE I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE, AND WE'RE NOT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUR EVENT, WE'RE NOT GONNA PARK ON THE STREET.
I DON'T WANT TO HINDER, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
UH, AND AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE CROSSING, PEDESTRIANS JUST DON'T WANT NO ACCIDENTS.
AND, UH, AND SO IN THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR FIRST FOCUS IS, IS HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE FROM THE EVENT TO, UM, TO THE VENUE AND WHERE IS THE VENUE? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE, ARE UNDERSTANDING.
THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK AT ON THE EVENT PERMIT.
IT'S MULTIPLE PAGES THAT WE ASK EVERYBODY, INCLUDING, UM, THE CITY I'VE HAD, I'VE HAD THEM FILL THAT OUT BECAUSE IT, IT ACCOUNTS FOR A LOT OF THINGS, UH, PARKING AND, UH, MOBILITY, ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I CAN'T TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURALLY OR, OR TRAFFIC WISE.
UH, I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT I'VE SET UP MANY INTERSECTIONS AND HAD TO MAKE IT WORK, UH, WHEN IT WASN'T WORKING.
SO, UH, ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP YOU GUYS, UH, UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT MAYBE SOME OF THE DYNAMICS ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL TAKE A SHOT AT IT, PROBABLY ESTIMATED.
AND THEN I'VE, I'VE ASKED BEFORE ABOUT SHUTTLING FROM A CERTAIN DESIGNATED SPOT TO THE EVENT DOWNTOWN.
WOULD THAT BE FEASIBLE OR IS THAT ALL? IT WOULD BE AWESOME, EXCEPT PEOPLE WON'T DO IT.
WE'VE DONE THAT FOR OUR CHURCH EVENTS.
WE'VE DONE THAT FOR 4TH OF JULY.
WE, WE ACTUALLY HAD A BUS SET THERE, UH, TO MOVE BACK AND FORTH.
I THINK WE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE BUSED TO THE EVENT
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WERE 12.SO I ACTUALLY SENT THE BUS HOME, UH, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T, WE WEREN'T USING IT.
AND, AND WE HAD, I THINK WE HAD THREE OR FOUR SCHOOL BUSES THAT WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE, UH, AT THAT PARTICULAR EVENT.
AND WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? UM, I THINK IT WAS THE LAST EVENT WE HAD DOWNTOWN, SO PROBABLY FOUR, MAYBE FIVE YEARS AGO.
WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT HERE FOR DOWNTOWN AREA, JUST IN GENERAL, IF WE HAVE AN EVENT IN FUTURE DOWNTOWN, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL THAT AREA HOLD? UM, AGAIN, WE'VE, WE PUT, UH, ON THE, ON THE STREET ITSELF, UH, FROM WHERE THE, I GUESS WHERE THE PIZZA PLACE IS, UH, ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN TO FOURTH STREET, WE'VE PUT ON UPWARDS OF 10,000 PEOPLE ON THAT STREET.
SO WE'RE TALKING PARKING GARAGE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO PARK 3000 CARS.
IF WE TAKE THE LOW END, $20,000 PER SPACE, DO YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS? YES.
I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE, I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT I, EVERY CONVERSATION I HAVE ON THIS EVERY, IS YOU RUN INTO TWO ISSUES OR THREE ISSUES.
NUMBER ONE, YOUR NUMBER ONE, YOUR FIRST CONSTRAINT IS WE ONLY WANT TO HAVE GOOD EVENTS DOWNTOWN, WHICH ARE GONNA BRING A THOUSAND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, 8,000 PEOPLE.
UM, SO THEN WE NEED A PLACE FOR THEM TO PARK, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE.
AND WE'RE TALK, SO WE START BRAINSTORMING PARKING GARAGES, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF MATH TO REALIZE YOU NEED MULTIPLE PARKING GARAGES.
AND THEN IF YOU'VE SPENT ANY TIME DOWNTOWN, YOU REALIZE THAT THOSE ARE NOT BIG STREETS AND EVERYONE'S GONNA LEAVE AT THE SAME TIME.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA SIT THERE IN THE PARKING GARAGE FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS.
SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR.
UM, AND IS MORE COMPLICATE, I THINK WE HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WE CAN'T YET SOLVE IN TERMS OF WEST SIDE DRAINAGE, EAST SIDE DRAINAGE HARRIS STREET PROJECT DONE YET, THAT'S WHERE I'M LANDING ON EVERY TIME WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
WELL, I'M JUST GLAD THAT WE HAVE A, A NUMBER NOW.
THAT WAS, UH, 8,000, THAT'S FAR TOO MUCH FOR A PARKING GARAGE, OBVIOUSLY ONE ANYWAY, RIGHT? UM, WELL, TWO, CLEARLY.
BUT, UM, THAT'S WHERE I THOUGHT THE STARTING POINT WOULD BE.
SO, UM, I GUESS GOING FORWARD, WE'RE EVENTS HELD IN THE CITY OF RE AND, AND, AND IF I CAN SHARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, BUT SINCE 2009, THAT'S SOMETHING WE JUGGLE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE THE, THE SCHOOL, THE VENUE, WE DO RUN INTO SOME ISSUES THAT I THINK, UH, IN CAMPUSES, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA PLAY BY THE HOME RULES.
UH, WE CAN'T HAVE ALCOHOL AT THE SCHOOLS.
WE CAN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO THAT KIND OF HAMPERS, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME I, I'M NOT, I DON'T CARE EITHER WAY ABOUT THE ALCOHOL AS LONG AS WE'RE DOING IT RESPONSIBLY.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE HAVING TO PLAY BY CERTAIN RULES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BORROWING SOMEBODY'S, SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.
AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY BREAK.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE BRING ALCOHOL INTO THE SCHOOL.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S NOT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE ENTITY THAT WAS HOLDING THE EVENT, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED IT, IT WAS JUST, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO.
AND THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE PART, IS THAT WE CAN HAVE THE BEST PLAN.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING EVENTS HERE, AND I'VE BEEN VERY, I SHOWED WHAT 10,000 CARS LOOKED LIKE.
I HAD OUR, OUR GIS PEOPLE PUT, WHAT, 12.5 ACRES IS, WHICH THE PARKING AVAIL AVAILABILITY AT FOSTER HIGH SCHOOL, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OUT HERE.
AND I ROUGHLY GO ABOUT FOUR MILES AROUND.
AND SO AGAIN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T, UH, WANT TO GO TO OUR EVENTS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO THEN WE'RE JUST WANNA GO HOME.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE DO GET INTO SAFETY AND OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANNA SACRIFICE SAFETY FOR AN EVENT.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE LOOK AT AS, AS FAR AS THE CONTINGENCY ON IT.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WEREN'T PLANNING FOR THE 8,000, AGAIN, THOSE ARE OUR BIGGER EVENTS.
UH, 4TH OF JULY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A, A BIG ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, PRODUCED A, A VERY GOOD EVENT.
YOU KNOW, I WAS APPROACHED, UM, IN 2010 ABOUT HAVING THE JAZZ FESTIVAL OUT HERE, AND I DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE JAZZ FESTIVAL UNTIL THEY TOLD ME THERE WAS 25,000 PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WAS GREAT.
UH, PEOPLE SAW FULCHER, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE VENUE FOR IT.
UM, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE, UM, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER OUT HERE.
BUT UNTIL WE CAN HAVE A, A VENUE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S NOT AN OPEN FIELD OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT IS CONTINGENT
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ON, YOU KNOW, IT BEING AVAILABLE TO US, UM, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE KIND OF HANDCUFFED WITH THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WHEN IT COMES TO EVENTS.AND, AND THAT'S JUST, AGAIN, STANDING FROM THE POLICE ASPECT OF IT.
'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PERMIT GOES THROUGH TWO, TWO PROCESSES.
IT GOES THROUGH, UH, THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND WHERE SHARON TAKES A LOOK AT IT THEN, THEN OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ASPECT TO, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MUCH SECURITY DO YOU NEED? AGAIN, THERE'S TWO POINTS OF SAFETY, BOTH THE MOBILITY, SAFETY, AND INTERNAL SAFETY.
UH, SO WE LOOK AT IT FROM THERE TO MAKE SURE WHOMEVER IT IS THAT'S, THAT'S TRYING TO ACQUIRE THIS PERMIT, UH, HAS ALL THOSE THINGS IN PLACE.
UH, AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL IS, IS THE CITY MANAGER.
SO, BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, T TYPICALLY HE'S GONNA GO OFF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE ON THE PERMIT.
YEAH, THAT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE THAT WE SHOULD BE WHERE WE KNOW THAT MAYBE WE CAN'T HANDLE THE 10,000 PEOPLE EVENT, BUT WE NEED SOME KIND OF PARKING DOWNTOWN, ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT TO SPUR ON COMMERCIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT AND INCREASE TRAFFIC TO THOSE BUSINESSES.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO THINK ON.
AND, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD IT FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, JUST LET ME KNOW.
UM, SO, UH, LAST ON MY DIRECTOR'S REPORT, I HAVE, UH, AN UPDATE ON THE BICENTENNIAL EVENT.
SO IF YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE SCREENS, IT PRINTED A LITTLE WONKY IN YOUR POCKET.
UM, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ON.
UM, THE, THE EDC, UH, FUNDING THAT WAS APPROVED FOR EVENTS.
SOME OF IT WILL GO TOWARDS THIS.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO GET THE DETAILS.
COUNSEL WILL GET TO SEE THIS TOMORROW EVENING AT THEIR MEETING.
UM, OUR BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH THE 23RD FROM 4:00 PM TO 8:00 PM IT'LL BE, UH, THE EVENT ITSELF WILL BE, OH, I'M JUST REALIZING THIS IS TAKING FOREVER.
SO THE EVENT WILL BE SET UP, UM, IN FRONT OF FULCHER HIGH SCHOOL, UM, USING A COUPLE OF THE LOTS IN DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEN ALL OF THE PARKING FOR JAMES ROBERTS AND THE JUNIOR HIGH, UM, IS ALL RESERVED TO BE EVENT PARKING FOR THAT DAY.
AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING, UM, WITH L-C-I-S-D FOR THAT, AND THEY HAVE JUST BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH.
THEY'RE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL IN, UM, KEEPING TRACK OF THE, OH, NO, IS THERE AN ERROR? UH, THE, NO, I SAID YOU HAVE YOUR LEGEND ON HERE FOR THE THAT'S GOOD.
UM, LET'S SEE, WHERE AM I? OKAY, THERE IT IS.
SO THESE ARE THE LOGOS THAT WERE, UM, DESIGNED IN HOUSE.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO KEEP IT IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT BRANDING FOR THIS CITY.
UM, THERE'S TALKS OF CREATING SOME CHALLENGE COINS AND OTHER MARKETING MATERIALS.
SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THAT CIRCLE.
AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, EVENT LOGO WILL BE KIND OF THE PRIMARY THING YOU WILL SEE ON ALL OF THE MARKETING MATERIALS FOR ENTERTAINMENT.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE LAST, UM, FEW AGREEMENTS.
UH, OUR LEGAL TEAM ADVISED THAT THE CITY ENTER INTO THOSE AGREEMENTS.
SO, UM, THEY ARE WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEY, BUT THEY, UM, SHOULD BE GETTING SUBMITTED PRETTY SOON.
UM, WE WILL HAVE REWIND TEXAS OPEN FOR THE EVENT, AND THEN SUNDANCE HEAD US THE HEADLINER.
SO WE'LL HAVE SOME GOOD VARIETY OF MUSIC THERE.
UH, THE GUEST LIST, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ON THIS, BUT OUR GUEST LIST IS MADE UP OF CURRENT, UM, AND PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYORS, THE MEMBERS OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, OUR LOCAL CHURCHES, OUR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, AND OF COURSE OUR WONDERFUL RESIDENTS.
I HAD A LITTLE MAP OF THE EVENT LAYOUT, BUT IT JUST ESSENTIALLY SHOWS, YOU KNOW, WHERE, UM, EMS WOULD BE LOCATED, WHERE OUR VENDOR BOOTHS WOULD BE, WHERE THE KID ZONE AREA WILL BE, WHERE THE STAGE WILL BE, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, BUT NOTHING UNUSUAL.
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UM, SO THE BIG BLUE SECTION, THAT'S WHERE THE COMMAND, UH, TRAILER WILL BE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS EMS AND OUR FIRE.AND THEN KIND OF A LITTLE TENT FOR ANY VOLUNTEERS WHO NEED TO REST
THEIR EQUIPMENT'S PRETTY LARGE
UM, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO MANEUVER THE TRAILERS AND THE FIRE TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING THEY NEED.
THERE IS A HISTORICAL COMPONENT TO THIS, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UM, WITH THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION, UM, HEATHER MCADOO.
UM, WE'VE HAD VARIOUS MEETINGS WITH HER, BUT THE, THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION IS LAUNCHING A ARCHIVING SYSTEM WHERE THEY ARE DIGITIZING ANY ITEMS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS BRINGING TO THEM.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL START WITH THE DIGITAL CAMPAIGN TO GATHER ALL THOSE.
UM, AND THEN THEY, UH, HOPE TO DIGITIZE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN FROM JANUARY TO MARCH TO KIND OF CREATE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SHARE ON OUR WEBSITES.
UM, LAST YEAR WE STARTED THE VERY FIRST, UH, EDC PHOTO CONTESTS, WHICH WENT REALLY WELL.
SO WE WOULD THEME THIS NEXT YEAR, UM, WITH WHAT DOES FULCHER MEAN TO YOU? AND KIND OF IN THAT DESCRIPTION INCLUDE, UM, A, A REQUEST FOR HISTORIC PHOTOS OF FAMILY OR PLACES HERE IN SHORE THAT WE COULD SHARE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE FIND FULCHER HASHTAG TO KIND OF GENERATE THAT BUZZ ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO WE'RE CREATING THE CUTOUTS OF FULCHER, UM, OF CHURCHILL AND GETTING, UH, EVENTS, OR NOT EVENTS, UM, BUSINESSES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING, HOSTING HIM AT THEIR STORE AND KIND OF PUTTING A QR CODE AND CREATING A LITTLE SCAVENGER MOUTH WHERE PEOPLE CAN VISIT THESE BUSINESSES AND BE ENTERED TO WIN A PRIZE.
UM, AND THEN OUR GIS, UH, ANALYST AND OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ARE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH A PHOTO PROJECT THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
AND THIS WILL BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN LOOK THROUGH TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY THROUGH THE YEARS AND KIND OF WHAT WAS ADDED TO IT.
SO I THINK THAT WILL BE A REALLY INTERESTING THING THAT WE CAN ALL SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON GATHERING SPONSORSHIPS.
I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE, UM, THAT CAME IN THIS MORNING, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES I HAD WHEN I PUT THE PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
THEY'RE, UM, VARYING AMOUNTS, BUT THEY'VE RAISED A LITTLE OVER $20,000 TO GO TOWARDS THE EVENT.
I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THE DETAILS WERE AND BE INFORMED.
UH, THE LIVE MUSIC, DEFINITELY.
AND WE'RE HOPING TO CLOSE THE EVENT WITH FIREWORKS, DEPENDING ON THE SPONSORSHIPS THAT COME IN, THERE IS A SPECIAL SURPRISE THAT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY NEAT.
SO
GIVE US THAT CONTACT INFORMATION AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO APPROACH THEM.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR MY REPORT.
ITEM NUMBER NINE, CEC AND FTC FINANCIALS AND PAYABLES.
OH, SORRY, DID I SKIP? OKAY, SORRY.
IN THE PACK THERE'S NO COVER SHEET.
THERE WERE NO ATTACHMENTS FOR THAT ONE, SO WE'LL, WE'LL READ THEM.
[8. Discussion and presentation on an update to City of Fulshear Economic Development Strategy. ]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION ON UPDATE TO CITY OF FUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.UM, SO WE MET WITH, UH, CHARLIE DREAM COOL FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS THIS PAST WEEK AND WENT ITEM BY ITEM ON THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX, UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE 2019 STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, WE'VE EDITED TO REMOVE ANY ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THEN, UM, WE'LL UPDATE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS AND
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CREATE NEW ITEMS TO REFLECT NEW PRIORITIES AND PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN.SO I JUST HAVE A GENERAL LIST, UH, ON WHAT WE'RE ADDING FOR YOU TONIGHT, AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT LISTED HERE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO INCLUDE, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
UM, UPDATING OUR CURRENT DEMOGRAPHICS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS, UPDATING OUR GOALS AND SPECIFIC PROJECTS, UM, INCLUDING SOME KIND OF GUIDE FOR, UM, OUR HOPE TO INCLUDE PUBLIC ART AND DOWNTOWN PARKING.
UM, DISCUSSING THE FUTURE OF ABOARD THE 2019 STRATEGIC PLAN, RECOMMENDED THAT ABOARD BE DISSOLVED AND, UM, THE, THE SALES TAX THAT WOULD USUALLY GO TO A ABOARD TO BE SPLIT BETWEEN B BOARD AND THE CITY.
SO I'LL BE, UM, I'LL START WITH SCHEDULING A MEETING WITH BRIAN AND TOMMY TO DISCUSS WHAT THE FUTURE OF ABOARD COULD BE LIKE.
WE HAVE SOME IDEAS, BUT WE'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, WHAT THEY THINK AND WHAT YOU ALL THINK.
UM, THERE'S ALSO BEEN JUST DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY, UH, ABOUT ESTABLISHING A TURS, UM, A PIT OR AN MMD.
THESE ARE ALL JUST DIFFERENT TYPES OF AGREEMENTS AND MECHANISMS THAT WOULD SPUR, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, SO JUST HAVING A ACTUAL STANCE ON THAT, THAT WE CAN REFER BACK TO AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
IT WOULD, UM, ASSERT IT, IT WOULD BE A VEHICLE TO GET SOMETHING HERE.
UM, WE RAN INTO JUST DIFFERENT CHALLENGES WITH THE IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE THAT THE CITY HAS.
IT HAS PREVENTED, UM, REALLY IT'S, IT'S BEEN THE MAIN BARRIER IN GETTING A HOTEL HERE.
AND SO WE'RE JUST HOPING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION TO GIVE TO THE CITY ON HOW, HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.
UM, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? THE MAIN DETRIMENT TO A HOTEL IS THE IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST FAR TOO HIGH OR, UH, YES, THEY ARE, UH, INCREDIBLY HIGH.
AND COMPARED TO ANY SURROUNDING AREAS TO FULL SHARE, IT WOULD ADD ANYWHERE FROM 3 MILLION TO 6 MILLION WOW.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CONVINCE A BUSINESS TO CHOOSE FULL SHARE.
TO BUILD A $10 MILLION HOTEL FOR $6 MILLION RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE, OH YEAH.
WELL, THE COST OF THE HOTEL, WHICH I THINK OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY SAYS ABOUT 11 TO 13 MILLION PLUS THE IMPACT FEES ON TOP OF THAT.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A BIG CHALLENGE, UM, AND SOMETHING WE'RE HOPING TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS DO
YEAH, WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT FOR YOU.
UM, AND THEN ALONG THE SAME LINES WITH THE NEW LEGISLATION THAT, UM, WENT INTO EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, THAT ALLOWS FOR THOSE PROPERTIES IN THE ETJ TO PETITION OUT.
I MEAN, WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THE LIMITED COMMERCIAL LAND WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND NOW, UM, THESE, THESE TRACKS IN OUR ETJ CAN NOW PETITION TO LEAVE THE ETJ.
UM, IT'S JUST A LOT OF CHALLENGES COMING OUR WAY.
SO WE WANNA KIND OF OUTLINE HOW WE COULD TACKLE THAT ISSUE AND COME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.
UM, I DID SPEAK WITH DON ABOUT THIS, UM, AND SHARED WITH HIM THAT WE ARE HOPING TO REDEFINE WHAT A, UM, A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHAMBER LOOKS LIKE, UM, AND KIND OF LOOK TO NEIGHBORS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES ON WHAT'S WORKED WELL FOR THEM.
AND SO, UM, HE WAS VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT.
AND, UM, HE SAID THAT THEY'RE REVISITING THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN, SO HE HOPES THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION SO HE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN HIS AS WELL AS WE WORK TOGETHER, UM, INTO THE FUTURE.
AND ALONG THOSE LINES, WE'VE BEEN, UM, IN TALKS WITH DIFFERENT, UH, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO SET UP A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE, UM, AND KIND OF EMPOWER OUR PROPERTY OWNERS AND OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS IN THAT WAY.
UM, SO WE HOPE TO INCLUDE SOME OF THAT IN THERE AS WELL.
UM, I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE, UM, VERY BRIEFLY THAT WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT ADDING A NEW STAFF MEMBER TO THE EDC TEAM.
AND, UM, RIGHT NOW WHAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST.
SO WITH, UM, WITH THE WEBSITE LAUNCHING AND OUR LINKEDIN PAGE LAUNCHING, THAT ADDS A LOT OF WORK, UM, FOR, FOR BOTH OF US TO MAKE SURE THAT INFORMATION IS ACCURATE AND UP TO DATE.
AND WE'RE ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST VIRTUALLY, BUT ALSO ATTENDING COMMUNITY EVENTS.
UM, IT'S JUST NOTHING COMPARES TO CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE FACE TO FACE.
SO HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE EDC THAT'S ABLE TO VISIT THOSE BUSINESSES, SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING, WHAT OUR BUSINESS OWNERS ARE NEEDING, UM, WOULD BE
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GREAT.UM, DOES THAT NEW POSITION TAKE PART OF THE WORKLOAD THAT WE WILL BE ACQUIRING? BECAUSE LEAVING THE CHAMBER, UH, YES, IT WOULD INCLUDE SOME, UM, SOME ASPECT OF COMMUNITY EVENT PLANNING.
UM, IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE ONLY THIS, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS PERSON, IT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD BE SPLIT AMONG OTHER STAFF DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.
SO IF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ALL CAN THINK OF, BUT, UH, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL KIND OF BE WORKING THROUGH, UM, REALLY DESCRIBING THAT IN DETAIL AND THEN BRING YOU SOMETHING WITH, UM, WITH MORE INFORMATION.
CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE IMPACT PIECE? MM-HMM.
SO THE, IT'S $6 MILLION ANYWHERE IN THE CITY? UH, NO, IT'S A, UM, SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO GO ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THE CALCULATION.
IT'S A FORMULA AND THERE'S DIFFERENT PRICES FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, AND THEN IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY CONNECTIONS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE.
SO IT'S VERY SPECIFIC LIKE METER TO YOUR PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, SO IT HAS A BIT, HAS TO DO WITH THE HOTEL IS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT IT TAKES TO RUN THE HOTEL AND SEWER AND SERVICES.
I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A CALCULATOR OUT THERE THAT WAS, THAT THAT'S A, THE PER THE IMPACT FEES WERE UPDATED.
HOW, HOW LONG AGO? THREE YEARS AGO.
I MEAN THAT'S MY, MY CONCERN IS, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE.
DEPENDS ON THE BUSINESS, RIGHT? SO, WELL I'M TALKING ABOUT THE HOTEL.
WELL, SPECIFICALLY, SO APARTMENTS, APARTMENTS HAVE SIMILAR CHALLENGE, RIGHT? SO THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT BUSINESS MODEL.
UH, BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, AND, AND PART OF THE UPDATE I WAS GONNA DO IS AROUND THE BUDGET AND THE APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET FOR FY 2024.
AND YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, UH, $65 MILLION IN THE BUDGET FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, RIGHT? SO THOSE HAVE TO BE PAID FOR.
UH, AND THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ALONG WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, RIGHT.
AND SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE IMPACT FEES AND YOU KNOW, WITH SOME DEVELOPMENTS YOU CAN NEGOTIATE HOW YOU DEAL WITH THOSE IMPACT FEES TO HELP FUND THE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE BACKGROUND SPECIFIC AROUND A HOTEL, BUT, UM, YEAH, I MEAN THERE'S, HOTELS ARE GONNA USE A LOT OF WATER AND CREATE A LOT OF SEWER.
AND SO YOU GOTTA HAVE, SO THOSE APARTMENTS PAID SIMILAR IMPACT FEES TO THOSE, I GUESS THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN FROM THE PREVIOUS IMPACT FEES, RIGHT? YEAH, IT, IT DEPENDS.
THIS IS SO CASE BY CASE BASIS.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SALES TAX DOLLARS AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TWO BOARDS SITTING HERE.
IT'S NOT JUST TO COLLECT, IT'S NOT JUST TO COLLECT MONEY AND HAVE IT IN THE BANK AND HANG OUT.
RIGHT? IT'S TO, TO HELP DEVELOP THE CITY OF FULL.
SO $6 MILLION, I MEAN, YOU COULD HELP, SOUNDS LIKE AN ITEM MAYBE FOR ANOTHER MEETING.
I DON'T HAVE COURT DOESN'T HAVE THIS COURT HAS CONTROL
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WHO DOES DETERMINE THOSE IMPACT? YEAH.THERE, THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS BEHIND IT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST A, OH, LET'S CHARGE THIS MUCH BECAUSE WE THINK WE NEED THIS MUCH MONEY OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
THERE'S A WHOLE CALCULATION AND FORECAST OF GROWTH AND FORECAST AND DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT GO THE WHOLE PROCESS WHEN THE ENGINEERS HELP US AND THEY COME BACK.
AND I WAS JUST, WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS ANOTHER BOARD THAT, UM, THAT MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEN GOT PRESENTED TO COUNCIL OR IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DECISION DECIDED BY COUNCIL? NO, THAT'S DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY? UH, ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, I, I WON'T BE ABOUT IMPACT FEES.
UM, UH, ANELLE, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE, A BOARD WOULD, WOULD DISSOLVE, RECOMMENDED, DISSOLVE.
WHAT, WHAT DATE WAS THAT? WAS THAT FOR NEXT YEAR? UH, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IF THE STRATEGIC PLAN ACTUALLY SAID A, A DATE IN THERE.
BUT, UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO ELECTION, WHICH MEANS THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR TIMELINE IS RIGHT NOW TO DECIDE.
WE'D HAVE TO KNOW BY FEBRUARY BECAUSE IT'D HAVE TO GO ON THE BALLOT IF WE, IF WE MOVED FORWARD WITH DISSOLVING ABOARD.
AND THEN HOW DOES THAT GET PROPOSED? AS IN LIKE DOES ABOARD RECOMMEND IT DISSOLVE ITSELF OR IS THAT MORE OF A CITY, UH, IT'S PROPOSAL.
SO, SO IT'S, SO IT'S DRIVEN BY THE POPULATION SIZE, UH, RIGHT.
SO, UH, BASED ON THE YEAH, IT IS SO BASED ON THE MOST RECENT DEMOGRAPHICS OF 2020.
THEN, UM, BUT THE, THE PROCESS WOULD BE IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF IT.
BUT BASICALLY AFTER OVER A CERTAIN POPULATION HAVING AN ABOARD, UH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED.
UH, UH, I THINK, NO, I THINK THERE WAS, THERE WAS JUST SOME LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED ONE TIME THAT ALLOWED THE A BOARD TO FUNCTION AS AB BOARD AS LONG AS OUR POPULATION WAS SMALL.
BUT NOW THEY'LL HAVE TO GROW UP AND BE A, IT WAS BIG A BOARD LEGISLATION.
HOW'S THAT? YEAH, THAT'S, WELL, YOU COULD, AT LEAST HALF OF IT, THERE IS STILL A LOOPHOLE WHERE YOU COULD PUT IN THE
SO I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE MECHANISM? HOW DOES THAT, WHERE DOES THAT GO TO GET DECIDED? LIKE THE ABOARD GETS DISSOLVED DECISION.
ALRIGHT, SO THEN WHAT DATE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? 'CAUSE I, I, RIGHT.
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STATE COUNCIL GETS TO DECIDE ON THE LAW DOESN'T SAY IT HAS.AND I DUNNO WHETHER COUNSEL
IT'S NOT A TRIGGER BY STATUTE OR A TIMELINE OR A DEADLINE BY YEAH.
OUR STRATEGIC PLAN JUST HAS THAT AS A, A RECOMMENDATION.
SO IF COUNCIL NEVER ACTS ON IT, IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN.
IF THEY ACT ON IT FEBRUARY IT COULD HAPPEN.
MAYBE SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY START TALKING ABOUT, I GUESS.
SO THE STRATEGIC PLAN DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD.
UH, WE'VE HAD ENOUGH DISCUSSION ON THAT, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO SEND TO ANELLE AND HAYDEN ON THE ITEM SHE MENTIONED, PLEASE DO SO.
[9. Consideration and action on financials and payables for the Corporation for the period ending September 30, 2023. ]
UH, ITEM NINE IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE FINANCIALS AND PAYABLES FOR THE CORPORATION FOR THE PERIOD ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023.YOU'LL SEE ON OUR SALES TAX, WE, UH, HAVE WRAPPED, UH, FISCAL YEAR 23.
UM, WE COLLECTED 115.38% OF OUR BUDGET AMOUNT, UM, FOR, UH, SEPTEMBER SALES TAX COLLECTION.
WE WERE UP ABOUT 10% FROM SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
UM, SO WE DID A GREAT JOB IN, UH, IN 23.
AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE THE GROWTH IN 24.
YEAH, THAT'S DEFINITELY LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
SO THE MONTH OVER MONTH IS A LITTLE DISHEARTENING THAT IT'S DROPPING, BUT IT'S GROWTH.
AND UM, AS WE KINDA MENTIONED EARLIER WITH, UH, THE RETAIL COACH UPDATE, WE ARE GETTING CONSISTENTLY MORE AND MORE BUSINESS COMING INTO TURE.
UM, AND EACH ONE OF THOSE, UH, ESPECIALLY RESTAURANTS, THEY PULL IN A LOT OF SALES TAX.
UM, SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL SEE IT KEEP GROWING, UM, UNTIL WE HAVE A BIG PROJECT COMING, THEN WE'LL SEE A BOOM.
WELL, YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ECONOMY, RIGHT? AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND IT'S, UH, SO BUSINESSES CAN BE THERE, BUT IF PEOPLE START TIGHTENING THEIR BELT A LITTLE BIT AND AREN'T GOING OUT TO EAT AS MUCH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT ABSOLUTELY.
LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2021 INFLATION AND 2023 INFLATION AS WELL.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE PAYABLES? IF NOT, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE B BOARD? I MOVED, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UM, PAYABLES, UM, FOR THE B BOARD OF $15,222 AND 35 CENTS.
MOTIONS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
DO I HEAR A MOTION FROM THE A BOARD? UH, I MOTION TO APPROVE PAYABLES, UH, IN $15,222 AND 35 CENTS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[10. Consideration and action on minutes of the Corporation for the October 9, 2023, meeting. ]
NUMBER 10, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE MINUTES OF THE CORPORATION FOR THE MEETING ON OCTOBER 16TH, 2023.ANYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW? NOPE.
DO I HEAR A MOTION? I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 9TH BOARD A MEETING? OCTOBER 16TH.
OCTOBER 16TH, OCTOBER 16TH MEETING THAT I WAS AT
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
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ALL RIGHT.DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES OF THE B BOARD? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE APPROVE OCTOBER 16TH, 2020.
THREES, UH, MEETING FOR TYPE B BOARD.
I, I WILL ABSTAIN SINCE I WASN'T HERE.
MAKE NOTE OF THAT, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PATTERSON WILL ABSTAIN ON THIS VOTE.
DO WHAT? ON OCTOBER 16TH? I WASN'T HERE.
AND WELL, WE CAN GET CHARLIE TO VERIFY THIS, BUT APPROVING THE MINUTES DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN YOU'RE VOUCHING FOR EVERY WORD IN THE DOCUMENT.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAD A NEW BOARD COMING IN, YOU COULD NEVER APPROVE THE PREVIOUS MINUTES.
SO IF WE THREE OF US WORK HERE, WE ALL OKAY? YEAH.
YOU GUYS KNOW THIS MEETING'S OF COURT, RIGHT? BUT I YOU'RE JUST APPROVING I'M JUST APPROVING THE RIGHT, I'M, I'M JOKING RIGHT? I'M JOKING.
OF COURSE, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO OBLIGE THE WISHES.
SO IF YOU WANT TO ABSTAIN, YOU CAN.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SO UNDER THE LAW, IT'S AN, IT'S A NO.
SO JUST REAL BRIEF BECAUSE IT'S, I UNDER THE LAW, IT'S GOOD STUFF UNDER THE LAW.
UM, YOU DON'T HAVE A LEGAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THE LAW AND NOT BEING PRESENT LEGAL.
THERE'S REQUIRE, YOU'RE STILL, YOU HAVE CAN'T, YOU CAN ON IT.
THAT'S, SO I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
IF ALL THREE WERE ABSENT, WAS THERE ACTUALLY A QUORUM? THERE WAS, WAS EVERYBODY ELSE
WE WOULDN'T HAVE MET IF WE DIDN'T
BUT IT WAS, UH, A JOINT MEETING OR NOT? NO, NO.
THEY MET ON THE NINTH AND WE MET ON THE 16TH.
SO WHO WAS HERE? LEE, MYSELF AND BLAKE.
THAT'S WHY CHARLIE TEACHES THE CLASS ON THIS STUFF.
REALLY? I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS, IT'S, IT CAN GET FUN.
WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE MEETING MINUTES.
ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES WITH I GOT ONE ABSTENTION.
[11. Presentation by City Council Liaison regarding relevant action taken at the previous City Council meeting(s). ]
ITEM NUMBER 11, CITY COUNCIL LIAISON UPDATE.SO I WILL JUST PREFACE THIS WITH, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE, THIS AGENDA ITEM, UM, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO AN UPDATE ANYWAYS, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU'RE ON A BOARD AND YOU'RE NOT WATCHING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST, RIGHT? SO IT, I TRY TO PICK THINGS THAT I THINK ARE RELEVANT, BUT I I ALSO ASSUME THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE HEARD THEM.
SO, UH, THERE WAS A SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 5TH OF SEPTEMBER.
UM, AND THE BUDGETING PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH EACH YEAR TAKES MONTHS, RIGHT? STARTING WITH BUDGET DISCUSSIONS IN THE SUMMER.
UH, BUT THERE'S, UH, THERE'S SEVERAL PHASES AND THEN CERTAIN THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO TO, YOU HAVE TO GET THE TAX ROLL, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE TAX RATE, YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THESE THINGS IN ORDER, AND THEN EVENTUALLY, UH, APPROVE A BUDGET BEFORE THE END OF OCTOBER.
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THAT, THAT NIGHT ON THE FIFTH, UM, WHERE, UH, IT WAS PRESENTED ON THE, UH, PART OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS, UNDERSTANDING THE PROPERTY TAXES, THE TOTAL PROPERTY TAXES THAT WERE GOING TO BE, UH, GENERATED, UH, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S PROPERTY TAXES.UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS PART, PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, CHRISTINA BARON WAS APPOINTED BY COUNSEL TO FILL THE DISTRICT THREE, UH, SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
UM, THERE WAS A VERY LENGTHY AND PROBABLY INFORMATIVE IF YOU DIDN'T WATCH IT, YOU SHOULD, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE BOIL WATER NOTICE THAT WAS ISSUED, UH, FOR PARTS OF THE DOWNTOWN OR THE DOWNTOWN AREA ON AUGUST 21ST, 2023.
UM, SO EVERYONE AND THEIR BROTHER WAS AT THAT MEETING.
UH, SO, AND FROM OUR CENTER POINT AND, YOU KNOW, OUR ENGINEERS AND, AND EVERYONE.
SO IT WAS A VERY LENGTHY DISCUSSION.
UM, MAYBE NOT A SO MUCH A A WHY IT HAPPENED, EVEN THOUGH WE PURSUED WHY IT HAPPENED AND WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
UM, BUT THERE WAS AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT HAPPENED, UH, WITH THAT PARTICULAR, UM, THAT CAUSED THE BOIL WATER NOTICE.
UM, I MEAN, I COULD TALK ABOUT THE, THE, UH, THE SETTLEMENT THAT WE DID WITH SEA ENERGY.
SO SEA ENERGY IS ONE OF THE NATURAL GAS PROVIDERS FOR THE CITY OF SHORE, THIS RESIDENCE.
UM, AND THERE WAS, UH, A PROPOSED RATE INCREASE BY SEA ENERGY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF GETTING APPROVAL FROM THE RAILROAD COMMISSION.
SO BASICALLY THE CITY, ALONG WITH, UM, OTHERS, EIGHT OTHER CITIES, UH, JOINED IN AND, UH, DID, UH, A SUSPENSION OF THAT PROPOSED RATE INCREASE AS WELL AS THE STATE OF TEXAS UNTIL THERE WAS A REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED INCREASE IN JUSTIFICATION OF THE INCREASE.
AND IN THE END, UM, THAT RATE INCREASE WAS NOT APPROVED.
UH, IT WAS REDUCED BY AT LEAST HALF, IF NOT MORE.
UM, SO THAT SAVED, UM, MONEY, RIGHT? FOR, FOR THE, THE PEOPLE WHO USE SEA ENERGY FOR THEIR NATURAL GAS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, I MENTIONED BEFORE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S IN THE BUDGET FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
SO THERE'S, UH, THERE'S DISCUSSION, UH, IN THE BUDGET, UH, AROUND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
AND SPECIFICALLY THERE WAS ONE FOR THE DOWNTOWN WATER PLANT.
UH, AND, UH, THERE WAS, UH, BECAUSE DURING THE SUMMER, THE DEMAND ON THAT PLANT AND THE, AND BASICALLY THEY WERE HAVING TO GO ABOVE THE, THE DESIGN TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE ENOUGH TO PUT ENOUGH WATER INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND SO SOME OF THAT WATER WAS NOT GOING THROUGH THE AERATOR.
AND SO BECAUSE IT WASN'T GOING THROUGH THE AERATOR, IT HAS THAT SULFIDE, UH, EGG SMELL AND PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT.
AND THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR US TO ACTUALLY, UH, AND, AND EVEN COUNSEL AT THE END OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION TALKED ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL AERATOR AT THAT PLANT, UH, WHICH, UH, WOULD COST ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND, UH, IT WOULD ALSO NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO BE IMPLEMENTED BEFORE THE UPGRADE TO THE PLANT WERE COMPLETED.
SO, BUT IN THE END, OUT OF THAT, THE COUNCIL ASKED STAFF TO COME BACK WITH THE, UH, BUDGET AND THEN, UH, AND OPTION B ON THE BUDGET TO INCLUDE THAT THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE AERATOR, UH, AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, SO WE DID NOT, UH, DO THE FINAL ADOPTION, UH, OF THE BUDGET AT THAT MEETING.
UM, I WAS GONNA MENTION ON THE NEXT, ON THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 19TH, UM, SO LEMME JUST LOOK REAL QUICK.
UM, SO THE CITY MANAGER'S UPDATE.
SO THIS IS SORT OF, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS GOOD.
I MEAN, I WAS, UM, WE HAVE, UH, THREE, WE HAD RECOGNIZED THREE NEW, UH, POLICE OFFICERS AND ONE PROMOTION.
AND THEN, UM, JACK TALKED ABOUT THE DEPARTMENTAL REORGANIZATION,
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WHICH MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO EVERYONE HERE.UH, BASICALLY, UH, THE MUNICIPAL COURT IS NOW UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY SECRETARY.
UH, HUMAN RESOURCES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
COMMUNICATIONS IS BROKEN OUT INTO ITS OWN DIVISION, ALSO REPORTING TO THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGIES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, WE HAD SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, AROUND THE TAX RATE INCREASE.
AND, UM, SO THE, ACTUALLY THE, THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE IS ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.
UM, SO TECHNICALLY THE TAX RATE IS INCREASING FOR FY OR FOR THE, UH, 2023 TAX YEAR.
UM, BUT IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN LAST YEAR'S BY 10TH OF PERCENT.
BUT IT, IT'S LESS, IT'S LESS, RIGHT? SO, UM, SO THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND OF COURSE LATER WE, WE APPROVED THAT THERE WAS THE DISCUSSION ON THE ANNEXATION OF THE 3.12441 ACRES, UH, AT THE CORNER OF TEXAS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND 10 93.
AND THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED AND THE ZONING MAP, UH, SO IT WAS ANNEXED, IT WAS REQUESTED TO BE ANNEXED, IT WAS, UH, APPROVED ANNEX IT, THE ZONING MAP WAS, UH, APPROVED TO CHANGE IT TO JOURNAL COMMERCIAL BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PART OF THE CITY, SO IT HAD NO ZONING.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO LANGUAGE, UH, FOR THE CDO ARTICLES, 1, 2, 3, 4, AND SEVEN THAT WERE UPDATED.
UM, WHAT ELSE MIGHT BE OF INTEREST? SO THE, UM, THE, SO THE RELU, THERE WERE RESOLUTIONS FOR CDC TYPE A AND TYPE B, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SALES TAX CORPORATION FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
UM, AND THEN, LET'S SEE, WE DID DO, AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE STRUGGLE THAT WE HAD THIS SUMMER WITH, UH, THE DEMAND ON THE WATER SYSTEMS AND, UM, WE, WE DID, UH, COUNCIL DID AGREE TO, I'VE FORGOTTEN THE LEGAL TERM FOR IT, BUT BASICALLY WE AGREED TO ALLOW THE, THE CITY TO FAST TRACK, UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND THE BIDDING FOR THE PROJECTS AND THE AWARDING OF THE PROJECTS SO THAT WE COULD GET SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS UNDER UNDERWAY.
AND THEN, UH, OLYMPIA RIDGE WAS APPOINTED TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION.
UH, AND THEN AS I SAID EARLIER, THE 17.37 ACRES OF THE DESERT ZONE GENERAL COMMERCIAL THERE, UH, OFF OF FLEW ELLEN WAY BEHIND THE, THE SHELL MCDONALD'S, UM, THAT REQUEST TO REZONE THAT WAS DENIED.
CAN I JUST IN REGARDS TO THE AGENDA, UH, THE, UM, YEAH.
UM, I KNOW I USED TO ATTEND THEM IN THE MEETINGS IN PERSON, UH, WHEN THEY GOT MOVED FORWARD.
UM, I NOW LISTEN TO THEM ON MY PHONE DURING MY COMMUTE HOME.
UM, SO, UH, IT'S, IT IS DIFFICULT.
SOMETIMES I DON'T CATCH UP ANYTHING THAT'S ADDRESSED AFTER YOU GUYS GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN COME BACK BECAUSE I SWITCH TO MUSIC AND FORGET TO SWITCH BACK.
UM, SO, BUT I DEFINITELY, I HAVE APPRECIATED YOUR SUMMARIES.
UM, ESPECIALLY YOU HIGHLIGHTING THE THINGS THAT, THAT ARE RELEVANT TO US.
IT'S A GOOD REMINDER, UM, WHEN YOU SAY THEM.
I'M LIKE, I REMEMBER YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT.
UH, SO, UM, I KNOW THAT I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE WE WANTED TO REWORK THE WORDING A LITTLE BIT SO THAT LESS OF A TASK ON YOU, BUT MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
CLARIFICATION OF ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, UM, SO THAT MAYBE IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF THE BURDEN ON THE VIEW.
YEAH, NO, I MEAN, I DON'T MIND DOING IT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SO IN MY MIND WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE IMPORTANT OR SORT OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF ALL OF THEM, UM, AND, AND JUST GO THROUGH THEM AND, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I CAN EVEN REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT, UH, AND I, AND I DO GO BACK AND, UH, THE ONE THING ABOUT THE, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, I, IT'S AWESOME.
I CAN GO PULL UP THE VIDEO, I CAN GO THE AGENDA, I CAN CLICK ON THE AGENDA ITEM THAT I WANT TO LISTEN TO AND I CAN REFRESH MY BRAIN ON, UH, ALL THE DISCUSSION.
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IT'S SORT OF INTERESTING TO WATCH YOURSELF, UH, ON CAMERA AND REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE, SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, AND HOW YOU'RE BEHAVING AND, UH, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.SO, UM, YEAH, IT'S INTERESTING.
[12. Future agenda items ]
ITEM 12, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I HAVE MONUMENT SIGNS ON MY LIST TO BRING BACK NEXT MONTH.WHAT OTHERS WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO SEE? DO WE NEED TO ADD THE FARMER'S MARKET? MM-HMM,
UM, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, MAYBE NOT HAVE A AGENDA ITEM, BUT MAYBE A WORKING GROUP TO HOW WE COULD HELP, YOU KNOW, GET A HOTEL LIKE IN SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, PRIORITY AMONG MOST RESIDENTS HERE, RIGHT? I, I FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE SHOULD RENEW OUR FOCUS ON IT AND MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFORT ON, UH, HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN.
'CAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT OBSTACLE FOR A HOTEL.
I'LL ADD IT TO THE LIST AND IF ANYTHING COMES UP, YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL NELL HAYDEN, BRIAN, MYSELF.
JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, WE ARE NOT HAVING A JOINT MEETING NEXT TIME.
UM, THE, A BOARD MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 11TH, B BOARD WOULD BE DECEMBER 18TH.
[13. Announcements ]
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, ANNOUNCEMENTS.I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT THE CITY OF SHORE WILL BE HOSTING THE ANNUAL AND CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 2ND.
IT'LL TAKE PLACE FROM FOUR TO 6:00 PM HERE AT THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.
OUT FRONT, UH, THE LIGHTING WILL CONSIST OF LIVE MUSIC, CURLERS, PICTURES WITH SANTA CLAUS, UM, TRAIN RIDES FOR THE KIDDOS FACE PAINTING AND A GINGERBREAD HOUSE CONTEST, UM, WILL BE JOINED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE ESD AND THE LIGHTING WILL TAKE PLACE AT 5:30 PM SO WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU JOIN US.
AND ALSO FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT A GINGERBREAD HOUSE IF YOU, IF YOU'RE UP TO THE TASK
ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ABSTAIN ON THIS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
ALL OPPOSED? WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8:14 PM A BOARD.
DO I HEAR A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN? DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.
WE ADJOURN THE A BOARD ADJOURNS AT 8:14 PM THANK YOU.